I love the people that are "hygienically challenged"
is there an updated version?
Wow, this is from 2002. I'm looking at some of the closeted gays who have since come out. So far:
[quote]Bass, Lance. Self-described "power bottom."
[quote]Harris, Neil Patrick. FOD.
[quote]Martin, Ricky. FOD. Has officially let fame go to his head.
and of course this classic, although the poor guy is still "in":
[quote]Wood, Elijah. A very nice man. FOD, seen with Franka Potente to forestall rumors of his liking men, specifically Dominic Monaghan.
Perez Hilton was the PR counter control of the A-list.
Instead of having real info leaked out, the entertainment industry decided to find a stooge (Perez and Gawker) to play along, saying nothing of revealing importance, but pretending to be radical, while legal shut down the A-list and others like it. Because the official Corporate spin coming from Entertainment Tonight and E-Online and others, was not being taken seriously.
You are all being duped like Sheeple again, now.
[quote]Dicaprio, Leonardo. Slut. Reportedly aggressively bisexual. Treated Claire Danes horrendously on the set of Romeo. Reported heavy drug & alcohol use, to the point where it interferes with his acting performance. Hygienically challenged. Punk. Allegedly made gay porn under another name. Linked with Naomi Campbell, Cameron Diaz, Natasha Henstridge, Eva Herzigova, Lauren Holly,Juliette Lewis, Demi Moore, Kate Moss, Bijou Philips, Baby Spice, and Kate Winslett.
OK, so where's the gay porn he made?
W&W for R5. You are dead on.
yeah, yeah R5. And soylent green is people.
You are hopeless, R8.
The A-List was debunked a long time ago. Most of the "gossip" on it was bullshit. And shortly after it was debunked, the original young woman who ran it quit updating it (around 2004), probably because she was finally called out on her bullshit "gossip".
What's linked at R1 is just a giant copy/paste of what originally was on the A-List.
The only good, reliable gossip to ever show up on the web was and still is courtesy of DataLounge.
I've read that before at DL R10, and I took The A-List with a grain of salt, but I do think that what R5 is saying about Perez/Gawker is entirely correct. Even if The A-List is BS, I still do think that Perez/Gawker keeps people from checking around and coming across bits and pieces around the web that may be true.
In other words R5, Perez Hilton and Gawker are the Ron Pauls of the gossip world.
The A - List was bullshit, but it was a fun read.
[quote]Even if The A-List is BS, I still do think that Perez/Gawker keeps people from checking around and coming across bits and pieces around the web that may be true.
Perez hasn't been relevant since 2009. Nobody reads that shit anymore since he sold out and his "gossip" is always out-of-date shit.
r13, why was it BS?
I just scanned the link, and a lot of it was proven later, or repeated by DL (when we had real insider gossip)
I agree that the A-list had some great celebrity profile items that turned out to be true.
People dismissing the A-list (in its entirety) make me suspicious.
I have to agree that after scanning through it, the rumors are pretty much ones we've heard on DL over the years. I did have to laugh at this, though:
[quote]Mizrahi, Isaac. Straight. Linked with Sarah Jessica Parker, Kim Cattrall, Kristin Davis, and Cynthia Nixon.
It's not just Perez and Gawker, it's all of them. The so called top gossip blogs don't have any insider information, they are shills for publicists. Unless a celebrity is arrested and it's a matter of public record, or they're photographed pissing in the street, you won't find anything real anywhere.
There's a link between the "reputable" tabloids like US Weekly and People, and the PR agencies. There is a limit to what they are willing to say. So yeah, you get B.S. about hook ups and people falling out, or fake rivalries or affairs, but it's all nonsense.
In the age of Twitter and Facebook, if you do regular searches for certain celebrities, you'll learn more about them than all the blogs and magazines out here.
The A-list started as a collection of persistent rumors on the Usenet newsgroups alt.showbiz.gossip and alt.gossip.celebrities from before the turn of the century.
R19 You speak the truth, but PR plants the hell out of social media too especially twitter because it's so open and searchable (and comment sections, including here). Twitter is an effing godsend to PR.
I work in corporate PR damage control and I imagine the tactics are all about the same. The key is to create conflicting info which plants seeds of doubt, which erodes trust in the legit source. So you literally create other sources.
I suspect Lainey is 100% on payroll, as is Celebitchy, Dlisted -basically all the big gossip blogs.
If a gossip exposes even one celeb for real, they'd be shut out. Blacklisted -no more info for you. and remember these bloggers are in business, this isnt a hobby. And they could be sued, bankrupted if they fck up. Lose their house, their savings. Over outing a celeb? Don't think so.
Hollywood protects Hollywood. Hollywood will always protect gay in Hollywood. It's a rule that no one breaks, not mags, not paps, no one.
Ted Casablanca broke the rules, look what happened to him.
Most photo ops, even the unflattering ones, look staged.
It said Mariah used Tommy Mottola to get a record contract. They said hello at a party and the next time she saw him was in his office with her mother a few days later when he asked her to sign right then and there.
We love you MC!!
CDAN is questionable. The NY Post did a big expose but it ran on April 1, 2012. I wasn't sure if it was real or not due to the day. Given he has basically said Britney has HIV, his veracity needs to be examined.
Lainey I think is on her own. She is in Toronto, far from Hollyweird. And has some great sources.
r21 i so right on.
About CDAN. Questionable yeah but not only for the reasons you state r29 - The NY Post didn't do an "expose" exactly and the story may have been a joke. Only if you actually believed that "Enty" is some Hollywood entertainment lawyer who lives in his parent's basement and weighs 300 pounds and is an alcoholic. That is a character. Anyone with a brain knew that was a character. I'd love to see a real expose on CDAN because I suspect it's PR-owned.
Most CDAN blinds are totally completely made up. I read stuff on there all the time that I personally know not to be true. That said it's obvious PR uses CDAN to put blinds out there that are meant to refute rumors about their clients. I can think of a few in recent memory - CDAN's numerous recent blinds about Bradley Cooper being 100% straight is the most obvious.
Think of it this way. The more crazy blinds there are out there about celebs the less believable any gossip is. That's the methodology here. It's called obfuscation. PR playbook.
LAINEY - her sources are primarily PR spokespeople. She cuts deals with them to get on board with the narrative on their client in exchange for some inside info about other people. But even this has changed. She rarely dishes real dirt anymore that wasn't already reported elsewhere, such as when she felt free to get tough with Reese after her arrest. Lainey knows Reese has had a drinking problem for YEARS. She never reported on it, never put it in a blind, nothing.
Lainey makes seven figures. She is not some indie soul blogging from her walk-up in Vancouver (soon Toronto). The indie image is just that - an image. It's what gives her the cred she needs to stay on top as the most-trusted gossip. Which is why all the PR people are at her door, wallets open, trying to get into her bed.
[quote]Lainey I think is on her own. She is in Toronto, far from Hollyweird. And has some great sources.
Lainey lives in Vancouver and doesn't have any sources despite what Lainey @ r30 says.
r31 Lainey has sources. I said her sources are primarily PR people, so 99% of her reporting is PR spin laced with her self-described "edgy writing." They have her on speed dial because she is one of the most trusted sources in gossip when it comes to their target market - smartish, savvy women ages 25-45. If they give her an exclusive scoop on a client, she gets an exclusive story.
Notice that Lainey doesn't publish a ton of exclusives, but when she does it is always about the same few celebs. There's a pattern there if you choose to find it, I promise. Have fun!
Like I said, she's sitting on a 7-figure income. She knows exactly how to keep that gig going.
I suspected years ago that Lainey was in bed with PR as well as in bed (figuratively of course) with Perez when they met and gushed at Cannes one time. She was the only person who ever seemed to like him.
Around that time, Perez did an about-face on many of his celeb hints on who was gay, etc and started inning people. He was rewarded for ass-kissing by climbing up the ladder, the way Lainey ladder-climbed in status the glossier her blogging got.
Nobody in Lainey or Perez' world is gay. Nobody is gay at E! Online or Unreality TV - all I suspect in the pay of big PR companies (and ultimately stars' managements), to print dumbed-down versions of events for joe public.
Take the biggest boyband of the minute. One in particular, pushed incessantly by the media as a 'womanizer', his personal and private image, the little things he does on Twitter couldn't be further from that image. He'll go out and party, mixing with men and women platonically and just having a nice time.
All these blogs and media outlets will then run a story that hints about womanising and choose only the pics where he is stood with women, even if the guy took pics with other guys/spent time with them in the same night. They haven't been as bad with it of late but it could start up at any time, in theory.
I think these outlets are literally paid to mold the public perception of someone according to some badly thought-out contract that then locks that person into the image until it's contractually over. Your team are in full flow (because they are paid to be) and blogs like Lainey/E! Online, etc, are dragged into it as well to help promote and, worse, influence, because they are the public's first access to viewable content about stars these days (it's no longer the TV).
In the meantime the public are battered by torrents of PR-processed dross that is so skewed by the time someone reads it that it can be the polar opposite of what happened (or didn't). And of course any innuendo within an article by the writer (paid/told to write something a certain way) only helps confirm a notion too. It's very psychological.
All this because big money sums are changing hands. Stars' people and media has no social conscience whatsoever. It's all about people in the industry feathering their own nests and using the unwitting public/fans to do it. It's a really sad and tragic cycle in my opinion.
Melissa Etheridge banged Helen Hunt and Gillian Anderson?!
Gillian Anderson slept with Helen Hunt?!
I feel like it's the 90s all over again...and these people still have big careers.
That was going on in the early 00s, R34. Ted Casablanca outed Anderson and Hunt as lovers in a series of BI's.
My favorite post from the A List:
Apple, Fiona. Humorless, self-important brat. Holding on to reality with only a couple of fingers.
Apple does have a sense of humor though. She's been a good sport on Stern's radio show.Self important? HAHAHA. She's a little pretentious but she's got talent. However they got that hanging on to reality bit with a couple of fingers spot on. After smoking pot for nearly two decades,she's starting to sound like homeless woman shrieking at an imaginary 6 foot tall rabbit!
The biggest faux pas they made was that she's bi-sexual. She admitted to that back in the 90s. Very bad job by them. The site should be called the Z List instead.....
R35 He didn't have to out them. They were photographed together quite a few times.One could come to their own conclusions from those photos and the accompanying whispers.
Isaac Mizrahi ...straight? His picture is next to not only nelly in the dictionary BUT queen as well!
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