Like there wasn't enough crazy in her family . . .
Not surprising that someone raised by Joe Jackson would turn out to have horrific self-esteem issues.
It's just a fad for her.
r3, her billionaire Muslim boyfriend, is not a fad. She's been with him for a number of years, and she'll probably end up marrying him.
I just can't understand a woman who would convert to Islam. Men with severe masculine issues, yes. Women? They've got to have severe self-esteem issues.
Diana was flirting with it too - to land a man.
To land the bucks. The prestige. It has nothing to do with the man.
Her career went into a tailspin because of the Super Bowl boob flop. Her chart-topping days are over, she is too old and there is too much competition to make a comeback. Converting to Islam maybe in her mind some way to redeem herself in the minds of the public from an overly sexualized performer to a demure lady. Or she could be rebelling against America by converting to Islam because they are the group that have bedeviled us for centuries now especially the last 10 years.
Don't all women have to cover their heads in Muslim countries? Maybe she's just being respectful and has no intention of converting to Islam, you never know.
r8, even so, the album she was promoting that year was horrible.
wouldn't she have to change her act a bit?
show me one place she says she's converting. or any kind of proof.
If you're travelling or visiting the family of your partner, sometimes you defer to their style of dress. Anyone who travels a lot knows this.
Now will she have to be circumsized?
Where's the proof?
So many of these responses are just ignorant. Being Muslim and a woman does not mean you have no self esteem, what's the crap about being circumsized. Its so unfortunate that people dont research before they post their comments.Uniformed people. Study the life of Imam Warith Deen Mohammed, then the Quran and maybe you will learn something about Al-Islam. Let people live their lives. It is great being people of faith.
A Muslim Woman
"t is great being people of faith."
how fine for you, dear. we wish you well.
in the mean time, Dar-al-Islam in this age has a lot to answer for as far as women's right are concerned. They are fine as one might consider themselves citizens of the 17th century, but not today.
[quote]It is great being people of faith.
well, aren't you special. we wish you the best.
R15, maybe Dar-al-Islam can answer for what shows to be a lot as far as women's rights are concerned? fine is one is talking about 3 hundred years ago, but now? I hate to look down my nose but it is often a blight on humanity the way women are treated.
This is SO not true. Tabloid fodder. She doesn't have a religious denomination. She always says she believes in having a one-on-one relationship with God as opposed to belonging to one particular religion.
[quote]In the mean time, Dar-al-Islam in this age has a lot to answer for as far as women's right are concerned. They are fine as one might consider themselves citizens of the 17th century, but not today.
Ditto for the roman catholic church.
[quote] She doesn't have a religious denomination.
The whole family are Jehovah's Witnesses
just to spice up the thread..........
she's broke and fat.
[quote]Don't all women have to cover their heads in Muslim countries?
No. How are you this uneducated?
Janet likes the anti-gay side of it.
Janet even did a duo with the violently anti-gay Dance Hall singer Beanie Man, a few years back.
The statement "Turning Muslim" sounds to me like fingernails on a chalkboard; sort of like when someone asks, "When did you turn Gay?" You BECOME a Muslim; You JOIN the Muslim Faith. All of that falls in with people who end all interrogatory questions with "at." Where is he AT? sheesh.
If you don't know the required wardrobe of every country on the planet, you are uneducated.
Meanwhile, most American's believe in creationism and that Saddam had WMD. But no, it's the HEADWEAR protocol of EVERY foreign country that determines if you are educated or not.
Women do not have to convert to marry a Muslim man.
[quote]The whole family are Jehovah's Witnesses
No. The only one's who are still Witnesses are Rebbie, Katherine and LaToya. Everyone else chose their own religion when they became of age (Jermaine is Muslim, Randy, I believe, is Catholic, etc.).
[quote]Janet likes the anti-gay side of it.
Janet even did a duo with the violently anti-gay Dance Hall singer Beanie Man, a few years back.
Could you be more misinformed? Janet Jackson loves the gays. Hell, her Velvet Rope album is like a battlecry for us. And, her duet with Beanie Man was more than a few years back (try 2002), and when she did it, she was unaware about the lyrical content of his music. Beanie Man has since renounced those anti-gay lyrics, anyway.
This way she can collect alms from her mother and still be holy.
And perhaps avoiding pork can help her diet.
No, one does not have to know the "headwear" of every country, but when a person just assumes *all* require it, then yes, one is uneducated.
La Toya is not a JW. She's trashed them. Her mother's a hypocrite. She didn't shun her non-believing kids, and she celebrates her birthday.
Katherine does not celebrate her birthday. She lets MJ's kids celebrate because that's what he did with them and that's what he would have wanted, but she doesn't celebrate anything.
I'm not familiar with JW -what with never answering the door- do they not celebrate birthdays?
[quote]Women? They've got to have severe self-esteem issues.
...or they've landed a billionaire Muslim as a bf and, since they've long since squandered the fortune they gained from their now-dead singing career, they have to play by the bf's rules of attire.
[quote]If you don't know the required wardrobe of every country on the planet, you are uneducated.
One of the stupidest comments I can recall seeing on DL. We have, what, 220 countries on the planet? And we're expected to know customary dress in ALL of them? Even in Muslim countries this varies widely, aside from a general rule that women should wear long sleeves and pants at the very least (and certainly more than that in the more conservative countries). But how the fuck should anyone know how to dress in, say, Burkina Faso, or in Myanmar (Burma), the latter being in an oppressive sub-tropical climate? What about China, where standards vary considerably depending on the city and whether you're in the country? Hell, even in the U.S. the standards aren't immutable; even in NYC they can vary widely (it is no longer mandatory, as it was in decades past, to wear formal wear to an occasion such as the ballet or an orchestra performance, or a suit to either a Broadway show or an upscale restaurant).
It's going to be one of those situations like when Paris Hilton got engaged to that Greek Paris guy. His family found out her fortune was more hype than truth and dumped her.
Janet's honey thinks he will be getting a big dowry. What's going to happen when he finds out she is broke?
[quote]aside from a general rule that women should wear long sleeves and pants at the very least (and certainly more than that in the more conservative countries)
Incorrect about the long sleeves in all of the countries.
The only reason her career bombed was because she was releasing horrible music. Age really doesn't have anything to do with it as long as you keep your sound updated. Nicki Minaj is 30, which used to be considered "ancient" for women in pop, but her career is successful because she updates her sound constantly.
Where has Janet been hiding? When is she going address the huge Jackson family meltdown a couple of months ago??
Janet is the fucking queen, she's here to stay. I'm tired of all the hate the Jacksons, particularly Janet, gets on this board. Janet Jackson is a legendary pop icon who has sold millions and millions of records all over the world. Her place in pop culture has been cemented and there's not a thing a bunch of hating queen on Data Lounge can do about it.
I can't wait for the new album.
To show respect for her new faith, she will now sing songs about cramming dicks in her pussy in Arabic.
R39: Truly, I live to hear what you drag queens in Dothan, Alabama think about the issues of the day . . .
I love R39.
I love R39, too... but probably not the way you do.
Someone that passionate about JJ has to be a mess.
The Jackson's are all weird. The worst is Victoria--she's got third stage syphilis written all over her face.
Andrew and Mahalia must be spinning in their graves.
I eat old people's excrement - especially if it's Janet's.
Was R39 the famous Janet Jackson troll, or are we still waiting for her to show up?
ww for R29!
No, R46, she's not me, but I'm here now. Continue.
It is sad to see the mind set of people in this so called age of vast knowledge...they are behaving like they have absolutely no education. If they were to study true Islam and not believe what they are fed..then they would realize that a Muslim woman has more rights than half of other women do. Do they feel that walking around naked for men to be starring them down as though they worth nothing is "Freedom of Rights" It is just the supposedly Muslim men who choose to treat women as they like but they will have to answer for that.
Has anyone mentioned that she's fat & broke?
[quote]a Muslim woman has more rights than half of other women do.
Kindly peddle your bullshit elsewhere.
Islam is misogynistic nonsense. It makes the misogynistic nonsense of Christianity seem like the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival in comparison.
I think it's funny that people think JJ is "normal". Well, maybe for a Jackson, but she's pretty out there, a little bit crazy.
Will Janbot also turn Muslim?
Just showing her face is now a wardrobe malfunction.
Even Hillary Clinton covers her head when in a Muslim country.
R67 is a bitch
R69 is just stupid
I remember it being 95 degrees outside and a couple got out of the car. The woman was covered from head to toe and the husband was wearing a short-sleeved bowling shirt, shorts and sandals.
I thought, "Islam is such bullshit."
[quote]Islam is misogynistic nonsense. It makes the misogynistic nonsense of Christianity seem like the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival in comparison.
Um, women can still get abortions in some Muslim countries -- abortions that the Republicans want to outlaw.
[quote]I remember it being 95 degrees outside and a couple got out of the car. The woman was covered from head to toe and the husband was wearing a short-sleeved bowling shirt, shorts and sandals.
[quote]I thought, "Islam is such bullshit."
So I guess by your logic, a walk through an Hasidic neighborhood would have you saying Judaism is also bullshit, right? Have you seen what they wear when the temp is high?
You're quite a simple-minded tool.
And yes, clearly I'm defending gay persecution, stoning, beheading, etc, etc, etc, -- being a simpleton, it's pretty easy to predict your idiocy.
[quote]So I guess by your logic, a walk through an Hasidic neighborhood would have you saying Judaism is also bullshit, right?
Absolutely! Fundamentalism anything is total bullshit. The Hasidic Jews are ridiculous fools. So are fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims.
We need to stop "respecting" stupid superstitions.
"Oh, I can't show my hair, so I have to show some Korean woman's hair as if it is mine!"
"Oh, I can't show my arms because it will make men rape me!"
"Oh, I can't drink booze even though the first miracle Jesus did wasn't to end world hunger it was to give his mother booze!"
[quote]Um, women can still get abortions in some Muslim countries -- abortions that the Republicans want to outlaw.
Really? Republicans are your gold standard of women's rights? They are just the Christian side of the fundamentalist coin that is fundamentalist Islam.
Neither is good nor sane.
[quote]"Oh, I can't drink booze even though the first miracle Jesus did wasn't to end world hunger it was to give his mother booze!"
A lil off topic but what Christians have told me was that it was not wine wine... it wasn't fermented "wine" they drank back then, it was like grape juice...
I thought Muslim don't eat pork? Why is he eating Janet?
She's so broke she'll do anything to get money, even become Muslim!
Just like Madonna, she is another zero-talent who owes her whole career to blatantly ripping off others.
I don't get how these two grifters rose to the top while true talents like Jody Watley, Neneh Cherry, Karen White fell to the wayside.
Ahem, pardon moi, R79, but the albums and music videos of Karen White, Nia Peeples, Paula Abdul, Vanessa Williams, Pebbles et. al. were all made possible because of trhe success of "Control". All of these ladies' music videos, images and sounds screamed Janet circa 1986. Janet was THE dance diva of color in the '80s, and when "Control" became a smash, record companies were trying to find the next Janet. As for Jody, as original and talented as she is, even her debut album came in the wake of "Control".
I am not surprised so many Europeans have something negative to say about Janet and her family. Your cultureare haters on everyone anyway. If she's happy the be happy for her. She tried it the European way for years and now she's returning to her roots. Many of us came her under force and OUR CULTURE was Islam, among other religions. Arabia was all Black before the invasion of White Arabs. So, we understand she's going home and many Moorish women will follow. Congrats Janet!!!!! I love you and hope. The best!
MashAllah!!! I am soooooooooo happy for her. Those who denigrate Ms. Jackson's relationship with Mr. Al Mana ARE JUST JEALOUS. Middle Eastern Muslim women are among the most intelligent, entrepreneurial, proactive women in the world. And we are PAMPERED! :D It is a very small percentage of Muslim women who are abused, her family would go over and kick that guys a$$. He would not want to repeat the experience cause next time he might not outlive it.
There are plenty of woman abusers right in the good ole' USA, trailer trash that beat their wives daily ever time they get drunk, which is every day. I have been reading the papers for far over 50 years and these wife abuse/killings never stop, they were always common. Unfortunately still common not counting the serial killers (est. 200 are at work in the USA at ANY GIVEN TIME), the molesters, and the just plain evil.
So don't be so quick to demonize Ms. Jackson because she MAY marry a Muslim, its not even announced yet officially. There are plenty of you out there with dirty drawers and you know how you are.
Paris Jackson can't wait.
She's doing it for the Burqas. To hide her bloat when she's not touring.
A little self-projection there Jabba aka R84?
[quote]Just like Madonna, she is another zero-talent who owes her whole career to blatantly ripping off others.
There was a bizarre little rumor about a year ago that Madonna was returning to Catholicism. Not just any Cahtholicism, but Opus Dei. She visited some OD center, blah, blah. This sounds like more of the same.
Janet Jackson regularly associates with anything anti-gay. Mormons, Dance Hall Singers etc.
I find it curious that all the Jacksons have religion issues. You know the family was Jehovah Witnesses for a very long time? Michael certainly was and so is Katherine.
Joe was a monster true enough, but you can't excuse Katherine from culpability.
I think KAtherine certainly enjoys being the Matriarch for a celebrated family, and all the perks and money she accesses.
Janet's crazy. This won't last.I got the impression she wanted to develop her acting career. Will she really be willing to walk ten paces behind and cover her self?
Even modern muslim women cover their heads in public. Long sleeves, long skirts. The part about being subordinate to a man? Hey. Funnily enough I think that part doesn't bother her. She has an established pattern of subordinating and looking at men as "in charge."
[quote] A lil off topic but what Christians have told me was that it was not wine wine... it wasn't fermented "wine" they drank back then, it was like grape juice...
Protestant nonsense concocted during temperance and prohibition. Wine is wine and grape juice is grape juice. Ancient Jews drank wine. There was no way to preserve unfermented grape juice and grape juice does not kill bacteria that is in water. Jewish wine was partly water. The fermented wine helped kill bacteria in polluted water.
[quote]Janet Jackson regularly associates with anything anti-gay. Mormons, Dance Hall Singers etc.
You're too stupid to even dignify with a response, but I will.
What mormon has she ever associated with? And the Dance Hall thing was a mistake on her part, as she admitted not knowing about Beenie Man's anti-gay lyrics when they collaborated. There is no etc., because, if anything, Janet has always been seen as a champion of gay people/causes. Hence her heralded gay-friendly "Velvet Rope" album, her being honored with the GLAAD Vanguard Award, and her big following in the gay community.
Allahu akbar!Allahu akbar!.may yahdil Lahu fa huwal muhtad.may Allah strengthen her imaan and ours too.
It is truly amazing what defenders of anti-gay religions and people think "gay friendly" means.
Janet Jackson want to cover her nose with burqa
Most of the Jackson clan were strong supporters of the violently anti-gay Jehovah Witness cult.
R82, the difference is, in the US it is illegal. And, it is illegal in the US for Christians, Jews and Muslims.
Ban all organized Religion!
Why would Janet want to become a muslim now? Why did Jermaine became a muslim?
R97, why does anyone join a religion?
Haters, so many haters.
Fuck you all.you guys are sick!,it has nothing to do with who she was raised with or whatever the fuck you mean..I respect her for that & they said she became a Muslim..not a bad thing so clam your tits people!
She became a Muslim because she thinks she can make money being a Muslim. Fashion lines in Saudi Arabia ? Get it?
The Jackson family is a vortex of anti-gay Religions in general.
This happens once one discovers true self and when you seek assurance. Maybe you guys with the negative comments try to be one just for one day and feel that phenomenal emotion,
I loved JJ's music during my youth, but I always found her off putting. She seems like a human house of cards, ready to topple over. I think she's just as weird and damaged as the rest of the Jacksons.
She's being honored at the amfAR galla in NYC next month, just before Fashion Week, alongside Kenneth Cole and Heidi Klum.
I was about to say the same thing, r5. So many Black people (the woman AND the men, interestingly) have been bleaching their skin. People did it in an isolated way beforehand, very VERY few and it was understood that it was self-hating and frowned upon. It was more popular in certain places, you would see Congolese celebs doing it and more heavily in the Caribbean. I knew once the glass was broken, there'd be no going back. Now, when you look at the top Black/African celebrities a good percentage are bleaching, when before a nose job and weave was as far as it would go. Beyonce does it, so does Rihanna, Even Keri Hilson has started. It's funny how people forget what they USED to look like. If you go back and look at their pictures from the first few years they were out, their skin was a very different shade that can't be explained by our normal color variances which occur over time and during different seasons.
Now, you bring it up no matter how obvious it is and people attribute it to some racial admixture. Tamar is another big bleacher.
How does skin bleaching work. How does it make skin lighter without causing horrible damage?
Janet was never a dark skinned woman. She's not Mariah-light, but she's nowhere near Angela Bassett-brown, or even Whitney Houston for that matter. Her tone is more medium-to-light brown, and the make-up she wears makes her look even lighter at times.
r105, Janet was born into a very weird life to begin with. She was always famous. Women who become so successful in show business generally are demanding like Madonna, Mariah, the rest. I dont think Janet is any different. Dont be fooled by the soft voice and sweet interviews. LA Reid said Janet was the hardest person he ever worked with in his career, and he has worked with everybody. She knows exactly what she wants and doesnt let anybody tell her what to do.
[quote]And the Dance Hall thing was a mistake on her part, as she admitted not knowing about Beenie Man's anti-gay lyrics when they collaborated.
What the fuck? Why would you agree to record with someone and not even know their music?
That makes zero sense.
Well, R111, they were label-mates, so it's likely his people contacted her people, and there was something hurriedly put in place without her being able to get to know all about his music.
"Janet is the fucking queen,"
No, dear. Michael was the fucking queen. Janet was merely a lady in waiting and as such did not inherit the title upon Queen Michael's passing.
Who cares? By mid-century, everyone will be Muslim.
If she would fuck that troll Jermaine Dupri for a few hit singles, she'll do anything.
BTW, Mariah still got dibs on the best tracks anyway.
It's a business opportunity. That's it.
she is a fat, crazy bitch. Sorry Janbot, but she is fat.
Fat, I tell you.
She's just FAT.
Madonna is thinking: "Janet who? Oh yeah, that fat actress that got burned with an iron many years ago in the slums of Chicago"
Madonna is thinking: what happened to my career and face?
Janet has arrested development, and is not bright. What is with that baby voice?! She is seriously damaged, and a weirdo.
She's now cemented as Jackson trash thanks to the tit, the constant sex simulation on songs and stage, and now the kidnapping of her mother for money.
Is Janet is so beloved, then why can't she sell records or concert tickets anymore?
[quote]Madonna is thinking: "Janet who?"
Really? I guess that's why her dancer said she looked very "Janet Jackson, Rhythm Nation" in Truth or Dare, why Janet's "Feedback" was in Madonna's ipod a few years back, and why she ripped Janet's RN vibe off big time in this laughably bad militant rendition of "Holiday"...
[quote]If Janet is so beloved, then why can't she sell records or concert tickets anymore?
Her last album debuted at #1. Since then she's done films, signed a film production deal with Lionsgate, and penned a NY Times #1 Bestseller. All of those things took away from her singing career.
Her last tour, an up close and personal show, which was built upon going where fan demand was greatest, sold out around the world.
[quote]She is seriously damaged, and a weirdo.
So's your mother
[quote]She's now cemented as Jackson trash thanks to the tit, the constant sex simulation on songs and stage, and now the kidnapping of her mother for money.
No. She's long been cemented as a pop icon and the blueprint-creator for the modern-day dance diva (Britney, J-Lo, Ciara, Kelly Rowland, etc.). As for her kidnapping her own mother, well, Janet is worth upwards of $150 million, so her dearly departed brother's money she does not need. Also, you'd have to be a complete dolt to believe the ramblings of one of MJ's spoiled adopted kids. Oh, wait, look at who I'm talking to...
R27 is not even trying anymore.
this is absolute nonsense .. not the post ..the replies.. dnt b rediculous..if there s any society standing fr women rights its the Islamic society .. iif smthng bad s happening then its not tht all Muslims are bad.. read surah Nisa frm Quran.. n its clearly written how its beneficial for a woman to cover her head..Islam is not just a religion..its a way of living a life..