Yes, R2, but South Dakota has the palm trees and Art Deco hotels.
South Dakota, obviously.
Western ND has the big oil boom if you're looking for that kind of work. Truck drivers making $100,000 a year. We need engineers too.
I would live in Minot if there were a suitable job. But is there enough housing?
Housing is extremely hard to find and expensive, sorry, R6.
It's a toss up. North Dakota has the opera, the symphony, the ballet, and the feeling you can only get in those great metropolitan area. Also, it has such a diverse population, it's like being at the United Nations.
South Dakota, however, has the resorts, the wonderful weather, the beautiful old deco buildings, and that wonderfully hip music scene. And, of course, all those beautiful ethnic boys and the incredibly hip gay scene.
Love 'em both.
Years ago, I read a story in Time Magazine that North Dakota was considering dropping the word "North" from its name to spruce up it's image and not give people it was such a cold, inhospitable place.
Guess they decided to keep "North" afterall.
South Dakota has much more to see for touristy things. ND is too cold!
I can't tell if R8 is joking or not worldly enough to realize those descriptions about the Dakotas are ridiculous.
I grew up in Sioux Falls, I agree with r1.
R11, R8 is certainly joking.
SD is one of the most rabidly anti-choice states in the U.S., though MS is angling for #1 based on today's news.
South Dakota smells like fish.
South Dakota is a push bottom.
South Dakota has the Corn Palace, Mount Rushmore and Wall Drug.
R11 wins the title of Stupidest Poster Ever.
The funny thing is, Fargo (North Dakota) actually has an opera and a symphony, although much of that city's "cultural" (cough cough) influence comes from across the border in Moorhead, MN, which is a small town with a large state university (and a smaller private college).
I just googled, and there apparently now is a ballet, too, although I guess you don't have to be thin to participate. (See link)
I grew up in Fargo. It's become a real boomtown now, and it looks nothing like the town I remember from my youth. That town was kind of ugly and industrial. Today it's more like a bland suburb.
Most of North Dakota is cold and desolate, and it only gets worse the farther west you go.
South Dakota obviously has some tourism going for it, but that's about it. It's got a slightly higher population, something like 800,000 vs. 600,000 in ND.
North Dakota still has elderly socialists. South Dakota self-reports 95% Christian, and battles Louisiana every year for the title of state with the most Xtians. North Dakota by far. Plus Deadwood is the tackiest place north of Branson and West of the Wisconsin Dells.
But South Dakota has Little House on the Prairie!
Wow! R8/r17 is actually serious.
ND is the most treeless (least treed?) state. Nothing but flat, bald prairie in every direction. SD often crops up in stats (poverty, education) in a bad way due to the large indian population.
Whatever happened to that straight guy from Fargo that we all persecuted once upon a time? Anyone remember his name?
Although it has very little in the way of arts and culture, Sioux Falls, SD is not exactly a bad place to live. It's one of the fastest growing cities in the US, and it's always near the top on all of those "Best Cities for Business" and "Best Places to Live" lists. And even though it doesn't have much of a gay scene, Sioux Falls does have a few notable gay people, like Steve Hildebrand, who helped manage Obama's 2008 campaign. Of course, as soon as you leave Sioux Falls and set foot in the rest of the state, it's a different story.
R23 has a point. Isn't the real question: Sioux Falls vs Fargo? (or does Bismark also come into play?)
No the real question is Fargo v. Rapid City.
No datalounger would ever be caught dead in Sioux Falls, Sioux City, or anything else named Sue. Dataloungers are MASCULINE.
They both suck.
Nick Starcevic came from ND.
The badlands area of southwest North Dakota is actually quite scenic.
R30, it looks very bland and uninteresting to me. Cannot understand why people visit the Badlands. Perhaps, they are from boring locales or they swallow every tale given to them.
South Dakota is the warm Dakota
On the plus side, ND has probably the lowest crime and unemployment rate. Something about all those stalwart scandinavians and germans. It must be a great place to grow up, if a bit boring.
Fuck you, r31. It's not for you to decide why people appreciate a natural setting. I'm not from anywhere near there but it was quite different than what I had anticipated and I enjoyed the area. God forbid anyone say anything mildly pleasant about anything on here. You cunt.
Nice places to visit, but I would not want to live there.
P.S. NYC got Snow Today. That could be manageble.
Neither N.D. nor S.D.
My answer is North Korea
SD, the sioux falls area is pretty, clean, LOTS of historic homes at low prices...not to mention a redone downtown district with bars, restaurants, shopping. Interesting weather, wild swings in temps. A few miles out of town, beautiful dramatic open skies with no light pollution. Compared to most cities of 160,000 in more populous states, SF has a lot going for it.
Most of the Dons and Marges there don't seem to bat an eyelash at gays, either. Spent a fun evening chatting with straights with my gay date..NO prejudicial attitudes detected.
Cool little city, NOT for snobbish bicoastal queens however. Low crime, too.
tired of NOLA
South Dakota. Sioux Falls has the best Italian restaurant I have ever been to, I forgot the name, though. I had lunch at an old coffee shop at an exit off I-90 in the middle of the state. Hill City, near Mount Rushmore, feels Northern Exposure-y. If it weren't so remote, I'd consider retiring there. South Dakota is awesome.
The South side of the building gets more sun.
I think there's something charming about Fargo/Moorhead having a ballet company. Outside major metropolitan areas, if you want culture, you have to manufacture it yourself, even if it means relying on eighth graders. If you can have community theater, why not community ballet?
My high school had a fucking exchange program with another school in that area and the student council had to scratch and claw to find anyone willing to travel there.
ND's economy is booming, and it is one of the fastest growing states in population.
Isn't Sioux Falls the largest city in the two states? That's in South Dakota. But Fargo is the nicest city in both states.
The Black Hills in South Dakota is the nicest area to live in, however. They're really mountains rather than hills, and it's a very pretty part of the country. they've got a great natatorium in Hot Springs, and very pretty towns like Spearfish. My father grew up there, which has been totally taken over by the annual motorcycle rally in the last 20 years. We used to go back to the Black Hills every summer, and it was pretty then, but I've heard the overbuilding of the motorcycle rally and the overbuilt gambling industry in Deadwood has pretty much ruined the region.
I'm surprised R11 hasn't been screened for Aspberger's already.
Are you kidding me with this question?
If OP had offered "A poke in the eye with a sharp stick," I would have chosen that. Which one has Mount Rushmore and the Badlands?
I think North Dakota is where Kellan Lutz & Josh Duhamel come from, so there's that.
I sort of love R34. I get tired of the princesses who complain whenever anyone enjoys something that falls outside of the low-brow DL canon (e.g., superhero movies, 19 year old B-list TV actors).
Which of the two states set up a bank in the early 1900s to handle their governments assets? The rest of our states invest in Wall Street and have gotten screwed.
While R49 makes a good point about whiny New Yorkers, is he right about superhero movies? Comic books were always considered mediocre, despite a respectable foundation in age-old myth and fantasy epics (e.g. Gilgamesh); the new highbrow is the terrifying Lens Dunham in "Girls".
What are they?
What is the point of having two Dakotas?
I don't know, but the same question could be asked about the Virginias.
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