LOGO knows that the only people who actually watch television are hausfraus, so they need to program to their audience. Besides, queer programs are so terrible, they are hardly worth the trouble.
If that's their choice so be it. Just don't advertise it to be an LGBT channel and please change your mission statement to "appealing to the lowest common denominator in white trash everywhere"...
Their programming now is only nominally gay. Endless reruns of Buffy and Reno 911 barely qualify and don't inspire me to tune in. The new shows even less appealing.
It would be sad if we were losing anything, but I can live without their old stuff that isn't gay or lesbian anyway, as well as their rare, "original" programming as the Tranny Channel.
The constant bleeping of "bad" language on Logo is a dealbreaker.
Logo sucks anyway.
They didn't have any gay viewers because they had hardly any gay content, even in the beginning. The fact they are hailing a show about a toddler on a gay channel is downright creepy.
Please. The reason those "straight" shows (like Buffy) do better on their network is because they are way more popular and better known than QAF and L WORD. People who channel surf will watch Buffy because they love that show, not because it's on the Logo network.
What is wrong with this world!!
It's well known that Logo is one of Viacom's dumpster channels where they put stuff they have in their archives (and not even good stuff like Undressed).
Seems like eventually most cable channels will be nearly indistinguishable from each other.
It used to be nice to have the niche channels that you could go to for particular types of programming (SyFy, Logo, History, TLC, etc.) but they are all starting to look more and more like each other as they have started competing for the same audience. Kind of a shame.
Prime example is Bravo which changed quite dramatically.
What was with that show where the gay guys find a date for some straight cunt? Right there you get that Logo has no fucking clue about the gay community. The whole point of a gay network is to take straight concepts and make them gay. WE HAVE STRAIGHT DATING SHOWS ALREADY, where the straight people get dates! Get five cunts to find the gay guy a date! Why are they continuously putting us to the back of the bus? Stupid fuckers. The channel was always Viacom's creation to dump old shows from their vaults, and put them on television, filling up airtime. It really isn't a gay network. That was always just a front. It's like TV Land, only ghetto-er.
They need to dump more than half of RuPaul's crap on there.
Logo is gay entertainment aimed at straight people. I want my gay entertainment to be from gays FOR gays. But I understand that most if not all channels go for the biggest audience they can get and that's the mainstream crowd.
Can we start a letter-writing campaign? Unfortunately, most cable channels have drifted away from their original intent in order to attract the lowest-common denominator (and their advertisers). AE is no longer "Arts and Entertainment," Discovery no longer discovers, the History Channel has no history, The Learning Channels no longer teaches and there's no music on the MTV.
Logo is total crap normally. It's irritating that such a pitiful collection of programming is passed off as for or about 'the community'. Ew.
There actually was a genuine all LGBT TV station in Canada in the 2000s. (PrideTV).
The Canadian cable companies refused to add it to the regular programming channels so it got canceled, because you had to pay separately for it - $8/month. In Western Canada (more homophobic) they even refused to offer it at any price, until a lawsuit was launched.
Logo looked at this Canadian example and decided to target Oprah Winfreys market instead.
When did this channel ever air Gay Programming. From the beginning it was "gay lite". References to gay topics, cutsy "titillating" programming about bears and trannies, hacked up indie films with some gay characters. It's disgusting. There needs to be a gay cable channel with a variety of programs. Some talk/discussion, films, documentaries and comedies with gay themes. NOT the schlock they pass off on LOGO.
I can't believe people watch this shit anyway. Their "gayest" show is RuPaul's Drag Race. Please. Most people don't give a damn about some stupid drag queens. Like someone else said, we've seen enough of that boring shit at gay bars.
They should just change the name of the channel and be done with it.
I do kinda love 1 Girl, 5 Gays, and those A. Besides that, not much worth watching on LOGO.
[quote] Seems like eventually most cable channels will be nearly indistinguishable from each other.
The Discovery channels already are
LOGO is not bringing back "The A-List"? It must have had an unusual attack of good taste.
I've only seen 3 really good shows on LOGO: "Open Bar" and the two documentaries on Fire Island and Provincetown.
LOGO is a pussy network.
They canceled Noah's Ark and it was getting decent ratings...cowards
Ah, reality TV programming. Great for producers. But the ruin of TV because, apparently, there is no piece of shit that people will not watch.
I find it hard to believe that RuPaul's Drag Race has more straight women viewers than gay viewers. Why would a straight woman want to watch a show about drag queens?
How many scripted shows did Logo ever make?
[quote]Why would a straight woman want to watch a show about drag queens?
Why would anyone?
Logo = the network for straight women's idea of who "gay men" are.
AfterElton is an equally loathsome site.
Will & Grace really did RUIN everything for gay men!
All it would take is a drama/soap with a team of excellent writers, exceptional actors/actresses, gay/lesbian/straight storylines (Sherman is correct that a wider appeal is needed), and an incredible backing theme...think, Revenge meets Days of Our Lives or some shit like that. Reality series have there rightful place; but their ultimate value can never make up for the creative genius that goes into an effective scripted series. There's no shortage of excellent scripts and super talented people looking to work. Unfortunately for Logo there's a shortage of funding, lack of aggressive programming, and they have a Draq reality show creating their only mainstream "buzz". But whatever, they need to attract advertising dollars to keep the doors open so....
Logo had Rick and Steve and then canceled it. Logo also had the Big Gay Sketch show and canceled that one as well.
Logo is for straight people who don't care for production value.
[quote]there actually was a genuine all LGBT TV station in Canada in the 2000s. (PrideTV)...
The Canadian cable companies refused to add it to the regular programming channels so it got canceled,
No. It still exists and was rebranded 'OutTV'. The issue was the porn flicks they played at midnight Eastern time, which aired at 9 o'clock Pacific.
Two or three years ago they used to program blocks of short films (mostly gay themed). Those probably didn't get great ratings, but I really liked seeing them.
I also liked Beautiful People.
It was nice to have LOGO as a go-to place for shows that nobody else played. Now they are filling the schedule with stuff that you can watch on at least 4 other channels.
I loved the florist competition show that ran for 2 seasons.
"I do kinda love 1 Girl, 5 Gays"
The worse show on television. Made by MTV Canada, it wasn't supposed to feature gay men initially, but they found that the gay guys auditioning were more willing to be explicit than the straight people. So they changed the format.
What a group of idiots. The guys on that show are pretty stupid.
I love that LOGO thinks it's going to compete with Bravo, with shows that aren't even good enough for the WE channel!
LOGO is still airing the "NewNowNext" Awards, which is better than nothing.
LOGO just ran a special with Wanda Sykes. Is that gay enough?
I miss Noah's Ark! That was a good show lol
So what are the new gay shows? I'm tired of "Drag Race" and reruns of 90s teeny bopper shows.
The last time I watched Logo was for the "NewNowNext" awards so I could see the tv solo performance debut of pop trash Neon Hitch and her song "F U Betta" lol
Anyone remember Rick & Steve? That show was sooooo good!
LOGO is not bringing back or developing any new shows.
Love him or hate him, but you have to admit. Andy Cohen has developed great gay reality shows for Bravo, and Bravo has more gay content than Logo!
[quote]Love him or hate him,
Bravo has a lot of gay camp entertainment, but you rarely get non-stereotypical gay characters / contestants. But then reality TV lives from over the top drama with over the top personalities.
LOGO is a disgrace and a very very sad statement regarding the success of a gay themed TV channel.
Even with 'just' ten percent of the population and all the gay friendly men and women (not to mention the women who are obsessed with slash fiction) a proper Gay TV station should be profitable when the audience is treated with respect and not as some dumping ground for archive material.
LOGO can suck my dick. Awhile back, there was a thread here called "Let's program the Lesbian Television Network" and there were some GREAT suggestions for programming. Maybe someone can start a "Let's Program The Gay Men's Network?" thread?
Speak the truth r51.
LOGO has scheduled a new series, "DTLA", starring Darryl Stephens (Noah's ARC).
[quote]The Learning Channels no longer teaches
That's a lie! Thanks to TLC I'm a master in dwarfism.
Did you complain when major networks had gay themed shows? Probably not.
Can someone please help me with this?
Logo once aired an indie movie about a young woman who was obsessed with Stevie Nicks and had a little gay sidekick dude who dressed goth.
It was interesting and weird. Funny, too.
Gypsy 83, r58.
The number of reruns of Roseanne and Golden Girls that they air is ridiculous. Both shows are good, but come on. You can turn on TV at any point of the day and find episodes of both shows on at least two different networks.
Did they cancel "5 Gays, 1 Girl"?
Thank you so much, R59!!
How did you know that?
I watched it a few months ago, r58.
And yes, I'm a Stevie fan.
Even "RuPaul's Drag Race" will be a re-run this fall, a re-run of the show's first season.
I figured something had changed when I saw that The Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders show was being aired.
I have Logo, and it's not worth watching anymore.. And, add to that list these channels: BBC America (with the exception of Broadchurch and Luther, what happened to showing more episodes of Come Dine With Me), IFC and Sundance (the horror.. these channels were so good just a few years ago with a great selection of independent films and documentaries)..
Ru's Drag Race starts airing in early winter r64, not fall, except when they did an all-stars season and that isn't coming back. Ru's show was LOGO's only big gay success, and it's still a huge success. I think they should let Ru program his own all-glitter, dance music and drag queens network. Drag Race is a cultural phenomenon in the gay community, there is a large audience for that sensibility, and fag-hags love it too.
Yeah, RuPaul's Drag Race is an awesome show and a cultural phenomenon. If they were smart, they'd take start spinning it off and doing shows with former queens instead of bullshit puppet sex shows.
[quote]Ru's Drag Race starts airing in early winter [R64], not fall, except when they did an all-stars season and that isn't coming back.
R67, R64 is referring to the promotion that Logo has been running for "Rupaul's Drag Race: The Lost Season."
I was confused when they started running mysterious ads for a 'Lost Season' this summer, but now I know that they are repeating Season 1 as a weekly show this fall - as though it were new.
Apparently Season 1 has been out of the repeat rotation for years and also isn't available for rental or purchase from the various streaming services. So now Logo is promoting it to make it event viewing this fall.
I thought Alyssa Edwards was getting her own reality show, produced by Ru, which follows her dance school in Texas?
R66, IFC has been showing some great movies recently that never get aired on other channels anymore, like Serial Mom, Cruising, Gosford Park.
LOGO's "big thing" this season is a repeat of the first season of RuPaul's Drag Race. Is that all that LOGO is capable of?
All cable channels refuse to stick to one theme. They all eventually become general channels that repeat the same shows as other cable channels. there is a market for gay shows and movies-- and not just gay people but even to straight people. This is annoying.
It seems like TCM and the food network are the only cable channels to stick to its original purpose.