Anyone else obsessed with this time period?
Sophia Loren, Claudia Cardinale, Anita Ekberg, Bridgette Bardot, Catherine Deneuve
Fellini, Godard, Truffaut, et. al.
Mid Century Modern design, Googie architecture
So much more. I love it all.
I love it, too. I think it was the last burst of style.
The Pan Am Show has this. Yes, it's fun.
Why no American style? Audrey Hepburn. Suzy Parker. Grace Kelly. Hollywood styles of Jean Louis, Edith Head and Givenchy (French but styled for American film.).
And what about Mainbocher, Balenchiaga and the glorious Pauline Trigere?
I agree with all of the names mentioned except Grace Kelly. She's country club pretty and kind of bland.
I'd consider Main Bocher more French couture than American. He started there and his style is definitely French.
Cristobal Balenciaga is also not American. Spanish but also moved to France early on.
Just because Balenciaga's protege, Givenchy, syled for American films doesn't make his style American. And who knows what Edith Head-labeled work was since she took credit for the work of others regularly.
As for Pauline Trigere, her earlier work was stunning. I have an out of this world original Trigere raw silk summer dress in a white and royal blue floral print. My most expensive purchase on eBay at the time. It has a cowl neck and a matching solid blue grosgrain belt. It also has a silk underskirt to make the skirt fuller. It still has the original price tag on it of $265.98. I originally thought the dress was circa 1960 but I found Trigere's drawings on line at the U of Kentucky School of Design and I've found that it matches the dress designs from 1948-1950. That was a lot of money then.
And don't forget Ursula Andress!
Not too long ago, they auctioned off various movie memorabilia items and they auctioned off Audrey Hepburn's dress that had a burst of yellow and orange roses on this very full, very 50's dress from Funny Face. The dress was just gorgeous! I think it sold for $60,000. That dress reflected an electric time that was fun, exciting, and elegant.
My mother misses those days because she said when you went shopping, to a movie, or to dinner, it was an event. She said it was a lot of fun getting dressed up for an outing. She missed going shopping to the city and wearing hats and gloves. Also, in those days she said service was fantastic. My mother said, simple department stores of all levels the service was great.One of the major things my mother greatly misses and adored were the dime stores. She misses the tiny dime stores where they sold cheap dishes and cute little odds and ends. She said the Christmas items were cheap in price, and they were really adorable stuff and fun! When I was a kid, I came around at the tail end of the dime store existence. the enormous stores like Target, Walmart, etc. were starting to take over. I too miss the dime stores greatly and I have fond memories of them.My mother hates these huge Walmart places because the charm isn't there and the wonderful bargains just don't exist like they use to.
My time - being a child in the 50s and a teen/early 20s in the 60s: Antonioni films like BlowUp, and Whats New Pussycat, the Beatles films, Midnight Cowboy and the rest ... great music every week, great style in design and clothes, and op art. and that chic 50s look of Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly, Suzy Parker et al.
The 70s and 80s were really hideous now when we look back at the styles and fashions then, and seem as dated as the 30s and 40s, whereas that 50s/60s style and look is timeless and will always be in fashion.
oh, sweetie, you are so late to the partie.
I dress in a 50s & 60s style and get compliments all of the time. I shop vintage and wear clothes that are 60 years old and made better than anything I could buy today, it's great. I don't do it to be cool, I do it because I honestly just love the style of that era- it's classic and will always look great.
Grace Kelley bland? Acting maybe but not stills.
Anyway yes I'm more than a bit obsessed about this era. I wish mens hats would come back in style. The movies and TV I watch are generally older stuff I get from Netflix.
I always think the film The Pumpkin Eater captures the 60s chic.
R6, my second paragraph stands alone. That means it is not connected to the first one. That means I was not indicating that the designers in my second paragraph were American.
Nevertheless, it sure gave you a platform to show how much you know about those designers, didn't it? I bet you are insufferable in person.
Luckily I was alive when women still got dressed and wore gloves and hats and men wore suits to baseball games. My mother grew up in NYC and I was born there so we visited frequently while I was growing up.
My fashion style was set in concrete at an early age (by 9 or 10 I knew how I wanted to dress despite my havng to wear a uniform) and it was a mix of either classic 50s/early 60s style or beatnik chic (skinny black pants/skirts with black tops). For a while I "demanded" a certain look and often we had to go into the city (we lived in Fairfield, Ct then) to find what I wanted in my size. I had a very patient mother.
I had an awful time in the late 60s and 70s since I really hated a lot of the mod stuff (tho some was okay) and absolutely hated almost all the hippie shit except for a few things.
Maybe I learned from my mom but I almost always dress decently when I go shopping and I usually get great service.
One of the reasons I love watching Mad Men.
Julie Christie, Imperial convertibles.
I love you for knowing what Googie is, OP!
Flying to Rome on Pan Am -- watching NY fade behind the plane while enjoying the crisp, cold Martini brought on a tray. Lighting a cigarette and opening a notebook to jot future plans in blue ink with a fountain pen.
The clothing for women was just so great in the 50's and 60's. I watch those shows/movies from the 60's and would still love to wear most of the clothes from that era.
What is R6 talking about and why are they chastizing themselves?
I like the European style but the Americans always looked so conventional, especially those awful early 60s motorcycle helmet hairstyles.
"My mother misses those days because she said when you went shopping, to a movie, or to dinner, it was an event. She said it was a lot of fun getting dressed up for an outing"
Getting dressed for an outing in those days involved girdles, painful shoes, bullet bras, teased and sprayed hairdos, makeup, etc. A woman could barely move without pain when she was all done up, which is why the feminists really did work to get women into clothes that didn't hurt.
Of course we have the worst of both worlds today, when the fashion ideal is a woman in a tatty baby-doll dress or a track suit, with agonizing 5" heels.
[quote]A woman could barely move without pain when she was all done up
Pain? Barely move? Really?
[quote]I dress in a 50s & 60s style and get compliments all of the time. I shop vintage and wear clothes that are 60 years old and made better than anything I could buy today,
The reason the particular clothes you have from the 50s and 60s survived is because they were well made. Common, poorly made clothing from those decades has not survived.
I have wonderful suits and jackets made for me on Savile Row in the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. They still look good and have held up beautifully. They were not cut to look like the trendy costumes that so-called fashion designers sell.
American born William Travilla designed amazing creations for Joanne Woodward both "From the Terrace" and "Signpost to Murder" as well as his own private label and couture house turned out some amazing garments that epitomize that era.
Ahhhh yes. By the 70's good taste had flown out the window in the U.S. and never to return. Now anyone in America who has a sense of style, some class, good taste is reviled as "elitist" and expected to apologize to the masses.
[quote]Getting dressed for an outing in those days involved girdles, painful shoes, bullet bras, teased and sprayed hairdos, makeup, etc. A woman could barely move without pain when she was all done up, which is why the feminists really did work to get women into clothes that didn't hurt.
Painful? Maybe the girdle.
At least they didn't look like they just rolled out of bed. Today some people are just painful to look at.
No one mentioned Jackie Kennedy
[quote]No one mentioned Jackie Kennedy
That's because scrambling onto the trunk of a limo is very unbecoming.
Everything is ugly now: ugly clothes, rude obnoxious people, no design or ugly design in everything, ugly politics, ugly crass tv, ugly stupid movies, rude coworkers & toxic workplaces, ugly art, shitty music, pollution and more pollution that no one is doing anything about, chemicals and hormones in food & selling rotten food etc etc
Oh, women were not in pain. Girdles may have been hard to get on but so are skinny jeans. And as unnatural as hair-sprayed hair looks, it's not painful. LOL!
Obviously a more natural look is nicer but you can still affect the look of the 50/60s in a natural or softened style.
You're right about how well made clothes were. I have a gorgeous coat from the late 30s - maybe early 40s - that was my father's. It's a light tweedy wool with a heavy khaki/camel colored cotton/linen interior - I think it was meant to be reversible. It has cuffs and a collar that shows some of the cotton lining and is impeccable. Now my father was not rich in those days and I can't imagine it cost him that much [there's no label] but damn it is still beautiful and I still wear it. I had to beg him to give it to me for years before he died.
I wish I didn't hate Martinis - I'm in the mood for one now. Maybe I'll just hold the glass.
Everything may be uglier R22, but as a black gay man, I'd much prefer to be alive now than in 1962.
Was Jackie Kennedy that stylish? Her clothing choices were pretty conventional and in line with what other rich white society women were wearing.
And R22 makes some good points.
Much prefer '40s style to '50s style. I find '40s clothes for both men and women much more glamorous and sensible. There is a theory that '50s modes for women were designed to "keep them home" after women had a taste of entering the working world during WWII.
'40s hair may have been fussier with snoods and 'rats' but most '50s women's hairstyles are dowdy and ugly (think Mamie Eisenhower). Only a few women could pull off the 'pixie' cut.
We live in barbaric times, R30. Popular culture, for whatever reasons, has been stuck for the last 20 to 30-odd years.
Yes, it has, R35. Stuck in something ugly - not interesting or inspiring.
It's why I live in Palm Springs. May not be the same as 40's & 50's, but it has hundreds of restored mid-century homes, great architectural bldgs.,
and many hotels, like the re-done Riviera, the Viceory, and the Parker,
that still have hints of a more glamorous time. I love it. Just knowing it was the Movie Star playground, when there were REAL movie stars, is fun.
[quote]Everything is ugly now: ugly clothes, rude obnoxious people, no design or ugly design in everything
I think that was what saved Apple - introducing actual design in a product after years of no attempt at any design, particularly in computers. The candy-colored iMacs drew lots of attention in a world of huge ugly beige boxes.
Same with Target, which rose while Kmart foundered. Even some of the most utilitarian items at Target have some element of design to them. It was enough to set Target apart and give it an identity distinct from Walmart, Sears, etc.
R31, you are so right about the quality of clothes.They weren't such a throw away dump society that we are now a days. When my mother was just a young kid back in the 50's, she would work and put clothes on layaway at inexpensive stores like Learners and Lance. To this day my mother kept this black corduroy jumper that was her favorite dress back then and she still just adores the dress. The quality is just fantastic! Not too long ago, I went to Nordstrom, and I was looking at this shirt that it was hundred dollars. I noticed that the lining of the shirt was very badly sewn like a 3 year old sewn it. There was a ball of threads and the shirt said, MADE IN CHINA! UGH! This is just insane!
BTW, if you go into old homes check out the closet size verses the size of clothes we have now. It really speaks for itself how materialistic we have become.
Makes me think of my mother's Herb Alpert and Sergio Mendes albums.
I remember after Christmas sales revolved around huge savings of gaudy costume jewelry. I remember the frantic surge of ladies, all dressed in hats and gloves, buying a years supply while I, dressed in a sailor suit, stood back and watched in amazement. Then back at home, there would be hours consumed trying on all of these treasures while Merv or Gypsy was on in the background.
Marcello Mastroianni, Anouk Aimée, Jeanne Moreau, Monica Vitti, Alain Delon, Annie Girardot, Maurice Ronet, Peter O'Toole, Jane Birkin, Jean Shrimpton, etc. 1960s Euroglamour and sophistication.
Preferred the 30's and 40's. Much more attractive and the suits the women in the forties were so well tailored. A friend of mine bought a suit in a vintage store. It's red gabardine and was so well made it still looks great and is still fashionable. She wears it to work a lot.
And r37 for the win.
Ballet: Tanaquil LeClercq in Afternoon of a Faun, Metamorphoses, La Valse.
Models: Suzy Parker. Carmen. Dovima.
what about the fashion and the women in the movie Valley of the Dolls. True 60's glamour!
Truly the last era of classic glamour and style. The onset of the 1970s permanently changed it all.
Definitely an eldergay theme.
I hate queens that obsess over 50's couture almost as much as gay republicans.
Can't you both die already?
Flying Continental to Honolulu, on the brand new 747, where in First Class we were served Moet champagne, in crystal flutes before we even took off. For the meal, a cesar salad to start, then comes a serving cart with both lobster tail, and chateaubriand, and ice cream, and fresh strawberries, or chocolate cake for dessert. After eating, we walk up the circular staircase, to the lounge, up in the bubble part of the plane, where there is a piano , with a man playing jazz tunes, and people sitting on a curved sofa, having cocktails.
Yes, it really was like this in 1969. Thank God I'm older.
In the 1950s folks dressed up to go to church, to fly on planes, and even somewhat to go to the movies. My mother always wore gloves when she dressed up and made her own suits, similar to Chanel suits or those worn by Jackie Kennedy. Today, anything goes--guys wear shorts and flip-flops in church and anywhere else they damn well please! Girls wear shorts that are alomost as short as panties to school, etc.
Those Names: Sophia Loren, Monica Vitti, Claudia Cardinale, Anouk Aimee, Julie Christie, Bond girls like Pussy Galore, 50s girls like Suzy Parker, the Grace Kelly / Audrey Hepburn look, Kay Kendall dressed by Balmain, Sandra Dee by Helen Rose - both in The Reluctant Debutante in 1958, Lauren Bacall and Dolores Gray both great in Designing Woman in 1957 - both by Vincente Minnelli; Romy Schneider, Capucine, Ursula Andress & Paula Prentiss in Whats New Pussycat in 1965 with that great Burt Bacharach score; the real Pan Am look in Come Fly With Me in 1963. Films like Charade, Arabesque, Darling, BlowUp, Modesty Blaise, Two For The Road, How to Steal A Million with Audrey and Peter in that little red car driving around Paris - as were Tony Perkins and Ingrid Bergman in Goodbye Again in 1961, and Jean Seberg in Bonjour Tristesse in 1958. The 1959 girls arriving at the office in The Best of Everything ... etc etc etc
The most glamorous couple ever driving a car: Marcello Mastroianni and Anouk Aimee in La Dolce Vita in 1960. Anouk Aimee too in Un Homme et Une Femme - the height of 60s chic in 1966.
Jean Seberg in her Yves St Laurent costumes which would still be the height of chic today, also driving her little red car in Moment to Moment, also 1966.
The op art designs and wacky costumes in Modesty Blaise, also 1966, with art house (not a dirty word then) favourites Monica Vitti, Dirk Bogarde and divine Terence Stamp.
1966 rules! It was also the year of Antonioni's Blow-Up, which took us all by storm.
That 60s era was the great decade of international cinema, when arthouse and commerce mixed. Your local cinema was showing films with european stars who were making American films, Loren won best actress oscar in a foreign language (her film Two Women was also popular of course in a dubbed version), Americans were financing British films and European directors like Antonioni, Polanski, Skolimowsi were making films in London, which was the centre of universe then.
1963's The Victors is a good example - this anti-war film has a raft of emerging european ladies like Romy Schneider, Melina Mercouri, Jeanne Moreau, Rosanna Schiaffino, Elke Sommer and Senta Berger, also with young actors Georges Peppard and Hamilton (when they were still interesting and attractive), Vince Edwards and the young Albert Finney, who also burst out that year with the award winning Tom Jones.
Tippi Hedren's tailored look, down to the gloves, in The Birds. Women must have worn gloves right into the mid 60s.
Its hard to find as its never been on vhs or dvd but I think TCM showed it recently, so may again: 1962's The Chapman Report with great style and costumes and interiors for Claire Bloom, Shelley Winters, Glynis Johns and that awful young Jane Fonda in her pre-Barbarella days. There's a raft of Warner Bros contract guys too: Chad Everett delivering the water in his tight pants, Ty Hardin in the spray-on shorts, Ray Danton, etc as gay George Cukor gives it that zing!
[quote]How to Steal A Million with Audrey and Peter in that little red car driving around Paris
I think it was an Autobianchi. I loved that movie when I was a kid. She looked so glamorous in all that Givenchy, especially that black lace get-up.
[quote]The most glamorous couple ever driving a car: Marcello Mastroianni and Anouk Aimee in La Dolce Vita in 1960. Anouk Aimee too in Un Homme et Une Femme - the height of 60s chic in 1966.
Anouk Aimee was adorable. In [italic]8 1/2[/italic], they tried to drab her down to play the wife. I think they even trimmed her eyelashes. But she still looked so cute.
Those glossy all-star early 60s entertainments like The VIPs and The Yellow Rolls Royce - which had Alain Delon who was making American movies then, among the all-star cast. Omar Sharif was good in it too, as was Jeanne Moreau and Ingrid Bergman.
What a dinky little car, thanks. I always fantasised I would be driving around London in a new mini, or a yellow Wolkswagon ... or that silver Aston Martin.
Yes they even gave Anouk those severe spectacles in 8 and a half. She is fantastically glamorous in Justine in 1969 with those arabic fashions and young Michael York. But she wasn't really interested in acting and preferred to be off with her new husband, one Albert Finney. She retured to the movies though when they divorced in 1976 and she is still working now and still glamorous.
I love the Bossa Nova/Samba music that became popular in the U.S.
One of my all time favorites that really captures the sound and mood of a part of the 60s:
The fabulous Samba Saravah sequence from Un Homme et Une Femme - A Man and a Woman - in 1966, this was brilliantly edited with the film cut to the music and Anouk Aimee and her then husband Pierre Barouh are one of the most glamorous couples ever ... no one has this allure today. The movie had a great soundtrack by Francis Lai which I used to have as a vinyl album. It was one of the big hits of the time.
I still love samba and bossa nova too - Sergio Mendes & Brazil 1966; Antonio Carlos Jobim songs like "Wave" and I never tire of the original "Girl from Ipanema" - Astrud Gilberto albums and compliations are ideal too, with that cool almost abstract voice. "Shes a Carioca" ...
I love that early 60s American glamour too in those Lana and Susan sudsers like Portrait in Black, Back Street, By Love Possessed, The Chapman Report, and the Troy Donahue items like Parrish, Susan Slade, Rome Adventure. Ross Hunter was the king of these of course - Midnight Lace too and the Rock and Doris items like Lover Come Back. Minnelli's Two Weeks In Another Town in 1962 captures the La Dolce Vita era in Rome too.
Europe though by the mid 60s was the place to be and set the fashion pace, with the scenes going on in London, Rome and the others.
60s glamour in a nutshell is provided by 'That Man From Rio' a 1964 comedy caper with Jean Paul Belmondo and Francoise Dorleac - its set all over Brazil, then becoming fashionable in the 60s with that new city Brasilia and the bossa nova music. Belmondo is a stunning action hero doing all his own stunts - the likes of Cruise and Renner and those other CGI action heroes should see it and weep.
I'd love to live on a street filled with this kind of architecture.
[quote]I dress in a 50s & 60s style and get compliments all of the time.
Obviously you don't know the difference between a compliment and sarcasm..
Example: It looks good on YOU
The best era that ever was.
R32, I agree with you 100%. I am of Gypsy Italian descent, and darker skinned. Wow, the stories my family could tell about those ...ahem..."good old days". I'm sure you can understand in a way others can't.
Good old days? Yeah, riiiiiight.
If you don't like the way clothes are made today, you can always do what my mom and grandmom did back then: learn to sew and make your own clothes.
Quit yer bitchin' and change your priorities. Stay home, forget the mall and the electronic gadgets. Then you will have the time and money to learn to sew. Otherwise, shut up. Don't wanna hear it. You got a choice to make, you can't have it both ways.
r30 People are less ugly today. Think of the significantly fewer homophobes, sexist, and racist in society.
Went up to Los Angeles to see plays. Actually saw Edward G. Robinson and his pal, Sam Jaffe in the audience of a Frederic March/Mona Freeman starrer, "Middle of the Night" by Paddy Chayefsky. Also saw Tennessee Williams' "Sweet Bird of Youth". I remember the audience laughing when Geraldine Page, as Alexandra, called out for more oxygen. Also there were fun musicals like "Dames at Sea".
I was in the U.S.N., and saw one of my boot camp recruit acquaintances in the audience at an LA show. I still remember the look on his face as he saw me after the play. He didn't greet me. He must have been at a loss for words. He wasn't, at boot camp, however, as he then said something sexy to me as we marched.
didn't know what gay was back then
It definitely was America at it's peak. Great hair styles, clothes, cars, homes, and music. Our industrial base was booming and anyone who wanted a job could find one. Then came President LBJ, the Great Society, Vietnam, the Beatles, the drug culture, and the downhill slide. Beauty and good taste all but disappeared.
And by "America" r78 means white male America. OP is probably in National Harbor, MD, with his GOProud sisters, hoping to get a peek at the fun they're having at CPAC.
This era ends with VALLEY OF THE DOLLS.
I love the on the cusp area between the more polished style before and naturalism that came after. Simple but elegant - that's why it looks better than the 30s/40s and 70s/80s.
Grace Kelly most definitely is an important part.
And the films of this era were great.
THE BEST OF EVERYTHING!
An element of exuberance and playfulness was sucked out of design about 30 years (?) ago. I looked at the cars in my office parking lot--every last one was a shade of grey or brown. You might see a red truck from time to time, but even those are rare.
Someone in an American Studies program might be able to tie this somberness to a national mood. I wouldn't dare, although I think there is something significant about the resurrection of a very puritanical style.
Yes. Those were my "salad days". (look it up young-uns)
The general trend nowadays is either utilitarian or outrageous. Both of which, I find totally boring.
As Lena Horne would say: "Thank God, I'm not young anymore!"
Sometimes I start thinking of the swinging sixties as the epitome of modern glamour... and then I remember the horrible fucking hairstyles! Sure, the clothes were sharp and the décor interesting, but the fashionable women all had these huge, brittle, fraying wads of hair on their heads.
I challenge any lover of that era to defend those hairstyles!
Big hair became popular around 1962, reaching its zenith around '64 - '65, with every glamour girl piling on the wiglets, postiches, cascades, and falls to get that hair outrageously higher and higher. Do an image search of Elke Sommer and see what I mean. That's why the mod fashions of the mid-60s, as exemplified by Twiggy and Jean Shrimpton, were such a breath of fresh air. They either wore their hair short or long and straight, unencumbered by all that teasing and spraying. But while the youth were opting for looser hairstyles, the aging glamour girls weren't giving up on the big hair so easily. They needed that hair to hide all the elastic tape, pins and clamps pulling their faces tight.
What a crew, R87. Is that a very stoned Jayne Mansfield on the left?
R88, Jayne, Mamie Van Doren, Tommy Noonan, and his wife Foopy.
[quote]why the mod fashions of the mid-60s, as exemplified by Twiggy and Jean Shrimpton, were such a breath of fresh air.
I remember those days. Carnaby Street. The most unusual clothes. I thought Jean Shrimpton, the Yardley girl, was breathtaking. Twiggy turned everything on its ear.
On my first trip to London in the 70s, I found Woolwich Park where the famous scene from Blow Up was filmed and cavorted around on Super 8.
Biba Department Store was the thing, along with the Great American Success on Kensington High St. I found the Sombrero Club and met some guys there, but had to leave for New York and it was a long time before I went back.
The image that sums up London for me at that time, is a beautiful girl with bright red lips, inside the rain-streaked window of a black cab as it moved slowly past and our eyes locked for a few seconds.
"Oh my God. I'm back. I'm home. All the time, it was... We finally really did it ... You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"
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