So I've gone back and am starting to watch the entire series.
A few questions-comments:
Did Hyacinth ever actually give a candlelight supper on camera during the show's run?
Are we really suppose to believe that Emmet isn't gay? What straight man goes and lives with his sister after his divorce? He also had a really bad case of gay voice too! He was a musician, who sang and played piano. Gurrrl please!
Hyacinth, while embarrassed by her family, never actually cut them off. She spoke to them on the phone regularly, and would even mention them to others. She just didn't want people to see them. That's pretty odd.
Richard was a pretty hot daddy. Why didn't Elizabeth end up with him? They obviously wanted each other, at least Elizabeth did.
What was up with the Vicar's wife's accent? Was she suppose to be Irish?
The vicar was the hottest piece of ass in the show. The actor, Jeremy Gittins, appeared nude in "Tales of the Unexpected". Great ass! He was in bed with another man.
Why wasn't Patricia Routledge made a Dame? It's pretty unbelievable, especially after her most infamous character favored the Royals. Give her the title!
I wished that they would have ended the series with the Buckets moving. As they're driving away down the street, the neighbors come out and cheer and applaud. Hyacinth then sticks how her arm and gives them the finger, revealing that she was aware of what they all actually thought of her all along.
The best scene was the one where the woman who Hyacinth was trying to direct into a parking spot, began to try driving her down!
It's amazing that they never brought back the series for at least a special after 1995.
In the March 2011 PBS pledge drive programming special Behind the Britcoms: from Script to Screen hosted by Moira Brooker and Philip Bretherton of As Time Goes By, the Keeping Up Appearances creators/writers/producers stated that they believed the series had many more years in it, that they had many more stories to tell, and that "it still had legs".
Bitches don''t know about my candlelight suppers!
Poor Emmet wasn''t gay -- he was wounded, and wwanted nothing more than to play his piano and be left in peace. His sister was sweet to let him stay, but then came Hyacinth...
[quote]What was up with the Vicar''s wife''s accent? Was she suppose to be Irish?\
I took her to be Scottish.
The Vicar''s wife was Scottish -- I loved her exasperation
[quote]Did Hyacinth ever actually give a candlelight supper on camera during the show''s run?\
I think it was funnier that we were left to imagine what an ordeal the guests must have endured at Hyacinth''s candlelight suppers.\
It was amazing that they managed to wring so much good comedy from such an utterly repetitious formula.
I always thought the funniest parts were when Tarquin would call. Richard would sit back and roll his eyes. What was Tarquin''s "roommates" name?
Tarquin WAS the roommate. Sheridan was Hyacinth and Richard''s son.
[quote]It was amazing that they managed to wring so much good comedy from such an utterly repetitious formula.\
Exactly! Every episode was exactly the same, yet pure comedy goid.
Thanks R7. Got them mixed up.
Rose: I''ve decided to write my memoirs. How do you spell virgin?%0D\
Onslow: Are you going back that far?
Yuk Yuk Yuk
No you may not have another order of salty prawn balls. This is not a Chinese takeway.%0D\
I am speaking to you from my white slimline telephone with last number redial.%0D\
You will love my Royal Doulton with the handpainted periwinkles.
Rose: He said he would love me til the end of time. I didn''t realize he meant closing time.
It''s just the same scenarios and lines over and over again, but even reading them in here makes me laugh.
It''s NOT Bucket....it''s Bouquet!
I love this show too. It''s one note, but always funny. British sitcoms are the best
[R15] I love watching British sitcoms!\
Of course, I have to make sure that my pussy is inside. The last time my pussy was out in the rain it was awful!
and R16 is unanimous in that.
Without the cast, the show would have been cancelled. It is not well-written, but somehow the actors make it comedy gold. It''s premise, however, is very smart. \
The opening was always a tad weird. Nothing happens for nearly 3 seconds, with the camera focused in on the bookshelf, then the music starts. The bug in the flower is a good touch, but you have to admit that whoever conjured up the plot for the opening, must have been high.
Which Rose was the original? I know one of them died, but I am not sure which Rose came first.
The one who died, R19.
"Which Rose was the original? I know one of them died, but I am not sure which Rose came first."%0D\
The skinnier Rose (Mary Millar) was the second (and in my opinion the better). She is the one that died. She had a nice stage career. She understudied Julie Andrews in Camelot and was the original Madame Giry in "Phantom of the Opera"
Was Hyacinth's maiden name ever mentioned on the show?
The original Rose was Shirley Stelfox, best known in the UK as town spinster Edna Birch on the soap [italic]Emmerdale.[/italic]
The damned vicar ain't dishy, 'k, peeps!
Patricia Routledge is an out leabian.
Pat is not a vagitarian, she does reside with another female, but they do not "cut the rug" in a canoopial cha cha.
Hyacith's maiden name was Porcine.
Oh sweet jesus fucking christ.
The scene that makes me laugh every time is when Hy and Richard get stuck face to face in the doorway of the wee kitchenette in their tiny apartment in the country.
Hy tops it with "I don't like this level of intimacy, Richard."
R.I.P. Onslow and our Rose.
I'm watching right now; the ep I'm watching has her picking up vacation brochures and making Richard drive by a neighbor so she can throw the brochures out the moving car, run over and pick them up and be able to flaunt them in this woman's face. Her character is so pathologically narcissistic.
I always wonder how proper Hyacinth came from a family with such low rent sisters. She doesn't seem like she 'pulled herself up' from her beginnings -- she doesn't seem like she went to charm school or something to improve herself. And her unseen sister Rose seems to have moved up to the good life. Maybe by marriage?
I noticed that many British sitcoms do seem to have one premise and run it into the ground. KUA has one theme and this show ran how many years? Another example: I watched Little Britain and this one on BBC America called Katie Brand. They each had about 7-8 skits and just changed the words from week to week.
It was Violet who achieved upper class life through marriage.
OP wrote "the Keeping Up Appearances creators/writers/producers stated that they believed the series had many more years in it, that they had many more stories to tell, and that "it still had legs".
Pat Routledge knew the series had run its course, commenting that several episodes had been recycled. She also refused to a reunion show.
The "had legs" crowd just wanted continued employment.
Pat is an old dykey bitch.
r29, Hyacinth pronounced the vacation fliers as BRA-shurs.
r32, she's never said a bad word about you.
[quote]I noticed that many British sitcoms do seem to have one premise and run it into the ground
They do that with everything and everyone.
Jeremy Gittins, the Vicar, was "the sexy nerd" personified. But he has NOT aged well.
R33, that's how the Brits pronounce it.
R30, Violet didn't and that was part of the point of her character in contrast to Hyacinth. Violet had a husband with money, a house with a sauna and room for a pony, but she would never be upper class or even upper middle. Her husband was a "turf accountant" (a bookie essentially). Hyacinth had class aspirations and affectations not only those of wealth. What mattered was what others thought of her not only what she thought of herself. The former was achieved by the signifiers and accoutrements of class. The latter could conceivably be achieved through money alone.
Were there many gay actors in those British sitcoms?
I've started watching the repeats of this recently, and become utterly obsessed. I've developed a pet theory: Richard and Elizabeth were having an affair. I find this theory vasly increases my enjoyment of the show. (And Emmet was blazingly gay.)
The only character that rubbed was the vicar's wife - she was so illogically jealous of every woman the vicar came into contact with.
We did see some of her Exclusive Outtdoors-Indoors Luxury Barbecue with Finger Buffet
I love the subtle humor of this show. One of my favorite episodes was when the whole family showed up to Daisy and Onslow's grandchild's baptism and it turned out their daughter was in a threesome.
The Christmas Special "Sea Fever" was fantastic.
Hyacinth finally succeeds in getting Richard to book a cruise on the Queen Elizabeth. Much of the episode was filmed on board QE2.
Rose; "It's a very posh affair. I'm going to wear a dress down to the ground!" Onslow; "Every dress you wear,ends up down to the ground."
Certain episodes have some very studly, handsome men hovering around in the background or with speaking parts.
The one that always catches my attention is the partner of the man whose mother is trying to marry "Daddy." Hy goes looking for him and finds the two of them unloading a lorry full of hot merchandise. When Hy approaches, they shut the door and lean against the back of the truck. The small one immediately shows the most prominent package he is handling is in his pants. Very upfront and very large.
One of the policemen in a couple of shows is a very good looking blond blue eyed guy. He looks even hotter in his uniform.
Richard has to confront a very big ruffian on the golf course. The guy isn't that good looking, but his package draws your eyes away from his face.
As Hy and Richard are hanging around a bank trying to meet a VIP and invite him to a candlelight supper, there is a very big, very handsome man standing in back of them in line. Very impressive looking.
R44 = our Rose
Emmett isn't the one who's gay. He sounds like that because of the boarding school posh background which his character's family had. If you were ever paying attention, you'd have worked out that it's mummy's boy Sheridan who's gay! I mean, what straight man would honestly be sharing an apartment at art school with a bloke called Tarquin!
Finally, I wish that they could have done a one off special, perhaps coinciding with the Royal Wedding or the Olympics, something with Sheridan working for a company that supplies the Royal Family, Hyacinth finds out and comes down to London and he trying to hide the truth about his life from her. Now that would have been good.
So Sheridan is gay right?
As mentioned by OP the actor who plays the vicar got naked in an episode of Tales of The Unexpected.
Naked vicar here...
Hmmm, was hoping Mr. Gittens would be furrier. Rockin' bod, though.
Don't forget the pink tent R46
R44 ... I love dorks and nerds, so the son who was fencing stolen goods was very cute to me. I know the policeman to whom you refer, who was quite dishy. The vicar did little for me - too scrawny. The scene where he and Emmett tap dance as "schoolgirls" was one of the gayest things I've ever seen, including porn!
One of the hotter minor characters was the guy with the stache who read the electric meter - WOOF!
I love the episode where the Vicar is exercising on a stationary bike. Short shorts which show his legs and thighs. I watch it over and over, his legs pumping away, imagining it's me he's getting so flushed and sweaty about
He's aged, yes, but he doesn't look [italic]that[/italic] bad.
Onslow had the best comic delivery. I agree about Richard and Elizabeth having a thing for each other.
Emmett and the vicar often spent late nights "choreographing" over the piano at the church hall.
I believe that the one episode with a dinner in the dining room, there is a floor plan of the home online somewhere, did not feature the Royal Doulton with the hand painted periwinkles but the double glazed Avignon. Hyacinthe rarely spoke of the double glazed Avignon even though it was her more formal pattern.
English porcelain is very good.
Hyacinthe never went on about the silver, even though it featured in the open and close, because English sterling is regulated into dull similarity.
And she would have never carried on about Irish linen or crystal.
Watched a marathon all day!
R56 I must be a true fan of Mrs Bouquet, because I totally understand your point.
With the exception of Geoffrey Hughes (Onslow), the male actors on the show are gay in real life: Clive Swift (Richard), David Griffin (Emmett), Jeremy Gittens (Michael, the dishy Vicar). The show's writer Roy Clarke is gay and most of the actors were personal friends/acquaintances of his.
On one of their Christmas episodes, we saw Richard and Elizabeth share a cozy kiss which was broken up by a clueless Hyacinth; they pulled away from each other quite uncomfortable with having enjoyed it.
R60 Even the dishy vicar?
Well, now how about something you'll really enjoy – 30 minutes of Keeping Up Appearances outtakes.
Re: "Unexpected" clip - now THOSE are Average White Guys. Eve Peter Davison's undies are beige, matching his "Doctor Who" costume.
Enjoyed the US version of KUA, starring Jill Zarin.
No love for "At Home With The Braethwaites"? Love Amanda Redman.
Big thanks to R48 for that clip! So cute with the mustache...
[quote]I noticed that many British sitcoms do seem to have one premise and run it into the ground.
Are you having a laugh?
[quote]With the exception of Geoffrey Hughes (Onslow), the male actors on the show are gay in real life: Clive Swift (Richard), David Griffin (Emmett), Jeremy Gittens (Michael, the dishy Vicar).
Uh, both David Griffin and Jeremy Gittens are straight. They also happen to be married to women and, in David Giffin's case, have children.
Well, I heard that the dog that lives in Onslow's car out front is gay .. so there!
First I've heard of Clive Swift being gay - he was married to Margaret Drabble and he's got three children. Did he come out in later life?
R60 Clive Swift was married to the author Margaret Drabble and they have three children.
Clive is meant to be notoriously prickly. This is a link to an interview he did with a Doctor Who magazine for an episode he was in a few years ago. Those DW fans are pretty serious and they hate him. Love his answer to "Do people shout Richard at you in the street?"
He's a bitter old man who will never be Sir Clive Swift.
I always enjoyed watching the Vicar. Enjoyed the show where they volunteered at the local Thrift Shop with Councillor Nugent in charge and Rose decided to donate some clothing which turned out be be sexy panties. Also where they volunteer to drive Mrs. Fortescue only to pick up Rose and Daisy. Rose starts on her love life with Mrs. Fortescue.
The show was a one-joke thing which got real old real soon.
Routledge is an aggressive lesbian who disgraced herself on a flight in Australia, fighting loudly with her girlfriend.
[quote] hosted by Moira Brooker and Philip Bretherton
Love these two!
I guess if you are married and have children, you aren't gay.
Ok, since someone mention Philip Bretherton, what is his story? I assume he is gay. He has one of those IMDB pages that is stripped of all personal information. His website tells very little about his personal life.
R74 Please, get real.
R74, whatever you're taking, it's not working. Please finish the whole bottle at once and slip into a tub.
There was one scene where some guys were moving furniture and one had a pronounced bulge in his pants. It was the only time anything remotely erotic ever appeared. Daisy rubbing herself and Rose acting star-struck don't count!
The dishy vicar never betrayed any evidence of manhood.
r79 - are you saying being gay does not fit into manhood?
r37, was surprised to hear a Brit say u-RY-nal for urinal.
Britain is quite class-structured, so I'm surprised that nouveau-riche Violet and Bruce were really considered all that "upper class" by the set Hyacinth craved acceptance from?
R82 they weren't. It was part of the joke that Hyacinth was impressed by their lifestyle but no-one else was.
Still no word on why anyone thinks Clive Swift is gay?
Violet's husband was a turf accountant which is a bookie. Did Hyacinth know what that was? Because it seems that someone who is trying to be upper class wouldn't brag about knowing a bookie. Especially when she makes a fuss about not going into pubs in the Mrs. Fortescue episode.
"Routledge is an aggressive lesbian who disgraced herself on a flight in Australia, fighting loudly with her girlfriend."
Any link with more information about this? Sounds delicious!
R71 Here is Philip with a girlfriend from 2001 apparently..
R85 / R89 she knew what a turf accountant was - that was the joke. She couldn't bring herself to say bookie, but would say turf accountant because it sounded much more genteel, like chartered accountant if you said it fast enough. The "common" things she worried about, like having a bookie in the family, were exactly the sort of thing that nobody would've cared about, so the very fact of trying to cover up her humble beginnings set her apart from the social strata she wanted to be in. And that she used the word "common" - middle classes would be taught from an early age that it was poor manners to comment on someone else's class (or lack of it).
The series is still on PBS Channel 13 in New York, every Saturday evening at 8:00pm. Usually followed by "As Time Goes By" with Judi Dench. ... I never get tired of the re-runs. And I would give my left nut to get it on with the vicar. (Jeremy Gittens) where is this totally nude photo of him, to be found?
Did anyone ever see the episode where she corrected someone on how to pronounce Bucket. For those who don't know it's Boo-kay.
Bookmaking wasn't legal in 1994 so I doubt Hyacinth would brag about someone doing something illegal.
That episode was good but my fave was the episode where Onslow's dog barks at Hyacinth and she falls into the bushes.
What episode didn't she know what a curb crawler was?
Hyacinth falling into the bushes wore thin after the second episode. It's no wonder she didn't want to continue the series.
R97 nonsense - up until 1960 bookies were only on race courses, so he could have been one of those, but after 1960 off-course bookies were legalised. Under what circumstances do you think it would be illegal to be a bookie?
Depending on jurisdiction, bookmaking may be legal or illegal, and is often regulated.
In the United Kingdom, since the inception of the National Lottery, bookmaking is legal and even has a small contributor to the British economy, with a recent explosion of interest with regard to the international gaming sector industry.
However, gambling debts were unenforceable under English law until the Gambling Act 2005
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Land that I love
Stand beside her
And guide her
Through the night with a light from above
From the mountains, to the prairies
To the oceans, white with foam
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R102 bookmaking has always been legal in the UK, the difference was they used to only be on racecourses and now they have shops on the street too - why would you even think bookmaking has only been legal since the lottery was introduced?
What was the name of the last episode and what was it about?
Do these episodes have official names? I believe the last episode had to do with a party Hyacinth threw at her Kuntry Kondo, ending with Emmett through the roof (literally!) with a jagged piece of wood in his jugular.
The final episode in Season 5 was on November 5, 1995, "The Hostess."
An excited Hyacinth has put an advert in the local newspaper to teach people social etiquette, but the clientele proves far different from what she expected. It turns out they wanted a strip tease dancer. Before leaving, she has to send Richard to get Daddy out.
There was a "Christmas Special" on December 25, 1995.
Remember when Emmett came out of the closet and Hyacinth said, "Don't give me the AIDS."
I like the one where Richard had athlete's foot and Onslow was into that and it made Hyacinth jealous. So she had to get into feet to keep Richard or risk losing the Mercedes and room for a pony.
Is Sheridan gay? Emmett is very hot. Episode he first showed up was of him in a towel.
Also the milkman who looks like lead singer for Journey is really hot. Also the Vicar
R110 Sheridan is gay, he tells Hyacinth him and his (boy)friend don't like girls.
My favorite show. Hyacinth is a riot. Pat played her to perfection and knew when to stop doing it. It's old fashioned and "nice", but I like it.
I think this was the first show or movie where I remember hearing the (apparently very British) usage of "our" and "your" with someone's first name. ("Our Hyacinth," "your Rose," etc.) Is that commonly used throughout the UK? Is it considered lower-class or middle-class usage??
r114 Lower class, to be sure.
Did Hyacinth and the sisters live in that Council Estates flat before Daisy married Onslow? And how did she claw herself out of poverty to connect with Richard?
I get the impression Richard come from relatively modest origins himself, and worked his way up through the civil service.
Our Clive is reported to have gotten snippy when he did a Christmas episode of Doctor Who...
I've been watching "Hetty Wainthrop Investigates" on You Tube. In one, she meets an old friend from her vaudeville days and they end an episode with PR doing a song and dance in drag.
In the first episode Hyacinth makes many references to horses and attire so she clearly knows what a turf accountant is.
Emmett is not gay. Whenever Rose gets around him he gets all hot and bothered for her, especially when she sits on his lap as they ride in the car.
Sheridan is gay, even his father says to Hyacinth that they have to have a "talk" about him.
Hyacinth is not impressed with Violet's wealth. You've missed the point of the entire series. Hyacinth KNOWS what she is but as she points out, "If people think otherwise, it would be rude of me to correct them."
This is why she'll stand by a Rolls or steal, I mean test drive one, and she lets people think it's hers.
The only lesbian in the series was Councilmen Nugget or whatever that dyke's name was.
I believe your referring to the esteemed Mrs. Councillor Nugent R120
The only person not to be corrected when referring to Hyacinth as "Mrs Bucket"
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I thought there were two dining episodes, The outside inside party and the party, without the greenery, where she used, not the Royal Doulton with the hand painted periwinkles, but the double glazed Avignon.
What about the Waterside Picnic with Riparian Entertainments?
What about the BBQ on Violet's patio where Hyacinth hosted an impromptu hootenanny to drown out the row Violet and Bruce were having? One of the funniest episodes ever, especially the ending where Hyacinth accidentally flings a bucket of manure on her dessert table.