Annual DL Holiday We Hate the Film "Love. Actually" Thread
I'm surprised "noone" have posted this yet. Go on then, spew. Let the hate go forth.
The fact that it was written by Richard Curtis is enough to keep me away from Curtis' latest screenplay "War Horse".
Well that and maybe that John Williams did the music, too.
The truth, actually, is the what Williams does to music Curtis does to words.
It's actually a pretty good movie, if you're in the right mood for the record-breaking levels of sentimentality.
I shudder to think what a bad imitation would be like, so I haven't seen that "New Year's" film.
Actually, love (see what I did there?) I think it's a sweet film and enjoyed watching it the two or three times it has been aired here in the UK.
I'm sorry, OP, that you are so jaded and cynical - it must be a pretty miserable life you have going on there.
Lamest bit - the 2 naked actors who fall in love.
Well, I just can't take Laura Linney's dancing.
I watched it yesterday, Love Actually and The Family Stone are my 2 annual Christmas movies.
All I remember when I watched it when it first came out I hated it and LL didn't look very good in her nude scene...
Depends on my mood. I saw it at the cinema just before Christmas when it originally came out and being full of whiskey and soda, I enjoyed it and had a warm fuzzy feeling afterwards.
However, the passage of time has done nothing to convince this film is good cinematographic entertainment, but rather chick flick material for a rainy day.
Actually, I enjoy this film around this time of year.
I loved Bill Nighy and the little boy, but the rest of it was mostly annoying with occasional laughs.
Other than Kiera Knightly's horseshit, I like the movie.
Saw it again recently. I still find it weirdly misogynistic.
It had some good parts. I actually thought the Hugh Grant one was funny though the porn stand-ins were a wtf. Bill Nighy, great.
Meh. It's no "Love, Indubitably."
It's treacly stuff but if you want something truly bad, sentimental, AND Christmas-themed, try "The Holiday".
Love the airport opening.
I've never gotten the "Imitation of Life"-style high hysteria for the "Emma Thompson gets a Joni Mitchell CD" scene. I was unimpressed with the movie upon its release, but that's because it seemed like poor relation to Four Weddings and a Funeral. Also, I don't like the totally one-note Hugh Grant, who's the same in each and every role he plays. (If that's not redundant.)
I was annoyed that the lesbian story (Anne Reid and whatshername - frances de la tour) was cut out of the final print, at least its on the dvd extras (one if them is dying, naturally).
Curtis' last film "the boat that rocked" was such a bomb that it has surely killed off these gruesome films of his. It was on television here in England the other day, I did not even want to see it.
Can't imagine he got the gig to do the script on "War Horse" ....
r20 -- Of course he got the gig to do the "War Horse" script.
"Four Weddings and a Funeral" was one of the highest grossing films in British history.
Although it is amazing that man who helped write "Black Adder" could also be the man who "Love, Actually."
And I have to say that those 9/11 airport scenes in "Love, Actually" actually wanted to make me fly a plane into a building.
But having said all that -- Curtis was extraordinarily hot in his earlier years.
I love this movie, holiday classic.
Its message seemed to be: "If you're a beautiful and skinny young woman, like Keira Knightley you'll be happy forever, but if you're not, like Laura Linney or Emma Thompson, you'd better get used to being unwanted."
Whether that's true of life or not it seemed deeply bizarre in a movie that was so sentimental about its male characters, who all seemed to find love no matter what shape or age they were.
23 responses and I'm the frst one to post about how Rodrigo Santoro is virtually the only reason to watch this piece of shit? Sure, Bill Night is funny, and even Hugh Grant is amusing. But the sexism and idiocy (falling 'in love' with a woman with whom you've never had a conversation? four attractive american girls hit on one majorly fugly guy?) ruin it for me.
It's the CRASH of romantic comedies.
It was while watching "Love, Actually" that I realized two things. One, that Alan Rickman is NOT one of those actors that I would watch just anything he's in just to see him (I tried fast-forwarding just to his parts, but soon found that fast-forwarding through his parts was less painful than actually watching them.) Two, that Ben Elton was the real genius behind the "Blackadder" series, NOT Richard Curtis.
I like it.
"... though the porn stand-ins were a wtf..."
I just saw this movie for the first time the other day on ABC Family. And I just realized that Martin Freeman was listed in the credits but wasn't in the movie I saw at all. Is there a story about a porn movie within the movie? How is that connected to the other characters?
R24, I'm totally with you on the rodrigo love boat. Hot as he'll! It's the best part. That said, I did like the movie and all it's sappiness. Sometimes I just don't need much to fulfill me...
The little boy in it is incredibly creeping. He was more suited to THE OMEN than this, he should have been a really cute looking kid.
I like it - but not at first in the theater - it seemed to forced. It took a 2nd and 3rd viewing to grow its charms.
Now I see it differently with the sudden passing of Liam Neeson's wife. Wouldn't wish that on anyone, but playing the widower with young children is actually his life now.
I could not get past the first 5-10 minutes. It was horrible. When the British do corny, it is just as bad, if not worse, than a bad American film.
r28, you just made me realize that I haven't seen the porn actors story line in years. It must have been totally axed for family viewing on the non-premium channels.
Didn't even miss it. Too bad they can't lob off the ugly guy with the American girls bit, too.
For the absolute last time it's not a porn movie they're doing. They are stand-ins/body doubles on a big budget feature. Porn films never have stand-ins/body doubles, it's not in their budget.
What was weird about the Emma Thompson-Alan Rickman story, aside from that weird Elf Quest woman who seduced him, was that the filmmakers felt that the right note to end it on was Emma deciding to hide her feelings and pretend everything was all right. I just thought, right, and the very next fight she has with him she's going to throw it right in his face that he spent a fortune on his piece of ass last Christmas and tried to fob her off with a crappy CD. And then next thing he's going to be shacked up with the elf maiden, who'll no doubt be knocked up with an elfling, while Emma's lawyer arranges to take half his assets.
Hugh Grant as the Prime Minister??
Yeah, so believable.
Bill Nighy is the reason to see this film.
I finally saw it for the first time this year, and really enjoyed it. Except for Hugh Grant, who is loathsome in everything since "Four Weddings & a Funeral." Because, as someone posted, he is one-note and untalented.
Piece of crap. I don't get the love for it at all.
I really liked it.
for a feel-good holiday movie, some of the stories don't end too happily for some of the characters.
R4, I am jaded and cynical but I actually enjoy this film for what it is: a light, frothy entertainment without deep meaning. There's typically an annual "Love, Actually" hate thread on DL, so I thought I might as well start it despite my enjoying it.
It has some actors I truly enjoy (Alan Rickman, Emma Thompson, Bill Nighy, Liam Neeson) in roles they seemed to enjoy and which they recognize are light. The kid sub plot is fine, and he's a good little actor. Hugh Grant is one note but he played that note well as the PM. His dancing bit was cute. I also thought he did an excellent twist on his one note in About a Boy. Rickman's delivery of the "something in the stationery line" is surprisingly one of the funniest bits.
The sour note for me is Laura Linney. I think she's overrated and was unsuited to this role. The so-called "porn" stand ins and her sub plot were the unnecessary and lowest points of the film. I only ever thought she was good in the John Adams mini-series where she was well cast and did an admirable job as Abigail.
Bill Nighy alone is a reason to see this film. Just fast-forward through all the other parts; he is irresistible.
Halfway through watching the film for the first time, I told my partner that I'd really enjoyed my relationship with him, but now I'd found the man of my dreams in Bill Nighy's character and had to leave him (my partner).
Not overly fond of Hugh Grant's acting but I loved him in 'About a Boy' which is one of my favourite comfort films. Nick Hoult of course stole the show in that film and then turned into major totty.
Anyone who says "actually" deserves the AID
Love the bit with Rickman and Atkinson in the store; love Thompson and Rickman in the gift giving scene; thought Kiera and Andrew with the cards at the door was very good; love Nighy; love Rodrigo; loved Hugh's bodyguard singing at the door and Hugh's face. Thought the young girl singing at the Christmas play was good.
Hated Liam and Claudia standing there with their 'Starbuck's coffee; thought Hugh's girlfriend was a joke; thought Firth falling in love with his maid was ridiculous; hated Linney's character; hated Denise Richard's cameo; Hugh = meh.
You know it's a bad film when you don't like the always good Laura Linney.
This is the first time I have seen that beautiful Latino actor. I'm STILL waiting for him to do a good nude scene....
Sorry, if Love, Actually doesn't have room for a gay storyline, then I don't have room for it.
Love it and watched it again last night. There were a few too many stories. Would have been better if more time had been given to deepen some of the better story lines.
Is EVERY A-list Brit actor in this movie?
That plot with the actors doing the porn (or non-porn) voice-overs was stolen from another movie anyway. Something with Bob Hoskins in it.
For those of you aren't watching the SNL Lindsay Lohan potential train wreck, Love Actually is on ABC Family now.
It's on HBO and everything on this thread is right. It is weirdly misogynistic. And how long has Liam Neeson's wife been dead and he's telling his kid he wants to have sex with Claudia Schiffer in his kid's room? And women just throw themselves at schlubby guys? And the prime minister goes after a 22 year old secretary?
Me too R7, plus I add Bad(der) Santa to the mix.
I fucking hate this movie with the heat of a thousand suns. The misogyny and sexism is overwhelming.Even Hugh Grant and Liam Neeson can't save this POS.
I have never seen this movie but have enjoyed the annual threads here.
If you expect a good movie, it sucks.
If you have the foresight to expect a nothing movie, it has some very pleasant and beautifully acted moments (Emma Thompson recovering from Alan Rickman's fucking with her mind)
Or when Kiera Knightly is doing her duck face as she watches herself in her wedding video (doing duck face) and she says "Oh this is paaarfect" "Oh I look raaahther pretty." "Oh thank you this is jaaast lovely."
Or when the little Satanic kid runs through airport security and you're praying for someone to tase him?
If you want sweet, funny British Christmas movie, watch Bernard and the Genie. It's about 20 years old and looks cheap by today's (and american) standards but the jokes are funny, it's entertaining and warm. Starring Alan Cumming, Lenny Henry and Rowan Atkinson.
This wasn't "upped" for the holidays. Surprised.
This movie is like a bowel movement that has become sentient and crawls into your mouth. The zombies on my new show are somehow less repulsive.
What? Nobody mentioned that they liked my performance in this movie? Do you know what incredible acting talent it takes to fuck that fugly Kris Marshall?
Excuse me, I have to go call Don and tell him to send Sally home so I can beat the hell out of her.
This excellent article perfectly sums up why it's a terrible movie.
I read that review. Can someone get him a Midol?
I want him to review Anniston's movies and post directly to DL.
Thanks for posting that, R60.
Even though I can't stand romcoms I tried to watch it once, thinking, well, this was one of the cowriters of Blackadder. I'd forgotten about Blackadder series one.
This film is schmaltzy and horrid, but I am drawn to it every time it's on.
I like it!
Gotta love the Atlantic, R60. Agree with every word -- except for the kid. Painful.
Can't wait to see what this guy has to say about that great "romance," "50 Shades of Gray."
Romantic comedies are embarrassing.
Vile, vulgar garbage. I loathed it at the time when someone made me watch the DVD.
Ok, I'm a sap.
I enjoy it.
Of course, I also watched "The Yearling" today for a wallow.
I like it too
I actually did a search for it to out it in my DVR for holiday viewing. I just can't help it, I love it...
Sangster, loved him in his Doctor Who episodes, will be some hot ginger a decade from now.
I love it. That little girl singing always makes me weepy.
That movie is a PABLUM APOCALYPSE.
I hated Love Actually because there are just too many characters in that movie. It looks like they tried to squeeze as many stars as possible into the script and in the end I just didn't care for any of them.
I prefer some European movies which were obviously trying to imitate Love Actually (like Polish "Listy Do M." or Dutch "Alles is Liefde") but they actually surpassed it, mainly because there are less characters in them and you get to know them better. I especially liked "Listy Do M." aka "Letters to Santa".
I like it. It's a perfect Christmas movie for me - I get very sentimental and depressed. This movie goes through its own highs and lows and helps me feel balanced afterward.
My favorite line was the Emma Thomson character saying "Joni Mitchell taught your cold English wife how to feel" and then knowing what she was feeling when she opened the CD. Emma said she conjured up her feelings from when her marriage to Kenneth Brannagh was ending for that scene. I always figured she'd (the character) decided to divorce the Alan Rickman character when she was picking him up at the airport.
The "Love, Actually" Wars are quite the thing this year, aren't they?
[quote]Vile, vulgar garbage. I loathed it at the time when someone made me watch the DVD.
Someone MADE you watch it? Oh Dear.
Are there any more scheduled broadcasts of L.A. before Xmas this year? How have I missed it? Viewing it (and love/hating it) is an annual holiday event for me!
The yearling and war horse?
I sort of like it, although I can't even begin to justify why. (Well, Emma Thompson.) But one of the things that creeped me out was Laura Linney calling her brother "darling" and "my love" all the time. WTH? Who does that??
R82, it sounded weird because she's American and we don't talk the same way Brits do. That's one of my biggest issues with this movie. Well, that, and her constantly answering the phone especially when the lucky, undeserving bitch gets Rodrigo in her bed.
I love/hate this film as well, but Laura Linney is the worst thing in this film. I don't like her mannered acting at all.
Watching a DVD of this on a cold rainy afternoon in New England.
Not sure I am going to finish it. Don't care about any of these characters.
I liked the Kiera storyline. She thinks Andrew Lincoln (pre-fixed teeth) is in love with his best friend, the groom.
my favorite Christmas movie
I finally watched the whole movie on Netflix. I started watching it several years ago, but this was the first time I finished it.
My God, what a piece of shit.
It's a horrible travesty of a film.
[quote] It's a horrible travesty of a film.
But it's got a good beat and it's easy to dance to.
Watched it for the first time finally a couple of nights ago. My God, what a vile piece of garbage. Truly. Loathed every frame of it. Unfunny, unromantic, forced and dull. Some great actors made to look absolutely foolish and uninteresting.
Horrid, sick making treacle. Squirmed my way through it once and don't plan to watch it again.
Andrew Lincoln and Rodrigo Santoro are hot! I love this movie.
This thread is why I love DataLounge.
[quote] This thread is why I love DataLounge.
R95, all I want for Christmas is you!
Thanks to this thread I watched it last night. It's on Netflix streaming.
It wasn't so bad that I had to turn it off. I wanted to see all the parts talked about here. The review at R60 pretty much explains why it's a ridiculous movie.
But what the heck -- it's nice that some people on DL love it. It's what makes the world go 'round.
Rodrigo Santoro was an appealing diversion. If I was Laura Linney I would have bribed the doctor to load up the brother with Thorazine so I could have had a proper go at Rodrigo.
I like this film but I abhor Laura Linney in all she does except the Adams series.
Horrid little movie. That ghastly, bug eyed, child is THE WORST part of the movie. Him running past security makes me ill. I was hoping they would shoot him, preferably in his ugly face.
Hugh Grant's opening line about people phoning their loved ones from the planes that hit the twin towers is the most grotesque and sick manipulation of a cinema audience’s feelings that I’ve ever seen since Leni von Riefenstahl’s Triumph of the Will.
[quote] Hugh Grant's opening line about people phoning their loved ones from the planes that hit the twin towers is the most grotesque and sick manipulation of a cinema audience’s feelings that I’ve ever seen since Leni von Riefenstahl’s Triumph of the Will.
But Leni did it with less stuttering and more elan.
[quote]Or when Kiera Knightly is doing her duck face as she watches herself in her wedding video (doing duck face) and she says "Oh this is paaarfect" "Oh I look raaahther pretty." "Oh thank you this is jaaast lovely."
Or when she giggles "You've stayed rather close, haven't you?" (re: Andrew Lincoln's camerawork) and sounds posher than the Queen.
Hugh Grant in this actually feels a bit like a bachelor version of David Cameron.
R103 And this was several years before anyone knew about him (when he became the Tory leader)
At the time he probably seemed vaguely like Blair but then Britain had entered Iraq and Blair's image had morphed from golden boy to mad-eyed warmonger, so maybe not.
Sloane Ranger Keira Knightley of course marries a black man (Chiwetel Ejiofor) in this oh-so-politically correct mush-fest. BBC Three or Four once had this program called "Peckham Finishing School" where 4 insufferable rah-rah girls went to stay with some chav girls in Peckham (a rough part of London) and at one point one of them says their dad would hit the roof if she ever brought a black boyfriend home.
R105 not to mention the Prime Minister marrying some secretary from skid row. PLEASE. A bachelor would never be elected in the first place.
[quote]A bachelor would never be elected in the first place.
R107, was he a GAY?
Just finished watching this as a part of my annual xmas eve tradition. All I can say is: What a bunch of Scrooges here!
Although I am second to none in my hate for this season, I always feel a little better after watching.
R107, those were pre-"family values" days.
R108 From Wikipedia:
[quote]John Campbell, who published a biography of Heath in 1993, devoted four pages to a discussion of the evidence concerning Heath's sexuality. Whilst acknowledging that Heath was often assumed by the public to be gay, not least because it is "nowadays ... whispered of any bachelor" he found "no positive evidence" that this was so "except for the faintest unsubstantiated rumour" (the footnote refers to a mention of a "disturbing incident" at the beginning of the Second World War in a 1972 biography by Andrew Roth). In 2007, Brian Coleman, the Conservative Party London Assembly member for Barnet and Camden, claimed that Heath, in order to protect his career, stopped cottaging for gay sex in the 1950s. Coleman claimed it was "common knowledge" among Conservatives that Heath had been given a stern warning by police when he underwent background checks for the post of Privy Councillor. Heath's biographer Philip Ziegler writes that Coleman was able to provide “little or no evidence” to back up this statement, that no man has ever claimed to have had a sexual relationship with Heath, nor is any trace of homosexuality to be found in his papers, and that “those who knew him well” insist that he had no such inclination. He believes Heath to have been “asexual”. Charles Moore's authorised biography of Margaret Thatcher states that Bill Deedes believed that Thatcher “seem(ed) convinced” Heath was homosexual, whilst Moore believes it is “possible” that Thatcher’s reference, in interview in 1974, to Heath not having a family, was a deliberate hint that he was gay, in order to discredit him. In 2014, Jeremy Norman, owner of the chain 'Soho Gyms' and friend of Heath, claimed that Heath was "most likely gay".
R109 I agree with you.
It's a romantic comedy. There's no deep philosophical meaning, it's just fun and one of my Christmas traditions too.
I love it.
Me too. Watching it has become an annual tradition in our family. Saw it this morning and now I can't get that song out of my head, "I feel it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes….." LOL
I thought New Year's Eve was garbage but amusing when a little drunk. Would This work the same way?
I just saw it tonight, Christmas night, due to the DL buzz, though I haven't read the thread yet, I wanted to post thoughts as they came to me.
I thought the Brit that came to Minnesota and found 4 hots American girls must be being set-up for a robbery, not an escapade. Then later I figureed the film must have been made for a British audience with no idea what American girls are really like.
One fun thing about seeing a 10 year-old movie for the first time, is picking out all the actors who went on to success. The sheriff from the Walking Dead was HOT as a young man!
Then their were the actors that disappeared, seamingly.
Bill Nighy's performance made me wish I was 12 years old again. I might have enjoyed it at that age. That and "fart" jokes.
Well, overall, I think I am grateful that I will never have to watch that again.
I did like Emma Thompson's performance. Also, Colin Firth and his GF were cute. Even if unbelievable, it IS a romantic comedy, after all. I do like the head-fake with Andrew Lincoln suggested to be pining for his best pal.
Rodriguez got better and better with each scene, which left me wanting more. It was rather stupid that these two adults might work together, like each other, each know it, and not, well, have coffee? Is that too much to ask? Here's the fix for that mess of a sub-plot - after the botched one-night stand, he pokes his head into her office, and asks her if she'd like to get coffee. Then it becomes less about sex only, but more about "I like you". That fixes the whole cluster-fuck.
Mr. Bean was good. The rest, should have been left on the cutting rioom floor. At 2h 15m it could have been cut down some place.
Laura Linney, who I think is horrid, is at her worst in this film.
I've never seen it, but Greg Gutfeld talks about how much he hates it at least 10 times a year. He did a whole segment about his hatred of the film on his Christmas Eve show.
R116 What are they like?
God, what a bunch of Scrooges you all are. It's a fluffy little feel good Christmas movie. Of course none of the stories pass the 'reality' test, but so what? Suspend disbelief just a little...you bitter old cranks. Relax and enjoy the magic of the season.
It's a terrible movie! What else is there to say? The dreadful attempt by Colin Firth a speaking Portuguese is something he should be ashamed of for the rest of his life. He seems like a nice guy and should have said no, I cannot do it.
As for the filmmakeers, they should have stopped at Notting Hill, which was the successful version of this tripe.
I hate this movie so much I cannot go through this thread.
Clearly written by a man. No woman EVER would stop a make out session with a mind blowingly hot Brazilian. Also, what's the bullshit with the women being in service (maid/cleaner, secretary, assistant) positions? Is that all the writers can imagine women to be?
Yeah, that was frustrating, R126. WTF didn't she just turn off her phone? It's not like the nutter brother wouldn't survive if she didn't pick up EVERY damned time he calls. And why would the caregivers at the hospital even allow him to call her so obsessively?
R122, American girls do not travel in pacts on 100% hotness and collectively throw themselves as a group, sober, onto any ugly stranger of no means in the course of an evening.
As I mentioned, the entire thing is believable, if instead of bedding him, they robbed him; [italic]that[/italic], would be believable. American girls aren't all dishonest, but they are all smart. They might instead have somehow found his presumption to be so ridiculous and rude, that they found some other way to make a fool of him. But bedding him? They might as well have been Martians. It strains credibility too much.
[R122], American girls do not travel in pacts
In Warsaw they do.
[quote]American girls do not travel in pacts on 100% hotness and collectively throw themselves as a group, sober, onto any ugly stranger of no means in the course of an evening.
Of course I realise that in real life a group of stunners wouldn't go completely gaga over some random average English bloke just because of his accent. But I thought you were maybe suggesting American girls are unapproachable or not to be trusted.
God I kept waiting for the robbery/joke/set-up whatever too! It simply couldn't be that Curtis would actually write that the Fuggo from the BT ads goes to some bar in Bumfuck, Minnesota and finds three goddesses with nothing better to do than screw him.
I mean, I'm sure that whole segment was just meant to be a joke rather than a believable scenario but it wasn't actually funny.
"the Fuggo from the BT ads goes to some bar in Bumfuck, Minnesota and finds three goddesses with nothing better to do than screw him."
Have you ever been to the less interesting parts of Minnesota in the winter? There IS nothing better to do there.
R133 But would you find 3 beautiful women there? Or would they have gotten out and moved somewhere bigger and better as soon as they could?
Being a traveller, it's hit or miss. You may meet gorgeous women, or you may meet really weird people (including weird women). The crazy is always sort of part of the experience, but there's nice crazy (and attractive), and the unpleasant one.
R135 But people who go "travelling" (personally I think it's just a glorified holiday) don't usually go to Milwaukee.
[quote] But people who go "travelling" (personally I think it's just a glorified holiday) don't usually go to Milwaukee.
There's a (contrived, of course) conversation in the film as to why Milwaukee is chosen.
"Love, Actually" is actually a chick flick for dudes.
I mean, on what planet would the fuggo get 3 attractive women to bed? The middle-aged men all get younger women who wait on them and clean up after them ... Rickman, who is no beauty, has a much younger secretary pining after him. The whole movie is a fairy tale for middle-aged mid-life crising hetero males.
[quote]And why would the caregivers at the hospital even allow him to call her so obsessively?
That's what I said to my friend. No way a hospital would give unfettered access of a phone to a mental patient.
I can't watch it because I just can't imagine the bride storyline ending any other way that with Egg from This Life raping Keira Knightley and wearing her as a skin suit.