It's been my experience in the teaching world that elementary school teachers do tend to vote Republican. They usually have husbands who make good money so they can "afford" to.
Middle/High/College tend to vote Democratic.
"Lawyer - Republican"
Some are, some aren't. There are a lot of lawyers in the Democratic Party, including a few Presidents, you know.
[quote]Lawyer - Republican
Not in my experience.
"Military - Republican"
Some, not all. Lots of the military voted for Obama in 2008
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Here's an article complaining about how much money the trial lawyers give to the Democrats:
Wrong, R20, I know Iraq war veterans who voted for Obama. A lot of soldiers say they would have shot Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld right in the face had the opportunity presented itself.
According to exit polls taken on the day of the election, 44% of those with a military background voted for Obama, and 54% percent of those with a military background voted for McCain (while 2% voted for others).
Lopsided, but not overwhelmingly so. A fair number of those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan voted for Obama.
OP, teachers typically vote for Democrats and belong to one of the largest unions (the National Education Association).
R24 clearly never read past the OP.
And yeah, as others have said being in academia is overwhelmingly progressive. I think it is a great environment and love the people.
Doctors are no longer a Republican career. That image of old white country club men who own their own practice is an outdated picture of physicians.
Hey this was easy.
Lawyers and teachers are overwhlemingly Republican?
Only on DL, folks, only on DL (you can't make this shit up!)
Which is exactly why uneducated whites overwhelming vote Republican while people with the highest level of education overwhelming vote Democrat R26.
Engineers tend to be republican. Of course the mililtary skews towards republicans.
Engineer, Computer = Democrat
Engineer, Manufacturing = Republican
Engineer, Civil = either one
[quote]Lawyers and teachers are overwhlemingly Republican?
[quote]Only on DL, folks, only on DL (you can't make this shit up!)
"Teachers" was a joke and/or shit stirring, "lawyers" was ignorance.
There might have been SOME military youth who vote liberally but the majority of the Armed Forces personnel is historically conservative and religious.
I am an engineer and they are essentially Rethugs and all are annoying...
I know a lot of engineers who are democrat.
I hate the contrarian idiots in these sorts of threads.
Yes. there are exceptions to everything. But these threads are more GENERALIZATIONS. What don't you understand about that?
Do you really want us to believe that the US Military is now a liberal organization? Get real.
Doctors=Democrats. They are the financial base of the Democratic party, which is why health care reform has not attacked their incomes, even though that would be in the national interest, since they make too much and are operating a cartel to restrict the supply of health services and keep prices artificially high.
Trial Lawyers=split between Dems and Republicans, despite the hate campaign.
For example Greenberg Traurig, which blackmailed the RC Church about child abuse, was almost solidly republican from top to bottom, as well as Bush family intimates.
Corporate CEOS=Republican, with almost no Democrats. CEO's were 95% for GHWB in 1992 and it has only gotten worse, despite the highly publicized few (Geffen, Gill) who are in the Democratic camp. Indeed, one of the things Wall Street will no longer allow is a liberal as CEO. Any company thinking of such a move cannot maintain its Wall Street relationships.
Wall Street and the rich=Mostly republican, but they like to have a finger on the other party too. Rich families will often split up their allegiances (for instance in 2008 the Pritzkers ran finance for BOTH the Obama and Clinton campaigns, and they had somebody working with one of the Republicans as well).
Media=Republicans. This is the fault of the weak genes of the old family news dynasts, who were not able to stand up to the CIA and Pentagon and Republican criminals.
[quote]But these threads are more GENERALIZATIONS.
I posted several links above that show most lawyers are Democrats and that most lawyers give money to Democrats and the Repugs are ticked off about it.
Public sector union, except for public safety unions(police, fire, prison guards) who support whomever they think will win.
[quote]Doctors=Democrats. They are the financial base of the Democratic party, which is why health care reform has not attacked their incomes, even though that would be in the national interest, since they make too much and are operating a cartel to restrict the supply of health services and keep prices artificially high.
There is so much wrong with this. Doctors in general are not outlandishly paid and they are NOT the problem when it comes to why healthcare services are absurdly expensive.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
Most print journalists are simply too poor to vote Republican, assuming they were also stupid and self-deluded.
Their median income is $250,000 a year, which in a country where most people earn under $40,000 is outrageous and unsustainable and certainly not justified by their training or expertise R42. Doctors are the American OPEC. Of course medical companies and pharmaceutical companies are entirely GOP.
OP = Freeper Koch Brother Sock Puppet
Sounds like the Republicans are angry that lawyers support Democrats:
"For starters, the Democrats are the party of lawyers. Not only were lawyers their largest contributors in 2010, giving 81% of their donations to Democrats, but Democratic ranks are crawling with lawyers. In the last Senate, 35 of the 54 lawyers in the Senate were Democrats. In the last House, 106 of the 162 lawyers were Democrats.
The Democrats also like to nominate lawyers. The Obamas are both lawyers, as were the Clintons. In fact, every Democratic Presidential nominee since 1984 was a lawyer (Gore didn’t graduate but did go to law school), as was every VP nominee since 1976 except Lloyd Benson. By comparison, the last Republican President/nominee who was a lawyer was Gerald Ford."
OP's post of "teachers vote Republican" is stupefyingly insane.
Amen, R41. I can't believe how long this myth has continued. My dad is a retired country doctor from Washington State. He used the barter system when people had no money for medical care. The man took everything from fresh fish and (I'm not joking) totem poles in exchange for medical care. He was on call 24 hours a day. He is not a wealthy man. I am so tired of people taking a shit on doctors.
Becoming a doctor is incredibly difficult,time-consuming and expensive and they actually provide a crucial service to the populace and have to carry a high cost and personal liability.
They should be paid well. Compared to financial industry folks and business executives who take home far more money without being nearly as accomplished or useful to society I am not sure why you are complaining about their income.
And it is the healthcare corporate interests that make medicine so expensive, which Doctors hate just like you do.
Career=income and neither are the greatest factor in determining how an individual votes. FAMILY is the number one factor.
Journalists=95 percent Democrats.
I agree, R48. 100% correct.
Which is why journalism has been "cut off" by the powers that be and is no longer a real profession R50. Meanwhile most of your high paid "news anchors" are rethuglicants.
Sorry R47 and R48 but you are full of shit.
There is a shortage of "country doctors" precisely because it doesn't pay. But the profession refuses to open new medical schools or support socialized medicine to bring health care to regions underserved by capitalism. The reason why medical care, despite our unethical "fee for service" system, was relatively affordable in the 50s and 60s was because a liberal Congress in the 1950s actually more than doubled the number of medical schools, something the doctors have managed to prevent from ever happening again.
They make becoming a doctor hard because it is a cartel. Instead of scientific education by people interested in care, you get what amounts to a hazing by people interested in money and status. But doctors aren't better trained than say architects, most of whom can't even find jobs in their field and who make starvation wages for the most part when they do.
I always laugh when the right-wing accuses CNN of being too liberal. A lot of CNN anchors are Republicans. Look at how many have ended up on FOX:
How do you know the medical profession doesn't pay, R52? Based on salary for job postings ranging up to the 80K-100K for Physician Assistants and Nurses, I would say so.
Then Doctor's 150K +.
Any profession that deals with life and death situations on a daily basis deserve to paid accordingly. I would never begrudge a medical doctor or nurse of their income.
I also believe that police, firefighters and especially teachers should be well compensated and have full benefits and pensions.
Financial assholes who makes millions from manipulating a few numbers and gambling with millions of peoples' pension funds is quite another story.
I agree with a lot of the points R56 makes
Classical musician = democrat
I've been one for over twenty years and I've met maybe five musicians who vote republican.
"Any profession that deals with life and death situations on a daily basis deserve to paid accordingly."
I think every working person deserves a living wage, but going to medical school shouldn't entitle you to automatically make 5x the average national income, especially since most medical professionals do not deal with "life and death" situations on a daily basis. Every botox pimp out there trots out that line to justify their obscene incomes.
Porn stars vote Democrat. I spoke to 50 this weekend.
R37, many doctors don't make big bucks. That is really a false assumption. The insurance companies have them over a barrel the same as the rest of us.
Big liar R61. Yes the insurance companies try to rip them off, but doctors have more power to fight back than the average person. Yes you will find some practitioners who pay say 60K per year in malpractice insurance. But since those same practitioners are making 300-400K per year in their specialty, it doesn't make them poor or even middle class.
A doctor should not be poor or middle class. It takes a lot to be a doctor, they should earn a respectable salary. And what they earn, especially considering their expenses, is pittance compared to what their counterparts in some other industries earn. I don't see why that is so hard to understand.
Yes a doctor earns more than an average family, they are still on the bottom of the "elite" in American incomes.
Gun store owners: Republican
MCC pastors: Democrats
OP is right about teachers at least in the south. I wish I had known about illegal search and seizure in 5th grade when those backward ass teachers rounded up all the minority students and tore into our backpacks because "someone stole five dollars from Mrs. Brown's desk"
If you were a minority and poor you were in that room, it crushed me for a while because I'd thought so highly of my teachers before that.
I know already...Mary!
R63, you could say the same thing about engineers, architects, blah blah blah. The fact is the people who make this country wealthy are the ones who make stuff: cars, planes, electronics, etc. And they are usually paid by the hour. You are making a VALUE JUDGEMENT which is insane and foolish. PhD's typically are more educated than doctors but make much less. Ballet dancers are ten times more disciplined and hard working and they make starvation wages when they get work. Your facile statements about how much doctors SHOULD earn is no better than Communism. Doctors should earn what society (those people paid by the hour) can afford, and not one fucking dime more. If doctors didn't restrict entry to their profession and hold their numbers down...they would make less than half what they currently make. Period.
Doctors should earn what people are willing to pay them. Oh wait...they do.
Hedge fund managers/finance people like bankers are usually Democrats.
2012 is proving to be an exception to the rule.
Rabbis - Orthodox, Republican.
Rabbis - All Others, Democrat.
[quote] Factory worker - Democrat
Not in the red state rust belt. Even most of the auto industry factory workers in Indiana are Republicans who won't give Obama credit for anything. Any other industry and they're *all* Republicans. Most of the manufacturing companies won't let their workers unionize, not that they'd want to. And you know right-to-work just passed in Indiana, too.
False R68. Hedge fund managers are not Democrats.
Trial lawyers=Democrats, but trial lawyers are a minority of lawyers these days. Most lawyers work for corporations and while I can't say a majority are republican, it is enough to make them fucking dangerous.
There are mixes with all careers.
Best way to break down demographics is by gender:
Males - Republican
Females - Democratic
Rs win males before females. Ds win females before males. If a R or D wins big enough, he/she pulls in the gender that is not first to vote for his/her party.
R71- Usually (I didn't say most much less all) significant portions of the financial sector including hedge fund managers have been Democrats and been true for a very long time.
Nonsense R74. You obviously don't know any.
anyone - to the last standing man - employed in the performing arts votes left.
Accountants = Republicans. I worked for KPMG in NYC and Philly; freepers galore. But the men accountants are surprisingly prissy.
[quote]Lawyer - Republican
Those on the prosecution side of things.
Defense lawyers, nah. Typically Democrat.
Service workers: Democrats
Is he a Republican, or is he one of those idiots working for Fox, who just says whatever he's told in order to get a paycheck?
Remember how many people wanted to blow him on here for year?
Librarians = Democrats
Book store employees = Democrats
Journalists = Democrats
Teachers = Democrats
Everyone who reads and tries to learn more about the world votes for Democrats.
Doctors in the former Soviet Union made less than blue collar workers. And they were arguably better doctors than we have in the US. They just lacked the fancy equipment we have here. But they were great doctors in spite of that technology disadvantage.
R80, Bill Hemmer is gay, isn't he?
Truth be told, there is little difference between Republican and Democrats today. It is all theater of illusion.
What about lawyers?
Actually, Republicans were fond of pointing out that Soviet life expectancy was declining, allegedly due to that circumstance.
But it is true for sure that European doctors excel American doctors in quality AND they make a lot less money AND their patients live longer.
More honest examples please, I find this to be fascinating.
Regular, normal people....Republican
If you find one military personnel, not the lazy ass that sits on base in Texas all day, or the pussies that have never seen any actual combat, but the ones that were/are in a war, rather it be Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, ect., that is democrat I will be die from surprise.
Hookers tend to vote Democratic, whereas male escorts are more likely to vote Republican, as instructed by their employers.
Is this true? Hard to say, but OP sucked up all of my brain cells with his astonishing stupidity.
Any union member - Democrat
Any person perceiving chaotic living conditions with a lack of law and order - Republican
Ranchers - Republican
Dopers - Democrat
Hookers - Democrat
Musicians - Democrat
a no-named mouse (anonymouse)
Video Store employees when not enough late fees are able to be collected with support of local government and fair minded citizens - Republican
Video Store employees without any inkling of common sense or basic awareness - Democrat
Video Store employees with inappropriate crushes on younger female employees - Occupy Movement Sympathizers
Old English 800
Teachers UNIONS support Democrats with money because Democrats support teachers/education in legislation. Whether teachers individually vote Democrat is another issue.
[quote]If you find one military personnel, not the lazy ass that sits on base in Texas all day, or the pussies that have never seen any actual combat, but the ones that were/are in a war, rather it be Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, ect., that is democrat I will be die from surprise.
Not terribly difficult. You'll find that most states, cities, districts etc will have an organization of Democratic veterans.
And btw: most hawks are Republicans... Or hadn't you noticed?
I'm still a law student but most of the lawyers I have met, including my professors, were democrats. I'm a democrat and most of my classmates are deocrats or at least consider themselves liberal or progressive.