Where does DL weigh in regarding LANA DEL REY?

Heeeeeere's Lana...

Love her. Her shows are always sold out in the small venues i which she plays. I've been trying to get tickets for a while.

What's wrong with her lips?

Like her song but her style can grow old quickly.

I love her! I don't care what the haters say. I think she's stunning and talented. The fact that she doesn't play on sex but instead is focused on what's important, her music, is a bonus.

Great hair in that clip. I like her voice, though she seems to take herself bit seriously.

She has a good voice, but I don't get the hype. The songs are nice until you hear a few of them and realise they are quite same-y.

Mentioning Marianne Faitfull in the same breath is heresy, OP.

Marianne's voice, while limited, is far more interesting.

And what's more…Marianne would walk over to this limp, tired bitch, spit in her face and then put a cigarette out in her eye.

Gah, I love Marianne.

[quote]What's wrong with her lips?

That's her anus, silly.

She sucks

I love her voice and think she is gorgeous. She is going to be a huge star. Would love to see her hook up with Taylor Lautner and become a major power couple.

Flash-in-the-pan

r7 Marianne would put two cigarettes out in your eyes, borrow some Stevie platforms, and kick you hard in the VB for mentioning the candy bar.

She can't sing for starters. Her songs and music are silly and immature, the kind of shit a 26 year old without any life experience would sing about. And she's had some bad plastic surgery. Hey Lana, Donald Duck wants his lips back!

Oh and she's the daughter of a rich guy who is backing her. If she really wanted to be "indie", she'd refuse daddy's help and do it on her own. But it's just so obvious how badly she wants to be a famous indie rock star that she has no problem letting daddy pay the bills.

Love her last 3 songs. Video games is one of the best songs, best chart songs should I say, in years. She really puts Adele and Amy into the background.

But the Gaga queens hate her because she could take the place as the next Madonna. Watching the Born to Die video, it looks much more authentically like what a young Madonna would be doing now rather that Born this Way.

It's weird that DL and gay men have taken so long to hear about her, they were really off the radar on this one.

OP = btt

"btt" -- were you assigned Lana Del Rey and DataLounge at your image management job?

Awful too much talk going on in here about this no-talent …

[R12] She'd spit in my snatch.

We're out of love now, it's NOT just a baaaad paaatch.

Fuck this silly, puffy-lipped, Julia Roberts-wannabe bitch. Hipster blues singer, my ass. Go listen to some Billie Holiday, stat.

Everyone’s Accusing Lana Del Rey of Ripping Off a Song

All her singing is vocal fry....ack!

The US hate directed toward her is probably racially motivated, she is a white chick that's not trying to sing like a 90s R'n'B diva. She's making beautiful subtle alienated pop and not the mainstream US retarded R'n'B fodder for the low-brow masses. Anything new or different scares the US shitless.

Repacked, collagen-infused failure who was once Lizzie Grant.

Couldn't make it as a mainstream pop star, either.

The reviews are started to come in. Slant gave it a 4 out of 5 stars.

Like her music, but believe that she is about as "real" as Avril Lavigne. She is a product, which is okay but it doesn't make me love her.

And for her defenders: I'm neither a gay man, nor old, nor American, nor do I like Gaga or Madonna.

[quote]Anything new or different scares the US shitless.

Those plastic duck lips scare me shitless.

Here you go, a little more sense of irony in this one. Sure, the dreamy synth style could get old as one poster noted -- but I definitely want her Art Director. :) Gorgeous (she, the room, AND the tigers).

Did daddy buy her career?

I would say the US hates her more for being a former pop singer who reinvented herself (with her rich father's $) as an alternative musician. It's not like she was playing coffee houses waiting for a big break, her image is a complete marketing device.

Interesting angle but not unprecedented: see Alanis Morrissette. And we forgave her for it since the music was so good. Same here, I hope.

I liked her on SNL. So sue me.

Fiona Apple

She looks so much better here:

[R22] is right. I actually like Blue Jeans although not the SNL version =shudder=

She's not bad for a dyke.

The UK's up and coming Ren Harvieu is similar in style to Lana, but with a great voice.

Bored of these self conscious hipsters. I'll stick with what I know and love - Britney.

Her album has leaked and it's amaaaaazing!

Ren Harvieu reminds me of Dusty Springfield.

Mindnumbingly average. Don't see the appeal in the slightest. In fact, I yawned 3 times while typing this....

Well she's not as cool or awesome as Sharon Van Etten, who's new album Tramp, should be getting all the hype.

But real or not, Videos Games is an awesome song and it's great she's up the standard of chart pop. The R&Bling shit is puke inducingly bad. I wouldn't even dare to call it real R&B, go back and listen to R&B from the 60s and you#ll hear music with soul.

Modern R&B represents everything wrong with modern America: lazy, vulgar, homophobic, sexist, materialistic, narcissistic, entitled, stupid, cheap... yuck. The sooner it's wiped off the face of pop the better.

I judge a performer's talent by how they are live (Adele). I judge a re-mixer/producer's talent by how they make a performer sound in post (Britney).

There is "room" to enjoy both I think. (I never want to hear Brit sing live, but I'll dance on the floor w everyone else if her pop song is playing)

I had never heard of Del Rey before SNL. I like this style of music, but for this style you should have "chops" and Lana doesn't.

Sorry but, speaking as a musician, on SNL she sang out of tune on both numbers. Horribly.

There's room for as many indie/folkrock/pop/soul singers as can "make it" on my playlist - but I want neo-soul and indie singers to sound good live also. If I'd only seen the video or heard her produced recording I might enjoy it, and still might listen...but knowing she's so off pitch when live (and kind of boring to watch)ruins it for me.

I'd heard and loved the "Dog Days Are Over" recording before I ever saw/heard Florence and the Machine live, but then found that Florence also has pitch problems. I still hold out hope that Florence will get better live.

Lana is still young and perhaps her managers will get her someone to help with the out of tune singing. Here's hoping.

I thought part of the "hate" against her was that her label employed an army of PR shills who've attempted to astro-turf her popularity on sites like Twitter, Tumblr, etc. (and frankly, some of the posts in this thread sound like they're from PR hacks). That, and everything about her is manufactured - her name (Lana Del Rey not even close to her real name, but a stage name chosen to give her that right mix of indie mystique), her image, her music, etc.

Video Games is a nicely produced song, and she sounds good on it in the studio. Absolutely horrible performance live on SNL - a jumble of nerves, could not get the notes out (she's had better live performances elsewhere). But it's pretty much the only song I've heard from her that I've liked - the other songs I've heard haven't really interested me.

Maybe she'll do well, maybe she won't, but after her SNL performance, she's really going to have to prove herself now - which is what a true indie artist should be doing anyway.

I've just heard the album, it's very good. Vastly superior to the pop fare of Katy Perry, Gaga and Rihanna.

National Anthem is just fantastic. Over all it one one of the best "pop" albums I've heard in ages.

Excellent, can't wait to get it on Tuesday. The other singers pushed here are good, maybe even better singers technically -- but they don't have that lush David Lynch other-worldly quality to them that Lana does. Totally seductive.

I've been playing "Video Games" obsessively the last few days. Hasn't happened in a long time.

It was released in Ireland 2 days ago, it's really cool album, oddly there are hardly any pics oh her in the cover booklet. It's just lyrics and one picture similar to the cover pic.

Stand out tracks are Video Games, National Anthem and Radio.

I don't get all the hate, there is so much sexism directed toward her, for guys don't get the same type of scrutiny or hate based on their looks that women get, and isn't P Diddy, 50 cent, Gaga and Rihanna stage names too but no one seem to care.

Love her. Album released on Monday in the UK.

Interesting, love the faux 60s Nancy Sinatra sex kitten look, almost a bonus to the music -- but like that they aren't selling her looks either. And no bitch bites, people, she is the opposite of scantily clad boa-constrictor-on-neck sex bombs and she could so easily go that route.

She's so beautiful but so is the music. (I felt similarly about Carla Bruni at one point before she started fricking up her face).

It's interesting there seems less attack in the UK, and they really like her music, but the US seem really angry a white chick not acting black is getting attention and hype.

Yeah, something's definitely going on. The wrath seems more about her history/background than the music... and, again, we've seen many a "pop chick" turn it around and do the music they really wanted to do anyway. Alanis Morrissette, as I said earlier, but also Tori Amos and, yes heresey or not, Marianne Faithful. From bubblegum harpie to cool "seen it all" orator.

(I also hear Tanita Takiram in there, remember her? And even, shoot me, Marlene Dietrich in that "SNL" version. Influences or not, it's real music and I've missed it, right down to the oddball harps and strings and military drumming).

R46, no what's really interesting is people in this thread have consistently knocked her for being a manufactured fake and you keep trying to turn it into a race thing

R19 has no idea what he's talking about.

She's alright, for a dyke.

Who are you people who like this talentless loser? Are you all tone deaf or something? Liking her and her "music" seems to be some kind of trendy affectation, not unlike other hipster affectations.

[quote]The wrath seems more about her history/background than the music...

No, no we all hate her music even more than we hate the woman herself. If you can even call that shit "music".

Oh for christ's sake it's her ridiculous overblown lips. They are definitely full of artificial injectables because there are pictures of her without the fake fish lips.

Don't make me laugh with this "haters" bs about people who "don't like a white girl who sings black."

She made herself look like a clown, we didn't.

[quote] there is so much sexism directed toward her, for guys don't get the same type of scrutiny

Show us a guy who gets his lips blown up like a pair of inflatable swimmies with cosmetic fillers and we'll feel the same way about him.

R48, everyone in POP music is fake. But there is a lot more hate in the US than the UK, why is that? It's not because she has history, Lady Gaga was a brown haired girl that sang at open mike session in tiny NY clubs, now look at her and she was treated in the US like the second coming of POP Muisc. So don't bullshit that it's because she has a stage name.

Maybe because her music isn't totally retarded and it means mainstream American might have to start using a brain while listening to chart music again, and that probably scares the shirt of them and the record labels who can no longer pass utter brainless shit r&b and corporate hip-hop off as good music.

Do me favor, turn on a clear channel radio station, which is practically every main radio station in the US, now hear that sound? it's the sound of them scraping the bottom of the barrel.

As usual, DL proves it knows nothing about music.

The reason some people are wary of her is because she's a fucking fraud. Everything about her is just made up. She's got a rich daddy who paid for everything, including her lips.

Fiona Apple did it better.

The ONLY reason clueless eldergays are even aware of her is SNL. They're so excited to find a contemporary artist who sounds old, they aren't bothering with the details.

R55, but in Lady Gaga's case she owns up to the fakeness - in fact, her image is built on being larger-than-life, reinvention and reimagination, deliberately putting on a show. She makes no pretense that her crazy-ass outfits or makeup are somehow her real personality - she is an entertainer, a performer. That is "pop". Further, the fact that she went from being an open mic performer to a larger-than-life celebrity adds to her appeal and "authenticity" of paying her dues.

In this case, there's fakeness trying to appear real and credible. Lana Del Rey hasn't paid her dues, but her PR machine is trying to give her the appearance of having done so, and that's offensive to the artists out there who really do have to work for their fame. Also, people don't like being told what they're supposed to like; they like to feel they've "discovered" it themselves, which makes the army of fake Twitter and Tumblr shills defending her against "haters" so manipulative and offensive.

Maybe it's just the different music genres and the imagery associated with them, but no one cares if a pop star reinvents herself, but someone in the folk / indie space is usually expected to have worked for it a bit before they hit it big and get shoved down our throats.

r59, when did Britney, Rihanna or Kesha ever pay their dues?

EW's somewhat scathing review of her new CD:

R60--even Britney was doing off Broadway plays as a child as well as "Star Search" and the Mickey Mouse stuff on cable. She was constantly touring from her breakout in 1998 to around her breakdown in 2006 or so. Miss Lana Del Grant, or whatever she's calling herself nowadays may have been performing in Brooklyn since she was 17, but she has yet to experience the rigors of performance pop acts like Britney have delat with from early on.

Some people take this shit way to seriously. Its like you think the world is sitting on the edge of it's seat, breathlessly awaiting your opinion. Like her or don't like her.

R60, Britney, Rihanna and Kesha are all pop stars - that was exactly my point. People don't care if pop stars are manufactured or off the assembly line - whether boybands (N'Sync, Backstreet Boys), Disney Channel graduates, or pop starlets like Britney, Christina Aguilera, and numerous others. They just want them to be pretty or outrageous in music videos and make catchy music. There's no pretense that any of them have "paid their dues" (except going through the indignities of being featured on the Mickey Mouse Club or something before hitting their big break).

Lana Del Rey is trying to break into a genre besides bubblegum and dance club pop. Rock / folk / indie has its roots in live performance - whether at open mics, coffee shops, or concert halls. If she really wants to capture that audience, the expectation is that 1) she be genuinely talented as a musician, not sound good due to auto-tune and production values in the studio (which her SNL performance seriously put into doubt), and 2) have some "authenticity" behind the songs she sings - whether from her personal background, her efforts to break into the industry, her experiences behind the lyrics to her songs, etc.

So far she's shown neither of the above, and the PR campaign to dismiss critics as irrational "haters" is offensive, as is the fact she has a PR machine in the first place who chose a special name and image for her to appeal to a more independent audience.

As a point of comparison, Norah Jones didn't exactly start from square zero (famous musician father, concert producer mother), but hey, she's genuinely talented live and makes music that appeals to many people. Lana Del Rey should work on being a better live performer and on creating more memorable music (besides Video Games, which I agree is a good song) if she wants the acclaim.

Not such a bad review, notes some "A level songs". Hardly a pan across the board like some of you here would give her.

Anyway, I'm starting to think "Fraud" is one of those hipster bullshit words that are being used for anything and everything and has no merit these days. You want her to sleep in the gutter before she can have legitimacy? God knows it's not hard to believe she's lived the teen romance lyrics she sings; it's not that deep.

But it works. She's young and lush and doing something just a little different, folks, so please kindly fuck off and don't listen to her if she's above you. For me, even the "corny" element is perfect, very David Lynch romantic (even that review referenced such).

If she's a "Fraud", give me 100 more, please. (I bet this is a case where, if music videos didn't exist, she'd be universally praised right now -- but that big lip sex kitten thing just hits a button somehow).

I think the majesty and beauty of it either resonants with you or it doesn't. I love it. Most pop stars have personas, seems naive of people to think otherwise. I mean, Lady Gaga, among many others? C'mon.

R27 and R47 the difference between and Alanis:

-Alanis doesn´t have a rich daddy buying her career

-Alanis worked hard with producer Glen Ballard to write songs that came from her own life and experience

-Alanis didn´t so much change lanes as grow up. her teen pop (which she also wrote) was released when she was a teen.

Lana del rey is boring white music for white hipsters who will be onto the next thing in less than a year.

While I would never place her in the same league as brilliant new artists like Widowspeak, Sharon Van Etten or Dirty Beaches. I get those artists are not mainstream and don't appeal to a mainstream sensibility. But LDR might do and as people have said her music isn't bad at all, compared to the dredge shit that's out there isn't it better that mainstream kids listen to Del Rey rather than Rihanna or Gaga. Isn't it better mainstream kids listen to Foster the People rather than Maroon 5, or Florance and the Machine rather than Katie Perry.

It's about raising the standard of mainstream pop. As as fakers, come on you don't think 70% of Brooklyn fake indie bands are a bunch of phonies. I mean where is their a bigger example of indie fakery than Vampire Weekend, or the single minded affected style of Mumford & Sons.

Lana Del Rey is the top choice for "cool" moms across the country!

Britney was a hard worker right off the bat. Whatever happened since the Blackout era can't take away from the perfect package she was on debut:

r70, perfect package? Except for the fact that SHE CAN'T FUCKING SING!!!!!

r71 - well, I love her. And girlfriend could dance like nobody else.

Hmmm... I think when the hype/hate dies down Video Games will probably be regarded as one of the best modern Pop songs in decades, even all the critics that have trashed the album still highly praise the track and rightly so. I agree the rest of the album doesn't live up to the hype, it is actually pretty standard R'n'B fare, Dark Paradise and the title track being the exception.

But yeah nothing on the record comes up to Video Games, listening to the album the brilliance of the track sticks out. I read she'll re-release her Lizzy Grant album which is much, much better and probably will get more critical praise than Born 2 Die.

I think she's tremendous

[quote]Except for the fact that SHE CAN'T FUCKING SING!!!!!

Neither can Lana Del Rey

Lana has is starting to get backlash hipster cool. ya know when some artist get so much hate it becomes cool to like them.

Sorta like the reverse of Slumdog Millionaire, where it's cool to hate the movie.

I saw her on Jools Holland (I'm in the UK) and I thought she was all right, nothing special to be honest. I like the video for 'Video Games' and I really enjoy the lush music backing her, however, her voice, delivery and lyrics are not very interesting. She appears to have one way of singing and it can all become very similar and boring after a while.

R72, is this a White girl thing? Are the expectations for them as dancers so much lower? No disrespect but I have heard this defence said many times by fans of Britney and I have never been able to wrap my head around it. Can she bust a move? Sure. But the idea that she is some phenomenally gifted dancer (and that that somehow compensates for her, let's just say, limited vocal range) has always struck me as laughable. I just don't see it at all.

r77:

Lana Del Rey is a beautiful lie, and I don't necessarily think that thats a bad thing

r77:

R64 expressed perfectly most of the reasons why I dislike Miz Del Rey (the main reason being that Del Rey is completely without talent or even basic musical skills).

I much prefer her Lizzy Grant work, it is so much better than her new work.

[quote]But it works. She's young and lush and doing something just a little different, folks, so please kindly fuck off and don't listen to her if she's above you. For me, even the "corny" element is perfect, very David Lynch romantic (even that review referenced such).

"ABOVE" me?! Are you fucking insane or stupid, or both? "Above" me? Her faux intellectual indie music and persona are contemptibly beneath everyone.

And no, it doesn't "work", not in the least little bit. If it did, she'd be a hit. But as it stands, only those with bad taste seem to enjoy her "work". Del Rey will be forgotten by this time next year.

r82 - I thought that was Pixie Lott for a second! What do you think of Pixie?

I'd take Britney, Pixie and all the bubblegum imaginable to fend off the pretentious hipsters:

r75, granted, she can't. But people are bashing Lana for it while Britney has somehow made a career out of not being able to sing.

How does that happen?!?!?

It happens because Lana is considered innovative because she's a middle class, roundly educated rich daddy's girl and not a blue collar poor daddy's girl from Louisiana - now THAT is the bottom line, r86.

I guess because Britney was always billed as a manufactured pop star. Vocal ability is not really intrinsic to being a pop star.

Lana Del Rey is trying to sell herself as this hipster, edgy, coffee hourse artist, and for that, you need to be able to fucking sing.

r88

No, you don't. You basically just have to whisper in a vaguely melodic way.

More hipsters:

Kind of a close cousin, sound-wise, R82. I was expecting a much more radical poppy Katy Perry who "became" Lana by committee. Now more than ever I think it's a non-issue so thanks for posting that.

It's okay, gang, you don't have to like her. Though I love how people try to diminish her impact by assigning her to "eldergays" and "cool moms", as if "Oh, the horror..." That's where the douchebags are revealed and I get a good giggle out of it. Nice try, sad asswipe blogger. :)

I'm surprised her lip situation seems to be getting a pass. I thought most of the thread would be about them..

On the plus side: It does sound better than Katy Perry, Rhianna, etc.

On the negative side: Soulless Manfactured + Marketed; unattractive Angelina+Lolita+PornStar look - I'm really, really tired of the slut-ho look.

It's better than most pop out there but the US critics really have it in for her. It seems rather unfair compared to the torrid of absolute shit that's played on the radio. I mean Maroon 5, worst band ever, Rhianna, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Usher, Justin Fucking Beiber, come on there is no way she is worse than any of those.

I don't know, maybe US music press have become as retarded at the music they praise and the readers that read them.

It's really obvious the US press have some vendetta against her, where as the UK press are much more positive toward her music.

Maybe it is a race thing.

Obviously none of you guys have ever crossed paths with a "hipster", most pretentious bunch of fakers every, by their very ethos they are fakers and Williamsburg is the most affected, pretentious, smug, vacant neighborhood in the NY.

So it's pretty ironic Hipsters hating Lana for being fake, in fact it's totally hilarious.

r77. I agree with you soo much. These off kilter Britney fans know Britney cannot sing, so they throw in this but she can dance response. Britney hasn't danced for years. I have seen her maybe do one routine on Ellen when she performed Toxic where I thought she was a okay dancer. But it's def the blonde hair white girl cheerleader thing, where if you have a pinch of rhythmn, it's look out yall, she can dance. She really can't. She never fully extends any of her movements. She never fully extends her arms, she has these very quick snappy jerky moves, she has been doin since the beginning. I think it's because she HAS 2 dance, because she cant sing, and if you aint singin live you would think she would tear it up. But ol girl hasn't danced for years, she just poses now, and does her lil jerky moves. So many other singers could eat her up and spit her out! She would make an awesome cheerleader tho!

But I give it to her here, she impressed me.

her dead eyes are creepy

I was suprised how much I loved Lana's L-bum. Really nice!

She sounds pretty bad at R30. Why would anyone buy her album is beyond me. Obviously, she is another hyper produced singer.

Fuck, she's got a huge ego. It's obvious her mommy and daddy raised her to be such a precious snowflake.

[quote]"I actually felt good about it," Del Rey opined to the magazine. "I thought I looked beautiful and sang fine."

ha, CD is great but guess what... I, the original Lana Troll, actually have a complaint of sorts. How do you look like Lana Del Rey and use THAT as your debut CD cover?

I mean, we've talked about how she's not selling herself as some sex symbol (though she looks hot as hell in those videos) -- but this is like a housewife from a Coen Brothers film ("A Serious Man"?) Is she going for some kind of suburban statement? It, to me, is far more weird than anything in her music.

I want the big haired Ann Margret sex kitten or some classy variation... her own Dorothy Valens look from "Blue Velvet" (which the strings in "Video Games" evoke). But at least the music is not disappointing.

Born 2 Die, no.1 in 14 countries, and it's still only mid-week. In the UK her album has out sold the rest of the top 10 put together and that's with only 2 days on release.

Does she actually sing, or is she just another auto-tuned Diva ala Britney, Rihanna, Katy, Kesha, Nicki etc...

I really like the record, much better than the critics would have you think. It's nowhere near as bad. It's full of great pop songs.

But I'm now thinking next year there'll be 1000 kids trying to sing Born to Die on all the talent shows.

It proves no gives a shit what critics think

Very cool news, R103, thanks. Wasn't sure what to expect after all the backlash.

One more question answered once I got the CD: she is indeed writing this music too (co-writing, yes). Which takes her one more step away from the Britney manufacturing plant.

At the risk of being pelted with stones, the whole CD feels much more Kate Bush (and that's for better and for worse) than the single. Maybe that's why England is more open to her. In any case, good for her.

(Still hate that industrial CD cover, though. :)

She's awful, but she's no worse than Rihanna or the rest of them. And at least she tried to sing unlike Ashlee Simpson--the REAL worst "musical guest" in SNL history.

She'll def be number 2 on the billboard, maybe she'll even hit get to number 1.

I kinda liked her until I saw her interview on a french TV show called Le Grand Journal the other night. She had major attitude and not in a fun way.

[quote]At the risk of being pelted with stones, the whole CD feels much more Kate Bush (and that's for better and for worse) than the single. Maybe that's why England is more open to her. In any case, good for her.

Ugh! Don't ever compare that trashy talentless twat to Kate Bush.

Lana Del Rey won't be remembered two years from now; Kate Bush is a fucking legend.

[quote]It's really obvious the US press have some vendetta against her, where as the UK press are much more positive toward her music. Maybe it is a race thing.

When will this world wake up to the vile bigotry heaped upon the White, rich and beautiful? Oh, the humanity.

r110, that's because they accused her pf plagiarism, played an obscure Greek song that sounds nothing like Video Games and said she copied it. She eventually walked out and they edited that accusation of plagiarism out, so it seems like she was just a bitch.

You have to admit, the Greek song sounds a lot like her "Video Games" song. Maybe she didn't plagiarize it herself, but someone on her team did.

cool videos . . .that's it.

She's a cunt.

What the fuck is up with her upper lip?

She's making an appearance @ Amoeba on LA on Tuesday. Can't wait...

She gave a pretty cool performance on Letterman last night. I don't know what went wrong with SNL. I was skeptical, I might check out the album.

Uber cool on Letterman, Dave seemed to really dig her.

Yeah, her Letterman performance was MUCH better than SNL. Too bad she made a poor first impression but it looks like she's starting to turn things around.

Rolling Stone gave her recording 2 stars, yet gave Justin Beiber's 3 stars? !!!!!

I guess that judge an artist like Lana tougher, in the same way they'd judge a PJ Harvey album. And that is not to say I'd EVER put LDR in the same league as PJ Harvey. But they judge records on what they believe the artist is capable of and their audience.

Rolling Stone isn't even relevant more. It sold out to hype up and promote corporate hip-hop and R&B ages ago. Hence their promotion of Justin Beaver.

The album is really good, and she was fine on Letterman.

R125 is an idiot.

[quote]Rolling Stone isn't even relevant more. It sold out to hype up and promote corporate hip-hop and R&B ages ago. Hence their promotion of Justin Beaver.

You're not joking. God, they're putting the likes of Britney Spears in the category of someone like Blondie, and co., is just disturbing. It's all corporate pop crap that they push.

seems there is the rumblings of a backlash against the backlash. Wig's brilliant SNL parody of Del Rey, and Liz Phair's interesting thought of Del Rey (linked) she might actually turn it around.

Maybe the harshness of the venom against her ran straight into uncomfortable and at times downright nasty cyber bullying, have just seemed too much.

Her album is actually very good, not brilliant but nowhere near as the American US press have said. They seemed to jump on the hate bandwagon and dished out criticism that was really unwarranted and as r123 pointed out, worse that Beiber? Hardly.

Del Rey has done something which has made the mainstream US press vicious and nasty, so whatever she did, she has to be doing something cool. Go Lana.

Lana fan here and this still made me laugh (hate the Kristin Wiig parody, though, feels pedestrian and like one stupid cheapshot... but this one has genuinely funny moments in it. Leave it to a drag queen to get it right).

It's made no.2 on the Billboard chart.

Wow, all that hype and only a second place showing?

Doesn't she kinda remind you of Kyra Sedgwick? The girl could play Kyra's daughter!

Will the studio brainstorm currently answering to 'Lana del Ray' PLEASE shit in my mouth?!

She's hot.

I don't care about her shitty music though.

The new video is hyper-cool. Sorta like a fashion ad.

think she dropped off the face of the earth after her appearance on late nite TV. She clearly is not ready for "live" performances.

The new video really makes Madonna and Gaga look reductive.

So friggin' beautiful. And a truly great song. I like to think she's getting the last laugh.

I like Grimes better...

Love the new video for Grimes r139, and Annie Clarke makes the most awesome videos. But there is a very sexy cool vibe to LDR's new vid. Almost like a CK ad. I think she's a great pop star, much better than 1 direction, very ad that US music has hit the bottom of the barrel with that one.

Radio.

Born to Die is the song among the 100000000000000 she has sung that really stands out from the rest. Sadly, most of her songs are rip-offs. Why Lana? Be more selective, girl.

She started dating Marilyn Manson and has pretty much disappeared. There was some fuss about a video Eli Roth shot of her which featured Lana pretending to be raped and a dinner with arms and legs served up on the table , Manson is in the video.

She comes over as empty-headed and easily led.

Yes, i agree with your last observation, R143. That's a pity, because she made a great start with 'Born to Die'. You can't sing beautiful songs like this one and then sing trash without getting judged.

So Marilyn Manson is some kind of mk ultra handler? Eli Roth, sheesh.

This creepy clique is some diabolical combination of lightweight posers and evil spiritual influence

She sang Live n Frankfurt, 'Let me fuck your heart in the pouring rain'

She seems insane, indeed...

Unpopular opinion here, I enjoy her persona ,style, and music . She's campy and melodramatic but I dont mind. Alot of her songs are actually incredibly catchy.

And I agree with an earlier commenter here that remarked that the US media has a bizarre against her, the hate just seems so over the top.

Stop trying to make her happen. She’s never going to happen. Threads from six years ago? Puhleaze.

Too late! She already has happened. Whether you dislike her or not she has been a success.

Her last album was a massive hit. Lana got the last laugh. And forget about the SNL performance (how many years ago was that anyway?!)—her recent tour was highly successful and the show I saw was great

Lol, mmkay R150. She’s widely derided and no one who has taste takes her seriously. She is now and always will be a joke. And she never is going to happen. Only Brits sort of like her, and their musical taste is terrible and embarrassing.