After finding out about the Obama's Alice in Wonderland party in 2009, in honor of Johnny Depp and Tim Burton, drinking blood out of vials and shit, I started looking into Depp's history. I know he and Burton were/are deeply embedded in the occult world, but I didn't know how convoluted Depp's story is.
I mean, he really is an enigma. His closer than close relationship with Hunter Thompson (lived with him), who, allegedly directed snuff child porn; The Viper Room/Club Culture; River Phoenix, abused by the "Children of God"; (father sold his kids into all sorts of shit), and his mafia business partner who conveniently for Johnny Depp, disappeared off the face of the earth in 2001.
[quote]It can be assumed that after actor River Phoenix died outside the Viper Room on Halloween, 1993 that members of law enforcement launched their own investigations as to what was going on inside the club. However, no legal action has resulted in the numerous incidents that have taken place at the club over the years. Club Manager Sal Jenco, a recovering alcoholic, has gone public in noting the steps he has taken to keep his patrons safe and sober. Jenco and Johnny Depp were named in the lawsuit filed in 2000 by their partner Anthony Fox in which Fox alleged that profits that should have gone into Safe in Heaven Dead Productions, Inc. were instead diverted into a company owned solely by Jenco and Depp. A preliminary ruling by the Judge in this case earlier this year indicated Fox would prevail in the suit. Fox, however, vanished without a trace in Christmas, 2001.
Who is this guy?
Regarding the drinking of blood, they said it was fruit juice, but knowing Depp/Burton both engage in that sort of thing, who knows.
Schizophrenics make the most interesting websites.
Interesting quotation from Hunter.
"The autumn months are never a calm time in America. . . . There is always a rash of kidnapping and abductions of schoolchildren in the football months. Preteens of both sexes are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by gangs of organized perverts who traditionally give them as Christmas gifts to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings."
-Hunter S. Thompson, page 3 from his 2004 book entitled "Hey Rube"
I knew he trashed a $1200/night hotel room but I didn't know he had an arrest record in three different countries; in New York City, for trashing a $1,200 a night hotel room; in Canada, for assaulting a Hotel Security Guard, (the charges disappeared); and in England, where he was arrested for assaulting a celebrity photographer.
I don't know where I read it but I also have heard about Hunter S Thompson, and his connection to some shadow governments, and snuff films, about how he personally shot a 6 year old boy in the head on film, with a shot gun. So everytime, I hear these Holly-weirds praising him, I just think about that story. Wether it's true or not, Who knows? It still crosses my mind.
It's true, R5. Rusty Nelson, a photographer for Larry King from the Franklin Scandal was offered $100,000 to shoot a snuff porn film.
Also, he tried to show snuff porn to his assistant, Nicole Brown, who ran out of the house before he could turn it on.
And a few kids from the Franklin Scandal identified him as an abuser.
Not only that, he was very well versed in Satanism right down to the way they suck the juice from pineal glands from severed heads. Whatever the bodily fluid is has been synthesized since then
At the link Rusty Nelson is interviewed by now deceased under suspicious circumstances, Michael Corbin. He was a radio host since the 1980s who interviewed people who the msm didn't cover.
r 6 that's horrible. It was soo odd how I read that and then next day or so, saw Johnny and Del Toro praising Thompson, when they made that film about Las Vegas, I never saw it. Something about acid trips etc. Anyways it creeped me out. All I thought was where are they getting these poor children from? I had strange things happen in my childhood, years of therapy, but it just creeps me out a lil more than usual!
They feed on fear!
I know this thread is about Depp, but the snuff film stuff about Thompson is VERY disturbing. I was an English undergrad and several professors worshiped Thompson as a "genius."
It's soo creepy. Where do they find the people they snuff in the films? I don't understand that. Who are these people they kill?
[quote]a few kids from the Franklin Scandal identified him as an abuser
I read that Franklin scandal victim Paul Bonacci who was the one to initially mention a director calling himself Hunter Thompson did not recognize Hunter S Thompson in a photograph.
The Franklin "scandal" is a hoax.
Thanks Mr Wikipedia @R11
The person who wrote that website is nuts. Regardless of the content, their rambling, the frequent changes in directions, the muddy visual images - all signs of somebody who is just nuts.
Anyone who had real evidence would just post it in a linear and logical fashion. The Psychotic rambling destroys the credibility of the info.
What about the eyewitnesses who saw Johnny Depp parachuting over Astoria several seconds before the first plane hit WTC?
The rumor mill is a churnin and the shock waves have left the quiet countryside of France and traveled all the way to Los Angeles. The blind item seems to infer that Depp is back on heroin. His wife dabbles and recently re-hooked herself and now Depp is back on the stuff too. (Matthew McConaughey and Camilla Alva are also in the running.)
What 50 year old decides, "I think I'll start shooting smack again!!"?
this is the first I have heard of these things with Hunter S Thompson
Funnily enough, Depp said Americans weren't smart enough to get the Rum Diaries. Turns out we were
All that and he still bores the shit out of me.
The Franklin scandal was all too true, idiot who posted that it wasn't.
The stuff about Hunter S. Thompson is fucked up, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were all true. And if so, it probably contributed to his "suicide".
And neither is it surprising that Johnny Depp worshiped Thompson. Depp is a creepy guy.
He, also, got the West Memphis child murderers freed.
Thompson was on Letterman years ago and admitted he liked to kill, Dave said something like "you don't mean people" and Hunter laughed and said something like "I'm not going to say it on television". Very chilling.
Thompson and snuff films, absurdly ridiculous.
There was at least one resident dealer at the Viper, same with most clubs. The fact that Johnny's business partner went missing and Johnny ran off to France, THAT, is more telling.
r23, the guy who named Thompson as the cameraman of the snuff shot at Bohemian Grove won his case and a huge payout.
This thread has all the hallmarks of wingnut conspiracy theorist. Bohemian Grove, Satanism, snuff films, pedophilia, throw in MK-Ultra and I would start to wonder if David Icke had taken over datalounge.
r25 is proud of being ignorant.
R26 is proud of being gullible.
I hate my friend Johnny Depp!
Well smell you both.
Nyah nyah boo boo!
R25 Has done his research...Bohemian Grove,MK-Ultra,David Icke?
& you call other people "wingnut conspiracy theorist."
r30 I listen to wingnut conspiracy theorist central, aka, Coast to Coast Am with George Noory, because I find the whole thing hilarious.
No one believes you, r31.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Madonna wasn't the mastermind of all this.
"Madonna" and "Mastermind" do not belong in the same sentence.
Depp has always struck me as a weird, strange guy. You listen to him talk and there's nothing there. He has no personality. He seems soulless in a way.
His support of criminals is nauseating. He was an avid supporter of the "West Memphis Three", three losers who may or may not have killed and sexually mutilated three boys. And in a piece John Waters wrote about his dear friend Leslie Van Houten (she was one of the Manson killers who butchered the LaBiancas) he mentions that after telling Depp what a good person she is Depp wanted to go and visit her! He actually applied to be on her visitor's list but was denied because of some legal matter against him at the time (maybe it was the hotel trashing incident). He wanted to visit and befriend one of the MANSON KILLERS? Good God, what an incredibly fucked up dickwad he must be.
Creepy. I heard Madonna was going to call her new album "MSTRMND"!!!!!!!!!!!
They did not kill those kids, ignorant idiot. Buy a brain, would you?
I want conclusive answers to the questions brought up in this thread: is the Franklin scandal real? Is Hunter S Thompson a snuff film director? What is the conspiracy between the business associate and Depp's fleeing to France? Are the following on Heroin: Depp, Paradis? Mccounaghy and his fiance? Did Tim Burton and Depp drink blook at the White House and /or followers of Satan?
Jeff Gannon murdered Hunter S. Thompson to keep him quiet.
Wasn't the Thompson stuff about him hanging out at Bohemian Grove?
If he was there he probably saw just how depraved the Bush fuckers were and was depressed as hell about W. getting a second term.
r41, he wasn't depressed about it; he was friendly with those people and a lot of other shady characters.
I'm trying to decide if I would think that Depp and Burton holding a satanic ritual in the Obama White House (this was a Halloween party right and these two are supposed to be satanists right?) was more disturbing than the documented Rev. Moon crowning of the universe ceremony in the Congressional offices attended by many Congressman.
I'm not sure.
r43, Bush I was at the Moon ceremony, too. There are photos. It's insane.
Nothing at all would surprise me when it comes to the idle amusements of the super-rich.
There is a small bit of comfort to take in the suspicion that evil old fucks like George H. W. Bush and Prince Philip are scared shitless at the prospect of dying.
Regarding the Franklin scandal; it is no hoax. I read the book, Franklin Scandal, by Nick Bryant (NOT to be confused with the book, The Franklin Coverup).
The book has hundreds of pages of documentation, including sealed Grand Jury testimony, law enforcement documents, etc. and explains, in full detail how this insidious process works. Explains how they wire - audiovisual - places for blackmail, etc. and how and where they get their victims: almost always disadvantaged children, who will not be missed.
Some of these kids were/are so "non-existent" that they've never been issued soc. sec. numbers. However, the largest number of victims come from third world countries.
Tptb are smart enough to mask their heinous activity through charitable foundations like "Boys Town" "Second Mile", Milton Hershey School, etc. It's all so intertwined in "respectable" institutions that its almost impossible to detect, and when it is detected, impossible to believe.
The dirty little secret is many of the most powerful elite are driven not just by wealth and power but by their "Satanic" belief system, which takes many different forms.
Hunter Thompson's Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, with Depp in the film, is absolutely loaded with strange, estoric symbolism. In the bar, whilst Thompson is tripping off acid, everybody indulges in carnal activities turns into lizards including the cold blooded hotel receptionist. He envions his attorney as a baphomet figure with reptile eyes. A strange, mind control, MKULTRA atmosphere is present when they give a young girl LSD and take away her innocence. A woman who works in a cafe they treat as a whore and rape psychologically as well as countless other weird dream scenes with extremely sinister overtones.
Also in the film, I believe in an extended scene, they do the drug Adrenochrome, which is oxidised adrenaline which is produced by the body during a terror/ fight or flight episode, adrenochrome is only available to the body when this terror is prolongued/permanent, the adrenalin then breaks down to form adrenochrome. Masonic/Satanic/Luciferian/whatever you want to call it rituals are designed to stimulate production of adrenochrome. Hence, one of the reasons they torture victims in ritual before they kill them.
Thompson was also writing a book about 9/11 right before he died, which supposedly exposed the dark shadowy world of the elite who prey on the weak.
My cousin's ex-husband was LAPD, on the Ritual Abuse task force, which basically functions to cover up the ritual abuse in crime, so as not to panic the public, so they claim. Bunch of bullshit. It's to protect the elite ritual abusers, of which there are many, especially in LA. He even told her the famous people involved but she wouldn't tell me because he made her swear never to tell.
It got so bad he quit the force, and moved away because many of the cops in that unit - and it goes all the way to the top - are involved in SRA, themselves, and he really felt like his life was in danger, even though, he never made any waves. He's very paranoid to this very day.
Who is JG?
Johnny Gosch/Jeff Gannon/James Guckert
R25 is one of those people who won't buy it, but at the same time, refuses to spend any time researching it for himself. How arrogant is that? As if he's the final word. WTF?
Too many people are like R25, and that is why we have the world we have, where innocent children can be tortured, abused and killed with impunity.
The West Memphis 3 are innocent.
Duke: "I think there's only one source for this stuff. The, uh, adrenaline gland... from a living... human... body!"
Gonzo: "I know. The guy didn't have any cash to pay me. He offered me human blood, said it would take me higher than I'd ever been in my life. I thought he was kidding... so I told him I'd just as soon have an ounce or so of pure adrenochrome... or maybe just a fresh adrenaline gland... to chew on."
Gonzo explains that he didn't dare turn the Satanist down for legal counsel.
Gonzo: "He might have picked up a letter opener and gone after my pineal gland. You know."
The drug becoming more intense, Duke suggests they eat a big handful of pineal gland extract and see what happens.
Gonzo: "Yeah, that's a good idea. One whiff of that stuff will turn you into something out of a goddamn medical encyclopedia man..."
Suddenly Duke sees Gonzo turn into a dancing demon with six hairy breasts on his back and discuss the effects of the extract of the human pineal gland on the brain.
Gonzo: "Your head would swell up like a watermelon. You'd gain about a hundred pounds in two hours. Grow claws, bleeding warts. And then you'd notice about six huge, hairy tits swelling up on your back. You'd go blind. Your body would turn to wax. They'd have to put you in a wheelbarrow. And when you scream for help...you'll sound like a raccoon."
Then, at the end of the clip all you hear is sacrifice....sacrifice....sacrifice...
This needs to go down as one of the creepiest datalounge threads. Evah.
r52, you're very easily manipulated by fake documentaries.
They had no alibis, they all individually confessed to the crimes multiple times and with details of the crimes which had not been publicly released, Echols had a 500 page mental health record before the murders (which included multiple psychiatric incarcerations, a history of animal mutilation/murder, murder/cannibalism threats, arson, violence against his peers and family and delusional beliefs about ingesting the blood of children to increase his "power") and they all plead guilty just this past summer. What more do you need? Have you actually read any of the actual court or police documents? Or are you just stupid?
R55, go ahead and completely ignore new dna evidence found that doesn't match the dna of the west memphis three and links Terry Hobbs to the crime. And you must be stupid because the memphis three didn't admit guilt to get out. They plead an Alford Plea which means they assert their innocence but admit that sufficient evidence existed at the time of the trial to find them guilty. They didn't admit their guilt at all.
Just check out the only Bush pardon from a death sentence. A fucking totally demented Satanic serial killer! Henry Lee Lucas.
His crimes were of a particularly brutal nature, involving rape, torture, mutilation, dismemberment, necrophilia, cannibalism, and pedophilia, with the number of victims running as high as 300-600. And Bush was connected to the same murderous Satanic cult rings in Brownsville, Texas.
Lucas' history with the Bush's goes way back when you review the history of Lucas releases from prison.
As a child, Lucas experienced indoctrination into a nationwide Satanic cult. Lucas claimed that he was trained by the cult in a mobile paramilitary camp in the Florida Everglades in the fine art of killing, up close and personal. Other training involved abduction and arson techniques.
He further claimed that leaders of the camp were so impressed with Henry's handling of a knife that he was allowed to serve as an instructor. Following his training, Henry claimed to have served the cult in various ways, including as a contract killer and as an abductor of children, who were then taken just over the border to a ranch in Mexico near Juarez. Henry has said that this cult operated out of Texas and from a ranch in northern Mexico, trafficking in children and drugs, among other nefarious pursuits. In essence, Henry claimed that what appeared to be the random work of a serial killer was in fact a planned series of crimes often committed for specific purposes.
Some of the murders were political hits, according to Henry, including the occasional assassination of foreign dignitaries. This was not true for all of Henry's crimes. Some he did just because that's what he liked to do. And it was the one thing that he was really good at.
Also Depp was in the Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus (w/lots of symbolism) and a Jack the Ripper movie (where the Masons were shown to be part of an evil society). What is the point of this MK ultra stuff? Sell more movie tickets? Brainwash us?
Do we need to start a MK Ultra thread?
r7 and r9: The world is a big place, and Latin America, Africa, and Asia have millions of poor and homeless children whom no-one would miss.
Yeah - start an MK Ultra thread!
R56, but isn't it odd that he chose this case? Out of all the cases to choose from, he chose the one that, whether true or not, posed the question of SRA.
Face it. Depp's a little creepy.
So why is Johnny Depp such a creepy weirdo?
Yes, please someone start a thread that all the conspiracy whackos can post on. Oh wait, that's every thread.
Yes, r56, how odd that a parent's DNA would be found on their child. Are you serious?! Explain the fabric fibers from Damien's (aka Michael before he renamed himself after a horror movie character) shirt being found on one of the boys and another of the boys blood found on his necklace. Oh! You can't! Because, one, you've read none of the actual documents pertaining to the case, but have instead allowed propagandist articles and videos to form your opinion for you. And, two, the fact that Echols' DNA is linked to the case doesn't support your delusional belief in his innocence.
Jessie Misskelley clearly has a higher IQ than you do.
LOL! I think I know the whacky forum you're from, OP.
Before the internet it was hard to know there were this many whacked out people walking around like they were normal. There is a real connection to those who so readily glomb on to conspiracies - left and right - and mental illness. The more detailed and elaborate the conspiracy the better. They also like to link celebrities to these conspiracies. What happened to just forming silly fan clubs and asking for autographs?
MK Slaves - yea, bring it on!
I blew Richard Speck!
Wow! What a fun thread.
[quote] Explain the fabric fibers
Please. Fiber "evidence" is bullshit. Any decent expert can refute it for the FBI hoax it always was. It's as bad as BS paint chip evidence. Or BS bullet-lead evidence.
Yikes! Now I sound like a conspiracist. But I'm not. I swear. On a stack of ritualized satanic bibles. Smeared in Johnny Depp's blood.
One of Depp's best friends is Marilyn Manson.
The fibers found on the boy were microscopically exact to those of Damien's shirt. There was also clothing hidden at the scene in a bag originating at his stepfather's work site which was shared a parking lot with his own job.
I feel like I'm reading a thread on AboveTopSecret, except everything is more-or-less gramatically correct.
Sometimes I come to DL and worry that I've either lost my sense of humor or the majority of the world is insane. Or maybe it's Crazy Frauen Hour.
Whatever the case, it's a sad state of affairs.
Are we sure we are not confusing Depp with Madonna? This totally sounds like her scene.
r 71, don't try to scapegoat frau for this shit, its crazy men with the mentality of 14 year old boys who are into this kind of shit. Same ones who played dungeons and dragons.
yeah, they can't find the conspiracy sites, and it is too complicated for them
You see, R69, if you only read one side's "evidence" and your only claim to more than passing familiarity with what tests can and cannot support is what the writer tells you, you're not much better than the lackwits who claim Obama is Muslim "because it seems reasonable."
Science isn't necessarily reasonable to the untrained mind.
CSI and Murder, She Wrote are not acceptable on scientific or criminal justice resumes.
Johnny Depp may seem weird to you (who, one can assume, has never met the man), but you seem weird to me. Worse is that the shit you and your crew are spewing sounds strangely like the same lies told by "good people" who got a lot of "witches" killed a couple centuries ago.
Johnny Depp is a witch?
R75 I have no opinion on Johnny Depp or witches, but I have read the actual case documents which you clearly have not. If you'd like to be informed on this topic which you seem interested in discussing rather than spouting off emotionally charged lies constructed by the defense to get their clients off, please, review the link below:
To the idiots who call anyone who researches beyond what the MSM tell you, "conspiracy theorists" provide evidence for all these "official stories" you believe without question.
How many of you have used the FOIA to request information?
How many of you have read books aside from what's on the "Best Sellers" list?
How many of you have utilized the research tools that the Library of Congress provides?
You haven't because you're so embedded in the infotainment society and celebrity spectacle of the highest order that you have lost the ability to discern truth from fiction.
You let the media culture do all of your thinking for you, deciding what is real, important, and vital, and what is not.
Has JG admitted he is Johnny G?
No, r79, he's refused to answer one way or another.
Will someone please accuse the unbelivers of being "sheeple" already? I'm about to win big at Tinhat BINGO.
Um can we get back to Johnny Depp please?
Here's a picture from the Halloween party at the white house with Depp, Burton, the Mia Wasiwhatevska and the Obama family.
So why do you suppose news of this White House shindig was suppressed for over two years?
Depp has a room in his mansion, dedicated to "meditation on vampires" Yep, he meditates in a room full of vampire memorabilia.
He's fascinated by the mythical blood-sucking creatures, and has a space in his London home full of items relating to them, is very close buddies of satanists Marilyn Manson and Keith Richards.
He has also said in an interview he "empties" himself to let demon like beings in to help him act, which a lot of the HW actors do.
A-list actors, especially, are into some serious shit... at least the most wealthy and powerful ones, you have to truly learn the dark arts in order to truly bewitch the audience... so many of them are into magic and the occult.
Rosemary's Baby is based, at least, partially, on truth. Some of these celebs really do "sell their souls" if you will.
Good question, R83. It sounds like something the mainstream media would exploit for everything its worth because it's so stupid.
The ignorance on this thread is reaching staggering heights. This thread is closed. Anyone continuing to post will automatically be branded an idiot.
R58, Depp replaced Heath Ledger, and the director, Terry Gilliam said, none of the script was rewritten after the tragedy.
[quote]Gilliam: The references to death were all in the original script, which people don’t understand. They all thought we had written this stuff after Heath had died and no, we didn’t change any of the words. And that to me is what’s so kind of scary and spooky – why was it so prescient? It seemed to be all about death, it’s so much of it.
Also, the theme of sacrifice is extremely important. In one important scene, there are images of three celebrities who died young : Rudolph Valentino, James Dean and Princess Diana. Seeing these pictures, a woman says to Johnny Depp – who was one of Ledger’s replacements in the movie – “These people … they’re all dead”. Depp replies:
[quote]“Yes … but immortal nevertheless. They won’t get old or fat. They won’t get sick or feeble. They are beyond fear because they are … forever young. They’re gods … and you can join them.”
He then added:
“Your sacrifice must be pure.”
These lines were intended to be said by Heath Ledger.
The director also said:
[quote]“There are forces at work on this film, don’t get me into my mystical mode … but the film made itself and it was co-directed by Heath Ledger!”
Right before the traveling troupe finds Tony hanging under a bridge, Dr Parnassus pulls out the Tarot card of the Hanged Man. It predicted what was about to happen but the occult significance of the card is even more relevant:
[quote]“Esoterically, the Hanged Man is the human spirit which is suspended from heaven by a single thread. Wisdom, not death, is the reward for this voluntary sacrifice during which the human soul, suspended above the world of illusion, and meditating upon its unreality, is rewarded by the achievement of self-realization.”- Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages
I bet he has a copy of “Necromantic Ritual Book,” which teaches consciousness with the Angel of Death on an intimate level.
It is common knowledge in certain circles within Hollywood and the music industry and elsewhere that if one will only fall down and worship Satan, the gates will open. I've been told that Johnny Depp has said openly that he knows that the dark side is responsible for his "success".
[quote]It is common knowledge in certain circles within Hollywood and the music industry and elsewhere that if one will only fall down and worship Satan, the gates will open.
Well, you do have to get on your knees, but it's not Satan you're worshiping.
JD wasn't specially compelling as Sweeney Todd, but he was clearly keen enough to inhabit such a character.
There is this Satanist on Youtube who said Tim Burton is most definitely a Satanist. Every single one of his movies could've been made by Satan himself.
Also, if you ever watched Tim Burton and JD together, it's very obvious that JD doesn't say or do anything without his approval
If ever DL is on trial for abetting freakiness this thread is exhibit A.
Hollywood (or Wall Street, Washington, Rome, etc. for that matter) is filled with secret religions, clubs, and societies which give their members a heightened feeling of power and superiority.
"We are better than the common folks, because we know the truth how the world really works while all those public and easy accessable religions and beliefs are just decoys to keep the stupid masses busy."
The high elite gets the better drugs than the common people.
The ones who know the truth are above all laws.
Membership support, connections and social networking at its finest.
The insiders have the freedom to do whatever they want, because they know that things like guilt, consciousness, fear, etc. are tools to keep the outsiders from becoming insiders. And what good is a secret society when all the "riff-raff" is getting in?
R94 seems to be getting pretty good drugs.
Satan isn't real.
God isn't real.
Magic isn't real.
When I read about the rich and famous more and more, I don't admire them in the least. They are just a bunch of rotten people, and I'm happy being an average guy. I never liked Depp and I think he is one sick pig. Snuff films are real and even the major lunatic Charlie Sheen who is an avid porn watcher had a party and someone n the party brought a snuff film of an Asian woman being chased by a rapist and murder. Sheen ripped the tape out of his video recorder, and took it to the police immediately. The police said the woman on the film was murdered.
I think the ultimate sick thing about Depp is that he had children. Those kids are going to be screwed up with a father like that because it’s obvious he has no boundaries and no scruples of any kind. What a terrific family man Depp is. Check out this part of OP's link article.
(...)Kerouac and his pals Neal Cassady and poet Allen Ginsberg had led a rebellion against Authority in the 1940s and 50s when they created the 'Beat Generation' that dared to take illegal drugs and engage in other illegal behavior, which, in Ginsberg's case, included advocating pedophilia.
I'm getting sick of people saying Ginsberg was gay! He was a pedophilia! Why the hell does the gay community embrace this evil demon seed! Since Deep thought that hanging out with Ginsberg was cool, it is disturbing Depp has children.
BTW, Anton LaVey had followers from Hollywood in the late 60’s and early 70’s. Sammy Davis was an avid follower, Keenan Wynn and many, many others. There were orgies, rituals of animal sacrifices, and other stuff that went on. The people in Hollywood thought the Devil would give them power. La Vey new everything about so many people in Hollywood and knew their secrets, which gave him a lot of control over them.
As for people Like R94, you are proving how immensely ignorant you are. There are so many others on this thread who are backing up what they are stating with facts and links. Just because some of you think this is all a myth, and this thread isn’t valid, that isn’t good enough. The world doesn’t evolve around YOU AND WHAT YOU THINK. BTW, where is your proof? When you are asked for you to prove that its bull, all you do is to come up with remarks and insults, which you are obviously saying you have no idea if its really true or not deep down. While we live in a world in which these horrible things exist. Some of you have your heads up your asses because you can’t comprehend what people are saying on this thread. There have been documentaries on the extreme seedy world of snuff films for years. The FBI has been investigating these cases for a long time, and snuff films especially come out of Asia and other foreign countries. Also, if you don’t like what you are reading on this thread, and just want to hang around making a bunch of stupid remarks, then get out of here and go on another thread!
r97 finally flipped her lid. Watch out.
Could someone explain the story of this Jeff Gannon/Johnny G? I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
In the interest of truth R97, the Charlie Sheen incident involved a copy of the Japanese movie Flower of Blood. It was the story of a Samurai who makes love to and cuts apart a woman at the same time. Not the stuff at the local cinaplex but still just a very clever use of special effects. Sheen did believe it to be real and HE was the one who took it to LA police. They too believed it to be real at first. Do a little research, it's more interesting.
"What 50 year old decides, "I think I'll start shooting smack again!!"?"
An delusional film star, who in his own mind, thinks he is really younger than his body.
Thank you R100, R101. This old chestnut was debunked way back in the 90s when Hard Copy, of all shows, did a story on Sheen's informing the FBI about the Guinea Pig tape. And even then they reported it correctly as a fake.
Has Sarah Ackerman found Datalounge?
Alan Ginsberg liked young men but he was never a pedophile, don't be an idiot. If anyone fucked young boys in far off lands, it was Bourroughs.
Scientology = Satanistic cult.
I love this thread!!!
Wasn't scientology inspired by Satanism? So then there is a link between satanism and Hollywood??
see quote from 1983 Penthouse interview w.the son of the Scientology founder: L. Ron Hubbard Jr. stated ... ., “I believed in Satanism. There was no other religion in our house! What a lot of people don’t realize is that Scientology is black magic spread out over a long time period. It’s stretched out over a lifetime and you don’t see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology and it is probably the only part that really works. Also, you’ve got to understand that my father did not worship Satan. He thought he was Satan.”
getting creeped out ...
R100, what you don't understand is that the LAPD has a specific unit that ensures SRA never sees the light of day. They totally repress any and all evidence that points to Satanic activity. That's how widespread SRA is, especially in LA. But LA is certainly not alone.
Univ of PA, I think, came out with the the now debunked "false memory" syndrome in order to squash all of the claims of SRA in the 1980s, when all of the Satanic stuff started to emerge.
The McMartin case was very real, as are most of the cases that come out like this. . 500 2-4-year olds from different families and different locations all reporting almost the same information did not make it up. They could NOT make this shit up if they tried without some kind of depraved experience.
Read "The Hideous Strength" by C.S. Lewis.
The insidious tentacles of the octopus of globalist control pictures the rebirth in our times of Lucifer's Babylonian System.
Enticed by power/wealth/fame, media personalities are used to distort truth and promote the Luciferian Empire to the mind-controlled and manipulated masses.
Hubbard was very close to rocket scientist and satanist Jack Parsons. They were both in an American Golden Dawn chapter together.
Yes, Hubbard was in fact using Dianetics and Scientology to covertly run Crowleys Satanism on an unsuspecting public.
[quote]"Let the Scarlet Woman Beware I will slay me her child" Alestair Crowley's "The Book of the Law" III:43"
L. Ron Hubbard was very good friends with Jack Parsons, co-founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and the Aerojet Corp, a genius rocket scientist, who worked for NASA and who was also very involved in the Manhattan Project. He was also a Satanist - in 1941, Parsons joined the California-based Agape lodge of Aleister Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis and later became its leader.
He and L Ron Hubbard became very good friends in 1945. Parsons and Hubbard participated in a ritual known as the Babylon Working which is an attempt to bring about the creation of a "moonchild" - "The Whore of Babylon" . They were aided in this work by Sampson Bennetts of the Rosicrucian Order. Marjorie Cameron became the "Scarlet Woman", the fulfillment of the ritual, who he would have wild monkey-sex with during this Babylon working in the desert, with Hubbard looking on.
The official story is that a child was not conceived (it is believed that a child was conceived), but Parsons and Cameron soon married.
In January 1946, Parsons, Sarah Northrup, and Hubbard started a boat dealing company named Allied Enterprises. Parsons put in the sum of approximately $21,000— and Hubbard put in $1,200. Hubbard eventually abandoned Parsons and their business plans, leaving a port in Florida with the boat and with Sarah. A Florida court later dissolved the poorly-contracted business, ordered repayment of debts to Parsons, and awarded ownership of the boat to Hubbard.
The Hubbard/Allied Enterprises relationship lasted until 1947, when Hubbard again defrauded Parsons of a sum of money and ran off again with Sarah Northrup. Hubbard used much of this money from Allied Enterprises to research and publish his book Dianetics, whose "teachings" later evolved into and was superseded by "Scientology."
Oh, and L. Ron Hubbard's reaction upon hearing of his son's death was, "That stupid f**king kid! That stupid f**king kid! Look what he's done to me!" (Source: "Bare Faced Messiah" by Russell Miller, Chapter 20, P. 344)
Disregard that video. I posted it before watching because I didn't feel like explaining, and forgot to erase it. I just watched it and it's not very good.
All this thread needs to make it complete is a link to an Alex Jones site.
so was the tape a fake, or was the whole story a fake (i.e. did Charlie Sheen take a tape to the police thinking it was a snuff film)?
PS: Is someone going to make an MK-ULTRA thread?
please, R115, we know he is a covert agent
I doubt it was a fake, but they certainly were not going to open up Pandora's box considering that someone as famous as Sheen reported it. Not only would it have become front page news it would've probably made Sheen start a full-scale investigation into it.
You do know that Daddy Sheen is a Jesuit puppet, right? It appears Charlie cannot be trusted.
Alex Jones works for the Jesuits. That is why that other guy was killed off...the one who predicted 9/11 right before Jones. Can't remember his name.
The next sacrifice: James Franco, before his 34th birthday.
did you hear James Franco is going to play Robert Mapplethorpe in a film?
Depp is such a poseur.
Who is the bigger poseur, Johnny Depp or James Franco?
Franco can be his heir apparent.
I used to think Depp was a poser after reading this thread- he is heir apparent to Satan.
Franco is the biggest POSER ever
anonymous for safety
This is a freaky thread, I opened it thinking I would read about Depp's crazy backstage demands, maybe some wierdness about him and Vanessa Paradis' sex life.
What is this MK Ultra people keep talking about?
I wish that poster with the relative in the LAPD had been told who the famouses were that take part in this satanic stuff.
What the difference between Anton LeVay's church and Scientology?
Yes, I think Franco wins in the poser category.
Depp is more high school - monsters, killers, drugs
Franco is wanna-be postmodern horseshit
R90 LOL Are you sure about that, Gretchen?
I don't know, girls. Depp might be a bit creepy, but Tim Burton seems like such a harmless guy. Why do we think he's evil - because his characters wear black eyeliner?
If all of the lunatics posting on this thread could be banned from Datalounge, I think it might help Datalounge become an interesting site again.
MK-Ultra was a CIA run mind control torture and abuse program.
Burton is defintely a Satanist. Every single film of his project the Satanic theme.
Even, Alice in Wonderland , with its duality of the darkness and the light, put an emphasis on the darkness that cumulates with the “final battle” and Alice being the savior of Underworld.
The Red Queen represents Blood; the darkness is obsessed with blood and that blood drinking is a major satanic occult ritual.
The Nazi religion was referred to as "the religion of the blood", btw.
So, yeah, Depp is a Satanist considering the films he does, and the people he associates with, and the things he says.
I think this is eerie: Marilyn Manson credits Perfume, The Story of a Murderer by Patrick Süskind as one of the inspirations behind the title of his second album, "Smells Like Children".
Early promotional copies of Smells Like Children featured unauthorized samples from Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
Um blood drinking is a part of Christian ritual too.
what was the Satanist theme of...
"Pee Wee's Big Adventure"?
Nothing, R127. Travolta was a very good friend of LaVey, who, played the devil in "Rosemary's Baby". LaVey was a true Satanist even though he claimed his belief was merely philosophical.
Travolta's slated to play him in an upcoming movie as I understand it.
Travolta can be seen in this picture of LaVey's Satanic alter of cinema.
Sammy Davis Jr., Jayne Mansfield, Travolta, Eddie Albert, Bing Crosby, BOB "Fucking" HOPE (handler of all handlers), Cruise, Jolie, Depp, and a good many of the A-listers are/were practicing Satanists.
So, if one becomes part of the church of satan, is one guaranteed riches and fame?
I'm thinking about signing up.
Oh, great the right wing and conspiracy crazies are here with their All Govt is Evil and enlaving us with chemicals sprayed from jets theories and their favorite satanic cult "facts."
Linking the conspiracies and other delusions to celebrities is a typical symptom of mental illness. It sort of gives them the best of both worlds - they can play with their obsessive grandiose theories and their obsessions with certain celebrities both famous and obscure at the same time.
Seriously, is there an upswing in mental illness recently? Or do the pharmaceutical companies have a shortage of psychotropic medications? Or have they all just really figured out it's more fun to spread their whack to every site they can find.
I know it's easy to laugh off except people should remember that there are many people whose lives have been destroyed by false accusations about satanic cults and other nonsense. And, worse, these crazies can VOTE!
That's the thing about a true paranoid schizophrenic, they cannot see what they are doing and will defend to the death their belief system despite any rational explanation to the contrary.
R142, if you want to talk about people who vote Republican, there are plenty of political threads.
[quote]Alex Jones works for the Jesuits. That is why that other guy was killed off...the one who predicted 9/11 right before Jones. Can't remember his name.
Bill Cooper, who seemed both politically wacked and stupid (leading to his death) with occasional nuggets of truth.
Execept for his expose of Bohemian Grove, Jones seems to be largely in the disinfo business.
Satanism is a Christian religion. Without Christianity there can be no Satanism.
Isn't Satanism so high school? Who consciously chooses darkness, evil over good, light?
[quote]Seriously, is there an upswing in mental illness recently?
Why, yes. It's the chemicals sprayed from jets that causes it.
I used to have a neutral to positive impression of Johnny Depp, but after reading some of his recent interviews this isn't the case anymore. What is it with Vanity Fair's hard on for him? Two years and three feature length articles and two covers. Overkill. Since I subscribe I usually wind up reading most of it.
The magazine inevitably hires either his friends or admirers to interview and report about him. VF articles about current celebrities are typically fawning affairs, but his interviewers are OTT, extolling his intellectual and artistic prowess referring to his readings of beat authors, romantic poets and admiration for various artists. He may be well read. I don't know. But nothing that he's said in these interviews reveals such serious depth of intellect. I came away not knowing if he was more than an actor who is a dilettante.
One was a Patti Smith celebrity interview that was soooo ponderous and self-indulgent I couldn't get through it. These write ups seem like nothing more than attempts to elevate him as the most serious and intellectual actor around. For a non-Hollywood type, he has some of the most over-indulgent PR around.
Vanity Fair has always done fawning interviews with stars. I remember Keanu Reeves and his fist major butt kissing from Vanity Fair. They don't care to be honest about their cover stars.
The Satanist poster is a schizophrenic. I recognize her.
Re Hunter Thompson, any idea what Jann Wenner thought of him?
Thompson was one of the regular writers for Rolling Stone when RS was actually a serious pop culture and political magazine.
IIRC, Thompson's articles were usually illustrated by "The Wall" artist Gerald Scarfe.
Gerald Scarfe married actress Jane Asher, formerly Paul McCartney's long time 1960s girlfriend.
Does anyone have the "Johnny and Vanessa are breaking up" thread on their threadwatcher?
If so, do me a favor and bump it, pretty please?
Damn the search function!
r 147 SO what exactly were they saying in the article? I hate when mags do this. Curious, if it was you, how would you handle celeb interviews to make them interesting?
Vanity Fair is a dependable promotions outlet for Hollywood. It's part of the glamour machine. It's not about to let daylight in on the magic. Graydon Carter has hired two English hacks over the years who wouldn't play the game, and were sacked.
Lynn Barber is a take-no-prisoners interviewer who was sent to talk to Nick Nolte. She dared to ask a non-approved question, and he walked out. Toby Young (who later wrote about his time at VF) dared to ask some star outright if he was gay; the star's people went berserk, and so did Graydon. Brit hacks come from a very different culture.
The English artist who often worked with Hunter Thompson and knew him well is Ralph Steadman, not Gerald Scarfe.
Depp worked with Polanski on 'The Ninth Gate', about an illustrated book said to be authored by the devil.
R147, I agree with you. Almost everyone in Hollywood and in the film business tries to act like an intellectual when in reality they are dumb as dishwater or their knowledge is very limited because they are high school dropouts or they never graduated from college to grasp at some degree of knowledge. Its hilarious when many of these actors and actresses who are interviewed on the Charlie Rose show, who is a true intellectual, and they dress in bland colors, and sometimes their clothes look unkempt. Also, many of them don’t comb their hair and sometimes they ware glasses, which they don't normally ware. They speak in this slow clipped form of speech. You get the vibe that they are acting a part in which they want the public to fall for their BS, major eye roll!
However, when my mother went to school in the 40's and 50's the education in public school system back then was phenomenal! In fact the students back then gained an education that was greater than students who graduate from college now a days
[quote]Will someone please accuse the unbelivers of being "sheeple" already? I'm about to win big at Tinhat BINGO.
That reminds me, why don't DL threads ever get Godwinned?
I've noticed that college graduates seem to be as ignorant as a 5th grader, from the 1960s. Kind of sad.
As far as I know Jann Wenner and HST never had any sort of falling out.
Even when HST was a rare contributor to the magazine he was always listed as sports editor under the moniker of Raoul Duke.
Wenner just wrote and edited a huge love-letter gushing book about him too.
R97, Matt Dillon thought hanging out with Ginsberg was cool, too. Are you saying he's into pedophilia and snuff films?
R35, 3 losers who MAY OR MAY NOT have killed children? That's a pretty cavalier attitude for people who were quite young and may very well be innocent. I live not far from this area and I can tell you these boys were railroaded by the sheriff's dept and local authorities because they were rebellious. They never got anything approaching a fair trial. The travesty here is that there are a lot of people in prison from backwaters like this, who never got a fair trial either, but they did not have celebrities supporting them.
R15, thanks for that communique from your mother's basement.
Charlie Rose is an intellectual?
Well, he wants to be seen that way. He's more an egotist. Though I will admit he's better at letting his guests talk then he was years ago. Back in the day his guests seemed superfluous to his long essays - he just wanted them to agree with his pontifications. I'd find myself screaming at the TV "Let them talk, Charlie. This is not about you."
R135, all I got out of that site is that LaVey was a consultant on films. Of course, he was a consultant. They wanted it to look "realistic" and he supposedly had the "knowledge". Name me any film where the director doesn't want the sets to look like what the film is portraying.
He does seem like a bit of a try hard, but he's been a superstar for nearly his entire adult life. Imagine what it must be like spending that long in the fishbowl. I don't feel sorry for him or find him interesting, I just think being that famous for that long would take its toll on people much stronger than Depp ever appeared to be.
That said, his Viper Room business dealings and the way he ran to France like his ass was on fire after Phoenix died remain suspicious. Also, the recent Vanity Fair article makes it pretty clear he's a full-blown alcoholic, and it's ruining his looks. Tosches describes him passing out in a bathroom floor at one point. I wonder
If JG is Johnny G, why doesn't his mother come out and say so?
after reading the VF expose on him, I have to admire the guy.
He knows he's rich. And famous.
He doesn't regret it, but just lives his life.
R167, you admire him because he doesn't regret being rich and famous? Uhm...why?
r160, they're guilty.
Well, regardless of whether the West Memphis 3 are innocent or guilty (I have not followed this case), out of thousands and thousands of cases to choose from, isn't it odd that Depp chose this one to take a stand? The case just had to include Satan.
And pimping his movie at the same time is real classy.
I'm starting to believe Depp's eaten a few babies.
I'm going to believe he is a poser with the mind of a high school kid and is just drawn to cool stuff, including Satan, without seriously considering a crime worse than consuming drugs. Isn't that a tiny bit more likely, in absence of more concrete evidence of baby eating?
Satan is cool?
He is definitely an alcoholic. He drank like a fish when he was in his 20's-30's. What gets me is that he has never stopped drinking completely but was able to control it for a while. He seemed happy but I think recently, his drinking has gotten out of control and hence, the problems with Vanessa.
Satan is cool. I mean the name alone ~Satan~. He stands for rebellion and mystery and well, the dark side is always sexy. Is this even a question?
Most people can control their alcohol when they try and are in a good place.
I think R171 got it.
r174 opines like a child.
"When I read about the rich and famous more and more, I don't admire them in the least."
Well, now there's a blanket statement for ya!
Nah, Johnny Depps persona as a soft-spoken, mild mannered man is strictly to cover up the demon that lurks inside.
Take my word. He is evil.
Sure thing, R178. I have no problem taking the word of some anonymous guy on the internet.
I heard Depp dug up River and fucked the corpse.
R179, I admit it's a semi-informed opinion. If I was on his jury, I'd have to vote "not guilty" because of reasonable doubt, but it's my opinion, nevertheless.
Ricky Gervais made sure to call attention to his drug use during the awards ceremony.
Why wouldn't a 50 year old want to shoot smack? 50 years old...what the fuck else you going to do?
Many shaman - a person who acts as intermediary between the natural and supernatural worlds, using magic to cure illness, foretell the future, control spiritual forces, etc. - who claim occult powers use drugs to do this. They are tapping into the demonic eros that surrounds the earth.
So, it's no surprise to learn Depp does massive drugs.
It was commonly thought that people who managed not to OD tended to "grow out of" using heroin as they got older. I don't know if this is still considered true.
Those boys weren't guilty of anything. I would look to a boyfriend of a mother or a stepdad of one of the little boys. Pedophiles often hook up with fat young mothers with pretty young children. Think about it.
Look into the process church: scientology, drugs, snuff films, satanism, celebs.
r 184, stop appropriating Native people's culture, religion and heritage.
A lot of the celebrities, even if they are not brilliant (or even close to it) can come up with a good line, or joke, or comment - never heard one from Johnny Depp.
Does Depp have insane fans like the Twihards? It would be interesting to see how they would rationalize Depp's weird eccentricities.
I know someone who is insanely in love with Depp, and she is into all that occult shit. He is her god.
R186 hasn't read any of the case documents and is completely ignorant of the case outside of watching propaganda videos made by HBO and paid for by single digit IQ movie and rock stars. In other words, r186 is a moron.
[quote]Does Depp have insane fans like the Twihards? It would be interesting to see how they would rationalize Depp's weird eccentricities.
Yes, they are obsessed with the guy and they never discuss his oddness, but instead gush about what a nice guy he is. I learned that when visiting a Depp fan forum.
R192, what makes you think they're guilty? I'm really curious. The only thing I know about the case is the little bit I've heard on TV, and knowing how the mass media skews things, I can totally believe what they've said is a lie.
The DNA evidence linking them to the crime, the multiple confessions from all of them, the lack of alibis for any of them and Echols' long and storied homicidal and literally blood thirsty psychiatric records.
I thought the DNA wasn't a match.
Echols' hair and shirt fabric were found on one of the boys and Baldwin's blood and another of the boys' blood were found on Echols' necklace. Read the actual case documents.
Okay, I read the link at R55, and I agree that what we've been told by msm is bullshit.
Last month, the case status update reports new DNA findings exclude all three suspects. There are 2 spots on a victim’s shoe that are the profile of a common unidentified male, and another spot with a different male profile.
It is the defense’s position that this exonerates Echols, Baldwin and Miskelley, because it does not belong to them, which was stated similarly in just about every news article as well.
It does nothing of the kind, as there were over a dozen WMPD personnel on scene who could absolutely be the origin of the DNA.
The last I read, the hair found on the boy matched Echols' as did the shirt fibers. Also, the blood on his necklace matches that of Baldwin and one of the kids.
Was the film director Nicholas Ray ever involved in this stuff. I have a reason for asking.
Wouldn't it be great if datalounge solved a crime like Murder She Wrote? Seems like this board is filled with Jessica Fletcher types.
well his people are going public with the breakup now.
It's on the front page of people this week...
Once upon a time, Johnny Depp and Vanessa Paradis lived a quiet family life far from the spotlight in the sleepy French hamlet of Plan-de-la-Tour.
But that time is no more, and now the couple largely reside in L.A. – when they are in the same city at all.
Depp, 48, and Paradis, 39, who are parents to Lily-Rose, 12, and Jack, 9, have not appeared side-by-side on a red carpet for more than a year. Multiple sources tell PEOPLE in this week's cover story that the relationship is all but officially finished.
Fwiw, Depp is nice to nobodies. I've written this before, but, what the hell, I'll write it again.
Close relatives and friends of mine were consulted by both Depp and Marion Cotillard while they were in Wisconsin researching thier roles as Billie Frechette and John Dillenger for "Public Enemies."
(Amazing- Cottillard was in Paris collecting her award for La Vie En Rose on Saturday, collecting her Oscar on Sunday, and on Tuesday, was having dinner right down the street from my home in a little hamlet in Northern rural Wisconsin.)
Anyway, by "consulted" I mean they participated in several meetings and small dinner parties with them. To a person, all reported to me that both of them could not have been more down to Earth or nicer; almost disappointing in how normal they were.
Both were attentive and asked them about themselves and were good listeners with zero "I'm a movie star" attitude.
True, behind thier backs, Depp and Cotillard could have been ridiculing them, but I don't think so.
I believe Tim Burton is probably a Luciferian due to his relationship with Helena Bonham Carter. She is thought to be a member of the Illuminati, for she is somehow related to the Rothschild family.
It's become known so that Depp can get some in NM, where he's filming the Lone Ranger
r205, sometime ago, I read that "The Lone Ranger" project was abandoned and now you write that it's filming in NM.
Good. I've never paid to see a Depp film except "Public Enemies." Perhaps "The Lone Ranger" will be the next one.
"Finally! After years of… Well, I don’t know where to begin, Disney’s The Lone Ranger starring Armie Hammer as the masked cowboy and Johnny Depp as his Native American sidekick Tonto is set to begin principal photography next month in New Mexico. Shooting will take place in cities across the Land of Enchantment, from Albuquerque to Santa Fe to Shiprock, and is expected to wrap sometime in August."
Depp originally turned down the role of Tonto, saying that as a "mutt from Kentucky" he wasn't really qualified to play him. Sites like Racialicious fell all over themselves praising him for not taking a role from a person of color.
I guess money talked loudest in the end. That palimony settlement isn't gonna pay itself.
Something tells me this version is going to be irritatingly PC in portraying the wise noble Native American and the clueless white man. Even though the noble Indian's being played by a guy who's essentially white.
"They are tapping into the demonic eros that surrounds the earth."
Depp is related to the Queen of England.
He survives on a diet of lice and absinthe.
The person with the Santanic bullshit should be banned, she is simply insane.
Datalounge can ban nutcases, can't they?
204, I think you got lost. You belong over in the recovered memory thread.
I would go to a recovered memory thread except I can't fucking find it.
The Echols name is ALWAYS bad news!
There is no recovered memory thread, R216. He was joking.
I know he was kidding and not really talking to me...if you haven't noticed, we can't do a search.
How is Anjelica Huston involved in all this?
[quote]Something tells me this version is going to be irritatingly PC in portraying the wise noble Native American and the clueless white man. Even though the noble Indian's being played by a guy who's essentially white.
Like that re-make of THE ALAMO where they spent $100 million to demonize white people then wondered why no one went to see it.
OK just had to look up r204's comment about Helena Bonham Carter being connected to the Illuminati and got some crazy Mead Bold screed about her character in Order of the Phoenix having a number on the neck that somehow related to Aleister Crowley's OTO.
Apparently her great aunt was a Rothschild via marriage and her father represented the Bank of England at the International Monetary Fund which also has some Illuminati significance.
Can't these people come up with some sort of chart that sorts out the Satanist/Illuminati/Masons/Lizard People overlap or just stick to one conspiracy already?
R222, the whole idea is to confuse the hell out of you and make it look as if there are thousands of conspiracies. The truth is that there are lots of different conspiratorial groups; however, the people at the very top are very united in their agenda.
In the late 1700s, the Rothschilds, and other wealthy fuckers met and came up with the following Luciferian agenda for the next 250 years:
Use violence and terrorism rather than academic discussions
Preach "Liberalism" to usurp political power
Bring about class wars by substituting the word Freedom for Faith. "the aid of 'Capital' would be "entirely in our hands.'"
Any and all means were justified, on the grounds that a moral code left a politician vulnerable. "Those who wish to rule must have recourse to cunning and make-believe because frankness and honesty are vices in politics"
"To attack by the RIGHT of the strong, and scatter to the winds all existing forces of order and regulation, to reconstruct all existing institutions, and become sovereign Lord of all who left to us the RIGHTS to their powers by laying them down voluntarily in their 'liberalism.'"
Remain invisible until the very moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning or force can undermine it.
Use Mob Psychology to control the masses. "Without absolute despotism " one cannot rule efficiently
Advocate the use of alcoholic liquors, drugs, moral corruption and all forms of vice, used systematically by "agenteurs" to corrupt the youth
Seize property by any means and without hesitation, to secure submission and sovereignty.
Foment wars, but direct the peace conferences so that neither of the combatants gain territory. They would be placed further in debt and therefore into our power.
Choose candidates for public office who will be "servile and obedient to our commands, so they may be readily used as PAWNS IN OUR GAME
Use the Press for propaganda to control all outlets of public information, while remaining in the shadows, clear of blame
Make the masses believe they had been the prey of criminals. Then restore order to appear as the saviors.
Create financial panics use hunger to subjugate the masses.
Infiltrate Freemasonry to take advantage of the Grand Orient Lodges to cloak the true nature of their work in philanthropy. Spread their atheistic-materialistic ideology amongst the Goyim. "When the hour strikes for our sovereign Lord of all the World to be crowned, these same hands will sweep away everything that might stand in his way."
Use systematic deception, high-sounding phrases and popular slogans. "The opposite of what hs been promised can always be done afterwards... That is of no consequence."
a Reign of Terror is the most economical way to bring about speedy subjection.
Masquerade as political, financial and economic advisers to carry out our mandates with Diplomacy and without fear of exposing "the secret power behind national and international affairs."
ULTIMATE WORLD GOVERNMENT is the goal. It will be necessary to establish huge monopolies, so even the largest fortunes of the Goyim will depend on us to such an extent that they will go to the bottom together with the credit of their governments ON THE DAY AFTER THE GREAT POLITICAL SMASH."
Economic War. Rob the Goyim of their landed properties and industries with a combination of high taxes and unfair competition.
Make the Goyim destroy each other so there will only be the proletariat left in the world, with a few millionaires devoted to our cause, and sufficient police and soldiers to protect our interest.
Call it THE NEW ORDER. Appoint a Dictator
Fool, bemuse and corrupt the younger members of society by teaching them theories and principles we know to be false.
Twist national and international laws into a contradiction which first masks the law and afterwards hides it altogether. Substitute ARBITRATION for law.
Yes he was, R200
Johnny Depp is in the Illuminati?
All of this really is how people brand innocent people witches and hang and burn them. Let's talk about the Pope if you want to brand anyone, it is known he has protected child raping priests.
R227= Johnny Depp
Bumping this thread in recognition of Led Zeppelin becoming Kennedy Center honorees. I can't really remember but I'm sure they had to be mentioned as Satanists at some point in this thread.
I'm not connecting them to Johnny, but those "Memphis Three" people are guilty. The one with the dark hair is evil incarnate. Ignore Piers Morgan and watch his interview with them. Watch his eyes when one of the others says they want to help find the real killers.
are you kidding me - Led Zeppelin will be Kennedy Center recipients this year?? Did they offer it first to others who declined? They're getting this recognition before Mick and Keith - ? Wonders never cease...it'll be interesting to see Jimmy up there knowing full well he's still into Crowley (in keeping with the theme of this thread, which I've just read the 1st time and found hilarious).
So what's up with Depp? He's a poseur, as others have noted here, and a badly aging one at that....if you're pushing 50 and still have to wear black liquid eyeliner when you go out, you have a definite problem.
I'd love to know what his now nearly teenage kids think of him.
After finding out about the Obama's Alice in Wonderland party in 2009, in honor of Johnny Depp and Tim Burton, drinking blood out of vials and shit,
The Obamas had an Alice-in-Wonderland party where they drank blood out of vials??? And drank blood out of shit???
Depp's been trying to live down his Teen Beat/21 Jump Street days for years. He goes to extreme lengths to be as weird and quirky as possible to distance himself from his 80's heart throb image.
Why can't you accept he's just a weird dude and it really doesn't have anything to do with being embarrassed about 21 jump street?
He's a very empty and uninteresting guy who tries to make himself seem interesting by 'becoming' those whom he idolizes. Fifty year old men who are fulfilled and interesting don't go about trying to make themselves appear interesting. They just are.
I think Johnny Depp has the mentality of a teenager who lacks an identity.
I agree with R235. Brad Pitt was headed this way but seems to have grown up a bit.
"I'm not connecting them to Johnny, but those "Memphis Three" people are guilty. The one with the dark hair is evil incarnate. Ignore Piers Morgan and watch his interview with them. Watch his eyes when one of the others says they want to help find the real killers."
"The Memphis Three" have a lot of fangurls, several of them famous (Eddie Vedder, the Dixie Chicks, Peter Jackson, Patti Smith, Winona Ryder), but I'm not one of them. Damien Echols, the most famous one, was a dangerously mentally ill teenager who killed animals and spoke of wanting to kill his parents and cannabalize them. His own parents were afraid of him. In interviews he is totally without affect, speaking in a monotone, his eyes soulless and dead. His fans say he's like that due to his years on Death Row, but he was like that long before he was arrested for the child murders. An older woman/prison groupie became obsessed with him and he married her. He's become sort of a quasi-celebrity who hobnobs with some celebrity fangurls of his. I don't know if he actually killed those boys, but he's one of the most disturbing looking and sounding people I've ever seen, right up there with Charles Manson.
What R237 said.
Johnny depp is a POSER!
Who are the goyim that the illuminati are referring to in the Luciferian Agenda at [R223]? Regular folks?
The WM3 are completely guilty and should never have been let out of prison.
Well, it took a while, but I finally saw the big thread of right wing Christian/Jew-hating crazy behind all the conspiracy theories. Doesn't take much to get mentally imbalanced people to hate and spread disinformation, does it? And I love how their "Proof" is a link to another batshit crazy idiot. I have to say, a lot of this is very entertaining, though I do feel a little guilty at laughing at people who are mentally challenged. Even if you're a sock puppet "pretending" to be a true believer, there has to be a whole lot of crazy motivating you. I think if I were more talented (and I'm very limited), I would love to read someone delving into this shadowy world where delusional paranoids try to evaluate real political/social problems through their veil of crazy.
I remember this crazy kind of interaction really flourished when the internet was young, because, let's face it, many on line back then were a little socially challenged and possibly more prone to this kind of thing. The fact that we have "social media" now (don't get me started), I think has put some constraints on the rampant paranoia.
I think R235 is correct; there's something very stunted about Depp.
He still dresses like a hipster and seems to despise the mainstream, but he's getting too old to play rebellious manchildren. Immaturity doesn't keep you from getting old, after all.
R242=disinformation agent trying to divide and conquer using the false right/left paradigm.
Depp, wasn't he Nic Cage's drug dealer and or male whore, and that's why he succeded? Obama held no parties in his honor and I find that whole aspect of the story lacking in veracity.
Christ, it appears that Karl Rove took his political play book directly from the Illuminati manifesto. And now he's a major player in the Romney campaign. Try reading r222 post with Romney/Ryan in mind. now imagine that "goyim" is code for the 47%. Romney is Damian! Lucifer lives!
Depp like Cages extra hairy balls
Please, schizophrenics of DL, take your meds!
Are you totally void of a sense of humor r249?
Thank goodness, I never followed up my real ambition to be a Hollywood star. They are all screwed and fucked up. And the worst thing is that all those elites are THE MOST DELUDED of all. The global power brokers are all in for a very nasty surprise when they die!They should all be forced to watch the horror film 'Dark Corners'. Believe me there is nothing cool or sexy about being stuck in Hell. For Ever. All for believing in a grand illusion. I find that they are they most brainwashed of all.
BTW that stuff about the Jesuits, the guy who apparently exposed that turned out to be a conman and liar, a disinformation agent. Us Christians of all denominations have enough problems with masons and satanists infiltrating our ranks and trying to destroy us from within. Once the Elites really start fighting among themselves, its gonna be time to run for cover! And knowing what I know of the human condition, it's inevitable. All empires that rise, always fall. That is Truth.
[R251] - masonists and satanists infiltrating christian ranks? not sure what your post means?
R252, the best way to control the opposition is to take over. In other words, if you want to destroy Christianity, pretend you're a Christian and rise in the ranks.
The devil masks himself by posing as an angel of light.
Yes, I know the person who mentioned the illuminata really is schizophrenic. She is completely nuts, sad but true.
R251, Jesuits at the top of the order are Satanists.
How mich hair does he really have left?
Thanks for the very interesting thread.
R251, are you speaking of the finally exposed white supremacist, Eric Jon Phelps?
This is all Coast to Coast idiocy. The Bohemian Grove,snuff films what's next aliens cpuppeting Thompson. You queens need to get a grip and watch out for the real enemy.
I doubt it's only "the queens" who are posting the batshit cray-cray, r265. A lot of it sounds like the Xtian fraus "end times" fantasies.
But you know, it's nice to know you're a nasty homophobic cunt.
Helena Bonham Carrter needs to ask Satan for a singing voice that has tone and can carry a pitch.
Depp is best buddies with Damien Echols, he of the dead eyes, pasty skin and raven black hair, and has even accompanied him on his book tour (Echols has a memoir out; one reviewer said his writing resembled the prose in the "Twilight" series). They even got matching tattoos. I find that very freaky. VERY freaky.
R269- did Depp copy Echols or did Echols copy Depp? And weird Depp has no one else to hang with than Echols? And I recall previous discussions on DL, even if Echols is not guilty- he is definitely disturbed?
How do you know he's best buds with Echols?
Yes r154, that actor that was ask, was probably Keanu Reeves. Apparently the shit hit the fan when his people realized he refused to say, he WASN'T gay. He said it would be judging if he answered the question, some odd answer.
Keanu would have been good as a politician, he seldom answers a question with a straight answer...you can always take his answers two ways.
R265, we have smelled the "real enemy" and it is your cunt.
I think we will all be droned to death before we ever know who the true enemy is..I think it is us. We go to movies that are occult we shop at places like Walmart that abuse their empolyees, even thier customers(belive it or no, they use facial id scanners covertly. We buy things made in China with prison labor. It's all comming home. Celebraties like Johnny Depp have been open about being abused in Hollywood. He says he stayed in it not for the fame but to support his family. His mother was working as a waitress at the time he was doing 21 jump street. He wanted out of all of it but I think he was helping to support his siblings and mom still. So go ahaed and judge. We watch people being abused in movies and tv shows and they often really are. Don't watch it, don't buy it and say something. That is what can be done. Johnny Depp is just an actor. He probably has enough money to get out of a messed up buisness and retire and should, even he has admitted that what he does is pretty strange for a grown man and he does'nt look happy. Most of them (celebraties)look pretty unhappy. They know its all crap to sell more crap. There is also more about Hunter Thompson, he really did want to expose the nasties to the full extent but he was afraid and Im sure they had some blackmail on him, he lived in an armed compound horribly terrified he would be murdered by them..no I don't think the Bushes were his friends. When Bush jr. got re-elected he just knew freedom was over. Please read what he really said about the situation after 911. He knew right away what bull shit it was.
R274, whoa-any non conspiracy theorist- can agree with what u r saying. we are puchasing crap made by abused prisoners. Yes I believe that starlets are possibly sexually and physically abused and ending up as nut cases when the fame fizzles and the business executives make MILLIONs.
But not sure what to think about the Hunter Thompson story? And I certainly do not see Depp as a victim?
Not necessarily Depp-related, more Burton related, but after watching "Batman Returns" again recently, I observed it differently.
Hwood always shows women primarily - but also men - with cracked, dual personalities (Selina/Catwoman, which isn't a character trait in the comics, Hannah Montana...for men the new show about the lawyer with a Hyde-like personality); broken people who are made deranged by "the system", yet can't escape it.
There is even a scene in "Batman Returns" with Christopher Walken - as a Trump-like power broker - wearing an "all-seeing eye" medallion fastened over his third eye as part of an oracle costume - informing Bruce Wayne that elected officials don't matter, just the unelected rich behind the scenes! Batman's efforts, then, are rendered ineffectual.
This is supposed to be a children's movie! I'm not being moralistic - Pfeiffer is incredible - but the script is poorly written, lewd, trashy, directionless and warped.
Hwood definitely "entrains" with sick "instructive messaging" wherever it can.
Depp and others should take their money and keep their distance.
Suffering is psychic food for the "controllers" who are now losing their control.
[quote]This is supposed to be a children's movie!
In 1986, "dark hero programming" commenced. It's now in full gear.
I'll never understand people like R279. She wants to end the thread, yet revives it.
"Dark hero programming" bump.
Even by DL standards, this thread is fully of crazy.
Hasn't JD been often spotted trolling gay bars?
He is dating Amber now
Amber is more likely his beard! She digs girls, mostly.
One tabloid crows about how he "built a bar for her" on his island out of his love for her and to resemble the one in RUM DIARY. Another tabloid makes obvious that he built that bar for himself and nobody else as it states that she gave him an ultimatum to quit drinking or the relationship was over. With so many contradictions, why should we believe any of the gossip mill stories?
R285 Are they really? I totally thought this was fake.
Depp once got caught at U.S. customs coming back from Peru with a bag full of dead piranhas, vampire bats and white "vitamin" powder. He even spoke about it in a talk show, shaking and nervously laughing the whole time. Surreal.
Yeah, I have no doubt that Depp is heavily involved in the Satanic occult. Without coming right out and saying, "I'm Satanic", he doesn't even try to hide it.
Hesucked the life out of Vanessa Paradis...
Johnny Deep was handsome once. Now he's just short.
It's sad that no one cares about a once good looking dwarf with gothic tendencies who overacts in movies for a living. Maybe the crow on top of his head in Tonto will carry him away, far, far away.
It's funny how women still find him hot, but will trash a woman the same age who doesn't wear makeup and fashionable clothes. Johnny's fashion sense is both contrived and awful.
A friend of mine in another L.A. cabal told me in the late 90s that River's death was a sacrifice ordered by Anjelica Huston to consolidate her power when she was taking over the world leadership of the group. They had been working on it for some time and Depp was the designated facilitator.
The entire Viper Club set-up was created for such purposes. I can't tell you how many people disappeared from the place over the years. My friend told me they had a kill room in the basement - a chapel, really, with a stone table or platform. Phoenix originally was supposed to be put down as part of a ceremony - they had been cultivating his drug habit - but they got the final dose wrong. He realized something was up and tried to escape, but once on the street one of them delivered a quick injection and they did a fast impromptu sealing to secure the juju.
Huston, who was down in the chapel, was livid and had four of the staff taken out right then and there. If you check the news stories from the week after you'll read about the four "unidentified" bodies found in the desert. Depp was off the hook because she decided it wasn't his fault, but he had a huge pay-back debt he had to work off, which explains the films he's been in ever since. Huston had approval on every one of his projects and she ensured every one was something dank and, ultimately, satanic.
I haven't been posting my experiences for quite a while - I had heard someone was figuring out who I was. But I saw this thread and had to say something. I really like River - he was a sweet kid. Keanu never got over it, you know.
Angelica Huston? Oh, hell no, she's just a big girl with a lot of Daddy issues.
I was in Sweeney Todd AND The Manchurian Candidate. Obviously, I AM IN CHARGE OF ALL THE SATANIC AND MIND CONTROL SHIT IN HOLLYWOOD.
And don't you forget it, bitches.
I was delighted to get an update from Angelica's assistant. Haven't heard from him for a while. Glad to hear you're no longer in danger...
I don't know about the River Phoenix part, but what you said about the Viper Room is correct, R295.
This has been fascinating reading. I don't know how much is true and how much is paranoid nonsense, but it's been super fun to read.
Undoubtedly many people are attracted to the counter culture. Most stop at music and other artistic pursuits, but others go further and dabble in drugs and the occult.
Aliester Crowley and his ilk definitely had/have their followers. A lot of what we call Satanism today stems from that.
Anton LaVey, however, I always thought of as a showman and a huckster. His Church of Satan was kind of a dumbed-down but glamorous version of what Aliester Crowley was doing. It was a direct response to Christianity and almost an inversion of it.
Anyone who likes this thread would like the tinfoil by Dave McGowan. His series on Laurel Canyon makes for great reading, even if he tries too hard to connect every celebrity who ever spent five minutes there into some grand conspiracy. He's turning it into a book.
There's also a series on the Boston Bombing, which I won't read because it's full of horrifying pictures from the attack.
Johnny Depp is an evil entity who enjoys watching others suffer.
Why did Hollywood come out to support the West Memphis Three with celebrities and propaganda 'documentaries'? Because the West Memphis Three are all jews and they want to bias the public right off the bat in case the jewish aspect of the case ever becomes widely known. It's a preemptive measure.
If Anjelica Huston is a witch and has so much power why hasn't she gotten more movie roles?
R308, I think that poster was simply joking by referring to Angelica Huston's role as the head witch in the movie 'The Witches'.
[quote]There is this Satanist on Youtube who said Tim Burton is most definitely a Satanist. Every single one of his movies could've been made by Satan himself.
Anybody have a link to this?
So, basically, Scientology is technically a modern version of the teachings of Aleister Crowley? Since Hubbard was a Crowley follower and actually based Dianetics on Crowley's writings?
Scientologists are basically Satanists?
It took 16 pages of posts for someone to post that?
You people are crazier than Johnny Depp.
it disgusted me that Depp bragged of collecting the artwork of child killer, John Wayne Gacy. it is unforgiveable.
Yeah, that is pretty bad R313. It's facts like that that make me believe the most 'outlandish' accusations against him in these threads. I also think that Depp is of low intelligence, as is Burton. Depp has a void where a personality should be, and Burton can't string a coherent sentence together when he is speaking(edited videos don't count).
"The West Memphis Three are all Jews"
In fucking Arkansas?
 Who didn't?
R295's post is the most interesting (albeit most out there) thing I've read on DL in months. Thanks R295. Please do post more.
"Depp has a void where a personality should be"
Yeah, totally agree, boring as hell the guy, his whole artistic personality shtick was fabricated by his PR team. He is the dumb persons sex symbol, shitty actor too.
R315, google 'Jessie Misskelley', he looks a lot like Corey Feldman.
R303, McGowan's tinfoil is the best, especially the Laurel Canyon writings.
For anyone interested, here's a good interview with McGowan about the Laurel Canyon series. Fascinating stuff and worth a listen.
[quote]If Anjelica Huston is a witch and has so much power why hasn't she gotten more movie roles?
Because she's not the SUPREME!
You looking for me, R323?
Was the guy (Anthony Fox) who was to testify against Depp in court and disappeared before he could, ever found. What happened with the court case regarding the disappearance of Fox and was it settled out of court. Why was there never an investigation?
Why does this thread keep getting bumped? Nobody here cares about this greasy, pretentious heterosexual.
You'll notice that Satanism only tends to show up where CHRISTIANS are. No Satanists around atheist or Buddhist or Unitarian enclaves. I'm just sayin'.
Just read this in its entirety.
Most of you have heard the Charlie Sheen shooting Kelly Preston story, but there is one that would have made the world explode with gossip if this one had ever got out to the public. This couple was everywhere. They were all over every tabloid. The actor, all movies all the time is still A+. Back in the day not so long ago he was a drinking and drugging machine and had a thing for antique weapons. Still does. Brings them to the set all the time. Much more careful with them now though. His girlfriend at the time was A list. She was strictly a booze and cigs kind of person with the sometime coke night if she was really having fun. Well, one night, our actor was showing off a new gun he had purchased at auction and was drinking and playing around and swinging it and shot his girlfriend. Bam right in the ribs. The bullet sliced off a chunk of the side of her ribs right below her bra line. She was not wearing a bra at the time. She was naked. There was blood everywhere. They screamed for several minutes before one of them finally got the idea of trying to towel it off. Yeah, that did not last long. They then used the hotel room drapes. Finally our actor made a call and the hotel sent up a doctor. The girlfriend did not need surgery because it went in and out. It did cause her a whole lot of pain and to help with her pain she started using some stronger drugs which took her ten years to break.
... so who was shot? Winona?
Oh god that story is insane R330. For some reason I totally believe it. I remember there was a story about Johnny Depp and a hotel room that was TRASHED, and I guess this is trashed. Plus that woul explain why Winona is so fucked up. She seemed like such a sweet kid.
Sure, there's the Winona thread too. Still.
But r330 your story isn't even internally consistent:
[quote] The bullet sliced off a chunk of the side of her ribs right below her bra line
[quote] The girlfriend did not need surgery because it went in and out.
Can't be both. But that's the thing with nonsense: it's silly stuff for gullible fantasists.
I read years ago that they trashed a hotel room and she left period blood everywhere - this would make more sense. I also don't believe for a minute that the shooting was an accident between adults playing around; such shootings never are. He shot her, probably in an argument, and there was a cover-up.
I bet Depp's done freakier things than this.
The rumour of Hunter S. Thompson producing snuff porn and Depp directing, writing and staring in a movie about snuff (The Brave) completely creeps me out.
Go to Tribe.net and search Hunter S Thompson Conspiracy. His suicide was a hit.
After reading this I wonder about JD's daughter life threathening illness....Perhaps it was a warning for him to tow the line.
The guy comes across creepy and evil!
His friendships with Marilyn Manson, The Memphis 3, Hunter S Thompson. He played mob bosses a few times.
The disappearance of his former Viper room business partner Anthony Fox just shortly before Fox' lawsuit against Depp.
[quote]I remember there was a story about Johnny Depp and a hotel room that was TRASHED, and I guess this is trashed. Plus that woul explain why Winona is so fucked up. She seemed like such a sweet kid.
I remember it was Depp and Kate Moss that trashed the room----or was that another hotel room? Kate is also a known druggie.
R330 That story sounds like absolute nonsense. She gets shot in the chest, it takes a chunk out of a rib but the hotel doctor manages to sort it out without her even going to hospital? I think a gunshot wound like that would fuck you up and you couldn't hide it that easily.
[quote]I read years ago that they trashed a hotel room and she left period blood everywhere
What was it, some kind of dirty protest? LOL