I know you are supposed to look at the clothes but, damn, some of those broads are distractingly fug.
Don't you mean ugly enough to stop an old lady's heart?
The Modeling Industry is run by Gay men, so the women reflect that. If the modeling industry was run by straight guys, the female models would all look like strippers from Booty Camp Bar.
Straight guys also have zero taste in women too. I have seen a lot of hot guys with some pretty fug women.
Do mean "interesting" or "ugly?"
Gay men ran the fashion industry in the 80s and 90s when there were a lot of beautiful runway models. I think the designers grew jealous of all the press those supermodels garnered and were happy to cast ugly, stringy nonames so people talked about the clothes again.
Years ago I was at a very beautiful resort in Florida. They were shooting an ad for an expensive jewelry line with a model in the swimming pool. She was decked out in some very expensive necklaces, earings etc. Trouble was, she was so ugly that all the guests standing around the pool watching kept shouting "Deeper, Deeper". Was so damn funny.
Also as women customers get fatter, models get skinnier.
It detracts much from the fashion line when the model is extraordinarily attractive, but if you use a few for a shoot, you have to include them in the line.
Most are Hermaphrodites which tend to have a lanky body's with little to no breasts.
This is what the typical Versace model would look like if straight guys ran the industry.
The fact is that most runway models are there because they look like Auschwitz victims. Put a bit of lippy on them and from the front row they become acceptable coat hangers. Most are quite ugly and gaunt in the face.
[quote]ugly like.... Lindsey Wixson?
Actually, yes. I have seen her in person. Homely as fuck.
Not one of those women at R11/12 or R14 could ever get a job as a stripper. Definitely women hired by gay males.
You don't have to be pretty to be a runway model, just very tall and skeletally thin.
That chick at R11 looks weird as hell! Like an alien or something. And what's wrong with her mouth? She looks like somebody punched her in it.
As I said read the original post R11/12/14. MANY. Not all.
Lindsey Wixson is weird as fuck looking. Like a prepubescent little girl with those fat, pouty lips. The fact is most models are not pretty when not made up by professional make up artists. Some are but many are not.
they all look like malnourished retards.
I have never understood the appeal of Giselle Bundshen- total WITCH face. Ugly. Yea, if your straight, guess that body is considered primo, but put a bag on that face.
Those who run the modeling industry hire women who have the bodies of teenage boys.
so where/who are the real beauties then? Bagging groceries? churning butter? Making Lolcats?
Exceptional good looks went out of style several years ago for both male and female model.
Odd, isn't it?
Most beauties, true beauties are little things. Very rare to find a tall beautiful faced woman. The exception would be Paulina Poriskova or some of the older models. Think of the most gorgeous women you have ever seen, facially. They're usually 5'4 & under.
A truly beautiful woman has better things to do than starve herself into a grotesque.
The body types of strippers and porn stars are what straight men like. Even if they're made of silicone, straight men like tits, hips, and ass. Gay men think these things make a woman "fat."
I LOVE Arizona Muse (pictured at R14), but that's not a teribly attractive photo of her.
She's so hot and a lesbian. Her lover is Freja Erichsen, another hot model, who is semi-retired from runway work at present.
I think many current designers tend to sacrifice a beautiful face for a tall, skinny body to drape their clothes on and also for that ridiculous horse walk.
Neither Arizona nor Freja walk particulary well but they have charisma and beauty to compensate.
Would gay male fashion designers use male models to show women's clothing more often if that was an accepted industry norm? That's a good question. Runway fashion has become so dissociated from what the vast majority of women are actually wearing (which has more to do with what children in developing countries are able to put together in sweat shops cheaply than what looks good on Western female bodies) that you might as well turn it into a big drag show for all the relevance it has. Also, some of the clothes and makeup and hairstyles these women are modeling seem to me to be intentionally anti-beauty, the way so much visual art is deliberately anti-decorative.
I know it's a feminist cliche but if you look at the beauties of the past, they tend to have at least a little puppy fat on them. It goes against evolutionary biology to suppose that the most attractive women would be the ones who were so severely underweight that they had stopped menstruating.
[quote]so where/who are the real beauties then? Bagging groceries? churning butter? Making Lolcats?
Hon, I see beautiful young women every day on the streets with little or no makeup on that that are naturally more beautiful than any runway model. I personally know one girl who is gorgeous and tried modeling but, for some reason, she does not photograph well. I guess the angles of her face aren't good on camera. She has a beautiful figure too.
I also think you have a little too much invested in everyone thinking runway models are the ultimate in beauty. Are you in the industry?
Most runway models are homely as hell but have the skeletal body to show off the clothes, which is the point.
But print models tend to be better looking cause they're selling a brand and need to stand out. There's a reason Versace still uses Gisele Bundchen even though she's 32. People recognize her and can associate her with a brand. On a runway you need to be more anonymous looking.
Hell, most major brands even use movie stars to front their labels in print and tv ads, see Chanel with Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis.
Fashion has always been disassociated from the opinions of the masses. They pretty well pride themselves on it.
Freja Erichsen has a pretty face, she's a bit tomboyish looking but she evokes that kind of 1960s look, especially when she had the Bangs and shaggy fuller hairstyle.
I couldn't believe how skinny she was when I saw her in person, because in most of the editorials and ads she did, I always focused on her cute face.
You would not believe how anorexic looking most models are in person, it's downright scary!
These models are usually very tall, Kate Moss is an exception, and they are all way too thin, usually 100 pounds and under, which is abnormally thin for women who are close to six feet tall.
As many have stated here, models are human clothes hangers, nothing more. The age of the Super Model, or model who has a distinctive recognizable look is over.
I don't get the weird gap tooth yellow teeth look which so many models now have, it seems the industry is going out of it's way to hire average to ugly looking women. Sad. Very uninspiring, especially to people as myself who remember when designers had specific models, and other attractive women, as their muses. Loulou for St. Laurent etc, those days are over.
Fashion used to be about fantasy, lots of fashion conscious women used to aspire to be as attractive and classy as a gorgeous model or the designer's muse, now, not so much.
The days of Suzy Parker, Carmen, Jean Shrimpton, Noami Sims and the Evangelista/Turlington/Campbell/Crawford supermodel era, are long gone.
R23, I recently saw the Ballet Trockadero de Monte Carlo, and at the show I noticed that all he male dancers had the kind of muscular, lean-thighed, cellulite-free legs that women are told they ought to have. Yes, the fashion industry thinks women ought to have the legs of a danseur in drag!
I also want to know who convinced the movie and TV industries of the same thing, because those industries are supposedly run by straight men.
i have to agree.... this 'lindsey wixon' person is just a troll... i mean, i've seen uglier people in real life, yes, but i would never look at her on the street and think "wow! she's pretty." i just wouldn't even notice her. i do agree that the reason skinny boyish looking child-faced girls are walking down these runways is because gay men run the fashion world. no offense to gay men, just they don't appreciate real female beauty for the most part.
Lindsey wixon's mouth is like a birth defect. She makes me shudder.
I was looking at runway photos the other day and wondered the same thing. When I was a teenager the models were gorgeous (it was during the "Supermodel era" with names like Cindy Crawford, Helena Christensen, Claudia Schiffer).
Now they look like emaciated camp victims with no personality and no soul.
"Neither Arizona nor Freja walk particulary well"
That can come with age. My daughter didn't walk well until she was at least 6.
"Chanel with Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis."
That would be Dior, not Chanel. It helps to know what you're talking about before making big, sweeping statements about an entire multi-billion dollar industry.
"Fashion has always been disassociated from the opinions of the masses. They pretty well pride themselves on it."
And that GOD for that. I can see slobs in sweat pants whenever I want to. Fashion exists as one of the last bastions of G-L-A-M-O-U-R and unabashed sexuality. Lord knows Hollywood gave up on that decades ago. Most starlets these days look like dog shit.
That Wixson person looks like a bug.
The female models are as ugly as sin because the all the males involved in the modeling industry are gay. They don't care. Being a "Scout" in the modeling industry trumps choreographer and hairdresser combined.
What models? It's all celebrities now!
Ellen for Cover Girl? Nuff said!
My mother gets a knitting magazine that comes out of Colorado (I know) and the models are horrifying -- bad hair, bad makeup, downright ugly. The "cover girl" is always the worst of the bunch. My friends and I make up stories about them (again, I know).
The women are hideous and the guys are just as bad.
It's interesting--if disheartening--to speculate on what is so wrong with our culture that we prefer these ghouls to the likes of Cindy Crawford and Buzzy Kerbox.
Beauty went out of style. Why?
What the hell happened to Ali Lohan!
[quote] Beauty went out of style. Why?
Because now it's about the skinny body, not the face. Which, to me is ridiculous. It's easier to diet and work your ass off to achieve being skinny, that it is to be born with a remarkable face and great bone structure.
"Fashion exists as one of the last bastions of G-L-A-M-O-U-R and unabashed sexuality."
Current fashion is absolutely not about sexuality, it's about sickly emaciated women wearing clothes designed by people who aren't attracted to women.
Sexuality has been very much removed from the glamorous end of the fashion industry.
The models today are supposed to appeal to WOMEN, not men. It's all about $$, and women are the ones buying the clothes. This is why so many women have become slaves to dieting and eating disorders. They want to look like the girls on the runway. They know they can starve themselves to a size two, but they will never look like Cindy Crawford, Linda Evangelista, and the rest of the models with the gorgeous faces,
I think it has more to do with having a unique look and facial symmetry than conventional standards of beauty. And many models who do the catwalk don't do a lot of print work because they don't appeal to the average consumer. Goes for males as well as females. You may see some good-looking, athletic male models on the runway but a lot of what you'll see are anorexic androgynes who look like they'd fallen into a meth-induced coma at a tattoo parlor after asking for "the works."
A lot of these girls are very interesting looking. You have to be tall, thin, and able to be an expressionless clothes hanger.
I get the feeling male models are props at best, entertainment for male corporate executives at worst.
Really disagree with the question.. I don't think any runway model is ugly.
Lindsay Wixson to ME is a beautiful model. Her lips are amazing and she has features that are so unique. All runway models are gorgeous. I hate the typical stereotyped meaning of "beautiful".
Could someone please explain to me what happened to women's waists? That picture @R46 is typical of the boy-child look that women are evolving into. Is it a lack of fat on their hips that makes them look like boys. Is that what gave women the curvy hourglass shape of the past? Even all those "beach babes" Radar does spreads on have no curves. Just straight up and down.
Oh my god looked up the Lindsey wixon person everyone is talking about.
Shes ugly like fetal alcohol syndrome trailer park ugly.
Those fucking canine teeth.
The pug nose and cabbage patch face.
Lips in some pic looks infant and almost normal
I see gorgeous girls all the time, both short and tall. Many are very shy; others don't have the discipline or the aggressiveness to get glamorous jobs. Easier to get married and not face constant rejection. Have always felt it's the ladies who "have something to prove" that try harder. Re the necessity of being tall&thin. Having Marilyn Monroe-style curves I can tell you that if the garment isn't very short and form-fitting,it makes me look like a "very pregnant elephant." Sure the fashion industry overdoes the super-skinny look. But unlike me, they can wear far more styles of clothes well. Then again I was told that a curvy body like mine would distract the viewer's eyes from the clothes. Now why aren't styles created to flatter the average, and expanding female body?
So many haters here, holy crap! The level of anger in these comments makes it sound as if these women, the models, spit on you, kicked your dog, shot your family, or did something worth getting angry over...and yet you're mad...because they're not your definition of pretty...and somehow that makes it okay for you to be mad because the fashion industry won't accept your definition of pretty...so you have to verbally abusive someone who just takes pictures or walks down a catwalk for their livelihood. What kind of effed up complex do you all have, anyway??? It's like you feel like you all have a CLAIM to these women, like they're personally disappointing you. Just mind your own beauty business and stop worrying about others. If you have issues with your own image, then changing what models look like is never going to help you anyway. You sad people
Has fashion ever been about women? It seems to have always been about teenage boy bodies with a somewhat feminine face.
"Arizona Muse", Huh?
That cannot be a REAL name, what a ridiculously fake name.
I recall seeing Lindsay Wixson in a documentary about Donatella Versace.
Donatella was fitting Wixson for some runway show, she was raving how cute and unique she was! I think Donatella called her "a little doll".
I was shocked how bizarre looking this young model was and wondered how the fuck she got into the business.
I seems the people who discover models keep looking for women with very extreme looks, because, in this univers, Wixson is not a pretty woman, perhaps on Mars, because she looks like an alien.
My brother & his friends once begged me for seats to a show. It was such fun to see how deflated they were after the show. Now when I offer them an invite, they scowl viciously at me! Straight men really hate that no boobs, no hips, flat ass look.
I actually think we would sell better if the models were curvier, I dont know why the industry persists with this fugly look.
In what universe is a Daria Werbowy considered attractive? Unless you're a lesbian into skinny women I don't see it.
R71, more re the industry, please!
I wouldn't necessarily blame gay men in the industry for ugly models, more like a shift in perception of 'edgy' combined with the latest advances in Creative Suite. Back in the 80's and 90's, post production technology wasn't anything like today so you HAD to hire genuinely attractive, symmetrical photogenic women to model. Now they can take any flat faced 6'0 strung out Eastern European teen, add a bit of a smoky eye and photoshop and bam = instant editorial.
Absolutely it is the fault of the gay men in the industry. It's the same reason women are getting such ugly haircuts (gay men are telling them that they look "great") They are taking the piss out of these women, and these women are soaking it up!
Women, if you want an honest opinion, ask a STRAIGHT man. Don't take beauty tips from gay men, they don't even find you attractive!