- I always watched with my dad. Since he's gone it makes me too sad to watch. Still the old TZ's are some of the best TV ever written with great acting. Well worth watching and if you're young and have never seen really good writing and acting on TV it's must see.
- I am.
- I am but I wish they would show the rarer episodes. Sometimes they do after midnight. I hope that's the case this year so I can record them.
- "Number Twelve Looks Just Like You" with Ur-supermodel Suzy Parker is starting. In it a plain girl with frau potential gets transformed into a beautiful woman in the future of, let's say, the year 2000. It's the DL dream and the ultimate gay Twilight Zone episode. Agree or disagree?
- What network is this on?
- It seems like they stick to the episodes from 1959-1963. I loved the first season of TZ - a lot of classics were a part of it.
- Nancy Malone was just on in the "Stopover In a Quiet Town" episode, and it's not one of my favorites, but WOW, she was a beautiful woman in her day.
- Sorry, bad Nancy Malone link above, try this one.
(If you don't know, she wound up head of 20th Century Fox television and still directs today)
- [quote]"Stopover In a Quiet Town"
I think this one is pretty creepy actually.
- A Penny for Your Thoughts starring Darren Stevens from Bewitched!
- Yup, we're watching.
- No, I'm not watching. I don't watch Fox News.
- No "It's a cookbook!" yet. Pity. Perhaps later today.
- r15, of *course* they're going to do that one. When I don't know but I'm certain that episode won't be left out.
It's amazing the quality, of that series. I got hooked in the late 70's and never lost my infatuation. Harkens back to a time when things were much more hopeful; the space race, changes in civil rights, questioning of current mores. Things seemed so much more "revolutionary". Even though it was the early 60's. A tragic waste that Searling died so young.
The one with Roddy Mcdowell is on right now!!
- Roddy was quite cute when he was young and twinkish, R16. Yummy! I realize they'll show "To Serve Man", but as I wrote earlier I wish they'd show more of the rare ones. So far, it doesn't seem like they will. I just like using the DL-quoted "It's a cookbook!"
"But... it's not fair! I had all the time in the world now!"
- The correct pronunciation of "robot" in the Twilight Zone is "ro-but" as Dr. Zoidberg correctly says on Futurama.
- I love Walking Distance with Gig Young - even the score is nice.
- [quote]I wish they'd show more of the rare ones. So far, it doesn't seem like they will.
Everyone relax. It's on all day tomorrow, and I'm sure they'll show all the really popular ones then.
- SyFy-West is showing it Sunday night at 10:30 Pacific, R15. I think that means it will be on at 10:30 in the Eastern zone also, but I might have that wrong. I checked the whole schedule in advance to see what episodes I might want to not miss.
It looks like it's all the usual suspects this marathon. Even in the late night/early morning hours, they are only running the most familiar shows this time. Not that I'm complaining because I love them all, but I agree that it is nice when they throw in some of the lesser seen episodes sometimes.
- "I'm sure they'll show all the really popular ones then."
Reading comprehension, my dear boy. While I enjoy many of the popular ones, I want them to show some of the less popular ones. Many of the less popular ones are underrated.
- I never see the one with Carol Burnett aired.
- If I recall, R24, they did show that one in the wee hours last year.
- The Hitchhiker with Inger Stevens is coming on now!
I've never believed the story about how she committed suicide. I think Burt Reynolds knows the truth.
- Going my way?
- From last year's thread:
1. What type of Twilight Zone episodes do you prefer (Western, space/aliens, post-Second World War moral fables, time travel to the past, the humorous ones, post- or near-apocalyptic, etc.), and why? These may not be the best categories, so I just use them as examples.
2. Why do some of the episodes not seem dated? Is it the crisp writing and acting or their universal themes or something else? I compare this series to the later The Outer Limits, and with a couple of exceptions, the latter seems very much a product of its time. In contrast, many Twilight Zone episodes, with the exception of special effects and technology, could almost be set today. Why the difference?
- "Stopover In a Quiet Town"
Was shamelessly ripped off by Marvel Comics in 1980, in an issue of "The Micronauts".
- I grew up watching these shows as a kid and they scared me to death in the 1960s. I am amazed at how well the stories held up all these years.
- [quote]Why do some of the episodes not seem dated? Is it the crisp writing and acting or their universal themes or something else?
Has to be a combination of all three. All I know is that I can watch my favorite TZ's over and over and never get bored or tired of them.
- [quote]many Twilight Zone episodes, with the exception of special effects and technology, could almost be set today. Why the difference?
I think you partially answered your own question. The originals were made on a shoestring and they were made in B&W, mostly on sound stages and in the backlot. 80% of the effort went into good scripts and good acting.
Today (or even a few years after they were made) the ratio would have been reversed, and 80% would have gone into whizbang special effects and location shooting.
I think that's true for most shows. When everyone switched to color the quality of the scripts and acting suffered, and the shows became all about the visuals. You can see it most clearly in the decline of the TV Westerns.
- The favorite episodes are coming up. Below is the schedule from SyFy for the next few hours (too bad they got some of the titles slightly wrong for episodes earlier today. Oh, dear!). DL favorite "Talky Tina" is on at 8:00 p.m. I've put catchphrases or summaries next to them for those who may not know the episode titles.
The Invaders - DL fave Agnes Moorhead silently fighting off tiny aliens
The Bewitchin' Pool - Children escape divorcing parents by diving into pool at the other end of which is a benevolent paradise for kids
The Midnight Sun - The world is getting hotter for a young and old lady, or is it?
The Masks - Dying old man makes ungrateful relatives wear masks to reveal their true selves.
The Odyssey Of Flight 33 - Plane tries to land at Idlewild (now JFK) without much success
Living Doll - Talky Tina and Telly Savalas!
The Obsolete Man - Burgess Meredith (without broken glasses) and Fritz Weaver in a totalitarian future where Burgess, his occupation and reading have become obsolete. Weaver would later do an homage to this episode on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine playing a Cardassian (not Kardashian).
Eye Of The Beholder - Pig faces are beautiful.
Time Enough At Last - That's not fair! Burgess Meredith with glasses and without bitchy wife or asshole boss.
A Stop At Willoughby - Less hellish than an actual Metro-North commute.
The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street - Blackouts, Claude Akins (pre-Sensodyne) and Aliens prepping.
To Serve Man - It's a cookbook!
Will The Real Martian Please Stand Up - Which of the patrons of a roadside diner is an alien?
Nightmare At 20,000 Feet - William Shatner, post-nervous breakdown, sees a gremlin on an airplane wing and goes where Twilight Zone will boldly go again. Both he and John Lithgow, who reprised the role in the Twilight Zone movie, spoofed it on Third Rock from the Sun, which is similar in title to a Twilight Zone episode, Third From the Sun.
- Thanks R33, DirecTV was posting the title of the episodes on their schedule but stopped for some reason.
- Same with Time Warner, R34. In the past, they listed the episodes in their on screen guide. Not this go round for some reason.
- Dish Network stopped posting the titles and summaries, too. Any chance The Howling Man, Spur of the Moment, or Queen of the Nile will be shown again? Those were always my favorites.
- They used to do a Honeymooners marathon on New Year's Eve on NY Channel 11. I miss it.
- R36, Howling Man is on at 6:30 p.m. Eastern, in about 20 minutes. I must have skipped that one. The other two won't be repeated.
- Isn't the Howling Man coming up next?
I love Queen of the Nile too and missed it yesterday.
The Twilight Zone usually airs on Saturday and Sunday @ 2-3 am Pacific time.
- [quote]I always watched with my dad. Since he's gone it makes me too sad to watch.
I'm in the same boat. He was the only person I knew who loved The Twilight Zone and we would watch it together every New Year's Day. Mostly I'm ok watching alone, but it does make me emotional during certain episodes that we both particularly liked. I got kind of teary during the one about the masks.
- R3 I am sorry but I have to dis agree. The ultimate Gay Twilight episode is the one with the woman in the hospital, covered in bandages, trying not to be "different"from the rest of her society. Either by accident on purpose thy use so many "Gay codes" and terms of the day that I could not help but notice them.That and it's message of pure tolerance to the point of acceptance make ti one of my favorites.
- Thanks for the schedule, R33.
But, it appears that Syfy is not following it.
- In The Masks, the son's ugly face has been stuck in my head for years, but I had no idea that the recently deceased Alan Sues was the actor.
Anyone else spend the day half watching the episode and half wandering around IMDB reading about the actors?
- Thanks, R42. It appears they've been off by half an hour for the last hour or so. I wonder whether they changed their online schedule to reflect that? Willoughby is showing right now.
As I mentioned earlier, I was slightly miffed that they even got the titles of some of the episodes wrong, as if they don't have any respect for what they're showing, which they probably don't. Of course, this is a channel that changed their name to SyFy to get away from being associated solely with science fiction and which shows films about deadly amoebas and the such starring Judd Nelson.
- It looks to me like they've been sticking to the posted schedule. My cable provider (Uverse) has also been accurate which I'm grateful for since some others have posted that theirs are wrong or incomplete.
- "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street". Still holds true today only now it would probably be called "The Muslims Are Due..."
- It's a cookbook! It's a cookbook!
- I know it's not the same, but if anyone still has Netflix - there are 180 eps of the original TZ streaming.
- They're playing the real classics tonight.
- Dears Netflix has the entire series on streaming...
- I missed most of them. Did they show the ones with Anne Francis and Inger Stevens?
- They sure did R51. Classics both!
- Some of the later ones really aren't that hot. Also they seem to avoid showing the episodes that were done on tape.
"It's a Good Life" is the best episode. Also the scariest. Whenever I think of the concept of an all-powerful, all-seeing God who demands to be worshiped, that's what I think of (I'm a nontheist myself.)
- [quote]Anyone else spend the day half watching the episode and half wandering around IMDB reading about the actors?
I find myself doing that with the Alfred Hitchcock Presents and The Alfred Hitchcock Hour episodes shown nightly on AntennaTV and Encores Suspense.
- Bump for an update...
There will be a marathon for Independence Day tomorrow. It's a shorter one that normal, probably because the holiday falls in the middle of a week.
Looks like it starts at 8 a.m. and runs until 4 a.m. Thursday morning.
- As usual with the holiday marathons, looks likee they aren't scheduling any of the less popular episodes. Since this is one is only scheduled for a day, some of the shows you'd be expecting to see aren't making the cut.
Oh well, there is always Labor Day.
- Queen of the Nile is classic:
"I'm not her mother . . . I'm her daughter!"
- I've already got all my favorites marked.
- Trivia: The mother in "Queen of the Nile" is Celia Lovsky who was Peter Lorre's ex-wife. She later played the Vulcan matriarch T'Pau in Star Trek.
- [quote]Oh well, there is always Labor Day.
More like New Year's Day for the next TZ marathon, R56, since SyFy only seems to run it on New Year's and July 4th.
- Going my way?
- SyFy also does mini TZ marathons every few weeks or so.
- "This is the other place."
- Yes R62. One of the days midweek they run episodes from the start of their broadcast day until primetime. SyFy often runs marathons of lots of different shows during daytime hours on weekdays. I like to catch the V marathons.
And it's during those that we are more likely to see some of the less well known episodes that they don't schedule during these holiday marathons.
Also several days a week they start off their broadcast day (after the slate of overnight paid programming) with an episode or two. I'm sure most readers here already know all of that, but it never hurts to point it out for those that might not check the SyFy channel schedule that often.
- R64, I really love when I run into a TZ mini-marathon (especially one featuring the rarely shown episodes). This is one of those shows that I just find comforting to watch, even with its sometimes creepy themes.
- I'm with you on that R62. Isn't it odd that a show designed to twist our minds actually leaves us feeling like we've been given a warm embrace?
And if you are like me, none of the remade/updated versions of the program have the same impact. I've never cared for anything but the original series. It's kind of a shame that they can't figure out a way to make new shows that capture that same feeling.
I need a cup of instant smile. (I'm on the West Coast, so just watching the No. 12 Looks Just Like You episode now).
- R64/Vincent, the 80's version of TZ was atrocious - I did see one episode that I think was done by Spielberg that was better than the rest of the bunch, but overall it was quite inferior. I don't think anyone could recreate this classic show effectively or convincingly because the writing by Rod Serling and others on the original was first rate and the feel of the show can't really be reproduced. The 80's version was just so stale and sterile and lacked the genuinely creepy factor. It was like any other show on TV, whereas original TZ was something truly unique and timeless.
- It's funny that as often as I've seen some of these episodes, sometimes I forget what the twist is on a couple.
"Where is Everybody" is a good example. It's usually not until the reveal where I remember what the deal is with his situation. Then I immediately curse myself for knowing it, but not being able to remember when I want to.
- "80's version of TZ was atrocious"
Of course it was. "Twilight Zone" was unique; no remake could ever hope to capture how special that show was. And a "Twilight Zone" without Rod Serling? He WAS that show.
And of course that "Twilight Zone" movie was a travesty that killed three people.
Don't mess with the "Twilight Zone." Nothing good EVER came of attempts to do that.
- They just showed "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street" and whose voice do I recognize? The little queen who played young Patrick Dennis in AUNTIE MAME in his only other imdb listed role.
- I fell in love with Lois Nettleton when I was a tiny little lesbian child, and had a thing for her all my life. Watching The Midnight Sun tonight, I was so wishing I could lick every bit of sweat from her. She was still gorgeous on the episode of The Golden Girls.
Aside from my lust, Twilight Zone was one of the best TV shows ever. I've been watching Night Gallery on Hulu lately, and that's the only thing that comes close to the remarkable acting and writing of TZ. I miss quality television.
So sick of the redneck rage on every bloody channel.
- R71, I second your lesbian Lois love. Always found her hot and that slip ep is still stirring. Excellent actress, too.
Isn't that Lee Patrick as her elderly neighbor?
- I just checked the SyFy schedule to see if they were doing the usual end of year marathon.
They are. The entire schedule for New Year's Eve and New Year's Day is all classic TZ.
- Simply the most intelligent, thought-provoking show in TV history, no contest. I like the really dark ones that chill me to the bone: The Hitch Hiker, Judgment Night, The Grave, The Jungle to name a few.
Rod Serling's opening/closing narration was pure, elegant poetry to listen to in every ep. The man really knew how to get acrobatic with the language.
- I love Hitch Hicker, Judgment and The Jungle too. There are so many episodes that I watch over and over - Mirror Image, Walking Distance, And When The Sky Was Opened, The Parallel, Living Doll, Third from the Sun, Ring A Ding Girl, Death's Head Revisited, Night Call, The 7th Is Made Up of Phantoms, Stopover in a Quiet Town, The Fear, The Odyssey of Flight 33, The Dummy, Perchance to Dream, The 16 mm Shrine, Queen of the Nile, In His Image, To Serve Man, The Last Flight, It's a Good Life, Elegy.
And yes, Rod Serling was awesome.
Can't wait for the TZ marathon!
- He was a bad man so I turned him into a jack-in-the-box
- Ilse, Ilse
- Ah, yes, I forgot to mention "And When the Sky Was Opened." That was a seriously creepy one.
- One of the best acting performances and best characters in the entire TZ was Robert Keith as the snarky old grandfather in "The Masks." I loved that old dude!
- "A Thing About Machines" about a man who believes all the electronics in his home are turning on him is another good one.
- With the episode "I Shot an Arrow Into the Air," you can tell its plot was a creative precursor to "Planet of the Apes," which Serling also wrote.
- When all is said and done it's just an obvious fact that Rod Serling was the most visionary genius in the history of the TV medium. Hands down. Period. No contest. Nowadays, there is nobody on TV (in any country) whose I.Q. and fancy, elegant verbosity could even begin to touch Serling's.
- I totally agree R83. TZ episodes can be watched over and over and they still are compelling and never stale, a tribute to his brilliance.
- [quote]The Odyssey Of Flight 33 - Plane tries to land at Idlewild (now JFK) without much success
A family favorite as we are all pilots and can't get enough of that huge cockpit with numerous crew.
- One of the things that makes TZ so timeless and eternal and aging so well is that tonally, it expresses and explores various human values and moral dilemmas that apply to any human time period and setting. It's as relevant today as it was 50 years ago. And the TZ will still be relevant centuries from now, I guarantee it.
P.S. The B&W makes TZ all the better. It gave the show a spookier, colder, creepier ambiance than a color show could ever manage.
- Well said R86.
- I've even mostly memorized one of Serling's greatest narrations from the episode "He's Alive" (the one where Hitler himself becomes magically resurrected): "Where will he go next, this phantom from another time, this ghost of a resurrected nightmare? Chicago, Syracuse, Vincennes, Indiana, Long Beach? Remember that. Remember that when he visits your town. Remember that when you hear his voice speaking through others. Remember that when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any unreasoning hatred and bigotry against any group of people. Remember that, he's alive because as long as these evils exist, we KEEP him alive."
That Rod Serling narration in that "Hitler-resurrection" episode has chilled me for years. Honestly, I've never heard such a beautifully haunting speech on TV.
- Bumped, in anticipation of tomorrow's new year's marathon.
- Thanks R89.
- [quote]"Number Twelve Looks Just Like You" with Ur-supermodel Suzy Parker is starting.
I had no idea Suzy Parker was in an episode of TZ.
She was married (until death) to Bradford Dillman who starred in my favorite Lovecraft influenced Night Gallery episode: Pickman's Model.
- bump. It's started.
- Watching a really creepy, ghostly one right now: "Death's-Head Revisited." Definitely one of those TZs that packs a dark punch.
- Now watching another dark one: "What You Need." The TZ is on a chilling roll right now.
- That's one of my favorites R93, very unnerving.
- Rod Serling had a sexiness about him. It was probably the sharp suits and the smoking.
- Last night on MeTV they showed a TZ I'd never seen before... it looked like a live play shot on early videotape.
At first I thought that maybe the master had been lost and all they had was a kinescope... but no. The bumpers were the traditional filmed ones but the story itself seemed to have been shot on video with multiple cameras and edited in the control booth as they went along.
I was curious enough to look it up, and it turns out TZ did six episodes on videotape as an experiment in order to save money. Has anyone else seen these?
- "Eye Of The Beholder" is beginning aka pig faces are beautiful!
- "The Invaders" starting now - DL fave Agnes Moorhead silently fighting off tiny aliens
- The one about the diner and the mysterious bus passenger was pretty creepy too.
- Going my way?
- It's a cookbook!
- I am! William Shatner is freaking out on the plane.
- "Living Doll" - Talky Tina and Telly Savalas!
- R105 - and some of Telly's hair.
- "The Masks" - Dying old man makes ungrateful relatives wear masks to reveal their true selves.
- How much has been cut for the extra commercials, anyone know?
- They've saved all the classics for tonight.
- "I Sing the Body Electric"
- Never really much a fan of "I Sing the Body Electric."
The next one, where the Sun is moving towards the Earth, is a great episode! Really great twsit of an ending. M. Night Ramalamadingdong wishes he could come up with something that clever.
- "The Midnight Sun" - The world is getting hotter for a young and old lady, or is it?
- Anyone got a light?
- I've watched these for years, and I would have sworn that I had seen all of them at one time or another, but this morning I've watched two episodes I've never seen before.
- I just woke up, so I'm wondering if they showed "Judgment Night" or "When the Sky was Opened" yet? Those are the two darkest, coldest, scariest TZ's I've seen.
- Right now they're showing that really trippy episode with that unmanned ghost DC3 airplane.
- R115, they showed "When the Sky was Opened" last night and they may have shown "Judgment Night" already.
- Why am I sitting here watching them filled with annoying commercials when any day of the year I could stream them on Netflix?
- Wow, the multiple twist-ending mind fuck in that ghost-plane episode completely WIPES THE FLOOR with anything M. Night Shyamalan ever did.
- Room for one more, honey.
- YES!!! "When the Sky was Opened" is now playing. . . . .to fuck me up in a good way.
- Rod Taylor looks good. And the guy in the hospital bed is fine too - Jim Hutton, Timothy Hutton's father.
- I've always thought that Jim Hutton guy looked familiar.
Now - major change of gears - they're showing the TZ's gentler, heartwarming episode, "The Hunt." I guess it helps the viewer cool down after such a disturbing episode like WTSWO.
- A young hunky William Shatner. And a fortune telling machine.
- "My name is Talking Tina, and I think I might hate you."
- Roddy McDowall was cute. I could see hooking up with him.
This episode feels like a lot was cut out though. Was it originally one of the hour long ones?
- Glad to see some love for "And When The Sky Was Opened". It doesn't get a lot of attention, but it's truly one of the creepiest episodes ever of TZ and one of my favorites. And Rod Taylor was a hottie.
- I bet a lot of us have seen TZ for so many years that we know the episode within seconds of the opening shot.
They just ran the episode about the insane astronaut who declares himself a god on the planet of tiny people. In fact, it seems as if in many of the TZ space stories there's always at least one nutty or borderline hysterical crew member. In real life, astronauts are cool, calm, and a little boring.
If TZ had imagined the moon landing, Neil Armstrong, Collins, and Aldrin would have been duking it out over who got to be the first man on the moon.
Armstrong wins and then gets eaten by a moon shark.
- Awesome, they're showing "Third From the Sun." With that creepy gov't. agent the nerve-racking suspense was jacked up off the dial! And it has a twist ending that proves yet again that Shyamalan isn't even fit to carry Serling's jock strap.
- In the epsisode Third from the Sun, is the daughter a person who went on to play a character on General Hospital?
- She's Dr. Lesley Webber!
- Next stop Willoughby!
- God, I'm a nervous wreck just from that one scene where the sinister guy came to their house and starts looking at that paper on the table and making little innuendos about what they're up to. Deliberately mind-fucking the family.
- Another great episode R133 and it's one I only recently started watching.
- The dolls. The dolls in the donation bin. That was fucking awesome!
- I think "Eye of the Beholder" is about the only thing other than "Hillbillies " I can recall Donna Douglas doing. And isn't her voice dubbed in that? Also, the guy at the end from the "ugly" colony is very hot even by our current tough standards. Had to add that just in deference to our DL core focus.
- One thing you notice very quickly from these TZ marathons: Rod Serling had many, many times the vocabulary & I.Q. of M. Night Shyamalan. So Serling could write in such soaring, intricate verbal acrobatics, in ways that Shyamalan is completely incapable of.
- Now good old Shatner and the fortune-telling machine! The toothy, sneering look on that fortune-machine's face is what I found creepy. For some reason that machine reminds of of that grinning clown doll in the movie Poltergeist.
- "I think "Eye of the Beholder" is about the only thing other than "Hillbillies " I can recall Donna Douglas doing. And isn't her voice dubbed in that?"
The woman in the bandages is not Donna Douglas. That was Maxine Stuart. Douglas was only the "unwrapped" Janet Tyler. They thought they'd have to dub Douglas's voice after the unveiling, but she did such a good version of Maxine Stuart's voice that they didn't need to do it. As for Douglas, you can see her in other things. She did an episode of "Night Gallery." She was in a movie with Elvis Presley called "Frankie and Johnny." And she had a cameo role in the film version of the musical "L'il Abner" as (what else?) a beautiful girl.
- "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street" - Blackouts, Claude Akins (pre-Sensodyne) and Aliens prepping
- I always loved the episode "The Hitchhiker." The guy who played him was so perfect for the role! But I remember the ending differently. The one I saw during the marathon shows Nan getting back into the car, adjusting the mirror, and seeing the hitchhiker sitting in the back seat. He calmly says "I believe you're going my way." The camera then shows Nan's impassive face and then moves upward towards the night sky. But I remembered it like this: the camera moves overhead and show's Nan's car slowly pulling away, getting back on the road and disappearing into the darkness towards...? I don't know why I always remembered it like that. I like my ending better.
- Maybe there's an alternate ending to the Hitchhiker that's as you describe R141, but I've never seen anything other than the one they showed last night.
- "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street" is probably the most interesting, almost medically clinical study of group paranoia I think I've seen on TV, R140.
- I hate the way Number 12 Looks Just Like You turns out.
I need me a big glass of Instant Smile after I watch it.
- Yes, R141, "The Hitch Hiker" is one of those really dark, cold-blooded episodes that seriously spooked me. In spite of Inger Stevens (the only truly bad acting I've ever seen on TZ), the story was so creepy it still worked.
- Now that you mention that r141, that sounds familiar to me too. I don't remember him saying anything to her, but it seems like I remember seeing her adjust the rearview mirror, seeing him sitting in the backseat and just reacting like it was expected - no scream or quick-around or anything.
I tried to find a youtube link of the episode, but couldn't. But the wiki summary of the plot indicates that you are completely correct r141. Good recall!
- Yes, you remember correctly R146. It's also (!!! MAJOR SPOILER ALERT!!!!) the episode where M. Night Shyamalan probably ripped off the idea of a dead person who doesn't know they're dead.
But they already showed that creepy episode last night, I remember watching it.
- That episode "Little Girl Lost" always reminds me of Poltergeist.
- I always liked the one where Donna Douglas (Elly May Clampett) was undergoing plastic surgury because she was considered uglyin the world in which she lived.
I love the episode where the elderly couple could trade in their bodies for young healthy ones but only had enough money for one transformation.
R15, that's the one that stands out in my memory, too. Kind of hamfisted script, totally un-subtle.
- I wonder how many cigarettes Serling went through in doing the introductions.
- I'm still waiting for "The Grave." The little ghost-story, puzzler-gem episode that stars Lee Marvin as his usual badass, tough guy self.
- I think they showed that one R153.
- The Grave was on many hours ago R153. I saw it this morning.
The wind was still blowing from the South.
- Ah, now they're playing another gem I almost forgot: the camera that takes pictures of the future. It has a very multi-faceted twist endimg, if I remember correctly.
- Did they show "One For The Angels" with Ed Wynn and Murray Hamilton as Death? Although Robert Redford made for a much cuter Death. "You see. No shock. No engulfment. No tearing asunder. What you feared would come like an explosion is like a whisper."
- So, the episode that's on now on the East coast, "The Bewitchin' Pool". . .does it seem like all of that little girl's dialogue is badly overdubbed? Or is that little girl a young Andie McDowell?
- Rod Serling was only fifty years old when he died. No doubt his prodigious consumption of cigarettes hastened his demise. Fuck cigs!
- Isn't it "Scout" from To Kill A Mockingbird? She grew up a bit.
- You are right, r158, the little girls voice was dubbed according to the wiki page.
Also of interest is The Bewitchin Pool was the last episode aired in the last season of the original TZ.
- Scout sounds like Rocky the Squirrel. I keep waiting for Bullwinkle to show up.
- I remember Scout's voice in that episode sounding very bizarre and elderly.
- Scout was clearly dubbed by an adult in the outdoor scenes -- but her mother seemed to have dubbed her own lines as well.
- "The Dummy" is on now, another eerie one.
- Scout's voice doesn't matter that much because it's one of the inferior, best-forgotten episodes anyways; it was too sappy and sloppily acted. I always prefer the leaner, meaner TZ episodes that pack a really twisted mental punch.
- Jack Klugman in "A Game of Pool."
- Funny r162, I was thinking earlier that the main character in the "A Kind of Stopwatch" (with Carolyn Abbleby in a supporting role) episode sounded just like Mr. Peabody. I even had to look it up.
- They're showing this episode even as I type this. And I have to day, that little girl's voice is Loathsome with a capital L.
- My favorite episode is on now, "I am the Night---Color Me Black."
- The original "Kick the Can" old folks' episode they're showing now is so much more thoughtfully done than Spielberg's obnoxious, in-your-face schmaltz-fest in "Twilight Zone: The Movie."
- Bump (to get this ahead of all those resurrected "cunt" threads).
- This Cunt is watching!
- Just saw "The Purple Testament" for the first time. That was one gut-wrenchingly scary episode, it leaves one with a feeling of haunted doom.
- What amazes me about all the Twilight Zone episodes is that they stand up to the test of time and the themes are still very relevant. This shows the genius of Sterling and the writers of this series.
- Forgot to mention, Fritz Weaver's acting in "The Obsolete Man" was fiery, thunderous. It sure looked like he was having fun playing that dictator.
- If I taught a writing class, I think I would make the students try to write a spec script for Twilight Zone. After 130+ episodes, I think it would be almost impossible to come up with a fresh idea.
- "So, the episode that's on now on the East coast, "The Bewitchin' Pool". . .does it seem like all of that little girl's dialogue is badly overdubbed? Or is that little girl a young Andie McDowell?"
I couldn't watch that episode. So many things about it sucked.
Mary Badham's voice was indeed dubbed. Her speech was deemed unintelligible due to her Southern accent or something, so her voice was replaced with that of June Foray. June Foray was also the voice of Rocky the Flying Squirrel, which is why Badham sounds so much like him.
In "To Kill a Mockingbird" she was Jean Louise aka "Scout"; in "The Bewitchin' Pool" she's Jean Louise aka "Sport." How original and clever!
The story was treacly and sappy and heavy-handed. This was not on of the best TZ episodes.
Earl Hamner Jr., the creator of the Waltons, wrote it. He was displeased with it; he didn't like the performance of the actress who played "Aunt T." He thought she was too cutesy. But the episode as a whole was definitely below par.
- R177, Fritz Weaver guest starred on an episode of Star Trek Deep Space Nine many years later that paid tribute to "The Obsolete Man". He played a lawyer in Cardassia, a militaristic totalitarian society, whose job it is not defend his clients but to guide them through the trial process where the verdict is already a given. He plays a character much like his chancellor/judge character on TZ except that he is hapless. He's equally subservient to the state however until the end. The sets for the Star Trek episode were modelled on those for "The Obsolete Man".
- Fritz Weaver played a Star Trek Cardassian, R180? Now I've really got to see that episode. The Cardassians were always one of my favorite, scenery-chewing Star Trek races so I can imagine Weaver must have gone wild playing one of them.
- R181, his performance was actually rather restrained as his character was supposed to be meek and compliant, subservient to the state. Like his character on TZ, he describes the benefits to the public of witnessing "justice" carried out and the wisdom of the state. His anticipated end is much the same on Star Trek as in TX: he is now obsolete.
- [quote]Earl Hamner Jr., the creator of the Waltons, wrote it. He was displeased with it; he didn't like the performance of the actress who played "Aunt T." He thought she was too cutesy. But the episode as a whole was definitely below par.
It could have been saved if the children were seen living it up with Aunt Tee... and at the very end, the parents found their bodies in the pool and the viewer discovered they were dead. Not that it would have happened in early 1960s TV...
- For some reason I always get the feeling that maybe those kids are in real trouble with "Aunt T," and maybe they would be better off back with the parents. Just something about her gives me the creeps.
- R181, the Fritz Weaver Star Trek episode is "Tribunal".
- Good, I'll keep an eye out for it.
- Does anyone know where I can buy a gold thimble? Hello...
- Which one is it, r188?
I keep seeing the Silence of the Lambs flashback with the kid that played Clarice Starling as a little girl when she's sneaking up on her dad and says "Daaddy" with that accent.
- r188, it is a little girl... crying for her father from far away...
- Guess this TZ quote: "I am no longer sowing.......NOW I'M GOING TO REAP!!!!"
- Guess this TZ quote: "Gaaaah! GAAAAAH!!!!" *CHOP CHOP*
- Those clues aren't enough for me to ID the episodes.
Remember several years ago SyFy Channel (before that name change) had a marathon where they let fans vote for all-time favorite episodes? Then they played them in a countdown order. It was kind of interesting to see what shows were most appreciated by fans.
And those episodes always show up during the marathons. There are a handful of shows that don't get scheduled as much and never seem to make the marathons.
This week I've been recording the shows that SyFy shows at end of night and beginning of their broadcast day. There have been some that aren't in regular marathon rotation.
Nervous Man in a Four-Dollar Room
The Man in the Bottle
Those are some that have been on this week.
- My quote is from "Uncle Simon," which Constance Ford screamed in Simon's face as he was dying. I always liked the jolting manner in which she delivered that line.
- I was trying to figure that out R194 because I knew I saw the episode it came from, but I just couldn't remember.
- The episodes are so brilliantly conceived that I find myself rivited. And there are moments when I am about to break out in a cold sweat. Unbelievable. Much more engaging than present day offerings of the same genre. 10+ from me.
- I've seen many of the episodes several times and they never seem stale or boring. I can watch them over and over and still find them fascinating. I'm glad TZ is a staple on Syfy - I notice it airs throughout the week and weekends now in the wee hours mostly, but I try to catch them when I can.
- In my near 40 years of watching television I simply can't think of a show with more extravagant, passionate acting and flowery, complex dialogue than the Zone. No matter how wild/crazy the story idea, the actors and their interactions with each other really, really sold it to the viewers. No matter how bizarre the story idea was.
By today's comparison, every one of M. Night Shyamalan's movies have been a thieving con of a mishmash of TZ episodes. But Shyamalan doesn't have a fraction of the vocabulary and verbose, poetic stylings of Rod Serling, so every last one of this thief's movies have been a dumbed-down, cheap copy of the TZ. Where everybody speaks to each other in whispers, for some weird reason. That's why I detest Shyamalan as much as I do. He is literally Serling's dumbed-down grave robber.
- It's a true classic.
- [quote] Where everybody speaks to each other in whispers,
Probably to give the impression that something profound is happening. Apparently they can't just do it by writing a good script.
- M. Night Shyamalan = wog
- Another marathon on Thursday.
It will be a short one this time. Starts Thursday morning (whenever their early a.m. block of infomercials ends) and only runs until the start of the infomercials on Friday morning.
- My favorite episode of all time is "Will the real Martian stand up"
- It has begun.
The one where the girl falls through the wall into another dimension.
My favorite part -- they call a neighbor, who proceeds to cover an entire bedroom wall with advanced mathematical calculations. Turning to the camera, he then says, "I'm no expert...."
- I watched an old Night Gallery on Hulu Plus that starred Diane Keaton as a ditzy nurse. The "old man" she took care of looked like he was about 48 years old...
- This is the Burgess Meredith hour. "The Obsolete Man" followed by "Time Enough at Last". "It's not fair!"
- "A Stop At Willoughby - Less hellish than an actual Metro-North commute"
- Pig people!
- Donna Douglass was quite beautiful, but that can't have been her voice, right?
Next up: "To Serve Man"! Then, Shatner's tour de force "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet".
- It's a cookbook!
- "To serve man" terrified me as a child.
- Why, R212?
- I prefer "The Scary Door"
- The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street. It's still very applicable to the current United States.
- We usually get all of the popular classic episodes during one of those marathons. This time the schedule was so short that they left out a lot of the regulars. I wish they had programmed it to carry over into today.
- Did Rod Serling sell the rights to The Twilight Zone, meaning I guess his kids don't get any money from these marathons,
- I'm grateful I got to see "The Hitch Hiker." Definitely one of those dark episodes that leaves me seriously fucked-up.
- In "The After Hours" I'm impressed at how much they got Anne Francis and the woman that plays the clerk to look like their mannequin equivalents. Well done considering it was a 1960 TV production.
- I was thinking the same thing last night R219. Anne Francis's mannequin was dead on her, really great work.
I used to really look forward to the TZ marathons, but Hulu has spoiled me since they have the entire series with no editing - I'm enjoying seeing all the scenes that Syfy cuts out for commercial time.
- Did they play "And When the Sky was Opened?" (I didn't see the whole marathon.) That's another one of those chilling episodes that leaves me feeling fucked-up in a good way.
- I think that one got left out this time, r221. Like you, I didn't see the entire marathon, but I don't remember seeing it listed when I scanned the schedule ahead of time. It's a favorite of mine as well, and not just because Rod Taylor looks especially hunky.
- I'm with R221 and R222, I've always loved that particular episode, it's VERY creepy. They didn't show another of my favorites, "Mirror Image" with Vera Miles, it's not one they show often or one that anybody ever talks about, but it's kind of ominous and disturbing.
- I enjoy Mirror Image as well. It was made before Bus travel was strictly the provence of the poor. And Martin Milner does a nice job in support of Vera Miles, though I much prefer Milner playing opposite Kent McCord!
- [quote] It was made before Bus travel was strictly the provence of the poor.
That's something I never thought about before, good point.
- I'm also not sure if they played "The Arrival," with the old, haunting DC-3 plane landing unmanned at an airport. I remember the twist ending was such a bizarre mind-fuck, it blows Shyamalan plot-twists off this planet. Without even taking a deep breath, I might add.
- Yes, R226; I saw it for perhaps the 3rd time ever. I've been afraid to fly (for no good reason) since 1984; this didn't help, hee-hee! GREAT episode.
- Are they part of the regular/free Hulu service, r220, or the premium level that you have to pay for?
I also like to watch the original episodes unedited and see where SyFy makes cuts for commercials.
But even if they are all available for free streaming, that wouldn't stop me from watching the marathons. I enjoy the way that SyFy makes an 'event' feeling out of scheduling them.
- R228, yes, it's the regular free Hulu service. And I'm with you, I still watch the TZ marathons regardless of the editing - I love the series so much, it draws me in every time.
- My local PBS station is rerunning their Pioneers of Television series and I just saw the episode on Sci Fi TV.
In it, they have an old interview with Rod Serling where he says that his overall favorite episode was "Time Enough At Last." He added that his favorite episode that he didn't write himself was "The Invaders."
- I know you guys don't like "The Bewitching Pool" but coming from an abusive home, I really related to it. I saw it when I was so young that whenever I swam in a pool I would imagine that if I got so deep to the bottom I'd be transported to another place. So watching it now, even though I know it's a lesser episode, it still gives some nostalgic hope to me. But I think, as an adult, "The Midnight Sun" is far and away my favorite episode.
- R231, I was lucky enough to come from a non-abusive home (well suppose these days WOULD qualify as verbal abuse; we just thought it was arguing, hee-hee!) and I LOVED that episode, "Bewitching Pool." AM old, was probably 10-12 when saw the orig., with my brother (2 years younger) and our babysitter. Freaked me out! One of the best "Zone" episodes.
ANOTHER one that freaked me out big time (till I was 40ish and saw on a rerun) - don't remember title? but is one where an attractive blond woman (Diana Hyland; RIP) goes horseback riding and occasionally sees a HIDEOUS crone riding behind her.
Turns out: is her older self, to come.
(Now that I'm about 15 years older than Hyland when she passed away FAR too young: episode resonates even more! (haven't been on a horse in 35 years, though, heh-heh)
What a GREAT series (the original) it was.
- [quote]Time Enough At Last.
Never understood the need for such a cruel ending. He didn't deserve it.
- I agree, R233. It's not fair.
- Best tv series ever.
- [quote]ANOTHER one that freaked me out big time (till I was 40ish and saw on a rerun) - don't remember title? but is one where an attractive blond woman (Diana Hyland; RIP) goes horseback riding and occasionally sees a HIDEOUS crone riding behind her. Turns out: is her older self, to come.
Spur Of The Moment, r232. A very good one that they don't often play during the SyFy marathons.
She's like a creepy witch scaring the young girl all the time when she's chasing her. But in the end it turns out that she's just desperately trying to talk to her to warn the younger version of herself not to marry the guy that she end up marrying - the one that has made her life miserable for so many years.
- R234, I see what you did there.
This was on TZ once, it's weird and creepy.
- I've always enjoyed "One For The Angels" and "Nothing In The Dark", the latter featuring a young Robert Redford. "You see -- no shock, no engulfment, no tearing asunder. What you feared would come like an explosion is like a whisper. What you thought was the end is the beginning."
- bump. Marathon beings tomorrow (12/31) at 8 am.
- It's a Facebook!
- Love the one with Rod Taylor and Jim Hutton when they were young and cute
- The Facebook/Twitter pop-ups are annoying.
- Are they showing The Hitchhiker? I love that one!
- Yes, "The Hitchhiker" is on tonight, I think around midnight. Look up the schedule on SyFy's website. The marathon is all day tomorrow, too (New Year's Day).
- Earth creature in his native habitat!
- Old Man and his loyal hound dog.
- I love that this thread gets bumped for each marathon!
The most popular episodes get scheduled during prime time.
I've seen 3 episodes so far that don't get as much play: "A Nice Place to Visit", "A World of His Own", and "King Nine Will Not Return" (now airing).
- Get the complete series on blu ray. A little pricey but well worth it.
- R244 SPOILER ALERT!
- I fucking love it. New Year's isn't New Year's without my Twilight Zone and Honeymooners marathons.
- Is no one watching this year?
- Going my way, R251?
- Why did they get rid of the eye in the original opening?
- This episode "Where Is Everybody?" with Earl Holliman. This was the very first episode of the series, broadcast on October 2, 1959.
- I feel so dirty that I was aroused by William Shattner's hands, arms and biceps in the 1960 Ridgeview Ohio episode.
- "I feel so dirty that I was aroused by William Shattner's hands, arms and biceps in the 1960 Ridgeview Ohio episode."
Don't be ashamed. He was handsome as a young man.
- Earl Holliman was also cute when he was young
- Time Enough At Last is on now.
- After that bitch of a wife rips up his book, I always love the line Burgess Meredith says (and will usually say it right before he does), "Why, Helen? Why do you do these things?"
Can't tell you why. Just something about the way he said it I guess.
- Earl Holliman is a closeted gay we rarely discuss here.
- Did they show "Nothing In The Dark" with a young Robert Redford yet? I love that one (for the story as well as RR) as well as "One For The Angels" about the salesman marked for death.
- I believe you're going, my way?
- It's primetime so they're starting to play some of the classics.
- I like the one where the little boy, Bill Mumy, has control over the towns people. Better not make him mad, will turn you into a jack-in-the-box. I wish I had his power..
- "A Stop at Willoughby" is still relevant today.
- Room for one more, honey.
- Has anyone ever told you that you should go to AAA?
- I never knew Redford was in an episode. Going to search for it on YT.
- "Eye Of The Beholder"
Pig people is starting!
- "Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up" starring the great, queeny character actor John Hoyt is on at 11pm (eastern)
- Now beginning: "The Invaders - DL fave Agnes Moorhead silently fighting off tiny aliens"
- From earth.
Oops did I give it away?
- SPOILER ALERT at R272!
- I decided to join you guys since Kathy Griffin WON'T SHUT UP!!!
- 11:00 PM Eastern "Will The Real Martian Please Stand Up - Which of the patrons of a roadside diner is an alien?"
- Welcome, R275!
- Joseph Ruskin, who was the voice of the alien in "To Serve Man" (It's a cookbook!") has died at 89. He also played various roles in Star Trek series.
- Ruskin was also the genie in "The Man in the Bottle". It is not being shown in this marathon.
- A few years ago Ann Francis (from the TZ episode The After Hours) died shortly after one of the Twilight Zone marathons aired.
The Twilight Zone kills!
- On now: "The Obsolete Man - Burgess Meredith (without broken glasses) and Fritz Weaver in a totalitarian future where Burgess, his occupation and reading have become obsolete. Weaver would later do an homage to this episode on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine playing a Cardassian (not Kardashian)."
Next: "The Midnight Sun - The world is getting hotter for a young and old lady, or is it?"
- We're several episodes behind you here on the West Coast.
- It's 4:30 on the east coast and they're airing Anne Francis in 'The After Hours.'
I love the posts with interesting facts and background info about the show or the actors. Much appreciated.
- Betty Garde, the older woman in Midnight Sun, was also the bull dyke with a heart of gold in the film "Caged".
- How's it going? Can't watch now.
- Yes - Betty was "Kitty" in "Caged" and like Ellen Corby, her face never changed in 40 uears of acting. Inger Stevens was so gorgeous. Love seeing all these great character actors.
- "Uncle Simon" with the DL fave Constance Ford. She played an evil dumpy dyke like no one could!
- Unlike most, I absolutely fucking HATED "It's a Good Life," which is on right now, mainly because the kid got no comeuppance whatsoever -- it was just a half hour of him being evil and then it was over. What was the point? (And the follow-up episode they did in the 80s on that new Twilight Zone was even worse.)
Anyway, guess I'll use this time to make a quick run to the grocery store.
- You're a bad man, R288! You're a very bad man!
I'm turning you into your own shopping cart!
- My episode is on right now. You better be watching; if you aren't, then I don't like you. I wish people I don't like into the cornfield.
- How many segments did Billy Mummy do? He was so cute.
- Can Anthony wish Sarah Palin into a cornfield?
- I adore you, R289.
- It's a cookbook!
- Are they not showing And Then The Sky Was Open?
- R295, they showed it yesterday.
- "My name is Talky Tina."
- "and I'm going to kill you."
- The Masks. One of the favorites.
- "The Masks - Dying old man makes ungrateful relatives wear masks to reveal their true selves."
- Next is, what is in my opinion, the worst Twilight Zone episode ever: "The Bewitchin' Pool". I know it has its admirers, but I think it is like a Spielberg movie: designed to pull at the heartstrings and assuage the feelings of adults who couldn't cope with them as children and mature. See E.T., for example.
- Do they ever show the one hour episodes from season 4?
- [quote] Dying old man makes ungrateful relatives wear masks to reveal their true selves."
I always wondered how that nice old man ended up with such shitty children and grandchildren.
- Never liked "The Bewitchin' Pool". That Auntie in the other world was creepy. And the obvious dubbing of the little girl is ridiculous.
- Have these been edited so SyFy can squeeze more commercials in? I seem to recall a scene in the Talky Tina episode that didn't appear in the episode that aired tonight.
- Love the crazy one with Joan Blondell.
"A fan dancer in YONKERS!!!"
- Bewitchin' Pool should have ended with the two kids floating face down in the pool.
- [quote] Unlike most, I absolutely fucking HATED "It's a Good Life," which is on right now, mainly because the kid got no comeuppance whatsoever -- it was just a half hour of him being evil and then it was over. What was the point?
The point was to influence a young boy who watched the show (named Stephen King) to take all the frightening aspects of this half hour show and make a career writing countless books based on it.
A child who rules a town, eventually killing all adults. Cornfields. Telekinesis. Pyrokinesis. Telepathy. Mind reading. Children vs parents. Disappearing dogs. Characters being trapped and isolated from the outside world. Victimization of the weak by the strong. Characters are exhorted to stand up against chaos and for the common good.
King was influenced by a lot of Twilight Zone episodes, but this one is chockful of influences.
Aside from that ---- Rod Serling was a soldier in WWII. He was profoundly affected by it. Many of his shows are about war -- the futility and destruction caused by war; fear of war; fear of people who are different and the effect that conformity and authoritarianism have on society and how it leads to fear and degradation.
Serling was anti-fascist and anti-communist. The books 1984 and Animal Farm were big influences on him. The entire point of this episode was to show that a society that is constantly watched and judged and isolated from the outside world by an all-powerful dictator is a miserable, frightening and lethal place to live and that people need to band together and fight against oppression or they are all doomed.
- Never saw the mask episode before and was surprised to see the late Alan Sues in it.
- [quote]And the obvious dubbing of the little girl is ridiculous.
Seriously. And that girl was Mary Badham, who played Scout in "To Kill a Mockingbird" just a few years before this episode. Her voice was good enough for that American classic but not TZ?
- I can't stick around all weekend to watch the entire marathon, though I stayed up until 4:00 this morning. Every year, there are one, two or three episodes I've never seen. This year was no different. Right now, I'm watching the episode with the robot grandmother who loves three young children "forever". I hate the episode with Bill Mummy as the evil child! Not sure why . . .
- Billy Mumy is in the episode airing now - the one about the dead grandma and the telephone. Some of these episodes look as if they were televised live. They have that old soap opera look to them.
- R312 Those episodes were done during the season where they had to cut the budget and switch from film to videotape.
- They did a sequel to It's a Good Life, starring grown up Billy Mumy, with Cloris Leachman returning as his mother and his real-life daughter playing his daughter. If you've seen The Santa Claus 2 during one of its 853190th airings this past month, you will recognize her as Tim Allen's niece.
It's an hour long, which is a mistake. It should have been a quickie half hour that didn't take itself so seriously.
- The non-marathon episode on MeTV tonight features DL favorite Constance Ford!
- What's worse about the dubbing in "The Bewitchin' Pool" is that June Foray provided the voice so the little girl sounds like Rocky the Squirrel.
- Oh, my (non-existent) god! I had no idea that Joseph Ruskin was Galt! I should have to serve as practice target. RIP, Joe.
The six episodes of S2 that were shot on videotape (including "Long-Distance Call" and the much-repeated "Night of the Meek" with Art Carney as Santa Claus) were not a budget-cut mandate, as such. It was done experimentally (but yes, with an eye on the budget, of course) and when the six had been filmed, producer Buck Houghton was able to say "we tried it, it didn't work" and get CBS to let them go back to film. So, yes, budget pressure, but it's not as though they were flat-broke or anything.
Charles Aidman, the third astronaut in the Rod Taylor-Jim Hutton "And When the Sky was Opened" trio (and also the friendly neighbor who can help pull your daughter back from another dimension in "Little Girl Lost") was the replacement narrator on the first two seasons of the 1980s version. (Robin Ward narrated the 3rd, syndicated, season.) I actually think there were many good episodes of that version (the Steve Railsback episode, "Dead Run", should be popular here, I'd guess), but nothing is the same as the original, of course.
It's a pity the fourth-season episodes (the hour-long ones) aren't shown on SyFy. Our local station used to show them, occasionally. The last episode of that season, "On Thursday We Leave for Home" (starring Mr. Miracle-Gro, James Whitmore, and Matthew Broderick's dad, James) was just brilliant.
- It's difficult to watch some of these episodes without thinking of the parodies on "The Simpsons" Halloween episodes.
- [quote] (and also the friendly neighbor who can help pull your daughter back from another dimension in "Little Girl Lost")
Aw, I missed it. I haven't seen it for years and I wanted to see if I remembered it correctly. In my memory, the neighbor comes over and completely covers the walls of the room with higher mathematical equations and says, "Well..... I'm no expert, but..."
No, you're no expert. Just the average suburban neighbor ...
- I don't have time to watch the Twilight Zone...I'm too busy watching the Mister Ed marathon.
- R320 = Sarah Jessica Parker
- "Her voice was good enough for that American classic but not TZ?"
Her voice was dubbed for technical reasons, not because it wasn't "good enough"
Read the Twilight Zone guide by Marc Scott Zicree, it explains the technical issues
- [quote]The last episode of that season, "On Thursday We Leave for Home" (starring Mr. Miracle-Gro, James Whitmore, and Matthew Broderick's dad, James) was just brilliant.
Brilliant isn't the word. It's truly a masterpiece in my opinion.
[quote]Her voice was good enough for that American classic but not TZ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it did seem as though in a couple of scenes in that episode, they actually did use the little girl's voice and not the dubbed-over one. Or was that not the case?
- Badham's voice was dubbed during the parents/pool scenes. Her real voice was used in the Aunt T. scenes.
- [quote]There was noise interference on the MGM back-lot during the pool sequences, and everyone had to be called back for post-dubbing, but actress Mary Badham wasn't available. June Foray was brought in to dub her lines. It was a "sloppy" job, and Rod Serling knew it. It was held until the very end of the season as the "final" show (where, it was figured, most people wouldn't notice, having tuned out of the series).
- Today's schedule:
Five Characters In Search Of An Exit
Nick Of Time
Night Of The Meek
Kick The Can
Where Is Everybody
It's A Good Life
Dead Man's Shoes
Third From The Sun
The Bewitchin' Pool
The Howling Man
The Odyssey Of Flight 33
The Obsolete Man
Eye Of The Beholder
The Twilight Zone
Time Enough At Last
A Stop At Willoughby
The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street
To Serve Man
Will The Real Martian Please Stand Up
Nightmare At 20,000 Feet
The Midnight Sun
I Sing The Body Electric
A Penny For Your Thoughts
Number Twelve Looks Just Like You
Stopover In A Quiet Town
A Most Unusual Camera
Long Distance Call
- And please, just not the one with Buster Keaton. That was a true embarrassment.
- "Night of the Meek" with Art Carney as Santa Claus at 9:00 a.m. Not one of my favorites as it is on videotape and had a sappy, half-assed script.
- OMG, thank you, R326!! I forgot about TZ on Syfy today! Thanks again!
- At 10:00 am Eastern, "Where Is Everybody?" with Earl Holliman. This was the very first episode of the series, broadcast on October 2, 1959.
- Where is Everbody?
- Dl fave "It's a Good Life" is next. It's a DL fave because it's a DLers dream. A petulant boy controls an entire town through magic powers which he uses to make others suffer. All live in fear of him.
- Young Earl Holliman was a cutie
- I used to watch the marathons, but now I'd rather just watch it on Netflix, with no commercials or editing.
- What network is showing the marathon?
- SyFy, R335. They do it on 4th of July and New Year's Eve/Day.
- SyFy, R335.
You're a bad fan for not knowing. A very bad fan.
- [quote] You're a bad fan for not knowing. A very bad fan.
Keep it up, I see a cornfield in your future.
- The Hitch-Hiker is on soon! Love that one!
- Did Earl Holliman ever come out, or is he one of those "open secret" types?
- "Going my way?"
The Hitchhiker next.
- The Hitchhiker is a really scary one.
- The Hitchhiker is truly creepy. Inger's narrative is wonderful and adds so much to the melancholy, unsettling tone of the story.
- He was beckoning me. BECKONING ME!
- DId she just say she's "refrigerated by fear" ??!?
- DAMN! I missed it's a good life ep. BUT Inger is making me forget my regret.
- "The Dummy" is on now, another eerie one.
- Up next at 1:00 Eastern: "The Invaders - DL fave Agnes Moorhead silently fighting off tiny aliens"
Don't say I didn't give you adequate warning!
- It's only on until 8 tonight. Syfy I think now tends to abbreviate the July 4th marathon and saves the really big TZ blowout for New Year's.
- [quote]At 10:00 am Eastern, "Where Is Everybody?" with Earl Holliman. This was the very first episode of the series, broadcast on October 2, 1959.
And now the final episode is on: "The Bewitchin' Pool," originally broadcast on June 19, 1964.
- Next "The Bewitchin' Pool - Children escape divorcing parents by diving into pool at the other end of which is a benevolent paradise for kids"
One of, if not the worst, episode of The Twilight Zone. It was also the sad. As an earlier poster wrote, "Bewitchin' Pool should have ended with the two kids floating face down in the pool."
- I agree, R352, that that would have been one hell of an ending but probably a little too much for 1964.
- WTF is Scout's voice dubbed over?
- the sad = the last
- Did they dub over ALL of the actors in this episode or just the little girl? They all sound like they have someone else's voice coming out of their mouths.
- It sounds like she's the only one because the other children sound like children while she sounds like a grown woman trying to sound like a child.
- R351 R355 Where are you located that the marathon is ending? How sad, like R352 said.
Here in New England it goes on until 8 pm. Classic eps are still ahead but not the one with the old man and his coon hound who went coon huntin' despite his old woman's protestations; that's my favorite.
- Now she sounds normal - When she's trying to get her brother to come back with her to their parents.
- R358, I wasn't referring to today's marathon, I was referring to the fact that the hideous "Bewitchin' Pool" was the final episode of the series.
- Duh - now I get it, you meant the last TZ show made, not the last of the episodes shown in today's marathon where you live. Apparently I need more coffee.
- R361, try some coffee and cak on me.
- Now "The Masks - Dying old man makes ungrateful relatives wear masks to reveal their true selves."
- The Masks, bitches! The Masks!
- If your dying relative made you wear a caftan to reveal your true self, what would it look like?
- Re: The Howling Man.
How does an imprisoned man get access to eyeliner?
- Yes, watching..poor Inger Stevens beside herself because this man keeps appearing as she drives across country. Hallmark Channel has all Christmas theme movies..I just love it.
- The dubbing of Mary Badham (Scout from "To Kill a Mockingbird") is discussed upthread.
- Do they ever show "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge?" I know it was not actually made by Rod Serling and Company (it was a French short that he purchased and edited/dubbed to show as a TZ episode), but do they include it in the syndication package?
I heard a radio adaptation of it yesterday on SiriusXM (with Victor Jory) and have always wanted to see the TZ/French filmed version.
- Just saw The Hitch Hiker awhile ago. That episode always creeps me out and fucks me up.
I'm hoping to see The Grave, with perpetual badass Lee Marvin. And When the Sky was Opened, another that seriously unsettled me.
- Yes! Now it's "Third from the Sun," the episode that racks up tension so high it's almost physically uncomfortable.
- You must be on the west coast, R371.
- What the fuck is it about SyFy and all the foot commercials?!
We've got gross ass Shaq & his nasty feet, the endless Dr Scholls spots and the weird commercial with the guy getting married barefoot and how he's proud of his feet! WTF?!
- Why thank you R362 - don't mind if I do! Mmmm...cak.
- Yes, I'm a Bay Arean R372. I assume our TZ schedule is a few hours behind yours?
- East Coast is seeing "Living Doll" with Telly Savalas.
- Season 3 Episode 19 The Hunt is the one with the old man and his coonhound, Rip.
The Grave sounds intriguing - I don't remember a Lee Marvin episode.
- *taking a long drag from an unfiltered cigarette*
- The Grave was a really creepy gem with a unique surprise ending, R377. Definitely a must-watch for any TZ fan.
- I've never seen "The Grave." Hopefully, it's on YT.
- Jesus! The guy playing the judge in the futuristic trial of the librarian was over the top BAD! "Mr WORDSWORTH Mr WORDSWORTH Mr WORDSWORTH!!!!"
- That was the excellent Fritz Weaver having a field day with that performance, R381.
- Here on the W. Coast, they're showing "The Invaders." This unusual episode is known for having no dialogue and music-scored by a young Jerry Goldsmith.
- I'm a legal secretary and total TZ junkie, so I found it cool that one of the lawyers I work for is a distant cousin of Rod Serling's. (That fun fact aside, however, he appears to have little to zero interest in TZ.)
- R382, he's so awful I'm close to changing the channel.
- Why would you say that, R382? He's just having scenery-chewing fun with this role. At the very least, you could hardly call it a boring performance.
- It's funny, in "The Invaders" some of the Jerry Goldsmith music reminds me a lot of the music in Segment 4 of "Twilight Zone: The Movie." It's obvious he referred to this score when scoring the monster on the wing of the plane.
- They just started "Eye of The Beholder" where I live.
- The most rousing, majestic Twilight Zone music of all time......
- Here in CA, they're now showing "The Bewitching Pool," the episode where the little girl has the weirdest, old-lady voice I've ever heard in a child actor.
- [quote]the little girl has the weirdest, old-lady voice I've ever heard in a child actor.
Didn't that actress later voice Rocky the Squirrel?
- Eye Of The Beholder - Pig people!
- I wouldn't be surprised, R391. Sorry to be spamtastic but I get so excited about these TZ's, it's seriously the most intelligent TV show in the past 50-something years of broadcasting. No ifs, ands or buts about it.
- Next: "Time Enough At Last - It's not fair! Burgess Meredith with glasses and without bitchy wife or asshole boss"
- Every time I see "Eye of the Beholder," I always think the hot guy who escorts her away at the end just seems so gay. Don't know who the actor was but that's the impression I always get watching that scene.
- R391 Yes it was June Foray dubbing in The Bewitchin ' Pool. In addition to Rocky, she created the voices of Cindy Lou Who and Natasha Fatale, among many iconic animated tv characters.
Natasha must already have at least one thread on DL. How could she NOT be a DL icon?!
- Nice! Here on the W. Coast they're showing "The Masks." It features the most colorful, interesting old coot of a character Rod Serling ever created. I LOVE the way the old man was ironically insulting his relatives and they were too far up their own assholes to realize it.
- I want to kill moose and squirrel.
- June Foray was also the voice of Talky Tina in Living Doll.
- I thought I recognized the voice, r399.
Would someone explain WHY she dubbed Scout's voice?
- Isn't there a Rocky & Bullwinkle Marathon every year on some holiday like Labor Day or maybe Turkey Day?
- According to the book Twilight Zone Companion, there were sound recording problems for the non Aunt T scenes. Combine that with Badham's thick accent and they had to loop her. NO explanation is provided as to why June Foray did the looping instead of Badham. The producer of the episode hated Betwitchin' Pool--thought the actress who played Aunt T played it "cute" instead of as an Earth Mother and blamed the director of the episode for laying it on thick with the cutesiness throughout the episode. Earl Hamner, Jr., who later created the Waltons, wrote this one as a reaction to family life he observed in Suburban California in the early 60s.
- "A Stop At Willoughby - Less hellish than an actual Metro-North commute"
- "On Maple Street - Blackouts, Claude Akins (pre-Sensodyne) and Aliens prepping"
- They just showed "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street" and whose voice do I recognize? The little queen who played young Patrick Dennis in AUNTIE MAME in his only other imdb listed role
- The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street. It's still very applicable to the current United States.
- The "Monsters are due on Maple St." is a timeless cautionary tale that could apply to any human society.
- DL get ready! Next up is DL fave "To Serve Man".
IT'S A COOKBOOK!
- Monsters on Maple is actually the best episode in the series, IMO, due to how wholly the United States has fulfilled its prophecy.
- True story.
In 1970 I was a Resident Advisor for incoming freshman residents in my college dorm. Yes I am old.
The only other RA in our very small dorm was there with me at a strategic location in the second floor hallway, waiting to great kids and parents who might ascend any of three access stairways from the outdoor street level.
It was deathly quiet and dull just sitting there so we lit up a hash pipe. We started commenting that it was surreal being back in this roll-up-the-sidewalks-at-4pm rural town. We were under the deluded impression that we were being witty and sophisticated, and one of us commented knowingly that this was EXACTLY like being in the Twilight Zone. Much laughter ensued.
Then the door at the far end of the building creaked slowly, heavily, and paused before slamming shut. We heard no voices - just slow steady footfalls on the steep stairway toward our floor. The high ceiling and linoleum floor in the big Victorian building magnified the deliberate footsteps. We watched in silence as the top of a dark haired head appeared above the top step. Then we saw the eyes. We looked at each other dumbfounded, then watched as the slight, tanned man in a black suit, narrow black tie, and white shirt emerged into view. No effing way - it could be no one other than Rod Serling.
We were still so stoned that the whole situation became more impossibly surreal than we could ever have hoped for.
Serliing's wife and daughter followed him, a few steps behind, and approached us - in silence - from the end of that long corridor. They were all tiny - petite, and very short. It was a letdown to realize that I towered over the guy and I 'm just average height. Then he opened his mouth.
The RA and I simultaneously began to collapse into agitated guffaws and had to work hard to achieve anything vaguely resembling RA composure.
His daughter was assigned to a different dorm, and didn't stay for a second semester. Too bad - it would have been interesting watching others react when they spotted Serling wandering around campus from time to time.
- MeTV shows TZ unedited every night. I always watch the Syfy TZ marathons but I hate how they've cut out so many scenes in the episodes.
- Amazing story, R410.
- Last stop...Willoughby!
- My favorite episode was the robotic nanny, "I sing the body electric" it was so emotional at the end. And, the episode with Billy Mumy..."You're a very bad man!" Also, the episode with Robert Redford where he plays the angel of death.
- Scariest was Talking Teena, and the episode where a girl turns into a doll.
- [quote]Dears Netflix has the entire series on streaming...
It's also on Hulu + and in HD!
- It's on Hulu non-plus too. Until 2016.
- I'm nonplussed, R418.
- haha R419.
- [quote]MeTV shows TZ unedited every night. I always watch the Syfy TZ marathons but I hate how they've cut out so many scenes in the episodes.
Sure glad the TZ marathon isn't on MeTV today, though, since MeTV has been blown out here in NYC since about Tuesday. I've already called Time Warner several times about it.
- "Will The Real Martian Please Stand Up - Which of the patrons of a roadside diner is an alien?"
SyFy is fucking up. Some of these episodes are clearly night episodes. There are day and night TZ episodes, and this one is clearly a night episode.
- They are not going by the schedule, I wanted to see the episode with Donna Douglas, because I never saw that before. Marathon ends at 6 pm in my area.
- For whatever it's worth, YouTube has many full episodes of the TZ, at any given time. Some get deleted but other people still upload more of it.
- Now we're getting "The Obsolete Man," with Fritz Weaver's entertaining, thundering, larger-than-life performance.
- This marathon should not end until midnight.
- r395 That sexy actor is Edson Stroll. He also played a crewmember, Virgil, on "McHale's Navy."
- Willoughby on now!
- The TZ marathon is back on. I was channel-surfing and caught the tail-end of "The Midnight Sun," which was the first episode on after that gladiator thing went off. The rest of the episodes are going to run to just after 4 a.m. I think.
- Thanks, r429.
- "Stopover in a Quiet Town" is one of the creepier TZ episodes. Disquiet, foreboding, isolation, yikes!
- Let's all meet back here again on New Year's Day!
- [quote]Let's all meet back here again on New Year's Day!
Will you be going...my way?
- New Year's Even marathon starts at 8 am tomorrow!
- I think that she, Gladys Cooper was on 2 episodes of TWILIGHT ZONE. The other being one where she's an elderly woman terrified that the Angel Of Death is coming for her so she holes up in her apartment. Then a wounded young policeman shows up begging for her help(Robert Redford).
On the episode (LINK BELOW) entitled NIGHT CALL, Cooper is an invalid who starts receiving prank calls each night after her nurses aide goes home. This was one of my favorites episodes.
- R435, the episode with a young Robert Redford (who looks as delicious as a young William Shatner in his episodes) was the excellent "Nothing In The Dark".
"Mother, give me your hand. ... You see. No shock. No engulfment. No tearing asunder. What you feared would come like an explosion is like a whisper. What you thought was the end is the beginning."
- I'm assuming that the post about Donna Douglas is referring to the episode 'Eye Of The Beholder' because that's one of the more famous episodes.
Douglas was also on another where she has 2 lines entitled 'Cavender Is Coming' or 'Cavendish Is Coming' where she played a sexy girl at a party. Carol Burnett was a young woman with a simple life who longed for excitement and she got to find out what would be entailed if she got her wish. I'm pretty sure the former was Douglas' first time on TZ; the two episodes being just a couple of years apart, the latter in '62 right before she was cast as 'Elly May' on THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES.
- It's on!
- Please list the schedule.
- Geez, how lazy are you, R439?
- Below is the schedule. Unfortunately, SyFy made an error in their schedule linked by R440, and all the early morning January 1st and January 2nd listings have the date of the day before. The schedule below corrects that error. It's nice to see they're airing quite a few rarer episodes!
Dec 31 08:00 AM The Old Man In The Cave
Dec 31 08:30 AM Caesar And Me
Dec 31 09:00 AM The Last Flight
Dec 31 09:30 AM The Little People
Dec 31 10:00 AM Third From The Sun
Dec 31 10:30 AM Long Live Walter Jameson
Dec 31 11:00 AM A Piano In The House
Dec 31 11:30 AM Perchance To Dream
Dec 31 12:00 PM A Most Unusual Camera
Dec 31 12:30 PM The Arrival
Dec 31 01:00 PM A Thing About Machines
Dec 31 01:30 PM And When The Sky Was Opened
Dec 31 02:00 PM I Shot An Arrow Into The Air
Dec 31 02:30 PM Nick Of Time
Dec 31 03:00 PM Night Of The Meek
Dec 31 03:30 PM Number Twelve Looks Just Like You
Dec 31 04:00 PM What's In The Box
Dec 31 04:30 PM Walking Distance
Dec 31 05:00 PM A Hundred Yards Over The Rim
Dec 31 05:30 PM People Are Alike All Over
Dec 31 06:00 PM Probe 7 Over And Out
Dec 31 06:30 PM Stopover In A Quiet Town
Dec 31 07:00 PM A Game Of Pool
Dec 31 07:30 PM The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street
Dec 31 08:00 PM The Dummy
Dec 31 08:30 PM The Invaders
Dec 31 09:00 PM To Serve Man
Dec 31 09:30 PM Nightmare At 20,000 Feet
Dec 31 10:00 PM A Stop At Willoughby
Dec 31 10:30 PM The Hitch-hiker
Dec 31 11:00 PM Dead Man's Shoes
Dec 31 11:30 PM Will The Real Martian Please Stand Up
Dec 31 12:00 AM The Midnight Sun
Jan 1 12:30 AM The Obsolete Man
Jan 1 01:00 AM The After Hours
Jan 1 01:30 AM Night Call
Jan 1 02:00 AM The Lonely
Jan 1 02:30 AM King Nine Will Not Return
Jan 1 03:00 AM The Hunt
Jan 1 03:30 AM Mr. Denton On Doomsday
Jan 1 04:00 AM Uncle Simon
Jan 1 04:30 AM Two
Jan 1 06:00 AM I Dream Of Genie
Jan 1 07:00 AM Jess-belle
Jan 1 08:00 AM The Purple Testament
Jan 1 08:30 AM Mr. Bevis
Jan 1 09:00 AM The Rip Van Winkle Caper
Jan 1 09:30 AM Ring-a-ding Girl
Jan 1 10:00 AM Little Girl Lost
Jan 1 10:30 AM Hocus-pocus And Frisby
Jan 1 11:00 AM Escape Clause
Jan 1 11:30 AM The Prime Movers
Jan 1 12:00 PM Mr. Dingle, The Strong
Jan 1 12:30 PM One For The Angels
Jan 1 01:00 PM The Silence
Jan 1 01:30 PM The Sixteen-millimeter Shrine
Jan 1 02:00 PM Death's Head Revisited
Jan 1 02:30 PM It's A Good Life
Jan 1 03:00 PM A Nice Place To Visit
Jan 1 03:30 PM A Penny For Your Thoughts
Jan 1 04:00 PM Black Leather Jackets
Jan 1 04:30 PM Five Characters In Search Of An Exit
Jan 1 05:00 PM The Odyssey Of Flight 33
Jan 1 05:30 PM The 7th Is Made Up Of Phantoms
Jan 1 06:00 PM A Kind Of Stopwatch
Jan 1 06:30 PM The Bewitchin' Pool
Jan 1 07:00 PM Kick The Can
Jan 1 07:30 PM The Masks
Jan 1 08:00 PM I Sing The Body Electric
Jan 1 08:30 PM Living Doll
Jan 1 09:00 PM Time Enough At Last
Jan 1 09:30 PM Where Is Everybody
Jan 1 10:00 PM The Howling Man
Jan 1 10:30 PM Eye Of The Beholder
Jan 1 11:00 PM The Shelter
Jan 1 11:30 PM I Am The Night - Color Me Black
Jan 1 12:00 AM Long Distance Call
Jan 2 12:30 AM Judgement Night
Jan 2 01:00 AM Nightmare As A Child
Jan 2 01:30 AM The Grave
Jan 2 02:00 AM The Four Of Us Are Dying
Jan 2 02:30 AM A World Of His Own
Jan 2 03:00 AM In Praise Of Pip
Jan 2 03:30 AM The Fever
Jan 2 04:00 AM The Last Rights Of Jeff Myrtlebank
Jan 2 04:30 AM What You Need
Jan 2 05:00 AM The New Exhibit
- Rod Serling was certainly prophetic wasn't he? I just watched the one set in the future where everyone was transformed into a beauty losing all personality. He certainly saw the future of cosmetic surgery.
- Yonkers, Yonkers, Yonkers!
Fan dancers, fan dancers!
- I never knew Gig Young had been married to Elizabeth Montgomery. The things you find out when you look up Twilight Zone actors.
- Hi! Good to see all of you again. Has it been a year already?
- The rim.
- Currently watching a HHInternational marathon.
- I (East Coast) saw "Walking Distance" an hour or so ago; sobbed like a baby! Maybe 'cause parents are long-dead; not sure - VERY moving episode (about 3rd time I've seen over the years); Ronnie Howard! Gig Young! So sad he was tormented and died in murder-suicide with his wife. A really excellent actor.
Later tonight, ANOTHER favorite: "Willoughby." SO glad so many of you - of US - like these TZ marathons.
- Ronnie Howard wasn't in "Walking Distance."
- Whaaaaaaaat's in the boooooooooooox?!
- I always like to catch this one -
Wasn't a happy marriage. Her father was against it from the get go. He 'knew about' Gig; his reputation for being a drinker, moody as hell plus he was 20 years older than Elizabeth. Elizabeth at 23 already had one failed attempt at marriage under her belt. Gig had one also and he was widowed once as well.She went ahead and married him against her father's wishes and the two did not speak for several years.
Elizabeth found out the hard way. She was subjected to his drunkenness and saw how mean he was when he was drinking. He was also allegedly physically abusive. She however wouldn't acknowledge the problems to her family for some time. Saving face or whatever. Anyway, the two separated and divorced in 1963.
Elizabeth lucked out when her next big romance was with Bill Asher who had the well deserved reputation of being one of the nicest, most decent people in Hollywood. Asher, a producer would also produce his wife in her hit series Bewitched.
Gig would marry 2 more times. His next wife was Elaine Garber who once that marriage ended became a successful real estate agent in Beverly Hills. Poor Elaine was also the recipient of some bad plastic surgery.
Then as most here are aware, years later in 1978 Gig committed a murder-suicide on his new bride who was only in her 20s I think. Gig being about 65 at the time. This tragic event played out at his pied-a-terre in NYC.
- They're about to show DL fave "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street".
Look for the late Amzie Strickland in the 'Maple Street' one.
Amzie was also the saleslady in the Don Loper Salon episode of I LOVE LUCY and one of her last gigs was on the GOLDEN GIRLS episode where Frieda Claxton dies after Rose tells her off at a hearing and the girls end up footing the bill for her funeral. Amzie was the only other person who showed up for the funeral and asked to speak a few words. She goes on about what a fine person the deceased was only to add "Celia Rubenstein was a friend to all of humanity..." which prompts Dorothy to yell, "WHO ? ?" Once she realizes that she's in the wrong viewing room and asks the girls if Claxton was the lady who lived over on such & such, she kicks the coffin !!
- R448 Thanks for sharing your thoughts; glad you're here with us.
Yeah, I was thinking about Gig Young too. Apparently he was cast in Blazing Saddles as The Kid. During filming (first day on set maybe?) of the scene in the jail cell where the Kid is suspended upside down talking to the sheriff , Gig started foaming at the mouth. An ambulance was called and eventually it became clear he was in alcohol withdrawal/detox trouble and wouldn't be returning to work. Mel Brooks called Gene Wilder and begged him to take over the role - ie, be there to film the following day. How fortunate that Wilder accepted.
That version of the Gig Young/Blazing Saddles story may well be urban legend or at least not entirely accurate. I know I can count on DL to correct my errors!
Did Gig do any other TZ eps? I
- No, Gig was in 1 episode only.
- The kid who played Patrick Dennis in the Roz Russell MAME is in that ep, IIRC, R453? I wonder if his film career ended there?
- Thanks for that, r454.
- Jan Handzlik (sic) became an attorney I think. He possessed that odd voice made me look up when I saw that episode years ago.
- Per R441 posted schedule
For all the dog lovers among us - The Hunt 1/1 3:00 AM
It's one of my all time favorite TZ eps.
- Don't miss "The Hitch-hiker" with Inger Stevens.
- Not all of the episodes are good. Anne Francis whose 'After Hours' episode is a fan favorite was also in one called Jezze Belle where she was in need of a witch. Francis wore a black wig. The episode d r a g g e d. There's plenty of 'em that are less than memorable. One of the last ones made (in '64) called 'Bewitchin Pool' featured Mary Badham (Scout in TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD) and a boy actor whose parents are always fighting and the two kids keep escaping into another world via the bottom of their pool so they can visit 'Aunt T'. Nauseating.
TRIVIA: Earl Hamner whose childhood in Appalachia was the basis for the hit tv series THE WALTONS also wrote a handful of TWILIGHT ZONE episodes.
- [quote] One of the last ones made (in '64) called 'Bewitchin Pool' featured Mary Badham (Scout in TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD) and a boy actor whose parents are always fighting and the two kids keep escaping into another world via the bottom of their pool so they can visit 'Aunt T'. Nauseating.
Totally agree. It was the last one aired, if I recall. Worst Twilight Zone episode - EVER! I can't stand the hokey title, the accents of the kids or the old woman. I spit on it!
- [quote] For all the dog lovers among us - The Hunt 1/1 3:00 AM It's one of my all time favorite TZ eps.
- "The Invaders - DL fave Agnes Moorhead silently fighting off tiny aliens"
- Rod Serling was a genius with the written word. Unfortunately he was a very troubled, unhappy man.
- R461, that's my favorite episode, tied with Mirror Image
- Jesus, I wanted to slap every last one of those people in "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street."
- R466, what was Sterling's problem? I don't know much about his personal life
- I like Matt Groening's take on "The Twilight Zone."
- I meant Serling not Sterling. Damn autocorrect
- R467, agreed! I didn't see Mirror Image on the schedule R441 posted, but it's easy enough to find on the Internet. I've been to that bus station in Ithaca. Love the high "creep factor" of both those episodes.
- I wish I was watching it, but hate the many, many commercials they usually show. :(
- I know a lot of people complain about bumped threads. But this is one I always look forward to.
- It's a...cookbook!
- Last stop Willoughby!
- I never heard that Rod Serling was a "very troubled, unhappy man." He certainly had trouble with his creativity being stymie, though. He wanted to be in control of the tv shows he was on, but was always clashing with executives who wanted to do things their way. Like his later show "Night Gallery", for example. He wanted to the segments to have some depth and originality, and the network wanted run of the mill monster stories. Even so, some of the segments of "Night Gallery" were as good as the best episodes of "The Twilight Zone." Serling was always under a lot of stress due to his constant push to see his work done the way he thought it should be done. He was also a heavy smoker. He died after heart surgery at the young age of 50.
- Going...my way?
- Why did Inger commit suicide?
- Inger had attempted suicide a handful of times before she succeeded in 1970. I do know that she had an unhappy childhood; had run away at 15 & become a showgirl, then NYC led to summer stock, commercials then she was 'discovered'.
Inger was dating Burt Reynolds at the time of her death. She actually was married, had been for years but the husband was black & they kept it a secret. I'm certain that they had not lived together for years.
- Serling was very affected by what he saw in WWII. Many members of his platoon were killed and his friend was killed in front of him by a crate of supplies dropped by an Air Force plane. He also heard about and possibly saw atrocities committed by the Japanese while in the Philippines. He was Jewish and the Holocaust made no sense to him. That's why Twilight Zone often dealt with the subject of war and blindly accepted prejudice.
He was incensed by McCarthyism.
- R481, I know this seems ridiculous, but I had no idea Serling was Jewish. He looked and sounded so WASPy. That explains a lot about The Twilight Zone focusing on the horrors of war and prejudice.
- He was also 5'4" and wore lifts.
- Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up? is coming on. I like that one. Featuring bitchy character actor John Hoyt!
- He certainly was bitchy, R484.
- I think the next one is DL fave Lois Nettleton's turn as an artist in "The Midnight Sun," where Earth has left its orbit and is falling into the sun.
You'll never guess the twist ending!
- I love this marathon every year and love this thread also. Even the not so very good episodes bring back memories. Yes I am that old.
- one of my favorite episodes is on at midnight _ the midnight sun with the wonderful lois nettleton.
- The Monsters are due on Maple Street was an indictment of McCarthyism, no?
- It's feeling kinda hot in here, right?
- Yes, r489.
In 45 minutes: Anne Francis and the mysterious department store!
"Marsha... Marsha! Try to REMEMBER, Marsha!"
- I went to the same college with Rod Serling's daughter, Nan, in NY State. She was quite the campus slut.
I ran into Rod Serling and his wife on one of those parent's weekends at college, Rod was very short. His wife was chunky.
- R492, I remember your discussing encounters with Mr. Serling and his wife previously on either this thread or another. Please recount more.
- Well, R93: It all began in a 10 watt radio station in Fresno, California.
- There was always something sort of sexy about Rod Serling.
Given his political bent, I'm sure that a more modern Rod Serling would have been penning "The Eye of the Beholder"-style scripts about gay themes.
- Love the marathon!
- Night Gallery was darker, eerier, better written.
- You are obsolete!
- I love the Anne Francis department store episode... so eerie. And the actress who played the saleslady scared the crap out of me as a child. Her performance is still very effective.
- Marsha... climb off it dear
- R467 I liked Night Gallery better as well. Serling dictated his Twilight Zones scripts to his secretary while reclining poolside . So the scripts had the feeling of one big polemic at times. Rod Serling ran Twilight Zone so editing was limited.When he hosted and wrote for Night Gallery the producer was Jack Laird. Laird edited scripts including Serling's that seemed too one voiced.Serling was unhappy with that among other things on Night Gallery but the show really holds up.
- Speaking of "Night Gallery," I find it strange that they incorporated reruns of Gary Collins' short-lived supernatural series, "The Sixth Sense," (which ran on ABC) into the rerun cycle of "Gallery" (which ran on NBC). Maybe they had the same production company or something?
- Yes both were produced by Universal. Night Gallery was on NBC while Sixth Sense was on ABC.Sixth Sense was put into the Night Gallery syndication package so NG had the requisite amount of episodes to reach syndication.Adding insult to injury Universal padded the episodes with scenes from old movies as well. Thankfully the Night Gallery DVDs all have the intact episodes without tampering.
- Very interesting, R503. Thanks. It's people like you who make coming to DL still worthwhile.
- I understand showing the "classic" episodes, but there are so many good ones that they rarely show period and the marathon would be the perfect time to showcase them. Although in this day and age, anyone really interested would just watch episodes they hadn't seen online or through Netflix, or just DVR them.
- R493 you might be remembering my story; I am not R492. I wrote about my Serling encounter in last year's TZ Marathon thread. Maybe in another thread too.. I also wrote about a funny creepy encounter with a Night Gallery prop at Universal Studios, years after the show ended.
I met Serling in NH at the college where his daughter Jodi was an incoming freshman. It was a funny scenario mostly because I was very stoned at the time. He, his wife and daughter were very gracious. They were also very short and of slight build. Jodi was a quiet, introverted girl who didn't stay at that school for a full year.
I enjoyed Night Gallery too but to me TZ and NG are like apples and oranges. TZ was a part of the still early commercial tv experimentation stage of evolution. There was still very limited programming, and the Cold War, Korean War, and WW II were recent, haunting memories. There were amazing creative voices writing for the still new medium of tv - some of whom really shaped the way folks internalized tv entertainment as a really novel personal in-home experience.
It spanned short theatrically staged dramas, low and high brow comedy, and innovative, fairly experimental showcases like Steve Allen's Tonight Show, Ernie Kovaks and Sid Caesar's shows.
And in the 50s tv began toying with the merging of great sci fi writing like Ray Bradbury gems with 50s reports of UFO sightings - that was a new genre and folks ate it up. Man, did it merge well with the lingering McCarthyism/Cold War overlay and mood of the era. Hell, we were having those nuclear war drills in our schools on a regular basis.
By the time Night Gallery was created tv had evolved so much - not least of which was color tv in a great many American homes, and a more sophisticated expectation from tv viewers who'd been exposed to a more diverse medium of tv programming and writing by then.
It's great there's such an archive of both shows available for such a Marathons as we're enjoying right now.
- Jeez - it's Kovacs not Kovaks! Stupid brain never remembers it correctly.
- "The Hunt" was just on. It's one of those sweet, gentle-natured episodes that brings a tear to the eye.
- [quote] that's my favorite episode, tied with Mirror Image
I thought I was the only one who loved "Mirror Image" - it's a TZ episode that rarely gets discussed but to me it's SO creepy and ominous.
There's another TZ episode about a parallel universe called "The Parallel", one of those hour-long episodes that rarely are shown, but it's just as eerie.
"And When The Sky Was Opened" is another really disturbing TZ episode.
Rod Serling seemed to like the theme of space exploration and how it could completely alter human life.
- Right now it's Connie Ford at her deliciously bombastic best: "Uncle Simon."
- Another of my lesser-known favorites is on now: "Ring-a-ding Girl."
- R511 Lesser known by who, exactly?
- Err..less known.
- Or "Err..lesser known TO..." and it should probably be whom not who in this case.
- R506 Much like Twilight Zone before it Night Gallery stuck out like a sore thumb. The Prisoner was arguably one of the first challenging/cerebral shows next to Twilight Zone.That came in the late Sixties and really defied the ITC formula. That was a very big game changer as well.By the time Night Gallery came around a paradigm shift did occur.Night Gallery continued Twilight Zone's pensive scifi stories albeit concentrating on horror. Supposedly the demos on Night Gallery(because of the horror content)were through the roof. HP Lovecraft was introduced to many through NG.
One more remarkable thing about Night Gallery were the production values. The sets,costume design and cinematography were arguably the best of its day on the small screen. No mean feat because of the anthology format with ever changing time periods and actors coming and going from each story. but producer Jack Laird knew how to squeeze that budget to make things look spectacular when the money was not that forthcoming from the studio.
- Why was a young, very handsome William Shatner married to a hag old enough to be his mother in the gremlin on the wing episode? I was very distracted by how old she looked sitting next to him.
- [quote] I was very distracted by how old she looked sitting next to him.
I...was...distracted...by that THING...on the WING! Did you see it, too!
- R515 great point about the innovative nature of The Prisoner. It pushed viewers into new territory.
That's a very intriguing observation about the climate for the subject matter of Twilight Zone and Night Gallery.
Serling had innovative peers at the outset of Twilight Zone and freewheeling geniuses like Ernie Kovacs doing mind blowing stuff that audiences hadn't seen before. Even where people resisted early Twilight Zone there were adult and kid sci fi fans and horror/fantasy fans hungry for it.
Great points about Night Gallery. At that point Serling was set up by some expectations that he couldn't succeed with such a post Twilight Zone project. In retrospect too, I can see how viewers had no great appreciation for the production values of the show.
- [quote] Dl fave "It's a Good Life" is next. It's a DL fave because it's a DLers dream. A petulant boy controls an entire town through magic powers which he uses to make others suffer. All live in fear of him.
- It's a Good Life must have had a profound effect on little Stephen King. So many aspects of the show turn up in his books. Cornfields, telekinesis, pyrokinesis, mindreading, a town cut off from the rest of the world, a child as the focus of evil, a leader with supernatural power, animals turned into monsters, animal abuse/killing, weather control, shapeshifting.
- R520, read R308.
- The Dick York (Bewitched) episode is on now where he can hear what people are thinking.
- "Black Leather Jackets", the second-worst episode next to odious "The Bewitchin' Pool" is about to start. This is the most dated and least "universal" of the episodes. I don't get why they show it every marathon.
- I remember they remade The Good Life back in the 80s. I think they also redid Kick the Can, about old people in a nursing home becoming kids again.
Those are the two I remember.
- Yeah, this leather jackets episode sucks...and not in a good way.
- The acting in the leather jacket one is atrocious.
- The classic "Five Characters In Search Of An Exit" is next. I wonder what the cast and crew thought of it once it was in the can?
- Is that the one with the clown and the soldier and the cowboy, etc? I won't give the surprise ending in case anyone hasn't seen that one.
- R528, yes.
- SyFy shows Twilight Zone on a regular basis during the week early in the morning. I have them recorded
they've shown some rare ones then.
- Could that clown be any queenier?
- [quote] Could that clown be any queenier?
- Were homeless dolls popular with children in the 50s?
- I mean I can understand the ballerina and the clown and the military doll, but what child is looking to play with a skid row doll?
- Ah, yes, the days when pilots smoked at will, and the wall of their cabinet was merely pegboard.
- Actor Paul Comi, who appeared in several TZ episodes (including "The Odyssey of Flight 33," airing right now as I post this) is still alive and has appeared in the past at TZ fan conventions. He was quite the hottie back in the day:
- Paul Comi today (he will be 83 next month):
- Those earphones are large enough to conduct electroshock with!
- R538, still looks great. He has a Cary Grant quality to him.
- He looks pretty good R538.
The guy playing Captain Farver was the used car dealer salesman on Psycho.
- [quoe]The Dick York (Bewitched) episode is on now where he can hear what people are thinking.
Al Parker took the plot of that episode and made it into an early gay porn called "One in a Billion." (NSFW)
- Anyone know if they played Lee Marvin's badass episode, "The Grave" yet? That was always a creepy little gem.
- The horrid "The Bewitchin' Pool" is about to start. Kill it with fire! A grease fire! This is the time for all you boys and girls to get something to eat.
- R543, The Grave is tomorrow morning at 1:30.
- "A Kind of Stopwatch" was remade into "A Little Peace and Quiet" in the TZ revamp. I liked it better than the original.
- The 7th Is Made Up of Phantoms is about some modern-day military men somehow getting caught up in Custer's Last Stand. It's spooky.
- "The Long Morrow" is another unforgettable episode, not on the schedule. It stars Mariette Hartley and Robert Lansing. The story managed to be poignant without being sentimental.
- I'll never stop wondering WTF they dubbed over her voice.
- Why do they show that horrible Aunt Tee episode? Nobody wants to see it.
- R544 for some reason I found that weirdly massive cake the kids frosted and later dug into, somewhat obscene.
Maybe it sucked all that was wrong about the episode into its sugary maw. Or maybe it's simply that other than as a base or lower layer of a wedding cake, you just don't see a basic layer cake of those proportions.
It was as though the cake took on a life force of its own. (Maybe it was just my desperate attempt to focus on something other than the plot and TKAMB's Scout's creepy dubbed voice.)
That said, the film Matilda did proud by such a sinister type cake, making no pretense that it was motivated by anything other than vindictive intent.
- R550, they're showing it now. It's called "The Bewitchin' Pool". Danger! Avoid, Will Robinson! It's horrid.
- "The Bewitchin' Pool" was the last TZ episode to be broadcast.
- R548, I love that episode too. I really love the early scene where Mariette Hartley and the astronaut first meet and how he talks to her and seduces her into having dinner with him. Even the music played over the scene is perfect.
- Sounds like Rocky the squirrel
- R554, why did you link to this thread?
- If you guys think "The Betwichin Pool" is bad, I saw one of the last episodes of "Night Gallery" last week, and some guy was running around in a gorilla suit. It looked beyond fake.
- A stupid mistake R556!
- Well link to what you meant to link to.
- As bad as "The Bewitchin' Pool" may be, I wouldn't remove it from the marathon only because bitching about it in our biannual TZ marathon thread has become part of the fun.
- Nah, that's ok, it doesn't really matter now R559.
- R554/R558/R561, you are obsolete!
- Two good ones on right now back to back:
Kick The Can and The Masks
- LOL R562! I'm honored to be insulted with one of my favorite TZ episodes.
- Did they play the one yet with the child who opens a mysterious door in his bedroom and ends up going to another dimension? It's been decades since I saw it, and I had a fever at the time (what mother lets a feverish kid watch TZ? lol).
Anyway, I seem to remember that they would hear the child's voice through the wall of his bedroom, and couldn't figure out where he had gone. I also have this memory of him them floating in orbit around the earth.
Did any of this happen in a particular episode? Or is the decades' old feverish memories of a child just bizarre nonsense?
- R565, that's "Little Girl Lost". They showed it this morning.
- Time for "The Masks"
[quote] Dying old man makes ungrateful relatives wear masks to reveal their true selves
- Thanks, R566! According to imdv, it is one of the best regarded episodes. Youtube has the full episode...will check that out tomorrow!
- Heehee, R562, was Fritz Weaver's extravagant, bellicose, scenery-chewing in that episode a lot of fun or what?
- "The Masks" features future "Laugh-In" resident queen Alan Sues!
- The dying father/grandfather looks like an older John Waters!
- R569, true and what a contrast to Burgess Meredith's cool, calm, calculating wisdom.
Weaver was also on another great TZ - Third From The Sun.
- The TZ episode "It's A GOOD Life" is based on the short story of the same name by Jerome Bixby. It really is one of the greatest short stories you'll ever read. In the story, it isn't specified that Anthony is a child at all; he's just this THING, this creature, who has the ability to create anything, destroy anything. He can read minds and he can show up anywhere, at any time. He's not human. When he was born the town of Peaksville was taken away from the world and floated in a "vast, endless grey nothingness like a soul." Either that, or Anthony had "destroyed the world, and left only the village, nobody knew which."
- It's Larry Tate!
- "The Masks" had the coolest old coot of a character Serling ever created. I loved the way he was giving his idiot relatives those backhanded insults....and they were too far up their own asses to even realize it at the time.
- The oldest daughter in "I Sing The Body Electric" looks familiar
- R576, I think it was Angela Cartwright, who later played Penny on "Lost in Space."
- I wish the Grandma robot would snap, and poison the family. This is just too saccheriney sweet. Yuck!
- It was Veronica Cartwright, R576.
- Oops, my bad -- R579 is correct. It was Veronica, not Angela.
- Too bad Talking Tiny wasn't Cristina Crawford's doll just so we could hear Joan Crawford tell her, "Talking Tina, do NOT fuck with me."
- Thanks r577 and r579
- The "Living Doll" episode with Telly Savalas is on now
- What kind of mother selects an abrasive, guido Telly Savalas and thinks "This man will make an excellent father?"
- R584, he was probably swinging a 10-inch dick the mother just couldn't get enough of!
- Am I wrong for wanting that doll to be destroyed?
- "My name is Talking Tina, R586. I think you would look good in a grease fire."
- We're going to need a new thread soon!
- r585, the mom looks like the type with her tight pants and tied up shirt.
- I usually mute the TV when commercials play but I do listen to the Geico one with Salt and Pepa.
- Burgess Meredith as Mr. Bemis!
- Yes, love the Salt N Pepa Geico commercial.
- What a Nazi cunt of a wife!
- First episode: "Where Is Everybody?" on now.
- Earl Holliman was handsome as a young man
- Gotta change the channel now: "The Howling Man" is next and I've never been able to sit through that episode. It's always been way too creepy for me.
Speaking of that episode 'THE MASKS':
The actor who played the dying father was Robert Keith. Two interesting things about him to note. One was that his son was Brian Keith of FAMILY AFFAIR, THE PARENT TRAP, HARDCASTLE & McCormick. The second bit of trivia is that he was once married to Peg Entwistle for a few years; that being her only marriage, Robert was married a handful of times. Entwistle is best remembered for her suicide. She was the 'failed' actress who jumped off of the original
H O L L Y W O O D L A N D
sign in 1932. Aside from Robert's ex-wife committing suicide so did his son as well as his granddaughter.
Now Brooke Hayward who played the vain, selfish, spoiled granddaughter in 'THE MASKS' was the daughter of recent post subject MARGARET SULLAVAN. SULLAVAN committed suicide on January 1, 1960 at the old Taft Hotel in New Haven, CT. SULLAVAN had 3 children with producer Lee Hayward, two of whom have also committed suicide. The first was Brooke's sister Bridget 50 years ago and then her brother Bill a few year's ago. The Fonda children were friends with the Hayward children, plus Henry was once married to Margaret Sullavan. Peter Fonda in particular had been close to Bridget Hayward and named his own daughter, actress Bridget Fonda after Brooke's sister.
- And on the w. coast they're playing "The Masks" at this moment. With that wonderfully grouchy old Robert Keith.
- New thread.
If you liked Holliman, how about Edson Stroll who was featured in two episodes ? Stroll was in 'Eye of The Beholder' where he is the young man who takes poor Janet (Donna Douglas) away to a place where other unfortunates live. On the other (I believe) called 'The Trade-Ins' he plays the rejuvenated version of the main man character.