Hipster's -- Can someone please explin them to me.
I live in LA and they are all over the Silver Lake, Los Feliz and Downtown areas. The caps, square cut jackets, boots or converse sneakers. Is it about a clothing style, lifestyle or what?
These guys seem oddly asexual with a non-chalant and smug persona. Not straight, not gay -- but generally guys eating and drinking at the latest hipster spot joint wit an occasional girl in tow.
Hipsters are all over NY too. The funny thing is that all of the original hipsters from the 1990s are well into their 30s now and look kind of ridiculous, still dressing and acting like that.
You have some explinin to do
Hipster's what? Don't leave us hanging.
OP, ever hear of Wikipedia?
The last hipster craze was the 90s.
Anytime I hear the term "hipster", I hear Elaine Benes screaming at Kramer, "You hipster doofus!"
Those scarves the guys wear even indoors, are dreadful. So pretentious.
Average age of the people in this thread = 73.
OP, if no one can explain apostrophes to you, I doubt they can explain hipsters.
OP--there are only four socially-acceptable stereotypes one is allowed to have. Hipster is for those unable to fit any of those.
You got your nipsters, your shipsters, your pipsters, your quipsters, your flipsters, your tripsters, your sipsters, your whipsters and your tipsters.
Nowadays everyone is a specialist, and none of them is worth a shit. You want to imitate something that was stupid in the original? How about imitating a class act who's polite and witty? Be Nick Charles and you even get to drink while you're at it.
Stop using this word HIPSTER
the word has lost all meaning! OVERUSED and way too imprecise
In brooklyn it refers to someone so extreme in their rejection of conventional norms that they ride a unicycle to work at the People's Center for Tootsie Roll Studies & Food Cooperative
Where i live i hear it used to describe any casually dressed 20 or 30 something with either glasses or facial hair.
Basically it exists as an epithet to hurl at anyone who seems a little bit further from mainstream in their tendencies then yourself.
Thats all it is.
If someone is talking about books or artists or music you've never heard of, no need to feel insecure, or guilty about your preference for soap operas...just write them off as a hipster and walk away, self esteem intact.
if, while walking past starbucks on your daily commute , one amongst thousands of corporate drones, you notice a freelancer happily typing away at his mac in jeans and a t-shirt, no need to question your own life choices, just think of him as a hipster walk away, ego intact.
the thing is, every time you use it to write off the people whose ideas, ambition and creativity give us the culture that you enjoy consuming so much, you really do reveal your insecurity and jealousy.
Some of us have specialized knowledge in cultural pursuits. Same as lawyers have specialized knowledge in law, and Dr.s have specialized knowledge in medicine, "hipsters" as you call them, and as I myself consider them, are people with specialized interest in culture.
The problem is, unlike law and medicine, every damn person considers themselves an authority on music, movies and art and when their sense of their own authority is threatened by the greater knowledge of some scruffy dude who doesnt mear wingtips, it throws people whole system of values into turmoil
hence we have this hipster word to diffuse the situation
but it doesnt
its just stupid
and people should really really let it go
Men shouldn't wear scarves indoors.
That is all.
r10 is insufferable.
I'm in my 20s, and I'm not OP. I'm seeing what this trend has produced with my generation.
At least people are taking an interest in grooming and fashion, while not being over the top flamboyant. It does become pretentious though.
OP can't spell. End of story.
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I really dislike it when they wear the knit caps and Inca hats in all weather.
And no, I'm not an eldergay at my age of 39.
I just think it's an affected style that means the cap wearer is trying too hard unless the weather justifies it.
Therefore my New Years Resolution is to snatch them off the offending heads and toss them on the ground.
I'm a pretty big guy so I don't think anyone will fuck with me in retaliation. I can look mean and menacing if I want to.
OP, see R10, the dictionary definition of a hipster.
And the sock monkey hats. Over age 18, anyone wearing them is a hipster, an idiot, or mentally ill.
R10 would have had it right had he stopped short in his diatribe.
It's so elastic an epithet as to not have much meaning beyond a general accusation of being in some sense "too cool for school" and a hint of inauthenticity and trying too hard.
I don't really know or care what hipsters are. But if they are affected, then what is trimming, shaving, tats, tans, etc?
I put on cloths that I like and feel comfortable in and that I think look good on me. If that means 501 jeans, then it will be those forever... I have never really cared about fashion- although I like good (quality) practical handsome stuff. And I hate to shop.
Charlie, why do you post that kind of reply all the time. If the thread was about guacamole, I'd half expect to see a reply from "charlie" that says "I don't really know or care what the proper recipe for guacamole is. I prefer to eat the foods that I prefer to eat in my diet. I do not blah blah I me my blah blah I blah my blah."
It' all about Charlie.
Charlie -- why do you expect anyone to believe your highly-educated upper-class bullshit stories when you can't even spell "clothes"??
You need to take a remedial reading course.
[quote]I don't really know or care what hipsters are
You've got the annoying part down. All you need is the knit cap.
[quote]if, while walking past starbucks on your daily commute , one amongst thousands of corporate drones
Pot/kettle, R10. We non-hipsters aren't the only judgmental ones.
You sound like a douchebag. Is that better than hipster?
Oh, let little R10 try to formulate her philosophy of life, based as it is on the rough pebbles of a bad education rattling around in her noggin, lubricated by bad coffee and sparked by the dying fumes of youth exhausted in its own waste.
I count 16 English usage, punctuation, grammatical and other language errors in her post.
Can you find more?
White people problems
The OP is a complete moron who keeps starting threads with misplaced apostrophes. As someone upthread said, if this jerk can't understand the use of apostrophes, it won't understand anything else.
Vice magazine is run by a neocon racist.
What do you do, R10? What are you creating that we are all so anxious to consume? How much do you get paid to do it?
sexual eunuchs who have no developed personal style - and who seek out others with the same herd instinct to avoid contemplating their lack of sense of self
To be fair its more of an american problem.Its more Grungers over here i.e the U.K.
Crap. Grunge is a thing again?
yep.Quite the class war between the two groups. Generally Grunger=Middle class/Listens to heavy metal, alternative,wears band t-shirts,converse,skater brands,in a band,was in a band,roadie OR friends with band.Same applies skating.
Stereotype: Constantly stoned and apparently don't wash.
Whereas Chav/Sham = working class/white trash /Listens to Rnb wears tracksuits,sovereign rings, Burberry caps.
Stereotype: Aggressive and supposedly have to have impregnated someone by 14 or had a kid by 14.
Hey fattie at R15, who made you the arbiter of caps? You sound quite rude, and fat.
And I bet R36 is just a barrel of laughs. What a narrow-minded world view for someone 'educated.'
I do a number of things. Most frequently, I DJ, produce and promote dance and performance events in a large city in the NorthEast.
In the two years since I dropped out of the corporate world to do this, I have become extremely successful. Although it isn't NYC or LA i dont consider this to be a minor accomplishment. My events are very well attended, I got a ton of free publicity, and constantly field offers from bars, clubs and restaurants looking to affilliate themselves with what i do.
In addition to this I do regular freelance writing for a local "Time Out" style publication, and do some acting work mostly for fun.
I make enough to live happily. I am not the richest person I know, but some things i do enjoy that even the best employed of my friends do not, are fringe benefits and access to things that can not be purchased with money. Access, perks, connections, invites etc and most importantly I get to work alongside extremely creative and talented people.
I don't know how to monetize this, quite frankly. How much I make? Its not really something I can estimate. I do make a decent living at it, but I could probably be doing better with less hard work in the corporate world. But then I wouldnt experience these fringe benefits and the satisfaction I get from seeing my ideas executed and my creativity embraced by thousands of people.
And when you ask what it is people like me are making and that people like you are consuming?
We provide written, musical, performative and visual content for magazines, film, television, stage, radio, blogs, advertising. We make the music you listen to, we write the books you pretend you read, we design the clothes you wear, the packaging for the food you buy, the commercials that make you decide to try a different brand of cat food. That LOL cat you sent in a mass email was probably made by a hipster. THe outfit on your favorite actress was probably designed by one hipster and chosen by another, while a third and fourth did her makeup and hair.
Basically we are the class of society that makes the present world look sound, smell and taste the way it does. Some of us work in more commercial contexts, a few are lucky enough to breathe the lofty air of high art, but were all in the same general buisiness
We've ALWAYS been around, doing the exact same thing. It's only recently that people started calling us hipsters and resenting us, while denying the truth that we do provide a very real service to your lives. Unless of course you do not ever participate in cultural life. In which case, I condole you.
Sorry to break it to you, R46 but hipsters are not artists. they are largely artist-wannabes. If you think that packaging cat food or spinning someone else's music makes you a creative genius, you're clueless.
i never said it made me a genius, but I don't believe it renders me irrelevant, ridiculous or inherently worthy of disrespect.
r46 has a point as does r10.The term hipster is too broad. Not everyone who is artistic and/or has non-mainstream interests is a pretensions poser.
Am I the only one who scrolls past posts more than a few paragraphs? I mean, who has the time?
Hipsters are just completely demoralized people who don't realize that they are completely demoralized.
R45, it's a bit presumptuous to infer a world view from the post, but presumption is what you're all about, isn't it, what with your "Democratic English" idiocy.
Look in the mirror and see what people are laughing at. Oh, you're a little hipster, aren't you, single quotes and all?
r52 the really ironic thing is how completely at home you would be prancing down Bedford Street in Williamsburg, channeling the sartorial and linguistic peculiarities of a 1930's character actor. Go open up a haberdashery and Barber shop in the Lower East Side, You could make a boatload of cash selling old tyme grooming supplies to the unshaven masses.
Is this one of the defining aspects of being a hipster: being a transplant to the big city to get away from the 'narrow minded' home town? Then making your identity all about the new city to the annoyance of the locals?
Was R46's post an attempt at M's cerulean speech from The Devil Wears Prada?
Are hipsters those geeks from scifi conventions?
There's a town I know where the hipsters go called Bedrock, twist, twist....
When you get an itch and you do the twitch in Bedrock, twitch, twitch
"Here we go again! Someone claiming we are all delusional; that there is no such thing as hipsters. That among all the normal looking, non-attention seeking, unpretentious people of Brooklyn, there are no costume/uniform wearing, smug, pseudo-intellectual, kazoo-voiced try-hards."
OP, come over to South Pasadena and witness the WORST type of "hipster."
HIPSTER PARENTS!!!! THE WORST EVER AND THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!!
Hipsters 35 years and older are sad and pathetic.
They look dumb.
The Dandy Warhols were the first hipsters.
Southern hipsters are just too funny for words. They dress no differently than how some people did during the grunge fad. But, when provoked, their Red State bullcrap comes to the surface.
It is funny to see a Southern hipster try to play the part of a hipster (if you will) at a bar but then speak nicely of Romney after a few drinks.
At least there is no vocal fry in the South since that is a linguistic improbability. So there is that, I guess.
[quote]Southern hipsters are just too funny for words. They dress no differently than how some people did during the grunge fad.
The ones in New Orleans seem to have taken their fashion cues from 1920s movie newsboys, Caleb Carr novels, or whatever they've been able to learn about chimney sweeps.