Marlo Thomas says Penn State would have never happened if women had been around
Bitch don't know shit. Bitches lie and coverup too.
Have another, mom
I should have given you to God when you were born r1.
Penn State is an all men's school?
Well, this one certainly came out of left field.
Has anyone heard what Joan van Ark's position on the Penn State situation is?
Does OP have a link to this statement? Of course he doesn't, because she never said it.
I would tell you, but my lips no longer have blood circulating through them!
I could have kept them busy, Mare. And educated, too.
She said it on the Joy Behar show the last Friday
they play at Beaver Stadium....what more does she want?
I'm especially interested in what Penny Singleton has to say on the matter.
OP, don't forget to let us know what Larry Storch thinks.
I don't even know what that means.
if there were woman in the chain of commende they would have not covered the story up. Bill Maher said the same thing.
Ann Jillian called for Paterno's immediate resignation. It's largely believed that her statements pressured the Board into removing Paterno as head coach.
Women tend to be the whistleblowers within organizations.
Joyce Dewitt just said on "The Florence Henderson Show" that this would have happened if John Ritter was in charge.
Marlo is a powerful feminist icon who writes for the Huffington Post, not a TVLand trivia question you bitches!!!
Ms Gloria Steinem (fucked silly by Christian Bale's father...then he died)
That's bullshit, R14. I'm sure mother superiors and other nuns covered for pedo priests.
Rene Portland's Worst Nightmare
R20 Jennifer Harris is a lesbian, but when the whole Rene Portland thing happened she stayed tight lipped and hid in the closet.
[quote]Bitch don't know shit. Bitches lie and coverup too.
by: Jacey Dugard
Quoted for truth.
Ruth Buzzi just held a press conference and said she would've hit him with her purse.
Remember that girl who was kept in the box under that couple's bed? The wife was in the car with their baby when they abducted her.
Bullshit. PEOPLE are twisted fuckers, not just men. I have too many friends whose own mothers allowed their kids to be victimised and not only allowed it, but at times encouraged it. They certainly never sought help or spoke up.
Because the women football coaches would have been fired for being terrible and so the pedo wouldn't have been able to hide in football team protection for decades?
Right. Because Mrs. Sandusky called the police the first time she saw Jer in the basement 'wrestling' an eight year-old boy.
I have yet to hear the full analysis from Victoria Jackson.
Given the dynamics of this scandal, she is probably right!
That's an interesting article R30. Amazingly, it's a perspective I hadn't considered.
And Penn State was one of the most homophobic athletic departments around as evidenced by their longstanding support for Rene Portland.
[quote]Women tend to be the whistleblowers within organizations.
Lower level employees tend to be whistleblowers since their relative distance from the top allows then to see the dirty underbelly of the top level.
Women in a threatened power position would cover up just as much -- they do so in schools all the time.
That girl would never have been allowed within 10 feet of Penn State.
She's totally right. It's in those men only chain of commands where the worst shit happens.
Same in the church. I find it hard to believe you'd find as many women willing to help cover up child molestation at such a grand scale.
I've said this before; if men are in positions of power, they need to be supervised. They can't be trusted.
I think there would be less of an outrage had he abused little girls. That would have been considered more "normal".
Thank you for providing a link to that article, r30.
I don't know. It's not uncommon for wives of abusers to cover for their husbands, even when the victims are their own children.
Mary Kay Letourneau
Women are still too invested in victimhood. Nothing is ever their fault/responsibility cuz they are just poor, little, defenceless females. Yes, I'm over-generalizing.
Yes, it is uncommon, r39. The women who sit around and do nothing while their children are abused are the minority and are sickos. Most mothers go to great lengths to protect their children.
Marlo is right, just look at the hundreds of brave whistle blowing nuns who managed to put a permanent end to all the child abuse in the Catholic Church back in 1750.
Bill Maher said the same thing.
I suppose there were no women at Abu Ghraib and Auschwitz either.
R42 I don't have statistics so I used not uncommon to denote that it is something we hear frequently, not necessarily the majority of cases. I assume and hope you are correct.
As far as I know, the majority of men do not molest children or even turn a blind eye to it, but I would also say that molestation is not uncommon.
A very relevant example is Donna Shalala looking the other way as the University of Miami football team was showered with money & other gifts by a wealthy supporter. Not exactly a pedo scandal, but somewhat related.
[quote] if there were woman in the chain of commende
R44, you know the names of those women because it is just so fucking rare. Women can do evil things to be sure but it really is that rare.
You should've seen my FB page light up with disgust and a lynch mob mentality about those Penn State monsters. All women.
I think if a woman had come across some guy fucking a small child in the shower? She would have scratched his eyes out. At the very LEAST called the cops and told everyone she knew about it. It's our maternal instincts.
I've seen female dominated societies portrayed in science fiction films of the 1950's and they never work out once a man enters the scene.
I'm willing to give a statement.
Me too! Take my statement!
Marlo is a feminist icon as well as a television icon. Comparing her with some of these other actresses is a bit ridiculous. Let's cool it, shall we?
Ok Phil @ R52.
No, women have now entered primary educational institutions so they can fuck their students and get a slap on the wrist when caught.
[quote] Women can do evil things to be sure but it really is that rare.
Having been molested myself, I'm available for comment.
[quote]Women can do evil things to be sure but it really is that rare.
The trick is not to get caught doing evil.
Oh Lorna, don't be shilly, they're not talking about self moleshation.
Has Charlotte Rae made a statement yet?
I'd give more credence to her views since she once played "Mrs. Garrett" who worked at the all-girls Eastlake Academy. All I've ever seen Marlo do is wear hats and fly a kite.
Yeah, because no female teacher has ever tried to have sex with young male students...
Has anyone been following Peter Roebuck story? Kind of like Penn State, only it involves cricket, an Englishman with a whipping fettish and dozens of hot black men.
[quote]an Englishman with a whipping fettish and dozens of hot black men.
That hard part is finding even one black man willing to be whipped.
Marlo, with her extreme plastic surgery, is a feminist icon.
Is it true that Eggs Marlo Thomas is pig snouts served on a glass ceiling?
Gah dah fah ah-haa.
Women are the nastiest perpetrators of mobbing behavior -- particularly in female-dominant workplaces.
Hopefully Marlo's courage in speaking out will finally shame Shelley Duvall into addressing this issue, as the world has been waiting for.
Women are adept at normalizing depraved behavior. They might have different social patterns guiding them, but within those social structures, they'll hide, overlook and excuse criminal acts.
Marlo should STFU.
Has anyone heard from Margot Kidder on this?
Sally Struthers has released a statement guaranteeing that this would never have been tolerated by the higher-ups at the International Correspondence School.
She also mentioned that you can major in Bookkeeping
TV/VCR Repair, Air Conditioning Repair, Learning the Personal Computer, Fitness and Nutrition...
The continuation of Sally's statement
@r69: You do realize the reason this molestation went on as long as it did was because MEN overlooked what was going on or didn't think it was serious enough to alert the authorities?
I don't think women are all angels, but men are certainly no strangers to sweeping things under the rug or looking the other way when bad things happen.
Anyone who thinks Marlo Thomas is anything but a washed-up brat of a D lister is kidding themselves. She's practically a ventriloquist dummy for Gloria Steinam when they're out together.
And, on top of that, I used to work for a "movie star" in L.A. and it got to the point where I figured out if she was friends with them, they were major CUNTS -- with the exceptioun of Lanie Kazan and Kaye Ballard, both nutty but kind. One of her best friends and the biggest cunt of all? Yep, Marlo Thomas. And not just on a bad day. Always a snotty bitch. So bad I vowed never to watch her again.
Everything that butler wrote about her in that book was true, I assure you. She was a friggin' nightmare of a woman.
Has Sandy Duncan (another nightmare) weighed in on Penn State yet?
Wow, PLEASE tell us about Sandy Duncan being a nightmare, r74 - I'd never have guessed that!
Also would love to hear stories about Kaye Ballard and Lainie Kazan. Did you ever hear Lainie say anything about Streisand?
P.S. I have no issue with the fact that women are usually the whistleblowers -- but they never do it anonymously or to do the right thing. They have to take credit for it, get the media attention, etc. So hardly because they are of better character.
I have learned however that if you have a secret (and hopefully that secret is NOT child abuse of any kind, so awful), don't share it with a woman and expect some brotherhood of secrecy. Won't happen.
I have a call in to Jaclyn Smith and am waiting to hear back
[quote]You do realize the reason this molestation went on as long as it did was because MEN overlooked what was going on or didn't think it was serious enough to alert the authorities? I don't think women are all angels, but men are certainly no strangers to sweeping things under the rug or looking the other way when bad things happen.
I'm not claiming that men don't overlook things. I'm arguing that Marlo's assertion that women wouldn't have overlooked crimes is bullshit. Men overlook things and women overlook things. They have different social methods for normalizing crimes, but neither sex has the moral high ground.
Don't set your drink on Marlo's coffee table--whatever you do.
She inherited it from her father.
Marlo's statement is so refreshing considering Vicki Lawrence's outspoken support for JoePa and anger at his firing.
Did you hear Ann B. Davis is calling for the death penalty for Sandusky?
She's an idiot.
"Women are still too invested in victimhood. Nothing is ever their fault/responsibility cuz they are just poor, little, defenceless females. Yes, I'm over-generalizing."
I guess that's why rape is still likely to be blamed on the victim (mostly female)? Because of what she was wearing, where she was walking, and if she'd been drinking.
Because it isn't ever the fault of the male rapist.
Child molesters are mostly male, btw.
R83, are you posting from Saudi Arabia? Because that shit about rape being blamed on the (female) victim hasn't been true in the U.S. for about 35 years.
C U N T
After her early statements on the subject, Bonnie Franklin withholds further comment after an embarrassing episode from her own past is leaked to the press.
Tracey Gold has come out in full support of Marlo. I usually agree with Tracey on all political and social issues.
Tracey is a cunt too.
Unfortunately it's still very common, r84. I'm speaking from experience.
No Streisand talk, R75, was much younger and more sensitive back then, ha, and she was nice so not interested in upsetting her. DID however go to her daughter's bat mitzvah -- held at a famous LA drag palace. That was pure Lanie.
Speaking of which, Lanie Kazan is on the fence regarding Penn State, awaiting a second opinion from Elaine May.
Yes, Penn State was all women's fault. What in the fuck is wrong with you misogynistic freaks?
Elaine May has officially weighed in (above).
It's a fact, women are less violent and depraved then men. Sure, you can name 3 or 4 famous sickos who happen to have a vagina but for every 3 you name there are five thousand men, rotting in prison for acts that are just as much or more immoral. And those are just the ones who got caught.
The VAST majority of sex offenders? Men. Women tend to ebophiles or whatever you most of the weirdos in this thread would call it.
R91, the thread was started on an indirectly misandrist approach, so what sort of responses do you expect.
r91 reads approximately two words in each sentence and decides she knows what the hell she's talking about. The rest of us point and laugh at her.
Danny Thomas a D lister? Put down the crack pipe. The man starred in two successful television shows and was a household name for forty years. We should all be so unknown.
Marlo is only washed up in the sense that she's old and can't get the parts that she got in her youth. For three decades, she was a staple of television and film. She broke down doors with THAT GIRL and her FREE TO BE specials. She is THAT influential to the feminist cause.
And I'm not even getting into St. Jude.
I'm stopping, because you ain't taking me any further.
[quote]It's a fact, you can name 3 or 4 famous sickos who happen to have a vagina. And those are just the ones who got caught.
Fixed it R91 & R93- the poster more concerned about touting a political agenda than child abuse.
Danny Thomas is a D lister as in D-D-D-Dead. But I was referring to his daughter anyway, who is one of those feminists who treats other women like shit, fires her maid for getting pregnant, etc. A true inspiration.
If you like, to be fair, you can move Marlo up to C List as in C-C-C-Cunt.
I know of what I speak, frau
But what about Kaye Ballard and especially the nightmarish Sandy Duncan??
No Bonnie Franklin's opinion, no credibility.
The reason The Second Mile is shutting down is because Didi Conn released a statement recommending it close.
Even the Lavendar Menace wouldn't make this big of a self embarrassment.
She just may have eclipsed my political faux pas.
Not to hijack thread but Kaye Ballard was just what you'd expect, a little neurotic but the fun aunt you'd want. Effusive. Not an act.
Louise Lasser, another of her friends, was the "a little neurotic" part but without the rest of it. She bleated.
Here's my daily phonecall with.... well, guess.
Me: Hello? The star (grumbling): Get her. Me: And this is...? The star (sighing, exasperated): It's Marlo, goddamit. That same phone call every day, ha.
And Sandy Duncan was a separate affair from my days working in casting, oy, don't ask (in general, you gotta watch those America's Sweetheart ones, they're always a nightmare. I learned early!)
Not comfortable saying who the "movie star" I worked for was, her name might fit right into this board as joke value anyway, but will give you a hint -- she's known as an actress but was up for an Oscar only once in a completely different category. :) There you go for Double Jeopardy.
You've GOT to tell us more about Duncan, r104. Her whole career is built on people feeling that she really is the sweet, peppy gal that she always played - please disillusion us!
Your Double Jeopardy question is tough. My first thought would be that it's some actress who wrote or co-wrote a Best Song nominee, but other than acting winner Streisand, I can't think of any others.
ha, another clue. My movie star told PEOPLE magazine she was 35 when she had just turned 50. And they printed it.
And she once wrote a diet book which I bring up because one of my most vivid memories is stumbling across her naked on her knees in front of the refrigerator, eating guacamole with her hands. And I'm not kidding, still giggle at the memory which I can't escape anyway.
She was nutty but I adored her. It'll all be in the book. :)
I misread the title of this thread as "Marlo Thomas says Penn State would have never happened if her father hadn't hired hookers to take a shit on a glass coffee table while he laid underneath it and jerked off."
Surprisingly, despite the media hounding her for her opinion on the scandal, Jo Anne Worley has stayed silent.
OP = catnip to misogynists.
Marlo's right. Had a woman been around, Jerry Sandusky would've left work exhausted from performing nit-noid tasks and trying not to get involved in petty squabbles. Basically, he'd be too tired to spell is own name, let alone rape a 10 year old boy.
Obviously, Danny Thomas scooped up some of the prostitute shit from his coffee table and made a nice little brain for his little daughter. She willfully ignores the fact that countless women have sat by while their husbands have raped/molested children. As a matter of fact, I was shocked to discover that MOST women hesitate to confront partners who are accused of sexually abusing children (my sister's still legally married to her child molesting husband, but fortunately he's in jail!). Some of the most prominent cases involving the rape of children--from the Elizabeth Smart / Jaycee Dugard kidnappers, to Warren Jeffs / Roman Polanski--have involved women who failed to go to the police (husbands in the cases of Smart, Dugard, and Jeffs...Angelica Huston, a friend, in the case of Roman Polanski).
Marlo ought to be careful saying what she'd do in a hypothetical situation. If she wants to play pretend, maybe she should think of what she'd do if she were able to act.
My guess on R104s Double Jeopardy question - Nia Vardolos
Kind of weird how men don't want to admit that they are more violent than women when there's more than enough evidence to prove it. I guess that's what the people in power get to do: deny the obvious and get angry and violent when people aren't buying their shit anymore.
Nice guess, R111 -- but I was a young man then and all her friends I've named are, let's be kind and say, "elderstars". So you'd have to go back quite a bit (but still very much alive and kicking... just saw her in a cool recent well-known indie film on Criterion Collection just the other day).
[quote]I guess that's what the people in power get to do: deny the obvious and get angry and violent when people aren't buying their shit anymore.
Pretty much sums up the Republican platform
^ Valerie Solanis has now weighed in, as well.
At R112, I mean.
No, but someone would have sucker punched Marlo at Penn State, I betcha.
The sad truth that no one will say is that it probably never would've happened if Sandusky's wife gave him all the sex he wanted. She probably rarely gave it up, no bj's, no anal, so he looked elsewhere.
Of course it can't be said for sure that it never would have happened, but I do think it would have been less likely to be covered up if there were a woman in the chain of command.
Mothers of the world must unite to protect the children.
(NOW PARKER GO DOWNSTAIRS AND GET ME A PUDDING POP BEFORE I KICK YOUR LITTLE ASS ALL THE WAY BACK TO MILITARY SCHOOL.)
R109 = Cuntnip to Women Indifferent to Male Victims of Assault Who Have to Make It All About Them Regardless Because The Hole Can Never Be Filled
[quote]The sad truth that no one will say is that it probably never would've happened if Sandusky's wife gave him all the sex he wanted. She probably rarely gave it up, no bj's, no anal, so he looked elsewhere.
The biographical info that is emerging from various articles published since the scandal suggests that Sandusky has never been interested in women. He was an only child who was idolized by his parents. He did not have girlfriends as a youth. One of Sandusky's former friends from his hometown in PA said that as a teenager Jerry was very shy and "stayed away from girls". Apparently Sandusky had to be pushed into dating the woman whom he did eventually marry. And in his memoirs only three females earn any mention at all: Sandusky's mother, his wife, and his adopted daughter.
r118 a sexually unadventurous partner does not lead a healthy guy, gay or straight, to rape 10 year olds. He was a pedophile. The wife was just a cover he was maintaining. If one of them was suffering from disappointment in a partner's sexual disinterest it would no doubt be Sandusky's wife not Sandusky.
WTF is up with all of these ignorant people on this site who think that a bisexual or gay man is somehow the same thing as a ped0?
If you really feel that way, go lick Anita Bryant's pussy, join the Westboro Baptist church, or better yet actually learn more about human sexuality.
This is DL, so I'm not surprised someone is trying to blame it on the wife, I'm only surprised it took this long.
It's unfortunate that it should even have to be explained that a frigid wife does not cause a man to feel the need to rape little boys (or girls, for that matter), and that the only person who caused Sandusky's actions is Sandusky himself.
Ok, not many have heard about the Syracuse case (Bernie Fine), but not only did the guy molest the kid, his wife knew about it and later bedded him herself.
R126, I thought of this thread as soon as I heard about that....she apparently witnessed some of the abuse occur and then she acknowledged it happened...only to turn a blind eye. What would Marlo say?
Bill Mahr said the same thing on his show recently.
Yeah, he was saying something similar on "The View" which sounded like utter disingenuous pandering to a female audience; even he didn't really look like he believed it.
Instant karma got him, though, no sooner did he get a little applause than dumbshit Hasselbeck said in her Minnie Mouse voice, "Funny you credit women since...". And then yelled at him for saying she should be traded into slavery a bit ago. (And, purists, I paraphrase so save the bitchbites).
What the hell would miss New York Ivory Tower LAP (Lebanese American Princess) dancer know about some place as "pedestrian" as Penn State? Regular kids go there. Sons and daughters of factory workers, retail workers, the middle class in general. People Marlo would not give the time of day to if she were off her meds.
Marlo, should we remind you of the hundreds of reported cases of Junior Cougar action around the country? What she means is they would have had more willing victims and the scandal would have been better concealed. Until someone gets preggers.
shut the fuck up and go back to defending abortion clinics. It may be your body, but that's MY child. Women commit the vast majority of child abuse and child murder in the country. Who doesn't remember Susan Smith falsely accusing every BLACK man in the south of taking her kids. The Minister's Wife who shot him in the back with a shotgun because he was a freak. Call a lawyer, don't murder your children's father. She did three months in jail and is seeking custody of the kids from their father's parents!
Marlo, your gender does not make you any better than mine does. A little PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY please.
" Women commit the vast majority of child abuse and child murder in the country"
You apparently don't consider sexual abuse of children (which is almost exclusively committed by men, "child abuse".
Is there any other statistic you would like to pull out of your ass? Typical man, making shit up.
Any male exclusive environment - Catholic baloney, Sports, Boy Scouts anyone? - are going to be high risk for this behavior. Marlo is spot on.
A woman was "around" Dottie Sandusky was married to this predator for decades and was not only around but defends him to this day.
This woman also came around to calling her son a mentally ill liar when the son said Sandusky had attempted or actually abused him.
So there was a woman around for a fair portion of the abuse Sandusky inflicted on children and she not only looked the other way, she defended him and continues to defend him even at the expense of her relationship with her son.
Bill Maher says it all the time.
I disagree with both of them. However, no one's calling Maher a bitch.
[] Ann B. Davis is pretty private. How did you find out she was calling for the death penalty? Just curious. I'm a big fan, so please tell more!
Well, what she claims may be true, but in reality these kind of business and social networks are quite paranoid and anyone who might be a potential threat to them is either kept at arm's lenght (= remaining an outsider) or is under surveillance 24/7.
Everybody who joins these kind of cult-like organisations or networks has to provide some real damning secret (and handing over proof) for company or other business like organisations or commit a criminal act in their presence in order to join (rape or kill someone) for cults in an initiation ceremony. The reason? If you attempt to betray them they will reveal your dirty secret and a) you will lose everything and b) nobody will believe you when you spill the truth about them (and when you get killed it will look like you are a total nutcase with suicidal tendencies).
Does anyone know how I can make a direct reply to a certain post? I'm not a member of the site, because something is wrong with the "join" form. So, how can I do it?
put the reply number in your post...like r138...and then say what you want....
The article is such bullshit. It so wasn't about the gender of the victim(s). What mattered was that Sandusky was too powerful to bring him down. The guy who caught him in the act would have been the one getting fired for some made up reason and not Sandusky if he had caused a real stink about this and made a move to destroy a 'good thing going' for a lot of people.