Not supposed to be, R3, it just is. You know, like the opposite of what you see when you look in the mirror.
SUCH a gorgeous video, from the great Matthew Rolston.
This was about the beginning of the end of her short-lived career. Pre-tit, that is.
this song is OK but I prefer Janet's other ballads to this one.
[quote]This was about the beginning of the end of her short-lived career. Pre-tit, that is.
Uh, no, sweetheart. This was toward the end of her mega-successful VELVET ROPE WORLD TOUR, which ended at a sold out MSG. She still had yet to obtain the biggest first-week sales of her career, her 10th #1 Hot 100 hit, her biggest first-week impressions at radio and her second #1 US box office movie. These achievements would come with the ALL FOR YOU album and era, which was three years after this. And 27-plus years as a superstar and the architecht who built the house that Britney, Rihanna, Beyonce, J-LO, etc. live in, is NOT short-lived.
Janet was great for a long time. Great pop, dance music, R&B lite. Great videos, dancing, etc. Loved her and Madonna. Up through Velvet Rope was great. (And, Discipline was actually really good, but maybe not classic).
I never really liked her that much though, at least what I could Decipher from interviews, talks shows, award shows, etc. I don't know why. As a black gay guy, most of my black gay friends would scream at me for hating on Janet as a person.
You should be ashamed of yourself, R11.
Ugh Jannot is so fucking annoying.
Jannot? Is that someplace in France?
R13, not nearly as annoying as the fucktards who constantly create Madonna threads just for the hell if it.
acclaimed by who? Janet's kids that she gave away to her sister?
Velvet Rope is such a good album. I'm not JanBot, but girl you have my support! Velvet Rope, Ray of Light, Miseducation of Lauryn Hill....what a great period in music.
R16, it was just the one. She gave away her other kids to the vacuum at her doctor's office. Four or five, by most reports.
Too bad we can't say the same thing about your mother, R18.
R19, that's not very nice. Are you trying to hurt my feelings?
[quote]She gave away her other kids to the vacuum at her doctor's office.
Which, if true, she had every right to do. No one really accepts abortion, do they? Sure "right to choose" is given lip service and people say they value that, but nobody really accepts the actual abortion, right?
I'm extremely pro-choice and non-judgmental of women who choose to have abortions, R21, but when Janet has abortions it's a sign of a weak character. Every rule has an exception.
She never had them, R22. And even if she did, what makes her weaker than any of the other women whom you don't consider weak?
Every other thing in her sad life, r23.
Oh, you're just another hater, R24. LOL. Nevermind, your point is invalid.
Janet The Billionairess Jackson
Yes, it's me, and I'm back.
[quote]I never really liked her that much though, at least what I could Decipher from interviews, talks shows, award shows, etc. I don't know why. As a black gay guy, most of my black gay friends would scream at me for hating on Janet as a person.
You need new friends. She sucks.
This was one of her most pretentious videos ever. Yeah, her body looked good (if that was HER), but the shading and the colored contacts made her look like a mutant alien from a bad FOX TV scifi show. And of course, the weak-assed vocals were still there. It's the only thing she can be consistent with, the fact that she can't really sing. AutoTune is not just her friend, she has sucked its cock.
But she didn't come, R28!
She clearly has a body double in this video.
Anyway, here's the only "Everytime" video that ever mattered.
laughable but not even important enough to get much coverage anywhere. probably fingers herself thinking of Col Sanders
Oh, fuck off, you bitter cunt R28. What the hell do YOU look like? Probably similar to those "mutant aliens" you speak of. Anyone who can find fault about the way Janet looks in this beautiful video is obviously so full of bitterness and envy that it straddles the line of funny and just plain pathetic.
LOL @R31! Surely you motherfucking jest! That weak ass Britney Jackso--err--Spears video is just another piece of evidence showing how BritBrit rips Janet off every chance she gets.
heard when Janet was on Larry King a few years ago, she stunk up the green room something AWFUL....smelled like a dead rodent, and then took a dump the size of a winnebago and didn't even flush the toilet.
[quote]So does your mother, [R1].
My, how trailer park trashy we are!
I don't think they're similar, Janbot, but let's say for a second that they are.
The difference, R36, is that when Britney did it, people liked it. Janet's video and single FLOPPED. Britney hit #1 everywhere.
If a B-list popstar's career collapses like Janet's knees already have, and no one notices, did she ever have a career at all?
No, sweetie. The difference is that one video is an original, artistic piece that showcases the singer beautifully (that would be Janet), while the other is trashy, exploitative MTV dreck that the singer (that would be Britney) tried to be artistic on, but failed miserably in yet another attempt to Xerox something her idol, Janet, had done before her.
If you want B-list, look no further than the soon-to-be-headlining-in-Vegas, self-medicated, dead-eyed, can-no-longer-dance Ms. Spears.
Heard on TMZ that the reason Janet moved to the Middle East is that for the past 9 years or so, she's been smelling like a camel and thought it would be less obvious there. Can anyone confirm this? Or maybe she just got too old and wants to have a reason to cover her scarred face in a burqa?
Janbot, Janet's not been relevant for a decade--and that's being generous. She does no charity work, gave away her only child to her sister and is--arguably--the first wife in a harem. She's a fucking joke. She can't even keep her weight stable.
[quote]Janet's not been relevant for a decade
Only to basement-dwelling trash such as yourself. Tell that to the many young pop artists who still remake and sample her music, copy her style and say in many an interview how much they want to work with her.
[quote]She does no charity work
Well aren't you just one big ball of stupid?
Janet does not charity work? She was just honored by amfAR earlier this year for her tireless efforts in the fight against AIDS, and she just attended their Cannes gala a few months ago, and has co-chaired the event for the past few years. She's also lent her time to UNICEF as recent as June. Her list of charitable work goes back many, many years, but those are just some of the more recent ones. If you weren't such a fucktard then you would know this.
Now go fuck yourself.
Come on Janbot, this is ridiculous and you're trying to get a rise out of people. Nobody remembers or cares about this whimpering "Again" rewrite. I bet even Janet herself has forgot about it.
The sad thing is the other dedicated Janet song threads were for my top 3 of all time, all interchangeable - When I Think of You, Pleasure Principle and That's the Way Love Goes. But a thread for this is just bizarre. I'd have been happy to speak nicely about the other three, but since you were so nasty why bother.
You are making me and others HATE her. The more you bump these silly threads the more hostility you'll be met with.
Oh, but if you look closely, R45, you'll see that it had been nearly a day since I'd been back in this thread. Your friend at R43 decided in his infinite wisdom to bump the thread with his foolishness, and I couldn't simply let him spout falsehoods without replying. Also, why would you hate a celeb because of one of her fans?
Has, meet BEEN.
Maybe she can resurrect Celebrity Bowling.
Has been? Bitch, please. Janet doesn't feel the need to constantly put herself in the public eye. She never has felt the need to. She grew up famous, so fame and all the trappings of it are nothing to her. Her legacy is in every single pop star on the charts today, so "has been" isn't the correct adjective, my dear. Although she IS currently recording a new album, Janet has been doing something every pop icon from her era should take note and do themselves (Madonna in particular)--she's LIVING HER LIFE, and not trying to keep up with the Rihanna's and the Gagas of the world (although both of those girls have spoken on their admiration for Janet).
So, in closing, R47, you can take your Celebrity Bowling pins and shove them up your rotten, used-up asshole.
How would we know if Janet feels the need to put herself out there? No one covers her when she does. JanBot, pick another girl. I can see the gray in your hair from across the room. This obsession isn't good for you. Cher or Britney have a few more decades in them, and I'm sure they'd appreciate the support.
Geez, why all the venom?? I don't think much about JJ but I don't think poorly of her either. However when she appeared on Larry King Live it did occur to me that she might think about getting a personality.
THEN I saw a video clip of her trying to bitch slap Paris. Somethin' not right with that Jackson crew. You think?
Britney has a few more decades in her? She doesn't even have one now. X Factor learned that the hard way.
[quote]How would we know if Janet feels the need to put herself out there?
Because she doesn't. Even at the height of her success, she barely made public appearances and only put out new material every four years or so--at the most. She was never the gotta-put-out-a-new-album-every-two-years kind of performer the way your Madonnas and your Mariahs were.
[quote]No one covers her when she does.
What rock have you just crawled out from under? When Janet cut her hair short a few years ago, it made the papers on both sides of the Atlantic. When she got married, she was trending on Twitter and Yahoo all day. Whenever she decides to step back in the limelight to attend an art show, a function, or receive an award, it's on everything from Entertainment Tonight to Access Hollywood to E!
Janet's should join the cast of R&B Divas LA next season, so she can buy Kelly Price's home from under her and show that wide bitch who is boss!
Someone should write a sitcom pilot for Middle Eastern TV featuring an American popstar who marries an Arab billionaire--but doesn't realize that he has six other wives at home already!! Hijinks ensue. Each episode ends with the American popstar learning a special lesson even as her ego is slowly stripped away.
@55: "Sistah WIves." Janet would be the oldest one.
She's 47, bitch. Nice try.
Janet Jackson is 47? In the waist???
I for one am looking forward to new Janet music.
[quote]She was never the gotta-put-out-a-new-album-every-two-years kind of performer the way your Madonnas and your Mariahs were.
2004 - "Damita Ho"
2006 - "20 Copies Sold"
2008 - "DISSciplined"
[quote]When Janet cut her hair short a few years ago, it made the papers on both sides of the Atlantic.
You must have overdosed on coffee enemas up your rear like Janet did to get rid of all those "sad cells".
[quote]Janet does not charity work? She was just honored by amfAR earlier this year for her tireless efforts in the fight against AIDS
Link to what she's actually done in the last ten years for AIDS. We'll wait.
Oh, and, oh, dear.
[quote]She clearly has a body double in this video.
Nice try, R60, but I was referring to the time she was at the height of her powers -- the 1986-2001 era.
JANET JACKSON'S RHYTHM NATION 1814 (1989)
THE VELVET ROPE (1997)
ALL FOR YOU (2001)
For the uninformed cretin at R61:
From the DAILY MAIL UK website:
[italic]New man, new hairstyle for slick looking Janet Jackson as she lops off her famous long locks[/italic]
Hailing from one of the world's pre-eminent musical families, Janet Jackson is used to being recognised wherever she goes.
But the singer left bystanders doing a double-take yesterday as she stepped out for lunch in London with a dramatic new hairstyle.
Janet has had her long curly locks shorn off and is now sporting a new short crop which she wore in a slicked back, gelled style.
Perhaps the change was prompted by the new man in her life, wealthy Qatari businessman Wissam Al Mana.
It has not been confirmed that the pair are an item but she's certainly been doing a lot of wining and dining with the 35-year-old industrialist.
Yesterday, they were at Italian restaurant Cecconi's in Mayfair and last night they dropped in to Nobu Berkeley.
For both jaunts, the RnB star, 44, teamed her look with turned-up jeans, a black leather jacket and platform wedge heels.
Jackson split from her long-time boyfriend Jermaine Dupri last summer after a seven-year relationship.
Jackson is in London promoting her new movie Why Did I Get Married Too?
She is set to make a guest appearance to introduce the film in Brixton on Friday.
The romantic comedy is the sequel to the 2007 flick, Why Did I Get Married? and tells the story of four couples coping with various marital crises.
There was more UK coverage, but that's just one article...
[quote]Link to what she's actually done in the last ten years for AIDS. We'll wait...
Google it. You [italic]do[/italic] know how to use a computer other than making a pain in the ass of yourself on DL, right?
[quote]Janet Jackson is 47? In the waist???
Why on earth would they have her in nude-silhouette? Her face is lovely but she's too short and stocky and dare I say it--FAT to be in silhouette.
She looks like a dude.
And Christ Jesus but those contacts are just utterly absurd.
JanBot, do you know how absurd it is to post only shoulders-up shots to respond to R68?
[quote]Christ Jesus but those contacts are just utterly absurd
Why, because she's BLACK? Is that a racially-motivated statement?
[quote]Why on earth would they have her in nude-silhouette? Her face is lovely but she's too short and stocky and dare I say it--FAT to be in silhouette.
Janet is 5'4" in stocking feet. When the video for EVERYTIME was shot, she was in peak physical condition because it was at the tail-end of her massively successful Velvet Rope tour where she was dancing and performing nearly every night. She was muscular, toned and probably about a good 110-115 pounds, if that.
[quote]She looks like a dude
On what planet?
but what about the daughter she sold on Ebay? Why doesn't anybody mention that? And rumors of abortions over the years because she is not bright enough to use birth control. Oh, and I saw her last concert tour--the one that they couldn't fill stadiums for so they went with 'more intimate venues' and Janet danced like she had 2 broken hips. Perhaps she can take some lessons from Madonna about how to move because she seemed like two songs in, she was about to drop dead of a stroke.
[quote]Perhaps she can take some lessons from Madonna about how to move
Bitch, please. That'll be the motherfucking day. Madonna showing Janet how to move?? Pa-ha-ha-ha! Madonna wouldn't know how to dance if Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire had given her personal lessons. And she has absolutely NO rhythm, to boot.
[quote]I saw her last concert tour--the one that they couldn't fill stadiums
Oh really? She did pretty damn good in Abu Dhabi...
[quote]From the DAILY MAIL UK website:
Oh, you poor misguided fool, Janbot.
Daily 'Fail' has an online strategy to be the most visited website in the world. To that end, they post American shit to attract rubes like you.
Fuck off, R79. It was also in the British Metro as well. The rube is YOU, my basement-dwelling friend.
Is Janet's last remaining fan posting from the UK?
I used to live there and nobody does crazed pop fan for has-beens like the English.
Her last remaining fan, R81? Clearly you live on Mars.
She looks like some sort of alien with those contacts in her eyes...and yes, they look bad on a person with her skin shade. She's a cute woman - not beautiful like Whitney was, but cute. But even Whitney, Mariah, Mary J. even Celine Dion made stylistic errors at times. Janet looked strange in the "Every Time" video. The remix is catchy and danceable, though.
r73, is that Tina in that picture? That must have been one of the last photos they took together before they broke up as besties. Was Tina a part of the MJ tribute Janet did for MJ on the MTV awards? I cant remember.
Madonna actually went to college on a dance scholarship so yeah, I think Janet could learn a thing or two from her. Of course, I don't Janet even got her GED which is why she always comes across as an imbecile.
Why do Madonna queens insist upon bringing up her old ass in Janet threads? Threatened much?
Madge is a significantly better dancer than Jannot.
[quote]R73, is that Tina in that picture?
Yes, that's her, and Shawnette Heard on the right. I think that was right around the time rumors were going around that Janet and Shawn were an "item".
[quote]Madonna actually went to college on a dance scholarship so yeah, I think Janet could learn a thing or two from her.
And what a wasted scholarship it was, because Madonna couldn't dance if someone had a gun to her toes and said "TAP!" The bitch is, was and will ALWAYS be a non-dancer. The ability to be flexible and pirouette does not a dancer make.
THIS is how you move...
[quote]Madge is a significantly better dancer than Jannot.
If there was an award for Dumbest Comment of the Year, you'd win--hands down. In what alternate universe is this embarrassingly lame, botched attempt at dancing "significantly better" than [italic]anything[/italic], namely anything Janet has ever done? If Madonna was going to copy "Rhythm Nation", she should have at least asked one of her dancers to teach her what rhythm was.
[quote]Of course, I don't Janet even got her GED which is why she always comes across as an imbecile.
She actually graduated from Valley Professional High School in California, and got into Pepperdine but decided to continue on with her career instead.
She also probably wouldn't have forgotten to insert "think" after "don't" in your post. And [italic]she's[/italic] an imbecile?
She got into Pepperdine! You showed them, JanBot! And Madonna IS a better dancer than Janet, fool.
[quote]And Madonna IS a better dancer than Janet, fool.
Heh, yeah, on Planet Delusion.
Love her whisper/mumbling, she whisper/mumbles like no one else! At least no one who's had her absurd level of success. Another reminder of how truly worthless her music is, all of it.
[quote]At least no one who's had her absurd level of success
"Absurd level" is right. Let's see:
first female singer with 5 hot 100 top 5s from one album
first female with 5 consecutive #1 albums on the Billboard charts
only artist with 7 top 5 hits from one album
artist with the most Billboard Award wins
only singer, male or female, to have been nominated in the Dance, Rap, Pop, R&B and Rock categories at the Grammys, which shows scope and versatility of her music ("worthless" my ass)
record for the most successful debut tour of any artist male or female, selling out in 3 continents (USA, Europe, Asia)--a record she still holds
fastest sellout of the Tokyo Dome, also a record she still holds
first female to debut an album at #1 during the SoundScan era
signed two of the biggest record deals in history in the '90s
second only to Aretha Franklin as the female performer with the most R&B #1s (she also has more than her brother Michael)
her first 3 films debuted at #1 at the US box office
NY Times #1 Bestselling author
multiple Grammy winner
when "Doesn't Really Matter" went to #1, she was the first artist to have a #1 Hot 100 song in the '80s, '90s and 2000s.
first female to have a Bestselling Album of the Year (RN, 1814)
Her RN Tour made her the only female to rank in the Top 5 highest grossing tours at the US box office in 1990
First female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy.
First black artist to be awarded GLAAD's Vanguard Award
First female artist to debut in the Top 10 on the Hot 100 (1995's "Runaway")
First female artist to debut in the Top 5 on the Hot 100 ("Scream" duet with Michael)
The live HBO broadcast of her Velvet Rope Tour garnered a total of 15 million viewers, outperforming ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX in HBO homes, in addition to 13 Emmy nominations including one win
With the release of only two studio albums (three including compilation –Design of the Decade) in the 1990s, Janet was named by Billboard as the second biggest/most successful artist of the decade, surpassing such artists as Whitney Houston, Garth Brooks, En Vogue, Madonna, Michael Jackson, and Boyz II Men and only second to Mariah Carey.
Bow down to The Queen
That's all well and good, JanBot, but let's think about the dark side of her life:
Gave away her only child
Aborted every subsequent pregnancy
Became part of a harem in her middle age to save herself from bankruptcy
...and that's only scratching the surface of Janet's pitiable life. She's a disgusting person, but she's done all of these things to herself, and deserves no pity.
R100 Don't be so hard on her. She's a Jackson, so, of course, she's a fucked up, money-grubbing, egomaniac mess.
[quote]Became part of a harem in her middle age to save herself from bankruptcy
Janet Jackson was worth hundreds of millions of dollars before her marriage, darling. Bankruptcy? Where the hell did you pull that one out of? Your ass would be my guess. Or you're thinking of Toni Braxton. When have you ever heard of Janet Jackson ever having money issues? She's not a druggie, not a gambler, and has always had tight reigns over her expenses. The only bankrupt one is YOU--of common fucking sense.
[quote]...and that's only scratching the surface of Janet's pitiable life. She's a disgusting person
Pitiable life? You could only dream of having the life she's had. Instead of being rich, famous and adored, you spend your time trolling an internet forum thread of a person you "hate". LOSER is your name.
[quote]she's a fucked up, money-grubbing, egomaniac mess
But enough about your mother.