Amazon Prime

For $80 a year, sounds like a good deal.

I've done it for a couple of years now. Not only do I get "free" shipping on most of what I buy at Amazon, I have a Roku and I watch movies and cable TV shows using Prime and Netflix. It's a lot cheaper than cable and I get to pick and choose what I want to see.

What's a roku?

It's a small device that streams via wifi.

R1 is an obvious shill for Amazon.

I'm having a hard time finding any good free Kindle books to download.

For me it's paid for itself in postage many time over, but most useful is that can usually ensure things arrive on days when I'm going to be in to recieve them.

Because I have Amazon Prime, it's really shocking how much I buy from them. Books, music, small appliances, pantry items, home decor, vitamins... I haven't gone holiday shopping in years -- I order from Amazon, cheaper than I can find it in stores, and have everything shipped to friends across the country for free, in two days.

I must make 2 to 3 purchases a week from them.

I had always shopped with Amazon, but Prime made it even more worthwhile. As an example, I have Breeze litter boxes for my cats and I buy quantity refills through Amazon. Very convenient.

I use it. I love not having to pay shipping for each purchase, and they do sell almost everything.

Love it. Also agree with others. I'm more likely to buy from Amazon and use Prime for most anything. It's even better when you can find Amazon Marketplace vendors who use Prime too. I wish there were more of those.

Plus, them letting you "borrow" one book a month for Kindle is just gravy, but I think you need an actual physical Kindle to take advantage of it.

I've been a member for a little over 2 years now. I order from them almost weekly so the free 2-day shipping pays for itself within a month or so then the rest of the year is free.

Is that a new transformer?

Yes, it's worth it. Not only for Roku streaming, Kindle and shipping, but for the fact that you can share your membership with family members. I like the fact that my Dad doesn't have to pay for shipping and download stuff for his Kindle.

I used to use it almost weekly. But now that I stream movies, buy e-books and digital music, I can't remember the last time I got a delivery from Amazon.

Shipping is really fast. Love it. And you can watch amazon prime videos online (a lot of HD/Blueray) for free. I watched Speed last night.

I'm not sure that Amazon Prime is better than Amazon Super Saver.

Amazon Super Saver is free while Amazon Prime is $70 or $80 per year.

1000's of items (or even millions of items) on Amazon are NOT available with Amazon Prime so you end up paying shipping charges for so many items.

And if you are a member of Amazon Prime, you are not eligibile to use Amazon Super Saver shipping at all. So you miss out on 100's of items which you could have purchased at low prices and which have Super Saver shipping which is free shipping.

Instant downloads use Flash so they won't play on iPads . Really annoying. Annoying on Apple's part, not amazon's.

Girlina @R18, I believe everything that is eligible for "Super Saver" shipping is fulfilled by Amazon, which means it is Prime eligible. The only things that are not are those shipped from outside their warehouses, which wouldn't be eligible for Super Saver anyway.

Absolutely worth it. Saved 10 times that in shipping costs!!

You're aware that Amazon data-mines the hell out of you, yes?

They record every click, every page-view, and store it. They monitor everything, and use it not just to market more to you, but to sell that info to others.

They are actually selling the Kindle's for less than it costs them to make. Why? Because they monitor every book you read. More than that, they monitor every book you DON'T read, they monitor what page you're on, how far into a book you get before you stop (if you don't finish), how long it takes you to finish a book, etc.

And they sell that info. And if the government asks for records about your reading habits? They happily hand it over.

Think about that the next time you get all gleeful about these "amazing deals"... especially if you're the type that won't give your phone number or email address out to a local independent shop owner, because you want your "privacy".

R20, I'm pretty sure you 'believe' wrong.

As a Amazon Prime subscriber, my experience is that one is NEVER offer Amazon Super Saver.

I've had a trial sub to Amazon Prime for the past month and I have never been offered Supe Saver while a Prime subscriber.

I think that is the unoticed by many trick Amazon is playing.

Rather than charge for shipping, they sometimes just make the price higher which covers the shipping cost in disguise.

Well, not to mention that with Super Saver, you have to order a minimum of $25 in order to get free shipping. With Prime, it's two day shipping no matter how much you order. I love it, and best of all, because I have an edu email address, I haven't paid a penny for it! But I have purchased a lot more stuff from Amazon, so I guess that's how they get you.

Best thing about buying books - an increasingly amount of used book sellers are Prime now, so I can sometimes get copies for 2 or 3 dollars with free shipping.

I have the 30 day trial of amazon prime now, and am loving it, but I will cancel before I have to pay the $80. Usually, I save up and make larger orders of $25 or more, so shipping is free anyway. It is nice for Christmas gifts though...I have been placing several small orders each day.

Love it, had a 48 foot extension ladder delivered for free in 3 days, and was cheaper than same product on sale at Menards. Also have had a mattress, a chair and untold books, cds, dvds, vitamins, matzo crackers, and until they stopped selling , Jungle Juice poppers. And they did not ask for the 79.00 fee renewal until 3 years had gone by, instead of one. And no tax usually, either. I could go on and on , but yes I recommend it.

I have no idea how they are able to ship large items for free, without raising the price dramatically. I ordered two giant bean bags for my nephews for Christmas. They were $17 each. I had them in three days. The box was probably six feet tall and two feet wide. How could they afford to give me the item, shipped, this cheaply?

The gold box deals are great too... if I buy an anthology of gay short stories, I get a daily offering of similar books with an extra discount. If I order the new Coldplay cd( yeah I am old, I buy CDs) I get an offer to buy a Radiohead or U2 CD with a special discount--- which is available for 24 hours. Really folks, and not a shill, or at least not a paid shill, for Amazon Prime.

[quote]As a Amazon Prime subscriber, my experience is that one is NEVER offer Amazon Super Saver.

You aren't offered Super Saver because Super Saver allows you free shipping on Amazon-fulfilled items for orders over $25, while Prime allows you free shipping on Amazon-fulfilled items, no matter how small the order.

Are you getting it now?

Super Saver doesn't apply to items that are shipped by independent sellers. Prime and non-Prime have to pay that shipping no matter what.

But I suspect they are upping the price of the item with Amazon Prime whereas if you had Super Saver you would get a lower price.

Not true, R31. I always comparison shop and I've never found an instance where Amazon raised its prices to cover shipping. In fact, it's almost always less expensive to buy things on Amazon and then I get free shipping on top of that.

Amazon engages in dynamic pricing like all online retailers. They change prices by the hour or even minute. I would hazard to say Super Saver encourages you to make purchases you otherwise wouldn't, in order to hit that $25 minimum, or delays you from purchasing items you need while they sit there in your cart for days/weeks until you hit $25 of necessities.

[quote]Super Saver allows you free shipping on Amazon-fulfilled items for orders over $25, while Prime allows you free shipping on Amazon-fulfilled items, no matter how small the order.

I placed more than 60 orders with Amazon this year, but am only now considering Prime. If it's just books, it's easy enough to make up a min. $25 order -- or leave something in a cart to add to the order later.

The streaming and Kindle benefits are now attractive enough to make it worth while for me.

I'm a Prime member and one thing I do like is that if the price gets lowered (Amazon price matches stores like Best Buy, etc) they will credit your card the difference.

I've gotten anywhere from $1-$12 back from them.

I love Amazon Prime. It's easy to get a lot of stuff shipped free for less than I'd pay in a store.

R8, I shop quite a bit at Amazon and am a Prime member, but I've discovered some things are way overpriced on Amazon. I now typically comparison shop and will buy it somewhere else if it is significantly cheaper.

As far as the Prime membership, I got it for the shipping and didn't realize for a long time that it came with streaming video. That said, they don't have that many videos that interest me, although they do have some. I think if you are quite young and haven't seen a lot of older shows, you might find it appealing, especially for the first year. But I don't think they change their inventory very often, so once you've watched everything you like, you won't be so interested.

You don't need a physical Kindle to borrow library books. You just need a Kindle app., which you can put on your computer or i-phone.

Also, R18 is dead wrong.

If an item isn't available for Prime (i.e., free two-day shipping), if it's sold by Amazon, shipping is still free, just not two-day shipping.

From Amazon's website: "Prime members receive free Standard shipping on millions of items sold by Amazon and on items sold by sellers that are fulfilled by Amazon. Items can be shipped to nearly all addresses in the continental U.S."

[quote]You don't need a physical Kindle to borrow library books.

There are two types of borrowing. Standard borrowing from your local libraries and the Kindle Owners' Lending Library. For the former, you don't need a Kindle. For the latter, you do.

The latter is the benefit tied to Prime and it's sort of a Netflix-like benefit for books, although just one book at a time and one book per month.

[quote]They record every click, every page-view, and store it. They monitor everything

Yes.

[quote]and use it not just to market more to you

Yes.

[quote]but to sell that info to others.

No. Why on earth would they do that? Losing their number one competitive advantage? Of course not!

[quote]I love it, and best of all, because I have an edu email address, I haven't paid a penny for it!

How do you get a edu email address? I want one two!

I don't buy enough physical items from Amazon in a year to justify paying $80 for shipping. Shipping is free anyway and usually comes within 4-5 days. It's not worth $80 to have it come 2 days sooner. It's no big deal to wait 2 days.

Prime probably costs Amazon money, but it's amazing how much MORE we buy with Amazon with it. We probably have spent $3000 in the last year.

Prime is cheap when I consider how much I order from Amazon in a year. I also use it and Netflix to keep from having cable, so I save over $90/month.

[quote]We probably have spent $3000 in the last year.

That's what Amazon is counting on, that adding Prime changes your buying habits. Instead of running to Best Buy to get that latest gizmo, you'll get it on Amazon, knowing that you can have it in a couple of days and never leave your home.

Change your buying habits enough and Amazon really does make money on Prime. And even if they don't make much, Amazon is in this for the long haul. They're fine not making much money now, confident that if they can get you committed to their ecosystem, the opportunities for money-making will open up in the future.

You're seeing exactly that logic operating in the Kindle reader and Kindle Fire worlds.

[quote]And if the government asks for records about your reading habits? They happily hand it over.

What will the goverment do with the knowledge that I bought a cut-rate copy of "New York Apartments" by Jamee Gregory?!?

I'll be terribly embarassed if that bit of information goes public.

R40, please show me where you have to have an actual Kindle to accept a book loan, esp. if you are a prime member. I have a Kindle, but I also have an app on my computer and everything is on there as well.

R48, see the link, where you will see the following:

[quote]Books can only be borrowed and read on Kindle devices (works with all Kindle generations).

Borrowing at your local library can be done from a Kindle device or app. Borrowing from the Kindle Owners' Lending Library, the Netflix-like program, can only be done from a Kindle device.

R48, are you an idiot? Amazon spells it out in bold that you need a physical Kindle in order to borrow from the Kindle Owners' Lending Library. That's why it's called the KINDLE OWNERS' Lending Library because you actually have to own a, you know, Kindle in order to use it.

I don't understand the people who say they're saving in shipping fees. I'm not a prime member, and I've never paid a shipping fee with Amazon.

You have also never ordered a couple of batteries and had them shipped to your home in 2 nights for no fee.

[quote]I don't understand the people who say they're saving in shipping fees

We don't have to meet any minimum requirements for free shipping, so we can order literally any quantity, any value, multiple uncombined orders, etc. and still get free shipping.

And we don't have to wait to get our orders; we get free two-day shipping, not just free "super-saver" shipping.

R51, you must be special. I paid thousands of dollars in shipping fees before I joined Prime. It's saving me a bundle.

Not everyone can afford to order $25 worth of stuff at a time.

Some people need to organize their shopping around their paychecks, and $25 can be a lot of money to some people.

"Because I have Amazon Prime, it's really shocking how much I buy from them."

I think it's shocking how much on Amazon does NOT qualify for Prime shipping. I'm also in the 30 day trial; two things were not part of Prime in my last order. Of the tow items that were, one arrived two days after the promised time.

There you have it.

R39, you are wrong and have fallen for their trick.

Yes, free shipping is available for some items, but not items. You are reading that phrase incorrectly. There are still millions of items they sell which are not available for Prime nor Super Saver.

R53, but not ALL items are available for Prime shipping. There are 100's of items I've wanted to buy that do not have Prime shipping.

R56 is correct. It is shocking how many millions of items are NOT available for Amazon Prime shipping.

So, R58? If that's true, then don't get it. For me, there have been only one or two items in the past year, which makes Prime well worth the cost.

[quote]We don't have to meet any minimum requirements for free shipping

Yeah, that $25 is a real back breaker. /sarcasm

Where I save a lot of money with Amazon is SALES TAX. If they ever start collecting sales tax on order to my state, I'll stop ordering from them.

Not having to pay sales tax and getting free super saver shipping saves me a bundle. I'm not going to start ruining that savings by foolishly paying $80 for free shipping that I'm already getting for nothing.

Often Super Saver is a better deal than Amazon Prime.

[quote]Not everyone can afford to order $25 worth of stuff at a time. Some people need to organize their shopping around their paychecks, and $25 can be a lot of money to some people.

So the solution to them not being able $25 is for them to shell out $80 to get the convenience of not having to organize their shopping?

Can someone please explain the difference between Super Saver and Amazon Prime??

R57 doesn't seem to understand.

Think of all the items that are available for super saver shipping. If you have Prime, you still get free shipping on ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, it's just that some come in two days, and you never have to spend a minimum of $25 to get the ones that aren't Prime eligible.

Yes, there are numerous items on Amazon that don't qualify, but the vast majority are sold by third-party merchants.

This is all clearly stated on Amazon.com, so I'm not sure what secret Ms. R57 thinks she's revealed.

Amazon makes money off of Prime in two ways. One by getting people to pay for it, and then them never really using it enough to make back the annual fee. But they also get people, because they've paid for Prime, to start going to Amazon first when they want to buy something online, and eventually start to buy items they'd usually buy at Target or whatever on Amazon as well.

None of this is that complicated.

[quote]Yeah, that $25 is a real back breaker.

Actually, it can be. Because of Prime, I don't have to care whether something adds up, or put more items in my shopping cart simply to pad the total as I used to occasionally do, which ends up costing money.

R57, what the hell is wrong with you? Trolldar shows you have been shitting all over the place tonight. You are a perfect example of a nasty, bitchy and foolish eldergay. You are like a Minnesotan version of Charlie.

R65, I understand perfectly, Mr. Condescending Pedantic Pontificator.

No one except those who have obsessive compulsive disorder and severe problems with instant gratification and a lack of impulsivity control have trouble waiting longer than two days.

You choose to think you are getting a huge advantage. We choose to not think it is such a big advantage.

[quote]No. Why on earth would they do that? Losing their number one competitive advantage? Of course not!

R41, are you really that naive?

Seriously... you think they aren't making money off of the datamining they do on you? Are you really, seriously, that completely naive?

No, R69, you're the one that's naive and doesn't understand how real world business works.

You're wrong, R70, in every way.

I just think it's funny (and clueless, and hypocritical) to be so concerned about giving out your email to a local independent merchant (who won't sell it, won't monitor your every whim, who won't turn your records over to the government because they don't keep them)... and then turn around and use Amazon for everything, sign up for PRIME, and use a Kindle.

It's like people who are afraid of Big Brother, totally sellting out to Big Brother without even realising it.

It's clueless.

Just like you.

So prime is a program where you pay $80 to get free shipping that you already get without paying extra for it?

The power of marketing is amazing.

[quote]You have also never ordered a couple of batteries and had them shipped to your home in 2 nights for no fee.

This has been a Goddesssend to many a Womyn on the Land.

R72, it's not nearly that simple, which you'd know if you actually read the thread.

Oh jeez.

Do you have a free email account? Did you know your EVERY WORD is being scanned and analyzed? It is! (It's the way spam is filtered.)

Do you use search engines? YOU ARE BEING DATA MINED!

Do you subscribe to magazines? DATA MINED!

Do you donate to political causes? DATAMINED!

At first, I didn't feel quite right ordering some little thing on a whim just to avoid a trip to the store (where I would surely pick up other stuff.) No more. I'd guess I probably get 150 packages a year.

So, R68, when numerous people clearly prove you are wrong, you simply change your argument. Nice work.

R75, you're seriously not getting it. What the fuck is wrong with you?

No, I do get it -- prissypants thinks he can wash his hands of being EXPLOITED for DATAMINING when actually he can't, and he's a drama queen who needs to put down the issue of Adbusters and UNCLUTCH!

[quote] I'd guess I probably get 150 packages a year.

Think of the environment! How much waste are you wasting with your 150 boxes, plastic, bubble packaging, paper. Think of the EARTH!!!

That's not the point at all. Thanks for proving that your reading comprehension is near zero and that you truly don't get it.

[quote]are you really that naive? Seriously... you think they aren't making money off of the datamining they do on you? Are you really, seriously, that completely naive?

Are you seriously this completely stupid? Who, pray tell, are Amazon selling this precious data to? Overstock? Wal-Mart? Best Buy? Why would they give away their competitive advantage by giving out their data that they worked so hard to obtain with their proprietary technology? What kind of industry are you in because you don't understand anything about business or how competing companies operate.

R82, how can you be so clueless?

They SELL it, they don't GIVE it away. And they also aren't "giving away" everything that is valuable to them, just data and information that others are willing to pay good money for.

You really are a fucking idiot.

Dontcha know, they're doing it so they can find and wrangle all us gays on the train and throw is in those new prison camps.

WHO, R83? What evil corporations are they selling their data to? Name one!

R83, I used "giving out their data" as a figure of speech and you know it. So to argue about the semantics of "selling" or "giving away" their data is just idiotic.

I don't give a fuck if Amazon datamines me. If you worry about getting datamined, you should get off the internet, period. Conspiracy freaks, go away.

It's amazing how many clueless and STUPID people have added to this thread.

If you don't have PRIME and are a bit below the $25. free shipping minimum, filleritem.com will find you the least expensive item(s) to reach the $25. You might buy a gasket for 8 cents, but it accomplishes its goal.

I'd never heard of Roku before seeing this thread. Is it like Apple TV? (which I was planning on buying). Better? Worse?

R88: Here's a recent CNET review and comparison.

Can't give a one-on-one comparison personally, but I have Roku and like it, with some qualifications (which would apply as easily to Apple TV, it seems): I tend to cancel and restart the Roku monthly fee ($8?). There are some interesting things on Roku, but it depends on what you find interesting; with the mondo-plan DirecTV and a tendency to watch streamed films in sporadic marathons, I use Roku as an occasional extra, while other people rely on Apple TV or Roku more extensively.

[quote]Seriously... you think they aren't making money off of the datamining they do on you?

Internally? Yup. Externally? Nope.

[quote]Are you really, seriously, that completely naive?

LOL... Whatever you say, sweetums. I will note, by the way, your complete failure to back up your claims.

Oh, and while you're at it, do tell us how Amazon.com is different from, say, Apple.com or Walmart.com or BestBuy.com or any of the other major online marketplaces.

Thanks R89 - that's helpful

R50, I'm not an idiot,but you are an asshole. The reason that you have to own a Kindle is that you can only download a borrowed book from your Kindle and, apparently, not from a reading app. Now, if you had a clue, you would have explained that. Instead, you concrete-thinking doorstop, you gave a nonanswer.

R77, I have not been 'proven wrong' at all.

But you obviously are heavily invested in believing that all of your beliefs are accurate, so feel free to continue believing what you wish pertaining to Super Saver vs Amazon Prime.

[quote]But you obviously are heavily invested in believing that all of your beliefs are accurate

Oh, the irony...

R53 states:

'We don't have to meet any minimum requirements for free shipping, so we can order literally any quantity, any value, multiple uncombined orders, etc. and still get free shipping.'

R53, but to obtain the above, you often have to choose the item out of five same items at the most expensive price listed just to get Amazon Prime shipping.

For example, five items all the same item but at different prices - you have to choose the one that is priced the highest just to get Prime Shipping. That is the trick by Amazon that you are not understanding.

R96, if you have Amazon Prime, stuff that usually would qualify for Super Saver that for whatever reason doesn't qualify for Prime ALSO SHIPS FREE. Just not two days.

I don't understand why you can't grasp these fact.

R96, I've had Amazon Prime for two years and I've never run into that situation.

R97, no, that is not true at all.

There are millions of items on Amazon that do NOT qualify for Amazon Prime shipping.

You are erroneously thinking that ALL Amazon items are available to you for free shipping -

which is not true at all.

[quote]you often have to choose the item out of five same items at the most expensive price listed just to get Amazon Prime shipping.

Often? Bullshit. Occasionally, yes, when a third-party vendor has the item available for a lower price than does Amazon. That just doesn't happen that often and it has nothing to do with any "trick."

[quote]That is the trick by Amazon that you are not understanding.

Amazon doesn't play those kinds of tricks, which is why you can't support that silly assertion.

R98, I've had four different trial runs with Amazon Prime shipping and have run into that situation a zillion times.

That is why I've never purchased the Amazon Prime subscription.

Super Saver works better.

A "zillion times," R101? Surely you realize you have destroyed your own credibility here.

R101, can you give us a few concrete examples from your zillions of times this has happened?

I truly don't understand why you are so fixated on your incorrect assumptions.

[quote]For example, five items all the same item but at different prices - you have to choose the one that is priced the highest just to get Prime Shipping. That is the trick by Amazon that you are not understanding.

This doesn't even make sense. Why in the world would Amazon list 5 of the same exact items separately with 5 different prices? Are you talking about third party vendors? Then of course they often don't participate in either Prime or Super Saver and you have to pay for your own shipping. But that really has nothing to do with the question at hand.

R101, you say that's why Super Saver works better. But if a third party vendor doesn't ship Prime, then it most likely won't ship Super Saver either. You have to pay shipping to the vendor regardless.

[quote]For example, five items all the same item but at different prices - you have to choose the one that is priced the highest just to get Prime Shipping.

The items listed that are not eligible for free shipping are fulfilled by third-party vendors, not by Amazon. It's understood that third-party vendors are not part of Amazon Prime. They set their own prices, often lower than Amazon's, but you pay them for shipping and take your chances with the quality.

R72 sums up one major aspect of this perfectly:

'So prime is a program where you pay $80 to get free shipping that you already get without paying extra for it?

The power of marketing is amazing.'

R107, you clearly can't back up your incorrect claims. Did you miss the simple request at R103?

R108, please read R106 who explains it perfectly.

You are truly a hopeless cause.

No one in this thread has ever said third-party items are Prime eligible, and they're not super saver shipping eligible either. (Unless they are fulfilled by amazon).

I don't think you even know what point you are arguing anymore.

R110, you are still often paying more because you choose the higher priced Amazon Prime items which are the highest priced items in the list of choices for any one item.

Therefore, it is often cheaper to choose the lower priced items and use Super Saver.

(or in some instances, choose the lower priced items and pay postage, but the point is it is often cheaper to choose the lower priced items and use Super Saver)

R111, what the hell are you talking about? Amazon itself, without third party vendors, doesn't list multiple listings of the exact same item with different prices. The only time that would happen is if it was third pary vendors also listing them and of course you can't use Prime or Super Saver in those cases.

It's pretty obvious R111 has no idea what he's talking about and is making up stuff out of thin air.

I'm thinking he's not rational and therefore incapable of carrying on a rational discussion.

What THE HELL is 111 talking about?

R112:

Which items are eligible for Amazon Prime?

Generally, most items eligible for Super Saver Shipping are also eligible for Amazon Prime Shipping benefits. The program is limited to products sold by Amazon.com and by third-party merchants participating in the Fulfillment by Amazon program.

R112:

As you can see above, Amazon Prime shipping includes products by third-party merchants participating in the Fulfillment by Amazon program.

And your point is? If they participate in the Fulfillment by Amazon program, then great. It's just like buying directly from Amazon and you could use Prime or Super Saver. Great, very convenient.

R112 stated:

The only time that would happen is if it was third pary vendors also listing them and of course you can't use Prime or Super Saver in those cases.

R112, what you wrote above is not true.

You say 'of course, you can't use Prime or Super Saver in the case of third party vendors'.

That is not true. What is true is that:

Amazon Prime shipping and Super Saver shipping include products by third-party merchants participating in the Fulfillment by Amazon program.

To get Super Saving you have to spend at least $25. What I like about Prime is I'm free to order thinks like bulbs and filters for my appliances or a single book or CD without waiting until I had $25 of stuff. Before Prime I would always buy something extra to get the free shipping and I might easily have spend $80 on stuff I would not otherwise have ordered during the course of a year.

R111 clearly doesn't understand some fundamentals about how Amazon works. I don't know why I'm bothering to explain this, but I'm going to try.

Many items Amazon sells directly from its own warehouses. Those are the items that are typically eligible for Prime and/or super saver shipping.

There are also numerous, large companies that sell through Amazon, but Amazon is merely acting as the credit card merchant. Amazon never has the stock in hand, it simply allows companies to use its website to sell and takes a percentage of the sale. Some of those companies may choose to offer Prime shipping, some may not. But they have the ability to create items in Amazon's catalog, which explains why you sometimes see the same product (a TV for example) listed as multiple items, usually with different prices. The companies are creating those listings and fulfilling those orders, not Amazon.

On top of that, there are also many smaller, third-party sellers. It's the same basic set up -- Amazon is only acting as the credit card processor. It is possible for some smaller, third-party sellers to offer Prime, but the majority don't.

There are also third-party sellers who are fulfilled by Amazon. That means they ship their stock to Amazon, which warehouses it and fulfills the order. These sellers' items are typically available for Prime and super savers shipping, because Amazon is fulfilling the order from its warehouse.

There really isn't any conspiracy theory at work here. Prime is a great deal for some people, it's not a great deal for others. Ultimately, Amazon wants you to spend as much possible money at Amazon.com, whether they are the actual seller or they're just taking the cut from other sellers. This seems like common sense to me.

... but the idea that Prime is somehow some trick to screw customers is just wrong.

The idea that there are millions of items on the site that you specifically wouldn't get free shipping on just because you have Prime is simply incorrect. I think that's what is stuck in R111's head.

Yikes. This thread became SCARY. Seems like such a benign topic. Oh well.

I say, if you don't want to pay for Prime, then don't. Some people do. If you like using Super Saver and just keep things in your cart until you hit $ 25. Super for you !!!

You're BOTH pretty !!

Bottom line, I go for what is cheapest. If a third party vendor is selling it cheapest, including the $ 4 shipping ... then that's what I am buying. But I do like Prime for most of my purchases as long as it makes sense cost-wise. And Amazon prices for the most part of still pretty competetive.

And the 'free', 'fast' shipping is a plus. Like now around the holidays.

I have never seen ANY item eligible for Super Saver that is not also eligible for Prime. Yes, there are some items from third parties available. Sometimes, the price through the third party plus shipping is less than Amazon with free shipping. Sometimes the opposite is true. As with everything, it pays to comparison shop.

[quote]you are still often paying more because you choose the higher priced Amazon Prime items which are the highest priced items in the list of choices for any one item.

Total bullshit, which is why you can't back up these silly claims.

[quote]Therefore, it is often cheaper to choose the lower priced items and use Super Saver.

Moron, in those cases where a third-party vendor beats Amazon prices, that item is ineligible for both Prime *and* Super-Saver! In short, you don't have the faintest idea what the fuck you're talking about.

[quote]but the point is it is often cheaper to choose the lower priced items and use Super Saver)

No, the point is that you're a moron who just can't handle reality. Sheesh...

[quote]This thread became SCARY. Seems like such a benign topic.

That's what you get when you have an idiot like 18 (who was also 23, 24, 31, 57, 58, 59, 62, 68, 94, 96, 99, 101, 107, 109, 111) who basically made false claims and then doubled down when he got called on them rather than just admitting he said something really stupid and got caught.

For some people, Prime doesn't make sense. They don't spend much time on Amazon.com or they routinely purchase items where Amazon is outpriced by a third-party vendor, meaning that neither Super Saver shipping nor Prime are available.

For those like me, though, who routinely shop at Amazon, Prime has paid for itself more than two times over, and that's not even counting the Prime Instant Videos I've watched or the three books I've checked out from the Lending Library. Add in those other benefits and I'd have spent triple what Prime cost me. Nor is it counting the time, gas money, parking money, car wear and tear, etc., I've saved by using Amazon rather than traveling to my local Best Buy or GameStop or Target or whatever.

Nor does it count the ability to get next-day shipping for just $3.99. And since my city contains an Amazon fulfillment center, twice this year that actually resulted in literally same-day delivery, where the item was ordered in the morning and was on my doorstep that evening.

Prime doesn't add up for you? Don't get it. But please don't make silly claims that those of us who use it aren't getting our money's worth. And please don't make silly claims about malicious Amazon.com "tricks" that exist solely in your own mind.

Roku doesn't have a monthly fee, R89.

[quote]Roku doesn't have a monthly fee, [R89].

Then what do I keep cancelling and restarting?

Free two-delivery may not seem like that big a deal until December 21st.

I don't know, r99 -- probably Netflix or Hulu Plus. I have Roku and it's totally free unless you want to add on those extra services.

I don't know.

Your Netflix or Hulu Plus, maybe?

All I know is I've had a Roku since early this year and I've never paid a monthly fee.

See link.

No, it's not Netflix or Hulu Plus. I keep canceling ROKU! But sometimes I want it back again so I restart the free trial.

I'm on the free month trial offer. I joined primarily to get access to the free instant movies and TV shows - over 10,000 in total. I've watched a Steve Job documentary, some old Star Treks (original), a movie and some PBS series in the first week. There are way more titles I am looking to get to. Not sure if I will keep the service or not, as the novelty may wear off. If I bought from Amazon on a regular basis, it would be a no-brainer based on the free two delivery AND the access to the entertainment content.

Roku is a device you purchase. Once you buy it you own it outright. It streams sites like Netflix and Hulu; if you are paying a fee for Roku you are being ripped off, R130. You don't pay a monthly fee to own your computer or your television, just for the services you use to get online, and watch cable TV respectively.

Well put, R124.

I found a free porn channel for Roku- it's pretty good!

[quote]For some people, Prime doesn't make sense.

You got that right.

[quote]If I bought from Amazon on a regular basis, it would be a no-brainer based on the free two-day delivery AND the access to the entertainment content.

That's exactly right. That first "if" is the critical one.

[quote](Regarding the statement that for some people, Prime doesn't make sense): You got that right.

Well, duh; I don't think anyone has claimed otherwise.

Why is this necessarily right?

"If I bought from Amazon on a regular basis, it would be a no-brainer based on the free two-day delivery AND the access to the entertainment content"

One can buy from Amazon regularly and not care at all about the free two-day delivery with Amazon Prime shipping.

Those two actions are not tied together at all - buying regularly and subscribing to Amazon Prime just for the two-day delivery (and entertainment content) makes no sense to many people who are not into the instant gratification of extremely fast delivery at all

It's not the "two day" part as much as the "free" part, R137.

I think R137 is this thread's troll again, he just cleaned out his cookies.

Regardless, R137, no one cares if you have Prime. If Amazon works for you the way you do it now, great. If you never order from Amazon again, also great.

[quote]Well, duh; I don't think anyone has claimed otherwise.

Really? Then why are you trying to sell it so hard?

[quote]Nor does it count the ability to get next-day shipping for just $3.99. And since my city contains an Amazon fulfillment center, twice this year that actually resulted in literally same-day delivery, where the item was ordered in the morning and was on my doorstep that evening.

You're trying too hard, dear. Obsessively so.

Fact is, those who want it should get it, but it doesn't make sense for a lot of people.

R125: Sorry, I meant Hulu Plus:

[quote]A few popular channels, like Netflix and [bold]Hulu Plus[/bold], require that you have a monthly subscription with those services. For example, a Netflix streaming subscription that provides unlimited access to a streaming library of over 20,000 movies and TV episodes costs $7.99 per month. Roku simply gives you access to that subscription on TV. We do not charge any additional fees to watch subscription-based channels like Netflix and Hulu Plus.

[quote]Really? Then why are you trying to sell it so hard?

Correcting misinformation and relating my experience with Prime is now "sell[ing] it so hard?" Uh, sure, whatever, dear.

[quote]You're trying too hard, dear. Obsessively so.

ROFL... As compared to those of you who don't like it and are lying about it? Uh, sure, whatever, dear.

[quote]Fact is, those who want it should get it, but it doesn't make sense for a lot of people.

Well, duh... Nobody has claimed otherwise. Now what was that you were saying about "trying too hard... obsessively so?"

Prime is clearly not the right choice for bitchy eldergays.

R138, if you are not concerned with the 'two-day delivery' part, as you say, and mostly concerned with the 'free' part -

then Super Saver delivers for free and does not cost the $80.00 extra to subscribe every year

[quote]then Super Saver delivers for free and does not cost the $80.00 extra to subscribe every year

Prime is a super-set of Super Saver shipping. Everything that ships free with Super Saver ships free with Prime but the reverse is not necessarily true. And with Prime, I don't have to worry about the money limit for getting Super Saver, nor deal with the hassle of having to consolidate an order to get the free shipping and then having to deal with waiting for the whole order because one item is on back order. And when I do need next-day delivery, it's a hell of a lot cheaper.

It's about both the free shipping and the convenience. My last three orders at Amazon.com were for $17.51, $14.21, and $16.41. Without Prime, I would have had to spend an additional $26.87 to get the free shipping on each order.

Within a year the major e-tailers will offer free shipping on all purchases, with no qualifying purchase or coupon code required. Consumers are demanding so and anyone who doesn't jump on board will lose any other competitive edge they may have.

It'd be a waste of money for me. I have no problem spending $25 at a time - my average purchase from Amazon is substantially more than that already.

R145, you are an anomaly. Your need for instant gratification of extremely fast mailing of one item after one item does not apply to all buyers.

And you are wrong when you say you save yourself from 'the hassle of waiting for the whole because one item is on back order'.

That does not happen. They go ahead and send all items without waiting for one backordered item. I've ordered dozens upon dozens of times without using Amazon Prime and never has any order of other items been delayed because of waiting for a backordered item.

And yes, about 100 posts ago we understood the point you make at R145, so there was no need for to once again explain what is clear about your practices and thinking.

So you are happy with your choice of using Amazon Prime - we understand you are happy, we all just don't agree with it.

I've used it since they started it. It definitely pays for itself in the free postage, which is two-day guaranteed (but frequently arrives in one day). I haven't use it for anything else, but I shop so much on Amazon that the free postage is a big deal.

I canceled Prime after the trial period. Getting packages a day or two earlier is not worth $79, and spending $25 is not a hardship for me.

Amazon has done a great job of making some of its customers feel exclusive by offering this membership, and good for Amazon. They know that one aspect of success in retail can be making your customers feel like they're part of an inside group.

Amazon is an amazing company that went from a little online bookstore 16 years ago to the dominant online retailer today. It didn't get there by not understanding what motivates its customers - that it can sell free shipping to some of its customers when it's already offering it to all of its customers is part of Amazon's formula for success. Like dynamic pricing (lowering the price or a product when sales begin to fall and raising it when demand for a product rises, in its simplest form) Amazon is redefining what it means to shop and is increasing the efficiency of retail beyond what the supposedly super-efficient Walmart can only dream of in its brick and mortar stores.

R149, Super Saver shipping provides free postage/free shipping without paying the $80.00 per year fee.

This may be the silliest thread I've ever seen on DL, with a single poster making the same argument ad nauseum.

" that it can sell free shipping to some of its customers when it's already offering it to all of its customers is part of Amazon's formula for success."

so true, R150, and funny

[quote]"that it can sell free shipping to some of its customers when it's already offering it to all of its customers is part of Amazon's formula for success."

[quote]so true, [R150], and funny

Also think the kerfuffle is hilarious. And very profitable, I'm sure.

The last few replies shitting on Prime sound like a Frau who clips coupons and thinks everyone else is a sucker for paying full price, neglecting the fact she pays with the time it takes to clip, store, and use the coupons, as well as the influence the coupons have on her in terms of directing consumption towards brands she might not prefer, or quantities she might not need.

Everyone pays what they can afford. There are few if any "deals" out there. An Amazon Prime subscription is not cheaper than Super Saver, because it is not free. It has a price. In exchange, it offers outsized convenience that its subscribers consider to be a tremendous value. This convenience is not "the same" as what Super Saver offers, it is not discount toilet paper with luxury wrapping and a higher price. Prime subscribers do not have to wait 5 business days for a shipment. Prime subscribers get delivery on Saturdays. Prime subscribers do not have to delay consumption until they are ready to purchase $25 worth of products. Prime subscribers can leverage this convenience to cut out many of the ordinary trips to the store for necessities and sundries.

It has a price. Everything has a price.

[quote]The last few replies shitting on Prime

R155? You're overwrought, dear. No one is "shitting on Prime." It's just a discussion.

Some people want to pay for it, and others don't think it's worth it. Duh. It's not a big deal. There's no need for you to get upset and start getting nasty with people.

R156, if you have actually read this thread, there's one nasty asshole who doesn't know what he's talking about who has caused all the fuss.

Any normal, rational person reading this thread would agree.

You R156, if you actually read R155 you would have seen his post start out with "The last few replies shitting on Prime."

Last few replies.

Read much, do you?

poor R155, he is so very unorganized and disorganized that he cannot pull together orders for his toiletries, sundries, and necessities into one $25.00 order each week or 2 weeks. Talk about unorganized - he is it.

and poor R155, so delusional and so upset that his judgment about purchasing the yearly $80.00 Amazon Prime is being called into question

His ego is so frail that calling into question his judgment about Amazon Prime has thrown him into a upset mental state

Most people are capable of pulling together their household needs and wants into $25 order by keeping a list of what is needed - yes, a list!

But, of course, most people are not addicted to getting constant packages from Amazon in the mail - a true addiction - trying to fill the emptiness inside oneself

[quote]there's one nasty asshole who doesn't know what he's talking about who has caused all the fuss.

Actually there's one person who thinks prime is a nasty trick by Amazon, and one person so invested in prime he feels compelled to convince everyone what a good thing it is.

Between these two, it looks like they've got about 40 or 50 posts in this thread.

As usual, a simple topic attracts the mentally ill obsessives. It's a DL tradition.

Stupid people who pay to check bags at the airport. You should do what I do, and wear all the clothes you need for your trip!

And you poor suckers who travel on Fridays because you have jobs. Everyone knows tickets are cheaper on Tuesdays and Wednesdays! What kind of person can't get their lives together enough to take all the days off necessary to save all that money?

And those fools who go to "restaurants" to pay for food. Don't they know you can buy frozen beef patties at Costco and cook them on a hot plate?

it's a trick, but not a 'nasty' trick

As R150 said:

"that it can sell free shipping to some of its customers when it's already offering it to all of its customers is part of Amazon's formula for success."

Also, the $80 Amazon Prime purchasers seem to not realize they are often paying the most expensive price listed for any given item

Looks like a mental health facility has opened its doors for R161.

The Amazon Prime shipping description at amazon.com phrases the description to trick people into thinking ALL items on amazon.com will have free shipping available to them.

Amazon.com deliberately phrases the description of Amazon Prime to trick people into thinking ALL items are available for free shipping.

Once I had a trial and found out that just selective items are available for Amazon Prime shipping, I knew it was not the good bargain it seemed.

Amazon shouldn't be tricking people like this. I see class action lawsuit ahead.

You're full of shit, r164 - all items that are sold by Amazon direct have the free two-day shipping. EVERYTHING.

But items bought from third-party vendors do not.

R166, yes, but only selective items are eligible for Amazon Prime shipping. The description is worded specifically to make the unastute think that ALL items on amazon.com are available for Amazon Prime shipping.

And R166, your sentence about some third party vendor items not being available for Amazon Prime-

that is not true.

From the amazon.com website:

"Generally, most items eligible for Super Saver Shipping are also eligible for Amazon Prime Shipping benefits. The program is limited to products sold by Amazon.com and by third-party merchants participating in the Fulfillment by Amazon program.

R166:

As you can see above, Amazon Prime shipping includes products by third-party merchants participating in the Fulfillment by Amazon program.

But the point is that Amazon Prime as described at amazon.com is deliberately worded to make people think that ALL items on amazon.com are eligible for Amazon Prime shipping - and this is definitely not true.

R166, you seem to have a comprehension problem.

Only selective items on amazon.com are available for Amazon Prime shipping.

Even if Amazon direct items are all available, that leaves million of items NOT available thru third party vendors.

As I said, Amazon.com deliberately describes Amazon Prime shipping to sound like not even one item on amazon.com is excluded when in fact there are millions.

Wow there are some irrational idiots on this thread.

[quote]Also, the $80 Amazon Prime purchasers seem to not realize they are often paying the most expensive price listed for any given item

You do realize that this statement has been debunked already on this thread and that it is entirely, and stupidly, false, right?

[quote]As I said, Amazon.com deliberately describes Amazon Prime shipping to sound like not even one item on amazon.com is excluded when in fact there are millions.

Oh, bullshit. Here's what Amazon says about Prime:

[quote]FREE Two-Day Shipping on millions of items

Amazon offers Prime on all items it sells or fulfills. Duh. You have no evidence that they have pretended otherwise or that they pretend that "not even one item on amazon.com is excluded," or that any customers are even remotely confused. Well, other than you, but you're evidently a moron.

I just love the idiocy of this post, so I'm repeating it.

[quote]and poor R155, so delusional and so upset that his judgment about purchasing the yearly $80.00 Amazon Prime is being called into question

Yes, how terrible it is that we debunk the lies told about this program by those who have somehow decided that it's just an awful, awful program and Amazon.com is just this terrible predatory company for offering it. Silly us.

[quote]His ego is so frail that calling into question his judgment about Amazon Prime has thrown him into a upset mental state

LOL... Oh, you mean like the idiots who keep on posting the blatant lies after they have been debunked time and time again?

[quote]Most people are capable of pulling together their household needs and wants into $25 order by keeping a list of what is needed - yes, a list!

ROFL... And you know the buying habits of people on this thread, how, exactly? Dear heart, have you ever heard of this thing called a "sale?" You know, an item that is temporarily available at a lower price? But only if you purchase it within a certain period of time?

[quote]But, of course, most people are not addicted to getting constant packages from Amazon in the mail - a true addiction - trying to fill the emptiness inside oneself

ROFLMAO... Q.E.D.

Oh, and I particularly loved this line from R159.

[quote]His ego is so frail that calling into question his judgment about Amazon Prime has thrown him into a upset mental state

Turn on trolldar to find out whose ego is on the line in this thread. Too funny.

[quote]And you are wrong when you say you save yourself from 'the hassle of waiting for the whole because one item is on back order'. That does not happen

Yes, dear, it does. And I know this because I've had it happen to me before I bought Prime.

I hate to even muck about in this thread, but I was intrigued by the posted who indicated those who work in higher ed (aka the .edu email addresses) have some special account. I have my amazon account linked to me home email (to avoid all the junk mail), but would certainly change it to my work email if it would get me any special perks.

I'm assuming that they are talking about Amazon Student, which offers the two-day shipping benefit for free for six months, and for half the cost of the full Prime program thereafter (see link for more info). I don't think the Student program offers the video on demand or the Kindle Owners' Lending Library, though.

One other benefit of the Prime program, by the way, is that it can be shared with other household members, giving 4 additional family members the free shipping benefit, so my partner and I both benefit from this.

Not all of the millions of items are eligible for Amazon Prime shipping. There are millions of ineligible items.

And one often pays higher prices when using Amazon Prime shipping.

Cons:

Not all items are eligible for “Amazon Prime.” While they are clearly marked as being “Prime” eligible, only items direct from Amazon or direct from an authorized Amazon partner can be shipped with free 2 day shipping.

Used items not sold by Amazon and items sold by individuals or third parties not associated with Amazon are not eligible for the Prime benefits.

You do need to be a frequent Amazon shopper for the fee to be worth it. In theory if you always used “Free super saver shipping” and waited until your cart filled to the minimum requirement, then Prime isn’t worth it for you.

If an item that is the same as a “Prime” item is cheaper due to a third party seller or used status you’ll have to decide whether the “Prime” eligible item is worth the higher price to get it quicker. So there is more need for comparison shopping.

Overall since Amazon gives out a lot of free trials for Amazon Prime it is worth a try. It is nice to get an item in 2 days and not have to buy more items just to be eligible for free shipping. The .99 per item for next day delivery is also a nice touch, without Prime next day delivery can cost 3 or 4 times that price.

You do need to comparison shop a little as well, its easy to fall into the “Prime” only mindset and end up paying more for an item when another merchant might be cheaper on a certain item.

Thanks R175. The require an enrollment verification so faculty and staff are not eligible. Oh well.

[quote]Not all of the millions of items are eligible for Amazon Prime shipping.

True.

[quote]There are millions of ineligible items.

False.

[quote]And one often pays higher prices when using Amazon Prime shipping.

False.

Love it. They have all the episodes of Arthur on PBS!

R179, please see article below which disputes your claims that there are not a huge number of items on amazon.com which are NOT eligible for Amazon Prime shipping.

And the article explains how Amazon Prime users are often paying higher prices for items.

R181 - please take a reading comprehension class.

Yes, sometimes there are items fulfilled by Amazon and available for Prime shipping, that are available used, or new but marginall cheaper, from third party sellers.

First, amazon shows you all these options, so you can decide if you think it's a value.

Second, these items are NOT ELIGIBLE for Super Saver. If you buy anything from a third party that does not fulfill thru Amazon, you pay their shipping rates. Often, they sell items a little cheaper than Amazon does, but charge heftier shipping.

This is a silly thread. Prime is not the height of frugality. It is the height off convenience and a great value to boot. I am sure the coupon clipping fraus on this thread still check out DVDs from the library.

[quote]please see article below which disputes your claims

I read the article; it doesn't say what you claim it does. Your claim is that there are "millions of ineligible items." The article doesn't say that and you have no basis for making such a claim. Your other claim is that "one often pays higher prices when using Amazon Prime shipping." The article doesn't say that and you have no basis for making such a claim.

How many items are ineligible? You clearly have no idea. How often would you pay higher prices when using Amazon Prime? You clearly have no idea. You made the claims; put up or shut up.

Just by frequently buying items on amazon.com and with a trial sub to Amazon Prime, I have repeatedly seen tons of items which are NOT eligible for Amazon Prime Shipping.

With frequent use of amazon.com and with a trial sub to Amazon Prime, I have also repeatedly seen tons of items which are significantly cheaper (even with paying shipping) than what is offered using Amazon Prime.

Become a frequent user of amazon.com and use a trial sub of Amazon Prime and you will see for yourself.

Also, google discussion on the pros and cons of Amazon Prime and you will see discussion of how the wording in the description of Amazon Prime at the website leads customers to think that EVERYTHING at amazon.com will be available for free shipping if one subscribes to amazon.com - it is purposefully misleading.

R184, let's try one more time:

Yes, there are cheaper items that are not eligible for Amazon Prime.

They ALSO are NOT eligible for Super Saver.

They are "cheaper"... but you have to pay shipping! Whether or not you are on Amazon Prime.

Are you... getting it?

As I said, R185 (if you would read) that many items, even with the customer paying shipping, are STILL CHEAPER and being sold at a much lesser price than buying the Amazon Prime items which are marked up.

R186 at this point you should post three good examples or STFU. I've been shopping Amazon for over a decade, have used prime since it was created, and I have never seen a situation where buying from a 3rd party and paying shipping was a deal versus buying from Amazon and getting free shipping. I just did a search of major dishwasher soap tablet brands and the ones fulfilled by Prime were the cheapest. The 3rd party ones cost much more and had $10+ shipping.

The two points below are made in the article I posted at R177 (and in many other articles)

It is very important to comparison shop when using Amazon Prime because often an item outside the scope of Amazon Prime will be the best buy even with the customer paying shipping.

1) If an item that is the same as a “Prime” item is cheaper due to a third party seller or used status you’ll have to decide whether the “Prime” eligible item is worth the higher price to get it quicker. So there is more need for comparison shopping.

2) You do need to comparison shop a little as well, its easy to fall into the “Prime” only mindset and end up paying more for an item when another merchant might be cheaper on a certain item.

[quote]As I said, [R185] (if you would read) that many items, even with the customer paying shipping, are STILL CHEAPER and being sold at a much lesser price than buying the Amazon Prime items which are marked up.

That is not true. It is unusual for third party sellers to beat Amazon's prices.

Two things here that are important. First, no one - NO ONE - has said Prime is right for everyone. And beyond R187, no one has said Prime is ALWAYS cheaper. (R187, for some items like CDs and DVDs, it's common to find a third-party selling it for far less than Amazon, and even with the shipping charges, it's cheaper than Prime. However, of course, there is a separate shipping charge for every third-party item you buy.)

All of that said, there is a fucking troll on here who very clearly didn't understand some basics about how Amazon works. He was told multiple times, in multiple different ways, so he just changed his argument without admitting he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Again, NO ONE HAS SAID PRIME IS FOR EVERYONE.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Instead, this troll says shit like this:

[quote]His ego is so frail that calling into question his judgment about Amazon Prime has thrown him into a upset mental state

When it's clear this guy just can't let go, or admit he doesn't know what he's talking about.

And this: [quote]But, of course, most people are not addicted to getting constant packages from Amazon in the mail - a true addiction - trying to fill the emptiness inside oneself

What the fuck?

Your dozens and dozens of posts here prove, again and again, you just don't get it. Once again, NO ONE IS SAYING YOU NEED TO USE PRIME. And what the fuck difference does it make to you whether or not other people use it?

You seem to think Amazon is out to trick people, yet you apparently continue to use it on a regular basis?

What the hell is wrong with you? Seriously, what is wrong with you?

Also, you know what, troll? Not everyone is a god damn penny pinching old crank. For some people with actual jobs and responsibilities, the knowledge they can order something they need for the house, have it delivered in two days, and not have to worry is worth it.

What is your next tangent going to be, old man?

[quote]Just by frequently buying items on amazon.com and with a trial sub to Amazon Prime, I have repeatedly seen tons of items which are NOT eligible for Amazon Prime Shipping.

"Just by frequently buying items on Amazon.com and with a paid subscription to Amazon Prime, I have only seen a couple of items which are NOT eligible for Amazon Prime shipping."

See how easy it is to make claims? Mindlessly regurgitating your claims doesn't make them any more true than when you first made them, idiot.

[quote]With frequent use of amazon.com and with a trial sub to Amazon Prime, I have also repeatedly seen tons of items which are significantly cheaper (even with paying shipping) than what is offered using Amazon Prime.

I'm not even going to bother mocking you on this one since it's so clearly false.

[quote]Become a frequent user of amazon.com and use a trial sub of Amazon Prime and you will see for yourself.

How about that... we actually agree on something.

[quote]That is not true. It is unusual for third party sellers to beat Amazon's prices

Bingo. He's just making shit up, which is why his post above was so hilarious:

[quote]so delusional and so upset that his judgment about purchasing the yearly $80.00 Amazon Prime is being called into question

Projection, much?

[quote]The two points below are made in the article I posted at [R177] (and in many other articles)

Since you seem to have trouble grasping the objections to your posts, let me just point out to you that the article you cited does not mention the words "tons," "often," "huge number," or "millions." It doesn't try to pretend that Amazon is "trick[ing]" people or that people are "often paying the most expensive price listed." It doesn't even use the word "many."

That is is why nobody here has a problem with that article. It's a well-balanced look at Prime, unlike your own mindless and factually inaccurate rants here.

Mr. avidly pro-Amazon Prime:

You've only come around to the balanced points of view on Amazon Prime by me posting opposing points of view which have validity.

You started off as a rampant advocate of Amazon Prime - but now you have drastically tempered your pro-amazon prime stance with much more temperate apprasial and much more mild advocacy, listing exceptions as to why it might not always be wise.

My balanced points of view have swayed you into a radically more temperate stance as illustrated by your last five or seven posts.

That is quite a rant you are on, R190, R191, R192, R193, R194.

Funny that posts got so under your skin and peeved you so much about your own personality that you really went on a rant at R190 and R191!

[quote]Mr. avidly pro-Amazon Prime:

Mr. Moron, whom are you addressing, precisely?

[quote]You've only come around to the balanced points of view on Amazon Prime by me posting opposing points of view which have validity.

Moron, your "opposing points" have *no* validity, which is precisely why you are being, justifiably, taken to task. All of the pro-Prime posters on this thread have admitted, from the very beginning, that Prime isn't for everyone. Not one of them has overstated the benefits or said anything even remotely inaccurate. You, on the other hand, have repeatedly lied and exaggerated.

[quote]You started off as a rampant advocate of Amazon Prime - but now you have drastically tempered your pro-amazon prime stance

Moron, again, to whom are you speaking? Personally, I have not changed my stance one whit, nor will you find *anyone* on this thread who was a "rampant advocate," nor anyone who has "drastically tempered" their stance, which is why you were quite careful to not actually try to back up this silly assertion with actual quotes.

[quote]My balanced points of view

ROFLMAO.... Moron, your "points of view" are exactly as "balanced" as Fox News and have swayed no one.

I will again note that you have failed to back up even a single one of your assertions, failed to acknowledge your factual errors, and have instead resorted to pathetic ad hominem attacks rather than engaging in a rational discussion. All of this is in sharp contrast to those of us who use Amazon Prime.

Moron, I wrote R192, R193, and R194; I did not write R190 or R191. Personally, I tend to find people who deliberately lie and exaggerate to be a bit annoying, but that's just me. And, of course, it's even better when said troll plays silly games and pretends to be deliberately obtuse rather than acknowledging and addressing the points that others raise.

But now that we know you're a moron and a troll, it makes it easier. From now on, we'll just laugh at you and mock you.

R195, there is more than one person responding to your idiotic comments, I can guarantee that.

Here's a look at the many blatantly incorrect things you've posted in this thread:

[quote]And if you are a member of Amazon Prime, you are not eligibile to use Amazon Super Saver shipping at all. So you miss out on 100's of items which you could have purchased at low prices and which have Super Saver shipping which is free shipping.

[quote]As a Amazon Prime subscriber, my experience is that one is NEVER offer Amazon Super Saver. I've had a trial sub to Amazon Prime for the past month and I have never been offered Supe Saver while a Prime subscriber. I think that is the unoticed by many trick Amazon is playing.

[quote]But I suspect they are upping the price of the item with Amazon Prime whereas if you had Super Saver you would get a lower price.

[quote]It is shocking how many millions of items are NOT available for Amazon Prime shipping.

[quote]R53, but to obtain the above, you often have to choose the item out of five same items at the most expensive price listed just to get Amazon Prime shipping. For example, five items all the same item but at different prices - you have to choose the one that is priced the highest just to get Prime Shipping. That is the trick by Amazon that you are not understanding.

[quote]Also, the $80 Amazon Prime purchasers seem to not realize they are often paying the most expensive price listed for any given item

[quote]The Amazon Prime shipping description at amazon.com phrases the description to trick people into thinking ALL items on amazon.com will have free shipping available to them. Amazon.com deliberately phrases the description of Amazon Prime to trick people into thinking ALL items are available for free shipping.

[quote]The description is worded specifically to make the unastute think that ALL items on amazon.com are available for Amazon Prime shipping.

[quote]As I said, Amazon.com deliberately describes Amazon Prime shipping to sound like not even one item on amazon.com is excluded when in fact there are millions.

[quote]And the article explains how Amazon Prime users are often paying higher prices for items.

[quote]That is quite a rant you are on, [[R190]], [[R191]], [R192], [R193], [R194].

Those aren't written by the same person. There is one person, whoever, who has ranted all across this thread and that's you.

R198, such strong emotion in your posts (and in your previous posts)!!

One wonders why you have such outlandish high and strong emotion on this topic!!

To be clear, when I said "Those aren't written by the same person. There is one person, whoever, who has ranted all across this thread and that's you," I was referring to that last quote of yours. ALL of those quotes from my post at R199 are from the same person.

Also, it took me about five seconds to find the link below on Amazon, which clearly states what is and is not eligible for Prime.

Such strong, outlandish emotion coming from you on this topic!

ROFL... Dear heart, we don't suffer fools gladly here at Datalounge and, oh man, have you ever proven yourself to be a fool. Oh, and no, dear, I don't have any "strong, outlandish emotion" towards you. I don't take you seriously enough for that. Personally, I find you amusing.

For the benefit of anyone who clicks on this thread, you might as well stop reading here. From here on, I'm just going to have fun with this troll.

You seem to be in a state of hysteria.

Related Words for : hysteria craze, delirium, frenzy, fury, hysterical neurosis

hysteria 1. a mental disorder characterized by emotional outbursts

hys·te·ria definition

1. a psychoneurosis marked by emotional excitability

2. excessive or uncontrollable emotion

R204, please give us concrete proof one of your statements from R199 is correct.

Just one.

Come one, gramps, show us what you've got.

I used trolldar on the anti-Prime poster here yesterday and found he was doing something very similar in other threads.

There was a Chipotle thread where he started yelling at another poster over the use of the term "on the side." It was instantly obvious that Anti-Prime just mis-read the poster's intent, but Anti-Prime wouldn't budge an inch, and kept coming back to say the same thing over and over, oblivious to everyone else calling him out.

Also, there was a White Elephant Party thread, and Anti-Prime kept coming back to screech about how shameful it was for an office to have a voluntary holiday party where people give each other gag gifts. It was clear Anti-Prime just didn't understand the concept behind the party, nor the realities of what it's like to work in an office environment. He was adding nothing to the conversation, just screaming the same thing over and over.

And like this thread, those two threads had an undercurrent that made it clear Anti-Prime is old, doesn't have much money and resents anyone (presumably younger) who does have money.

I did wonder if Anti-Troll was just a shit-stirrer, but I don't think he is. There's nothing clever or witty or interesting about his trolling. He just comes across as extremely ignorant and extremely stubborn, which is a bad combination.

[quote]You seem to be in a state of hysteria.

ROFL... Dear heart, that statement is every bit as accurate as your other statements on this thread.

[quote]hysteria 1. a mental disorder characterized by emotional outbursts

Dear heart, by all means show me where I've made any "emotional outbursts." I eagerly await your wisdom.

[quote]2. excessive or uncontrollable emotion

Dear heart, as I've already said, I don't care enough about you to have any "excessive or uncontrollable emotion." Now that I know you're a troll, you amuse me, particularly with your rather feeble attempts to change the subject, not to mention the kindergarten-level attacks. I can't wait to see what you'll try next. Anything other than to admit that you've been wrong, not to mention lying, this whole thread, I'm quite confident. You are rather predictable, dear.

Somewhat related:

[quote]I did wonder if Anti-Troll was just a shit-stirrer, but I don't think he is

I dunno. I kinda think he is. I completely agree that his trolling is horribly lame, not to mention pathetic and obvious, but there are some really, really dumb trollers out there who seem to think that the art of trolling is akin to the Monty Python "Argument Clinic" sketch.

It doesn't matter, really, since the response should be the same. Either laugh at them or ignore them. Anything else just feeds their illness/stupidity.

Now watch, R206, he'll reply to this thread, he can't help it, and his reply will be something on the order of how much we're bothered by him and how excited we're getting, and how he's obviously getting to us, and we should stop being so emotional, etc. Or he'll double down on his claims about how evil Amazon.com is and how terrible the Prime benefit is and how pathetic the people are who need that "instant gratification."

It's all for effect, of course, and all to give him some semblance of validation, some sense that he's affecting someone in some way. The troller's need for that is oh so obvious and oh so pathetic. What each of them apparently fails to realize is that we've seen literally hundreds of examples of this kind before, both here and on other forums. Sadly, there's nothing at all different or noteworthy about this troll.

Jesus fucking christ.

I'm a 3rd party Amazon seller, and I don't fulfill through Amazon.

Some of my items are priced below Amazon's, but the shipping puts them higher than Amazon with Prime or Super Saver.

Some of my items are priced below Amazon's, and even if you pay shipping, I'm still cheaper than Amazon.

And some of my items are priced above Amazon's, because I know details about those particular products that make it possible for me to price above the big river and still sell mine.

And I think Prime is a fantastic deal. Despite the annual fee, I save money on gas and sales tax that more than makes up for the cost of the plan. But I sometimes buy locally or from an AZ 3rd party seller, anyway.

Nevertheless, as pointed out above, it's not a good fit for everyone. If it doesn't appeal to you or if it seems too expensive to you, DON'T USE IT!

But why all the hand-wringing and castigating, trying to prove it's not a good program for anyone? Clearly a lot of people love it, and not just for the savings. It's also very convenient.

(BTW, I like to buy local, too, but for things I would buy locally from a chain store, I'm just as happy to spend my money with Amazon.)

So is that it? I hate when fascinating threads die an early death.

I wonder if I killed it, R210.

[quote]And some of my items are priced above Amazon's, because I know details about those particular products that make it possible for me to price above the big river and still sell mine.

I am curious about this, R209. When I buy from a 3rd party through Amazon, they have to have the best price and good ratings. How can you price something above Amazon and still sell through the Amazon.com site? What details do you know which would cause a customer to spend more with you?

I've always wondered why people price items on the Amazon website which are higher than Amazon prices. Somebody must be buying these higher priced items.

TIA.

The trolling couldn't hold up to the logic, but truth be told, I found the trolling funny.

No, it is not any logic whatsoever, as my points to consider with Amazon Prime are perfectly valid -

it was the hysteria and mentally unbalanced behavior and outlandish almost mentally ill behavior which Mr. Pro-Amazon Prime fell into.

That would include Mr. Pro-Amazon Prime and one other pro-Amazon Prime poster who fell into hysteria....

not just normal discussion, but true hysteria...

Some posters on Datalounge always try to quelch discussion on Datalounge - it is very unfortunate.

Anytime there is extended discussion on any interesting or controversial topic, certain posters try to quelch discussion thru outright bullying, uncontrolled emotional outbursts, threats, mentally unbalanced behavior, and using trolldar by stating that a person is posting too much rather than having a open forum of free flow, interesting discussion.

[quote]Now watch, [R206], he'll reply to this thread, he can't help it, and his reply will be something on the order of how much we're bothered by him and how excited we're getting, and how he's obviously getting to us, and we should stop being so emotional, etc. ...

Well, you were right!! There he is at R214 and R215!!!

I don't order enough crap off of Amazon that this would save me any money and it sounds like their streaming selection is garbage if it's actually smaller than Netflix's junk (they really fucked up by losing Criterion). I buy normal stuff at the store and only buy from 3rd party sellers who offer free shipping and never buy anything I wouldn't have used anyway trying to get to 25 bucks. There are sites specifically for the purpose of finding a 5 buck to 25 cent item to load up your cart.

It's disturbing people are so invested in this service.

[quote]It's disturbing people are so invested in this service.

Why on earth is it "disturbing" that I would like a service that saved me money and time, and offers additional benefits that I regularly use? Everyone has already said that it's not for everyone. And Amazon makes it easy to determine whether it's for you by providing the 30-day trial period.

[quote]No, it is not any logic whatsoever, as my points to consider with Amazon Prime are perfectly valid -

LOL... No, dear, they aren't. You lied, dear, and you were wrong, provably and repeatedly. Just admit it and move on. You'll feel ever so much better.

[quote]it was the hysteria and mentally unbalanced behavior and outlandish almost mentally ill behavior which Mr. Pro-Amazon Prime fell into.

ROFLMAO... Did I call it at R208 or what? Q.E.D. The poor chap can't help himself and even though he *knew* he was doing *exactly* what I said he would do, he just couldn't stop himself, any more than he'll be able to stop himself from replying to this.

And notice how he tried to up the insults, trying desperately to garner a negative reaction, *any* negative reaction? The poor dear. How lonely and unfulfilled his life must be.

[quote]That would include Mr. Pro-Amazon Prime and one other pro-Amazon Prime poster who fell into hysteria....

Note the complete lack of any actual quotes or pointers to any post on this thread where anyone "fell into hysteria." I do so love an obvious troll because all you have to do is stand back and laugh.

Free clue, dear heart, you're not fooling anyone. And, alas, you're not affecting anyone, either, as your tactics are painfully obvious. You really should try harder next time, give us more of a challenge, disguise your true nature a bit better.

[quote]not just normal discussion, but true hysteria...

Heavens to Betsy! Not "true hysteria?!" Oh my goodness! I do hope it's not contagious! Think of the children! Whatever shall we do?!

[quote]Some posters on Datalounge always try to quelch discussion on Datalounge - it is very unfortunate.

Really, dear? Do point out those posters to us, won't you? And this is relevant to this thread, why, exactly?

[quote]Anytime there is extended discussion on any interesting or controversial topic, certain posters try to quelch discussion thru outright bullying, uncontrolled emotional outbursts, threats, mentally unbalanced behavior, and using trolldar by stating that a person is posting too much rather than having a open forum of free flow, interesting discussion.

Yes, dear, we know, but we kept going anyway. Maybe in another thread those tactics of yours will work. Alas for you, you failed this time, utterly and completely.

[quote]Well, you were right!! There he is at [R214] and [R215]!!!

LOL... Yup. Completely predictable. And he'll be back and he'll continue to try to escalate, change the subject, issue more pathetic ad hominem attacks -- anything other than admit he rather blatantly lied, as R199 so ably demonstrated. All you can do is shake your head and laugh at him.

You're completely nuts.

Fucking Christ, two, maybe three completely unhinged posters have hijacked this thread to write a novel of epic length and great bitterness, bent on proving the other guy is the crazy one.

I only that that these posters are not allowed beyond the gates of the Institute.

[quote]I've always wondered why people price items on the Amazon website which are higher than Amazon prices. Somebody must be buying these higher priced items.

Part of it might be brand loyalty. Part of it might have to do with sales tax (e.g., Amazon charges sales tax in your state but the third-party vendor does not). I suspect most of it, though, is the volatile nature of the prices. Prices on Amazon.com, both Amazon's prices and those of its vendors, shift constantly, in real time.

I remember seeing an article about an item on Amazon that was selling for hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't remember the specific details but they were able to show by taking snapshots of the site that the prices were being set by two third-party vendor's bots, with each bot reacting to the other.

Really, R222? Do tell. By all means, share this wonderful insight of yours that allows you to diagnose mental illness on a board like this. Please use examples and show your work. We eagerly await your enlightenment.

[quote]Fucking Christ, two, maybe three completely unhinged posters have hijacked this thread to write a novel of epic length and great bitterness, bent on proving the other guy is the crazy one.

By all means show me where I've said anything "crazy," won't you?

In any case, everything that needs to be said about Amazon Prime was said in the first dozen posts or so. Yes, it's a great deal for some; it's not so great a deal for others. Try it yourself and find out.

Once you had the anti-Amazon troll in full voice, the thread was pretty much doomed, anyway. I figured I might as well have a little fun.

Is this Rumpy off his meds again?

[quote]Fucking Christ, two, maybe three completely unhinged posters have hijacked this thread to write a novel of epic length and great bitterness, bent on proving the other guy is the crazy one.

Yes. Isn't it marvelous? Do you think they'll fill a thread?

R227, it probably is not Rumpy, but could be the Helen Bedd person MHB who sometimes behaves this way. But it probably is a different unhinged person who sounds like Helen Bedd.

There aren't enough snide insults for it to be MHB aka David Dean Bottrel

R212, it's generally because I know Amazon doesn't really have the item or only has one or two left and won't be getting any more.

Have you ever seen a listing on Amazon that says you may have to wait several weeks for delivery?

That means Amazon doesn't have it and may never get it. If I have it ready to ship today, I can charge more.

Have you ever seen an item on Amazon with the note: only one (or two or four) left in stock!

That means maybe they have one, maybe they don't, and by the time you find out they don't actually have one, it may be a week or 10 days or even weeks.

So anyone who has bought an item with the caveats in the past is probably willing to pay me whatever (reasonable) price I set for it, knowing I can put it in the mail to them today.

Some sellers with past experience with those items know that even if AZ says it has four in stock, by the time they are told Amazon doesn't really have one and will try to get more, a 3rd party seller's item would have been delivered.

Another reason is that sometimes an item has been altered by the manufacturer and I have the original version, which some people prefer. Of course, in those situations I have to be sure I'm not listing the item improperly, or a customer who doesn't want the original version could be unhappy, and AZ will give the seller a smackdown.

This thread has been entertaining. I think my favorite quote just might have come from R40/41/46/49/53/60/66/90/91/95/123/124/136/142/145/207/208/218/219/220/221/224/225/226, when he said

[quote]By all means show me where I've said anything "crazy," won't you?

Oh, dear.

Still waiting, R232.

I read through all R233's posts and didn't see anything crazy, unhinged, hysterical or anything else. What I do see is someone rebutting false and downright stupid claims and then getting called "crazy" for it.

Sadly this thread is typical of a lot of Datalounge these days.

I will not be [italic]ignored[/italic], R232!

When I saw this thread, I wondered why on earth b it had garnered so many answers in such a short time.

It figures -----two idiots are flaming each other nonstop.

Nah, just one idiot hyperventilating at the thought that someone actually might be getting a deal and everyone else pointing out he's full of shit.

R232, the unhinged crazy Mr. Pro-Amazon Prime also wrote a lot of other crazy unhinged posts, but he goes in and erases his cookies or signs onto other computers so that ALL of his many posts will not yellow with trolldar, trying to make us think that it is not he who is writing all of them. But you can tell from his style of writing and the way he insists on gray highlighting so many parts that it is he.

And he also does that so it looks like one other person is supporting his stance.

He is not crazy and unhinged to be Mr. Pro-Amazon Prime.

If he finds value in Amazon Prime that is fine.

It is his way over the top ranting, hysteria, and mentally unbalanced carrying on that he exhibits which makes him a lunatic.

He wants to win the 'argument' he has hyper-focused on, as if the argument in his head and on this thread is almost a matter of life and death. And he cannot accept any deviant from the arguments he has presented.

We are all glad that he is so very happy with Amazon Prime! We are happy for you that you are so happy with Amazon Prime!

meant deviation, not deviant

Girls! You're both pretty!

And right on schedule, precisely as predicted, our dear little friend is back again. Still content-free, still attacking, precisely as I predicted in R221. This is some hilarious shit.

[quote]the unhinged crazy Mr. Pro-Amazon Prime also wrote a lot of other crazy unhinged posts

Really, dear? I've been looking in vain for my "crazy unhinged posts" and, so far, I haven't been able to find any. Perhaps you could point me to one? Just one, dear?

[quote]And he also does that so it looks like one other person is supporting his stance.

ROFL... Sorry to disappoint you, dear, but I'm afraid I don't do any of those things. You do know that paranoia is a mental illness, right? Just checking, dear.

[quote]If he finds value in Amazon Prime that is fine.

Yes, dear, we know. That's why I had no problem telling the truth. You, alas, decided to remain wholly unencumbered by the truth in your rants. Free clue, dear: if you have to lie to make a point, it probably wasn't a very good point.

[quote]It is his way over the top ranting, hysteria, and mentally unbalanced carrying on that he exhibits which makes him a lunatic.

ROFLMAO.... Oh, the irony.... Dear heart, I'm still waiting for you to point to any "over the top ranting" or "hysteria" anywhere on this thread (or any other, for that matter). Now you, on the other hand, with the "over the top ranting, hysterian and mentally unbalanced carrying on" in this very post that I'm responding to... Q.E.D. See, that's the difference between us, dear.

[quote]He wants to win the 'argument' he has hyper-focused on

ROFL... Dear, you're projecting again.

Oh, and dear heart? I already won the argument, dozens of posts ago. That's what drove you nuts.

Damn, this guy is worse than the asshole on the Dexter TV show thread. I actually thought it was the same person.

They mostly come out at night. Mostly.

true

[quote]But you can tell from his style of writing and the way he insists on gray highlighting so many parts that it is he.

Although DL has become overrun with clueless eldergays, I'm pretty sure more than one person knows how to use the gray-box quote function.

Holy Moley .... I still love Amazon Prime. Sue me, Mr. Cranky Eldergay. (I'll add you to my 'family' if you want to use it for free).

End Of Story - It's Not For Everyone.

My partner bought Amazon Prime this summer. His elderly parents live in a rural town that was in the middle of a heat wave. The air conditioner in their bedroom died, and everywhere in their small town (and the nearest slightly larger town) was out of air conditioners.

We live halfway across the country, but found a decent window unit and had it shipped to them with $3.99 one-day shipping. Yes, the air conditioner was priced somewhat higher than it would've been at a store, but it was delivered to their door the next day.

Since we had Prime, we started using it and have really jumped on board. Bought nearly all of our Christmas presents on it, and have slowly converted to buying lots of small household items with it too (otc meds, soap, that sort of thing).

It's not for everyone, but we love it.

[quote]By all means show me where I've said anything "crazy," won't you?

It's not any particular thing you've said, of course. It's your dozens of posts insisting that a crazy person on the Internet must either agree with you or be shown to the world be wrong.

Let it go, dude.

You resurrected this thread to say that? Quoting R203: "For the benefit of anyone who clicks on this thread, you might as well stop reading here. From here on, I'm just going to have fun with this troll."

[quote]that it can sell free shipping to some of its customers when it's already offering it to all of its customers is part of Amazon's formula for success.

LOL

Just got my final Christmas gifts today via Amazon Prime.

Fun thread.

I got a Amazon Gift Card for Prime Instant Videos...love it, been streaming a bunch of TV shows and movies!

What are you watching R255?

I've just started using Instant Video and so far

I've only found English mysteries and the early

Julia Child shows to watch.

I ordered something heavy that wasn't available locally. I needed it quickly, and shipping would have been slightly over $100. So I joined Amazon Prime, saved over $20, and the rest of the year has been gravy.

yummers!

I love Amazon Prime. I get about three shipments a week, not to mention all gifts throughout the year for family and friends, with lower prices than in stores and free shipping, no matter how many different addresses they're sent to.

I buy bulk pantry items, gourmet foods, books, music, vitamins, electronic equipment, a computer, a TV, office supplies, DVDs...really, just about everything I buy, even regular supplies. Cheaper, and delivered to my doorstep for free in two days.

Now watching 'New Year's Evil' on 'Prime'. Starring Roz Kelly (Pinky Tuscadero) as an over 40 New Wave Queen (DJ) hosting a New Year's show while a slasher goes around killing people she knows every strike of midnight (in all time zones).

Can't make this up.

With Grant Cramer as her 20 something neglected son.

Since this thread was started, Amazon has raised the price for Prime: it's now $99/year.

And they got a deal with HBO. I have prime but haven't checked out their streaming stuff in awhile, but they now have all the HBO shows and movies. Oz, Sopranos, Big Love, Deadwood, Rome, all of them! Holy shit! Way better than Netflix now.

I wonder if the crazy Anti-Prime troll is still around here.

That guy was fucking insane.

I remember this thread! The anti-prime troll is CLASSIC.

I LOVE my Amazon prime! My Netflix gets fucked up half the time--won't stream, cuts off in the middle of a movie, etc, but I've only had a couple minor issues with my Amazon streaming. Plus, Amazon has "Downton Abbey" and most of the older HBO shows like "The Wire" "Oz" "Carnivale"

The shipping pays for itself in a few items.

I would DEFINITELY recommend it!

I was kind of pissed that Amazon had automatically charged my bank account $99 for Prime a few weeks ago, but then I started really looking at what it offers. It seems much better than Netflix. I think it is worth the price.

I'm glad to see it has some of the HBO series. Now I won't have to use my brother-in-laws HBOGO log in. He gave it to me but I always feel dishonest when I use it.

They treat the workers like shit, like Walmart best to boycott this company.

I've had it for several years - it's still a great deal even at $99- especially if you do a lot of online shopping, which I do. The streaming of TV and movies is icing on the cake. Well worth it.

hate people like r5

Sorry --- bumping an old thread instead of creating a new one.

Amazon is now creating original movie programming for Prime members and theaters (like their TV programming, which I haven't really watched)

I wish they'd stop with the Amazon Unlimited Kindle program and increase the Kindle Lending Library (more allowed selections in a month and more available content to borrow)

Re Amazon selling data about customers: I know publishers would love to buy data generated from Kindle readers, but Amazon won't sell it to them.

What are some good movies?

American Snipper, Wild, Boyhood, The Intimidation Game

LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV PRIME!!!!!!

I ordered $100 worth of bulk granola bars. They sent the wrong flavor. I filled out an online return. Amazon told me to keep it then sent me the correct item. Win!

I loved it until I found out that you cannot watch Prime Video on an Android tablet.

[quote]I ordered $100 worth of bulk granola bars

Why would you do that?

Amazon is on my nerves. When doing decorating over the weekend I ran out of AA batteries. So rather than go to the store I figure "allright I'll see what Amazon has". They made it appear like if I ordered the box of batteries within the next hour I could get them the same day by 10 pm. I didn't really believe that but at least figured I'd have them by the end of the next day, which is pretty typical for them in my area. Today I get an email indicating to expect the batteries by Wednesday! I ordered them on Saturday morning around 9 am. A box of batteries! Had I known obviously I would've gone to the store.

I bought a case of Cento tomatoes, one can of which was dented to the point of being throwoutable. I called to complain, and they refunded the price of the entire case. Woo-hoo!

R278: Seeing how the most recent comment to this thread is four years old, perhaps your creating a new one with an applicable title would get more responses.

What I don't like with Amazon is how hard it is to get credit for products that were defective or which you never received. There used to be the ability to go right to your order, request Amazon to investigate. That's gone. Now you have to download a form, print it, fill it out and send it in for "review".

I just received an empty envelope with no product or invoice in it. Clearly it fell apart during shipment. This was Amazon's own contracted service and not UPS or USPS. The damn delivery guy actually put the ripped, empty envelope in my garage instead of handling it himself.

So, I'm buying more expensive stuff from a very good, *locally owned* hardware store and much less from Amazon.

r281 Call Amazon Customer Service on the phone. 1-888-280-4331.

Sometimes you need to call a couple of times to get someone you can understand, but once you do, they're usually very good about returns, defective products, bad shipments, etc.