What rumours about celebrities rumoured to be gay do you believe and why?
There are many rumours about such and such celebrity being gay,but in quite a few cases it is just wishful thinking.
However there some rumours that seem to be spot on . In your opinion , which are correctly identified as gay or bi and why?
Keanu Reeves. Because I've heard the rumour since he started his acting career here in Toronto.
in WHICH cases, op?
And I don't care how many female big-breasted, big-haired, greaseball goombahs come out of the woodwork to appear on his arm.
Musto has outed him at least twice. I've read more then a few posts here with a ring of credibility stating that it's well-known in HW he's gay.
And most of all, when he appeared on one of those awful "Insider" or Mary Hart segments to promote "Oceans 11", the ping emitting from my tv screen shattered my Princess House crystal champagne flutes.
I'll bet OP thinks George Clooney is NOT gay.
Tom Cruise. I've heard that rumour for the first time in October 1983..2 months after he made it big. And I heard it from many people. A friend of mine who once lived in Hollywood said that if you hear the same rumour more then 3 times there is some truth to it.
I believe the Jake Gyllenhaal rumors.
Hugh Jackman owns this thread.
The only ones I truly believe are Cruise and Travolta. DL has a way of zeroing in on really attractive actors and almost immediately the gay rumors start up. I mean where is all the speculation about Jonah Hill, Zach Galafanakis and Steve Buscemi?
I'm getting tired of this idea that gay people only want attractive celebrities to be gay.
Hey dumb asses, here's a clue, MOST celebrities are attractive! Those three named in R8's post are oddballs for the industry. (They do need those.)
Even celebrities who look just okay on screen are actually kind of stunning in real life, with more charisma than the average person.
Well Michael Fassbender and his cock seem to have a lot of fans on DL but so far I don't think one person here has claimed that he's gay.
[quote]Tom Cruise. I've heard that rumour for the first time in October 1983..2 months after he made it big. And I heard it from many people. A friend of mine who once lived in Hollywood said that if you hear the same rumour more then 3 times there is some truth to it.
I think in this case his fame has kept the rumor alive. Andrew Morton found no evidence and a string of girlfriends back to HS.
I totally believe Elijah Wood is gay but it has nothing to do with the stupid prancing pony shit. His sister was a friend of mine when I lived in LA. She and another friend of mine, Christa started a company and are now making lip balms. Most people don't know this (or care) but Hannah was in treatment for anorexia several years ago. Elijah paid for it and was there a lot.
Since this is an anon board, I will say that Elijah is with a guy now and has been for a while. He seems to have no problem with his friends and family knowing. It's kind of weird. I was visiting Hannah and only met Elijah for the first time and he and this guy were obviously a couple. I asked Hanna if it was his bf and she laughed and said "duh, you must be the last one to know".
How is it the celebrities are out without being out? If they are out to their friends/family, how do they remain closeted to their fans and the general public?
[quote]How is it the celebrities are out without being out? If they are out to their friends/family, how do they remain closeted to their fans and the general public?
Usually people with sufficient detail to be credible, don't want to be identified as a rat to their friends. Guess we're lucky you apparently don't care.
I firmly believe Chris Meloni is bi. Too many rumors and gossip plus his seemingly carefree attitude when it comes to sexuality.
r13 had THIS to say on the "secrets from the set" thread:
"No one who hopes to work again is going to spill anything good."
Thus, either he/she is trying to cover for Tom Cruise, or he she is really, really stupid. I think it's the former, since that same poster is also politically pretty savvy and sounds intelligent in other threads....
[quote]Guess we're lucky you apparently don't care.
Fuck off to iVillage, you idiot. This is an anon message board. Another reason there is no good gossip here - people like you being a dick.
Anyway, thanks R14. SOME of us enjoy a tidbit of gossip.
Elijah Wood isn't a big star anymore and he never was a sex symbol so it's no surprise he can fly under the radar.
What possible reason would I have to cover for Tom Cruise? I just don't happen to believe that he is gay no matter how long the rumors have persisted and I also disagree that rumors that persist are necessarily true.
It is a fact that people with salacious gossip about others in show business typically do not spread it because if it gets back to them their careers will be damaged. My saying so is not part of any Scientology conspiracy.
If you were any good at stalking you'd know I am not a fan of the cult.
OK fair enough; I am not stalking you. And I gave you props for your political viewpoint.
But saying: "Andrew Morton found no evidence and a string of girlfriends back to HS" is just laughable.
Why? Morton would have sold a ton more books if he came up with anything.
R10, there is a correlation between an actors looks and gay rumors. You just can't deny it. Kathy Griffin even made a joke about it in her standup.
Oh honey, you're reaching if you use Kathy Griffin as a back-up sociological reference.
Speaking of Kathy Griffin, I believe the rumors that Seacrest is gay.
If Kathy Griffith made a joke about it it must be true! Actually, I think it is true, people speculate more about the sexuality of attractive people plus there is the stereotype that gay guys are prettier than straight guys. But not every good looking celeb gets notable gay rumors, there are plenty of exceptions.
R14, Elijah Wood was apparently dating a girl from Gogol Bordello for a few years awhile ago. So is he bi or was she a "girlfriend?" I'm assuming bi.
[quote] PopBitch – Word from a certain lake in Italy is that this heavily closeted Tinseltown actor has ditched the personal trainer/hairdresser/assistant he’s been having a relationship with for years in favour of a very pretty 17-year-old. He’s said to be besotted but even his regular entourage are worried the lad
in question may not have the purest motives. Sorry, no more clues.
oh nos! he ditched that cute pa?
Taylor Lautner - I think it's pretty obvious.
Tom Cruise - again, I think it's obvious even if I think he might be too fucked up in the head to actually have sex with a man.
John Travolta - COME ON
Kristen Stewart - pings to high heaven. Gay and closeted.
Jake Gyllenhaal - the Taylor Swift thing clinched it for me
George Clooney - too many fake girlfriends, too many rumors of his boyfriends hidden off at Lake Como.
Joe Jonas - pings, mostly only hangs around with guys, string of fake girlfriends
Zac Efron - that weird Details interview where he talks about riding motorcycles with Tom Cruise, bathing in pussy and his fake relationship with Vanessa Hudgens.
Ryan Seacrest - obvious
Andrew Garfield - I believe the rumors he's had boyfriends in England before he was famous. Currently bearding with Emma Stone
Emma Stone - currently bearding with Andrew Garfield. She just pings to me.
Kellan Lutz - likes living with gay men? Doesn't want to date? Get real.
Hugh Jackman - dykey wife, ambiguous male partner, the whole song and dance thing.
Kirsten Dunst - many rumors about her with women. I believe they are true.
Vin Diesel - yep, gay.
Simon Cowell, really who is he trying to kid?
"Musto has outed him at least twice"
Sorry r4 to stuff up your hunch. Op here,but I do think that Geoege Clooney is gay and also John Travolta.
I think quite a lot of male actors would at least be bi because a ) Let's face it who would do drama at school but gay guys b) To get a job in hollywood you would have to be willing to do anything and if that means giving a blowjob to get your career going think who wouldn't think of that and c) Seriously let's face it if you had the chance to sleep with anyone hot while you are at the top,wouldn't you.
I think where we get confused over who is gay ect is because we believe in lies we are told ie so and so is dating hot girl and is madly in love and these lies are hard to dispel ( Weapons on mass destruction anyone.) I also think some of the gossip is wishful thinking on our part ( well mine) I want to Hugh Jackman and. Daniel Radcliffe to be gay cause I like them.I also think we get confused because actors are more open in some ways to gay people. This makes us think they may be gay. They maybe but they maybe equally important to us as a friend
[quote]Simon Cowell, really who is he trying to kid?
That ole' gal REALLY needs to come out. All the fake girlfriends and "fiances" and then paying them off after the contract...I mean "relationship" is over is just embarassing.
I do believe that Andrew Garfield and Jesse Eisenberg hooked up.
God would really have a wicked sense of humor if Taylor Lautner turns out to be straight after all.
With some guys you just have to look at them while they talk and it's clear.
I believe Travolta is gay. I believe Clooney is gay. I believe Henry Cavill is gay. I'm sure there are others that don't come to mind right now.
I really don't know about Cruise. I think he might be a repressed gay but what I'm sure of is that he's fucked up beyond imagination. If he is gay, he hates that about himself to such an extent that that is the reason imo that he went into Scientology and stayed there. He is very damaged.
Oddly, the only person named above who I [italic]don't[/italic] believe is gay is Simon Cowell. I think he is prissy, and British, and friends with gay Ryan Seacrest, but I think he genuinely prefers bimbo-esque women.
Clooney. For the same reason i, and a great many people, knew Anderson Cooper to be gay years and years ago. And for the same reason I believed it to be true about Rock Hudson in the 80s before he became ill.
Having it on very good authority - that of people we happen to know who know the person in question and don't lightly make things up about other a celebrity's sexuality - that he is having sex with a men (or in Clooney's case, at least one man).
I forgot a few. Seacrest, Jackman, Lautner and Cowell- GAY, GAY, GAY!!!!
[quote]Oddly, the only person named above who I don't believe is gay is Simon Cowell. I think he is prissy, and British, and friends with gay Ryan Seacrest, but I think he genuinely prefers bimbo-esque women.
Are you so blind that you can't see? How many men do you know that give their ex's millions of dollars after they break up? And have you ever seen pix of him when a woman kisses him? He looks like he wishes he could run away.
Here is why I believe many gay rumors. Before almost every out celeb was out, there where rumors that were going around. Couple that with the fact that only a small portion of celebs have gay rumors and the fact that many of these celebs have persistent, occasionally substantiated rumors. When one rumored gay celeb comes out, they provide credibility to the rumors about the select few other celebs. Where there's a rumor, there is a reason to believe it so. Call it the Quninto Effect.
DL;DR We thought Quinto was gay, we think a few others are closeted. Because Quinto is gay, some of the others are likely closeted.
r43, I've always thought that ol' Diamond Dave
! PONGED ! waaaaay back in the day! I don't recall him ever having a "girlfriend". either.
R46, with all those Whitney threads I was thinking Kelly McGillis was a textbook example of the "where there's smoke" theory. She was rumoured to be gay for well over 20 years before she eventually came out.
Chris Brown. I can't believe people buy into his macho act.
The problem with the "where there's smoke" theory is it can never be disproved because NOTHING a star does in his or her life will ever been seen to amount to "no fire." Dating or marrying someone is dismissed as bearding. Having children leads to turkey baster jokes.
r50, your argument is unfounded based on my Quinto Effect postulations that only a small number of stars have these rumors, the rest of them are absolutely cases of "no fire." The metaphorical smoke is magnified for rumored "not-out-to-the-public" celebs every time someone of similar circumstances and speculations comes out.
Is this exact? No way. But one of the first things you will hear about gay actors in Los Angeles is "if you have heard that they're gay, they usually are."
[quote]t only a small number of stars have these rumors, the rest of them are absolutely cases of "no fire
But that's not the case. Most attractive male stars have rumors and if they are pretty the number is closer to 100%
Not really. There's quite a few male stars that you almost never hear gay rumors about. It's always the usual suspects. The same small group of actors and actresses that show up again and again, all over the internet, not just DL.
And quite a few of those have gone on to come out. So I do believe when there is a huge preponderance of rumors or 'evidence,' there's likely something going on.
Top 15 male movie box office stars based on average gross of their most recent films
1) Daniel Radcliffe--gay rumors
2) Mike Myers--gay rumors
3) Robert Pattinson--gay rumors
4) Gary Oldman --seen as straight
5) Hugo Weaving-- seen as straight
6) Shia LaBeouf--gay rumors
7) Johnny Depp-- seen as straight
8) Alan Rickman-- seen as straight
9) Will Smith--gay rumors
10) Eddie Murphy--gay rumors
11) Tobey Maguire--gay rumors
12) David Cross--(a lot of voice work)--seen as straight
13) Tom Hanks--seen as straight
14) Jon Favreau (!)--seen as straight
15) Robert Downey Jr. --gay rumors
The next 15 include two out gay actors (Ian McKellan and Rupert Everett (Shrek and Narnia) plus Tom Cruise and Leonardo DiCaprio about whom there are persistent gay rumors
What about LL Cool J? Can someone shed some light on that handsome hunk of muscle?
There are a few good replies on here, but I hate when these aura readers come in here WITH NO TYPE OF TEA OR EXTRA INFO 2 add to the rumor. It's always based on gaydar, auras and crystal balls. UGGHHH! Add something you know personally or don't fucking reply!
Simon Cowell hired David Walliams to be on the Britain's Got Talent panel with him hoping he'd look more masculine in comparison, but the I think the opposite's happening.
I think David Cross would be open about it if he were gay. It wouldn't hurt his career as he's hardly the leading man type.
The list of actors at r54 is compelling, but ultimately does nothing for me. I'd say that each of those actors has had gay rumors, even the ones listed "seen as straight." However, this list distorts the original argument for the purpose of more easily attacking it because merely having gay rumors isn't the point, having persistent rumors that are similar to those already-out actors had before they were out is the Effect we are talking about. By these standards, a much smaller portion of your list is likely to be gay.
All of the gay rumors on that list have been persistent because the existence of rumors in the past is cited as evidence to keep repeating them. These rumors hardly ever go away. They are self-perpetuating.
I don't cite the list as evidence that the actors are gay. I cite it as evidence that there is far too much smoke to rely on the "where there's smoke there's fire" rule.
oh god, r55.
That man is still hot as hell. He had good work done, too.
Per good, olden days DL gossip, he's BI. The wife understands and lets him hook up as long as he doesn't embarrass her.
A DL poster said he hit on another actor (male) on his latest show. Apparently he was turned down, but no hard feelings.
My point is that the smoke ergo fire rule is only applicable when the rumors are persistent and *similar* to rumors about already out people. Think Qunito qualifies Franco, or Bomer qualifies Anderson Cooper. Nothing super remarkable here.
Of course most of the actors on that list aren't likely gay. Those rumors don't qualify as real smoke per the earlier definition. Only two of them should even be thought of as probably gay by my definition. Smoke, fire (when smoke is properly defined) isn't so sloppy - it's almost formulaic. Granted, you have to appreciate the existence of anomalies.
@35 me too. i mean the way they acted around each other and them lingering looks were far too obvious.
to quote "Neal Caffrey" on the smoke and fire situation
"the more we deny that there is smoke , the more the press is going to see fire"
Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki
If you met them in private you would understand completely.
R66 you mean they ping or they look like lovers?
I never suspected Walter Pidgeon, so do we really ever know for sure? Sadly, not until they're dead and the book comes out.
[R54], it's supposedly well-known in the theatre circles in London that Alan Rickman is in fact gay and has a male partner. Friends of mine in the press have met Rickman and have even been introduced to his partner. Apparently while he may have been "straight" when he got married to his wife, the marriage is seemingly for appearance's sake only at this point.
Chris Evans is hot and universally considered to be straight here.
Michael Fassbender is hot and universally considered to be straight here.
Brad Pitt is hot and universally considered to be straight here (casting couch rumors are not your sexuality)
Ben Affleck and the list goes on.
There might be a claim here or there but it is a select group of actors who CONSISTENTLY have rumors about their sexuality.
And often when there is smoke there is fire.
[quote]And often when there is smoke there is fire.
In the case of Brad Pitt, it's not a fire, it's a landscape architect.
r70, add Jon Hamm, Joel McHale and Joe Manganiello to that list.
James Van Der Beek.
I believe that stories of what happen on the Dawson set and I think that relationship with Kim is bogus.
Someone is working that bubble ass over and it's certainly not her.
John Travolta definitely
Zac Efron. I've seen him flitting around West Hollywood enough times to believe that anyone who thinks he is straight is delusional.
2 out of 3 Jonas brothers.
Also, I have no idea why people have such a hard time believing that a great portion of Hollywood male actors (and all actors in general) are gay? Acting, like fashion and interior design, attracts a disproportionate amount of gay men to it. Do people not remember what type of boys were most likely to be in drama/musical club at their high school?
I believe Obama really did visit Mars for secret training on 3 occasions as a college student.
I think a lot of it has to do with the feeling of betrayal in a "I thought we were close and now I realize we weren't after all since you kept that secret from me for so long!" kind of way.
Some people take their Hollywood or music idol worship and what the media says about their idol way too seriously. They mistakingly think that the connection between a fan and a celebrity is build on trust like any other relationship, so like in any other disfunctional relationship the fans (in their obsessive minds) throw common sense overboard.
Thank you R70 and R72. Not everyone has gay rumors, not every hot celeb has gay rumors, definitely not persistent ones.
Travolta isn't a secret anymore. Everyone "believes" that. I believe the rumors about Cruise, Clooney, DiCaprio, Will Smith and now also Elijah Wood - I have heard it often enough now to conclude that there's probably something to it. Bradley Cooper and Vin Diesel are pretty much undisputed. Oh yeah and from the young generation of course Zac, Taylor and Kristin Steward.
The only cases in which wishful thinking plays much of a role is when huge fandoms and "shipping" are involved, as mentioned in this thread: the prancing ponies, the guys from Supernatural, Andrew/Jesse... I don't know if this rumors are true or false, but they are definitely egged on by wishful thinking. Clooney and his unknown longtime lover in Italy? Who fantasizes about that? No one.
Oh, R66, I can believe that they ping! But do you mean the rumors are true that they're together or just that they're both gay?
I tend to always think there's a chance a celeb is straight or gay or something else until there is a lot pointing to an answer. It is more a case of degrees to which I believe it, there are a lot of gay/bi rumors I think are probably true but might be false. (And a lot of celebs I think are probably straight but might be bi or gay.)
Thank you r76 I totally agree.How the hell did we start thinking of acting like being a jock on the football team.It is called ACTing for a reason
Bradley Cooper just my gut instinct says he is gay
I do believe the Yasser Arafat gay rumours now. I had lived in France for a while and hung in certain circles. I heard his wife was told he was pos, but didn't dare to believe it. One day she got some sort of proof of his passion for bottoming and fisting. Once she decided to dig him up, i knew it was true as i heard from a person i trust she is also pos ( he did fuck her on occasion).
Since when has Rickman been married, r69?
Like a previous poster wrote,I don't think Tom Cruise is gay but I do believe he is a seriously fucked up individual and not a bright person.