Reading the John Leguizamo thread I saw how he has always claimed to be half Puerto Rican. However, his father said this month it isn't true, that he is completely Colombian, and that he has been trying for years to get his son to quit lying about his heritage. John's Wikipedia entry quickly changed after the publicity and it says he won't have his Puerto Rican Day Parade Ambassadorship revoked (which he got because he has always prided himself for being such a loyal son of the island), but his imdb bio is still the same. Apparently he's made up all kinds of versions of his parentage to get the P.R. in and the Colombian out.
I also read how Terrence Howard claims to be an engineer, although he never finished college.
It seems that, apart from the perhaps understandable PR lies of covering up scandals or lying about their ages or plastic surgery, many celebrities simply make things up, as if no one will ever catch them. Even Dan Savage has cut five years off his age multiple times.
What are your favorite celebrity claims that turned out to be fake, phony, and outright lies?
>>>I also read how Terrence Howard claims to be an engineer%0D\
Hollywood is different than everywhere else. For instance, if an actor ever took a biology course, they are automatically classified as having been pre-med students who where going to become Doctors but decided to become actors.It doesn''t matter if they ever passed that biology class or even finished the course. I''m sure Terrence Howard took a science class so that must make him an engineer
Do you understand now?
Sandra Bullock used to lie about her age - she got called out on it in (of all places) the letters section of People magazine. Someone claimed they went to high school with her, and that she was several years older than she claimed to be. She was born in 1964 but had been giving her birth year as ''67 or ''68, I think.%0D\
Robert Conrad shaved years off his age, this was revealed by court documents when he was arrested%0D\
Michael Jackson claimed that he "seriously dated" Brooke Shields in his autobiography but she says that they were just friends, and that she gave him permission to lie and say that she was his girlfriend %0D\
Sharon Stone claimed to be a member of MENSA. She isn''t.%0D\
Ashley Judd claimed she graduated Phi Beta Kappa from the University of Kentucky but she wasn''t Phi Beta Kappa and never graduated%0D\
Good lord, are you just waking up to this? Most actors are insipid. Even the ones with degrees, they''re still most often pretty insipid.
There are constant claims in print that Schwarzennegger is 6''2" when he is not even six feet tall.
Catherine Zeta Jones was allegedly discovered to be 10 years older than she claims during a routine security check when she and husband Michael Douglas visted the White House.%0D
Robin Givens claimed she dropped out of Harvard Med School. She was actually just taking pre-med classes at the Harvard Extension School.
"Most actors are insipid."%0D\
No more than the average American.
Shanie Twain acted like she was half American Indian, only it turns out her STEPfather was, not her biological father.%0D\
Actually, many actors are very articulate and well-spoken.%0D\
And a good number are intelligent.
Merle Oberon said she was from Tasmania, because that was the farthest place in the Earth and no-one knew anything about the place. She was actually from India and was deeply ashamed of her heritage. Her stepson Michael Korda fictionalized her life in "Queenie".
"What are your favorite celebrity claims that turned out to be fake, phony, and outright lies?"%0D\
The time Vin Diesel said he''s straight, but only dates women in Europe.
Johnny T. Claims to be straight. They all lie.
Nicole Kidman always telling Oprah how she used to watch the Oprah Show even when she was a little girl in Australia. Bitch was 19 when the show statred.
Britney Spears lying about her virginity for years.\
Whitney Houston lying about her crack addiction.\
Brangelina lying about when they actually hooked up.\
Diana Ross denying Berry Gordy was her daughter''s father.
Mary Wilson has spent 40+ years lying her ass off about Diana Ross. She''d have you believe Ross was solely responsible for what happened to Flo Ballard. In fact, Wilson was equally responsible, she never made any effort to keep Ballard in the Supremes (and was actually willingly and secretively training replacements). Wilson also would have you believe tht when Ballard was down and out nobody would help her. "Nobody" was Wilson who did NOTHING. Ross did reach out, did try to get Motown to give a better settlement and offered cash to save Ballard''s house from foreclosure (Ballard''s horrible husband tried to intercept the money and Ross was too smart for that).
BTW, Merle Oberon always introduced her Asian mother as her maid. And the mother played along.
Assley Judd takes the cake on this one. Some whoppers that girl has told.
There''s nothing wrong with adding a little embellishment once in awhile. It makes a person so much more interesting.
Reese Witherspoon lying about being the highest paid actress in Hollywood - what a phony and dumb bitch!%0D\
Reese Witherspoon has surpassed Julia Roberts to become the highest paid actress of all time. She will earn a whopping $29 million for her upcoming horror movie %E2%80%9CFamily Trouble%E2%80%9D %E2%80%93 beating the $24 million Roberts was reportedly paid for %E2%80%9CMona Lisa Smile%E2%80%9D.
To me the worst is when they play on the "victim prevailing against all odds" myth. It''s about how terribly poor they were, how awful their parent(s) treated them and usually some kind of rape or molestation thrown in. Tyler Perry and Oprah do that. Relatives of Oprah tell a different story.
Ashley Judd did graduate from the University of Kentucky and earned a MPA from the Kennedy school of government.
R20, stop and count to 10 before you post something so stupid and insensitive.%0D\
The relatives deny that anything that horrible could happen in their family - gee I wonder why?%0D\
People like you are the reason so many walk around afraid to tell the truth about what happened to them. They''re afriad no one will believe them and it will be turned around on them that they are crazy or lying.%0D\
Don''t be such an asshole.
R22, your reflexive name-calling shows that you are ruled by emotion - a perfect tool for these manipulative celebs.
R21,yes, Ashley RECENTLY graduated from U of Kentucky. However, she claimed that she was a graduate during the 1990s, and she was not.
I don''t recall Ashley claiming she graduated in the 90''s, I do remember her enthusiasm and talking about that she had attended UK.%0D\
I''m not too concerned with the lying about your age, or those who deny drug use. Those are common and to be expected. But there are others who create a whole narrative, and fictinalize their lives that are pretty revealing in their way.
r24 can you at least provide a source for all of your allegations against Ashley? \
Apparently, Ashley did fulfill her requirements for graduation, but she thought she was short one class.
Whether you like Tyler Perry or Oprah it is very likely that they both were abused.
r25 neither do I, that''s why I''m asking r24 to cite some sources.
R23 is a douchebag.%0D\
Sorry, I can''t help my reflexive name-calling.%0D\
I blame Hollywood. I''m under it''s spell and I can''t break free.
If Tyler Perry WASN''T abused, then he''d better come up with a reason why he foisted Madea on an unsuspecting public.%0D\
He''d have some ''splainin'' to do.
[quote] if an actor ever took a biology course, they are automatically classified as having been pre-med students who where going to become Doctors \
The same is true of young people who die in car accidents, or otherwise tragically. Every young female who dies tragically was "attending Local Community College taking medical courses so she could become a pediatrician." \
It''s amazing -- when I was growing up, we didn''t have any of these junior college medical school programs. \
And if the young woman was not in school, her family reports she was "planning to attend/return to Local Community College after taking some time off from school. She had decided to become a pediatrician, because she liked to help people, especially sick children."\
Then you see a photo of a smirking, pierced and tattooed young womanwith the neck of a beer bottle visible in her hands. \
"She was an angel," said her mother. "God needed more angels, so he called her home to him."
When Keanu Reeves was young he claimed he was your average middle class white boy. I guess it''s average for your Mom to be friends with Lou Reed, Alice Cooper, Dolly Parton and David Bowie. I guess it''s average for your dad to work for a Mexican drug cartel? One of his tachers was Mrs. Cronenberg, is she weird like her husband?
Kind of like retired pornstars who became doctors/ lawyers/ astrophysicists.
[quote] Apparently, Ashley did fulfill her requirements for graduation, but she thought she was short one class.\
You are confusing this celeb with Christine O''Donnell, who is not a witch.
Keanu Reeves claims to be a "Canadian" actor, though he also claims his mother was English, his father was American, he was born in Lebanon, he lived in Australia and NYC. He seems to have spent his high school years in Toronto. \
No mention of how and when he became a Canadian citizen. I guess going to HS in Tranna automatically makes one a citizen?
Here is what wikipedia says about Judd\
[quote]In a May 2007 appearance on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, Judd explained she had completed her degree requirements in 1990 with 27 more hours taken than the required 120 hours, but had mistakenly thought she was one class short. She only needed to "sign a piece of paper" in order to graduate. DeGeneres then surprised Judd by presenting her with her diploma, which Ellen had acquired from the university. Judd subsequently earned a Master''s degree in Public Administration from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 2010.
Prostitutes never have clients who are 711 employees, sanitation workers or unemployed losers. Their clients are all "doctors, lawyers, politicians and judges." \
"Yid be supproised who aw clients aw. Dare all doctiz, lawyiz, judjiz an politicians," their silhouetted profiles claim on tv shows.
>BTW, Merle Oberon always introduced her Asian mother as her maid. And the mother played along.\
Do you mean her mother, or her grandmother?
Evelyn Mulwray, the original Bristol Palin
Boris Karloff invented a Russian identity for himself, but he was mixed race British and Indian. He was related to Anna, from Anna and the King of Siam. Anna also passed herself off as 100% British, but was mixed race as well. \
Not to mention tons of Jewish actors during Hollywood''s Golden Years who took false names and identities to pass as non-Jews. \
The deceptions if today''s Hollywood kind of pale in comparison.
I knew someone who for years, thought she didn''t have enough credits to have her degree, she was working as a waitress. Someone sat her down and counted all her credits, she had her degree.
How about the issue of... sexuality? Still seems Hollywood lies about that constantly. Like they''re really all raging heteros?
Nicole Kidman did not have her first baby and was never pregnant. She faked it and used her sister Antonia as a surrogate. I know this for a fact (its well known in Sydney). For her second baby (from another surrogate I think not sure if she used Antonia again) she didnt bother with the facade though.
Ashley Judd is too pretentious for words, even if she really does have her precious University of Kentucky degree and MPA from Harvard.
who would want to be Puerto Rican?
I don''t think anyone has topped Merle Oberon, who seems to have fictionalized everything about her pre-Hollywood life except her gender. %0D\
She claimed to be from Tasmania, and you know who really was from Tasmania? Errol Flynn, who was her Hollywood contemporary, and who had mutual friends with her such as David Niven. I wonder if she maintained the fiction in her private life, or if people like Flynn caught her out.
I have a relative who applied for his degree after taking the number of credits he needed. He got turned down because he didn''t take two years of language. He tried to blame this on his college advisor not telling him about the requirement, but all you have to do in NYS is look at your college catalogue. It tells you what your degree requirements are and clearly states that 2 years of foreign language are required and count as humanities courses. \
You''ve got to have 2 years foreign language to get a bachelor''s degree from a NYS college.
r10, Errol Flynn, who was from Tasmania, thought the whole business with Merle Oberon was hilarious.\
r43, I live in Sydney and I did not know that.
Madonna, when she first became famous, claiming to have been raised poor in the ''hood and hanging out with the Black and Latino kids when she actually came from an upper middle class family in the very white suburbs and her father was an engineer.\
Loretta Young denying that Clark Gable was the father of her daughter, when her daughter was a dead ringer for Gable.
Out of curiosity, why would John Leguizamo try to say he is part Puerto Rican instead of Columbian? Does it really matter and does being Puerto Rican have higher status among Latinos?\
Puerto Ricans see themselves above Domninicans (snicker). I''m not sure how they feel about Columbians.
Madonna claiming she arrived in NYC with $35 dollars in her pocket and was practically homeless for several years. Her father and her older brother helped her out financially. Her father even paid her rent from time to time.
[Puerto Ricans see themselves above Domninicans (snicker). I''m not sure how they feel about Columbians.]\
Is there really a difference?
R15 you BITCH, I remember telling Berry Gordy that I wanted YOU to be Ross'' replacement when he was thinking of putting Syreeta Wright there instead. It''s because of ME that you have any semblence of a career yet you say such CALUMNIOUS statements about me! You woulda still been washing Patti''s granny panties if it weren''t for me you ungreatful HUSSY!
Madame Wilson to you, bitch!
he was just trying to please his overbearing mother who was insatiable in her demands on who he should be and how much he should succeed. evil bitch
Check out Anna --
Anna Leonowens was born Anna Harriette Edwards in Ahmadnagar, India on 26 November 1831. She was the second daughter of Sergeant Thomas Edwards of the Sappers and Miners, a former London cabinetmaker, and his Anglo-Indian wife, Mary Anne Glasscott, daughter of a lieutenant in the Bombay Army. For most of her adult life, Leonowens was estranged from her family and took pains to disguise her modest origins by writing that she had been born a Crawford in Caernarfon and giving her father's rank as captain. By doing so, she protected not only herself but her children, who would have greater opportunities if their mixed-race heritage remained unknown. Investigations uncovered no record of her birth at Caernarfon, news which came as a shock to the town that had long claimed her as one of its most famous natives.
Leonowens' father died before she was born, and her mother married an Irish soldier, Corporal Patrick Donohoe of the Engineers, who was later awarded the Victoria Cross for bravery in Bombay during the Indian Mutiny. In 1845, her 15-year-old sister, Eliza Julia Edwards, married Edward John Pratt, a 38-year-old British civil servant who had served in the Indian Navy. One of their grandsons was the actor William Henry Pratt, better known as Boris Karloff. Because Edward John Pratt was also an Anglo-Indian, Leonowens never approved of her sister's marriage, and her disconnect from the family was so complete that decades later, when a Pratt relative contacted her, she replied threatening suicide if he persisted.
Leonowens' relationship with her stepfather Donohoe was not a happy one, and she later accused him of putting pressure on her, like her sister (with whom she also fell out), to marry a much older man. In 1847 the family went to Aden, to where Donohoe had been seconded as assistant supervisor of public works. Here Leonowens was taught by the resident chaplain and orientalist, the Revd. George Percy Badger, and his wife Maria, a missionary schoolmistress. The Badgers recognised the girl's aptitude for languages and in 1849 they took her with them on a tour through Egypt and Palestine.
How can this thread be this far along without a mention of Rosie O''Donnell? Her entire life is a lie. Her mother had liver, not breast, cancer. Her childhood wasn''t as desperate as she makes it out to be. I''m too tired to enumerate her whoppers....
Hope she doesn''t get cancer....
Puerto Ricans are US citizens, perhaps that''s why Leguizamo added that to the mix.
r54, if you''ve been to either Island you would not even ask that question.%0D\
Excuse me, I have to go to the well to get water for my morning bath, in Santo Domingo.
r50, I''ll quote this from the John Leguizamo thread\
[quote]you must not have known that Latinos take that shit seriously, ESPECIALLY Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. They might be all the same to you but not to each other.
they dont seem all the different up here in nyc
Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic are TWO DIFFERENT countries! \
If someone told you that the Swedes didn''t like Germans, you wouldn''t say "But they''re both practically the same."\
Even if someone told you that the Sudanese and the Nigerians despised each other...you wouldn''t say they''re both the same.\
So why would you lump all Latin/Hispanic nations together?
My favorite is Merle Oberon. Thinking about her story always breaks my heart. It is understandable why she did what she did... My second favorite is Loretta Young and Judy Lewis. I usually tell these stories to people and they become dumbfounded (especially @ Young''s).
r58, I''ve viewed her background with some suspicion, she seems to have come from a stable, middle class family with lots of friends and support, but the ''story'' comes across as a life of poverty and sexual abuse. \
r5, as Catherine Zeta Jones is British, her birth certificate is available for anyone to view or request. She can''t lie about her age unless there is a mistake on her original birth certificate (which she can capitalise on). The comic Rob Brydon (age 46) attended the same school as Jones and said he was a few years older than her.
R65 Zeta-Jones was also a child actress so there''s documentation of her being a kid in the ''70s and a teen in the ''80s.
Well, according to her brother''s book, Madonna owns this thread.
Hilary Swank and Jewel pretending they were once homeless
Tom Cruise for sure. I''m not just talking about his sexuality either. His whole public persona is a lie. He has a fake marriage and a fake family. Even his fake adopted children that he only carts out for photo ops.\
It''s to the point where I think Tom even believes his own lies.
r58 = the Donald
Hilary Swank lived in a trailer. And Jewel lived out of her car.
Didn''t Swank say on stage @ the oscars that she and her mother lived in their car when she came to hollywood?
Jewel was homeless for a good year or so.
r71, and they never let us forget it either...
R72- yup, she sure did.
Hillary Swank and her Mom spent a few weeks living in their car somewhere in South Pasadena while her Mom looked for a job and found an apartment. I lived there at the time, so always wondered where they parked to escape the diligent parking police and their 5AM rounds.
What''s the story of Judy Lewis? TIA.
[quote]When Keanu Reeves was young he claimed he was your average middle class white boy.\
What I hated about that quote was it felt like he was denying his Asian heritage. I''ve always thought of Keanu as multiracial; it''s a big part of my attraction to him. (If he was just a "middle class white boy" he''d be Noah Wiley.)\
The ''Merle Oberon''s mother'' story is sad. It reminds me of Imitation of Life.
[quote]What''s the story of Judy Lewis?\
Judy Lewis is the biological daughter of actress Loretta Young and actor Clark Gable, who had an affair while working on the film Call of the Wild. Young concealed her pregnancy to protect her own and Gable''s film careers. After leaving Judy in an orphanage for some 18 months, she returned to "adopt" her. When Judy was four years old her mother married businessman Tom Lewis and she went by the last name of Lewis. However Tom never adopted Judy, because he never knew that she was his wife''s biological daughter, a fact he would have found out if he adopted her.
R77 Judy Lewis was the illegitimate daughter of Clark Gable and Loretta Young. During her pregnancy Young went to Europe (?), had the baby there and left her in an orphanage for a year, then went back and "adopted" her. Lewis spent most of her life in the dark about this. Loretta kept up the charade until her death bed in 2000 when she finally told Lewis (and the world) the truth.
[quote]who would want to be Puerto Rican?%0D\
Someone from Ecuador.%0D\
OP here. \
My understanding is that Leguizamo (who I always have enjoyed as a performer) simply did not want people to associate him with Colombia - he thinks it has bad connotations. One story said he also had a difficult relationship with his father, but given that he''s Colombian on both sides it seems like an off swipe to change his father''s background as a response to that.\
Who knows? Part of the point is that he kept at it and embellished it over the years, even after the family made their concerns known.
R82, that sounds like a bitchy dig at one''s father. \
"Here is my father. He''ll tell you he''s Columbian, but he''s really Puerto Rican. You believe me because I am famous and he is not."\
Kind of like my insistence that Ciaran is a lesbian Vermonter.
As is oft the case on DL, I think many of you are confusing urban myth with reality. Catherine Zeta-Jones is one of the better examples: there have been constant references to her supposedly lying about her age during the entire 10 years or so I've been on DL, never mind the actual reality -- as noted by R65 and R66 -- that she was not only a child star and thus in the public eye from the age of 15, but also that British birth certificates are a matter of public record. Some other comments:
[quote]Sandra Bullock used to lie about her age - she got called out on it in (of all places) the letters section of People magazine. Someone claimed they went to high school with her, and that she was several years older than she claimed to be. She was born in 1964 but had been giving her birth year as '67 or '68, I think.
Yep. A former co-worker, who went to high school with her, called her out on this long before "People" did, and even brought her yearbook in one day to show that Sandy graduated in the class of 1982, thus putting her birth date around 1964.
[quote]Prostitutes never have clients who are 711 employees, sanitation workers or unemployed losers. Their clients are all "doctors, lawyers, politicians and judges."
Um, prostitutes cost money. 7-Eleven employees and people on the dole do not have the means to hire them. So yes, most of their clients -- and certainly most of their "regulars" -- are relatively well-off. That said, what the fuck does that have to do with celebrities?
[quote]Nicole Kidman did not have her first baby and was never pregnant. She faked it and used her sister Antonia as a surrogate. I know this for a fact (its well known in Sydney).
Unless you witnessed Antonia giving birth, you most certainly do NOT know this "for a fact." Something that's "well-known in Sydney" can just as easily be complete bollocks as it is anywhere in the world, including the widespread rumor already referenced that CZJ is around 50 years old. There is no logical reason for Nicole Kidman to fake even one pregnancy, let alone two, considering she clearly has no problem with adopting children, given that she had two long before giving birth naturally. It certainly wouldn't damage her career for the world to know she's infertile, and even if she was, there was no reason she "needed" to have fake-bio children, never mind the fact that such a ruse would be virtually impossible to cover up. Btw we had this same line of bullshit when Katie Holmes got pregnant too, if you'll recall.
Remember: the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, not the elaborate conspiracy theory one.
Like someone upthread said, I don''t care about actors lying about their age either. Hollywood is a tough place that likes them young. If you can get your foot in the door by knocking off a few years, go for it. \
It''s like how some underage boys lied about their age just to get into the military during WW2 and other wars. \
It''s the silly ones like lying about your nationality or economic status. Hollywood doesn''t care that you slept in your car before you made it big because about 90% of them have been struggling actors themselves.
[quote]Hilary Swank lived in a trailer.\
And she will again, if her latest box office receipts are any indication.
Mrs. Warren Beatty
r15: Hi, Diana!\
...Er, I mean, Miss Ross! (Please don''t slap me now!)
Like you bitches don''t tell lies.. Please you hoes own this thread. Let''s continue with all the lies you told just today alone.
Wilmer Valderrama said he has "more than eight inches" on Howard Stern. It''s more like four inches.
The funny thing about Judy Lewis is that she looked so much like Loretta Young that everyone figured this one out very early on.
Erich von Stroheim pretended he was from Austrian nobility, but was actually from a middle class Jewish family. His entire back-story was fabricated, but it went with his bombastic character.%0D\
I have never heard of the Nicole Kidman-Antonia Kidman story and also live in Sydney. Antonia was still on Australian television during 2008, so any pregnancy would have been noticable, and commented upon, as she split from her husband in 2007 (she remarried in 2009 and went to live in Singapore). I think the stories about Nicole arose because she never looked heavily pregnant in photos during her pregnancy.
r85, lying about your roots is a big deal... Anywho, I try not to judge Loretta Young but she was so damn snooty. It had to be wonderful to talk about that at Ciro''s.
Admitting to having a child out of wedlock in the 1930s would have instantly killed Young''s career. Look what it did to Ingrid Bergman''s career a decade later; it took years for her career to recover from her affair and child with Rossellini. I can understand Loretta Young wanting to cover that up.%0D\
Young was also a conservative Catholic (and not a little bit of a priss about it, too), so she was probably in denial over the entire incident for the rest of her life.
Katie Holmes'' entire life since she met Crazy Tom. What a sad, pathetic person she is.
Among modern actors, Tom Cruise probably owns this thread. Everything about him is a lie, from his name to his marriages to his heterosexuality. And it''s odd that someone would say that Nicole Kidman faked a pregnancy before they brought up the whole Birth Of Suri Cruise mishegas. %0D\
Look, I was gossiping away through the whole thing, and it was surprisingly easy to believe. Holmes appeared in public looking several months more pregnant than she claimed to be, baby Suri appeared to be several months older than she was supposed to be, and there were reports of irregularities with the birth certificate. There wasn''t much of that with Kidman, just a belly that was smaller than expected. %0D\
And then there are all the rumors about Kelly Preston''s surprise late pregnancy.
Some of you act as though these celebrities of yore sat down and made this stuff up on their own.%0D\
The studios had PR departments who kept lists of names to give out to cover up "inconvenient" racial or religious backgrounds and publicists to write up backgrounds on new stars. Once the star signed with the studio, the wheels of publicity were set into motion with all the lies and the stars did as they were told.%0D\
IMO the deceit of stars today is worse because they are active participants in the formation of the lies.
I thought I remember reading that Nicole''s sister was in a hospital at the very same time that Nicole supposedly went in to give birth.
The Gyllenhaal parent''s wealth was a complete fabrication.
Margaret Cho claiming that she was friends with blacks and Latinos at her schools in SF when in TRUTH she only hung out with the other Asian kids and made great grades and went to one of the most prestigious public schools in the USA - Lowell HS.\
She has a new lie about "being bisexual" & in an "open relationship". She''s in an open relationship all right. Rev. Al is charging on her credit cards while he and his fatter than MC white gf charge everything to her & are living the good life. MC is supporting them. But since Rev Al''s gf is fatter than MC she''s ok with it.
I lived in Manhattan long enough (30 years plus) to know all latinos are very, VERY conscious of where their families hail from, especially in contrast to other latinos, and they can be very bigoted about each other's home country - just as euro-americans are about their own ancestry. (I am not latino, fyi.) Additionally, Colombian drug dealers in the coked up 80s were particularly vicious and "regular" Colombians faced a lot of prejudice. Finally, Puerto Rican-americans and those from DR (the Dominican Republic) absolutely hate each other. I lived in an uptown neighborhood, home to Irish and German immigrants up 'til the mid-80s when the whole neighborhood changed and Dominicans (and sulky white kids who couldn't find a place downtown) moved in. The old Cuban porter in my building (whom I'd known for those 30+ years) used to tell me Dominicans would eat my cats if they got out of my apartment! Anyone who walks around Manhattan thinking all latinos are the same probably thinks all african-americans are the same in NYC - which couldn't be farther from the truth. Are you also under the impression irish, scots, canadians and the welsh are the same? what about the chinese, the japanese, koreans, etc? and what about everyone in the middle east? Obviously I am losing it at this point. Why oh why would you display your ignorance like this? And how long have you lived in Manhattan? As my late father used to say: "How can you be so stupid?"
Colombians find it very hard to even enter the US on tourist visas. They are all considered drug traffickers.
[quote]I knew someone who for years, thought she didn''t have enough credits to have her degree, she was working as a waitress. Someone sat her down and counted all her credits, she had her degree.\
I don''t know what to do with this story.\
She never thought to count again herself?
Tom Cruise''s son is clearly not "adopted". If that''s not his biological son I''ll stand on my head. You have to be a real weirdo to lie about a thing like that. \
Very interesting stories. I didn''t know the vast majority of what I''ve read.
r.91--I was just about to mention Eric Von Stroheim--that''s one of my favorites!\
Took himself way seriously.\
The kicker is that Robert "I Don''t Give a Fuck" Mitchum wouldn''t play along, flat-out refusing to call him "Josef Von Sternberg" and always referred to him as "Joe Stern".
Leguizamo first started to become successful because of his 1 man shows. It was probably easier to sell those shows to New York audiences if he was presenting himself as a Puerto Rican New Yorker.
R103 - why would he lie? I agree with you - the son looks like him a lot - but I don''t know why TC would lie. Because the mother is black? But wouldn''t TC''s "proof" of heterosexuality trump adultery?
My neighbor was from Bogota and Leguizamo used to come to all of her "Colombian" dinners in the late 1990s. I think his mother used to come, too. So it''s not like he completely rejected his heritage.
Good question, r106. Connor does look a lot like Tom and I strongly suspect he is his son. It is bizarre to pretend he is adopted, if he is indeed Tom''s son. Maybe he is the son of one Tom''s sisters, who all look like Tom.
Puerto Ricans in the USA, like a lot of disapora, are highly nationalistic. So if you''re a celeb and you''re a boriqua, everyone in NYC from PR (where there''re tonnes of them) thinks you''re a hero. So basically it''s a cheap way to get fans, like living in Boston and claiming you''re Irish.
It''s pretty typical in the entertainment industry to deduct two years from your age. Men add two inches to their height. A lot of actors seem to have dropped out of school when they were two months/two credits shy of gratuating. %0D\
Whenever I hear some cute story about how someone was discovered I instantly discount it.
My favourite celebrity lie is how Jake Gyllenhaal is supposed to be this macho straight stud - who doesn''t mind being seen out with gays - but is ick! definitely not one of them, eww!
I haven''t seen his sisters, r108 but interesting theory. Monica''s (the singer) youngest son looks just like her brother (more than her or his father), so that''s plausible. \
@age comments. A close family friend who is a rapper just celebrated his 22 birthday, except we''re 2 months apart and I''m 6 years older than that. :)
[quote]I''m not too concerned with the lying about your age, or those who deny drug use. \
The age thing doesn''t bother me, but lying about drug use does. Delusional idiots. If you are a druggie then cop to it or GTFO.
Most outrageous is Sarah Palin''s lie about the Down''s kid being her baby.
Boy, you guys are slipping.%0D\
6 pages and not one mention of Kevin Spacey bragging about the women he''s slept with; I think the correct quote was that as far as the ladies was concerned, he''s "seen more ass than a toilet seat"
Didn''t Liz Taylor have an adopted daughter, who actually looked exactly like her? My mom still claims that daughter was not adopted.\
She has the same eyes as Liz.
Erich von Stroheim and Josef von Sternberg were different people. Which one was Mitchum tlking about?
You guys are drunk. Connor Cruise looks nothing like Tom Cruise, the only thing that is similar about them is that they are both good looking guys. Really, nothing more. Good Lord.
I've always thought that Dorothy Lamour was part African-American, but her Wiki bio only says: "Lamour was born Mary Leta Dorothy Slaton in New Orleans, Louisiana, the daughter of Carmen Louise (n%C3%A9e LaPorte) and John Watson Slaton, both of whom were waiters. Lamour had French Louisianan, Spanish and Irish descent."%0D
French Louisianan = a fancy way of saying Creole: (Wiki) Today, two types of Creoles exist in Louisiana. The former French Creoles are descendants of Europeans of French/Spanish descent in the New Orleans area; secondly, the term "Creoles of color", a 19th-century term, came to refer to mixed-race people of African and European ancestry (primarily French and Spanish, although later of additional ethnicities). Some Creoles of color may also have Native American heritage. Both groups of Creoles (European ancestry and Creoles of color) may have additional heritages, such as German, Irish or Italian, related to later immigrants. Most modern Creoles have family ties to Louisiana, particularly New Orleans; they are mostly Catholic in religion and through the nineteenth century, most spoke French and have had a major impact on the states culture.
I think we''re all just more than resigned to Kevin Spacey''s hustle. %0D\
The man was born telling porkies.
Re: Latin-Americans: Cubans look down on EVERYBODY. They see thamselves as the "purest" (no indian or black blood).
"You''ve got to have 2 years foreign language to get a bachelor''s degree from a NYS college."\
Totally not true in the mid 1990''s, r47.
BA with 6 credits of English only
"My favourite celebrity lie is how Jake Gyllenhaal is supposed to be this macho straight stud - who doesn''t mind being seen out with gays - but is ick! definitely not one of them, eww."%0D\
My favorite quasi-celebrities are people like Reese Rideout, Leo Giamatti, and Malachi Marx, all three screaming queens and seldom seen without a dick up their asses or in their mouths, claim they''re straight. Talk about liars.
"Didn''t Liz Taylor have an adopted daughter, who actually looked exactly like her?"%0D\
What about Liz Taylor''s "real daughter"? Fiction?%0D\
%E2%80%9CThe studio and her mother gave baby Norah away. Money was exchanged. Living in Ireland, the child, resenting the mother who gave her up, wanted nothing to do with Elizabeth.%0D\
%E2%80%9CHaving been with three men, Elizabeth was not sure of the father.%0D\
Carly Simon has an agreement with her two sisters: They all shave years off their ages.
[quote]I think the correct quote was that as far as the ladies was concerned, he''s "seen more ass than a toilet seat"\
Well, he has.
MALE ass, that is
[quote]Among modern actors, Tom Cruise probably owns this thread. Everything about him is a lie, from his name to his marriages to his heterosexuality. And it's odd that someone would say that Nicole Kidman faked a pregnancy before they brought up the whole Birth Of Suri Cruise mishegas.
If we're being technical, "Cruise" is his actual middle name, and while I know DL is very emotionally invested in the concept of his marriages being a myth, in reality we know nothing of the sort.
[quote]Look, I was gossiping away through the whole thing, and it was surprisingly easy to believe.
Conspiracy theories often are.
[quote]Holmes appeared in public looking several months more pregnant than she claimed to be
I love it when DL's gay-male contingent starts proselytizing expertise on female anatomy, but in any event, I saw the same pictures you did and it looked to me like the wind either blew up her shirt a bit, or she was simply wearing an unusually blousy top.
[quote]baby Suri appeared to be several months older than she was supposed to be
And again, DL gay men purporting to be experts on child development. Some kids grow faster than others. Yes, it really is that simple.
[quote]and there were reports of irregularities with the birth certificate.
Only vague and completely unconfirmed rumors.
[quote]And then there are all the rumors about Kelly Preston's surprise late pregnancy.
Another story entirely, but yes, that was almost certainly a turkey-baster baby. It's rare in the extreme for a woman to get pregnant naturally after 45, and rarer still when you're married to a homosexual.
Michael Jackson''s claim of having had no plastic surgery besides two nosejobs owns this thread.
R128, here''s a big juicy "fuck you" for your needless repetition of how little gay men know about the peculiarities of female baby bloat. We understood your point the first time. Hammering it in just makes you look like what you are - a nag.
What is the sound of one Scientologist wanking?
Sadly, R63, many would & do.
Angelina Jolie lied about her mother''s heritage...She claimed her mother is Iroquian Indian and than her father admitted later on that she really wasn''t Iroquian, they just put it in her resume because she''ll look interesting and exotic. She was a catholic girl from Chicago.
There are 2 types of French Louisianans, R119 - Creoles and Cajuns.''%0D\
Simply put, Cajuns are white French and Creoles are black French.%0D\
I''m not trying to dispute your claim that Dorothy Lamour might have had some African in her (of all the Southern states, Louisiana has an incredibly rich history of race mixing) but I am saying that you shouldn''t use the phrase French Louisiana as proof of anything.
"Creoles are black French."\
Oh fuck, R135, I said simply put. If you want to get technical, it's for all race people native to the Lousiana region before the territory was absorbed by the fledging US, and I have NEVER met a Louisiana black person call themselves a Cajun, only Creole.%0D
For the longer version:%0D
Historically, the term Creole is not exclusive to Louisiana. It was used in numerous former colonies, for populations in the West Indies, Mauritius and South America. The term was documented by Inca Garcilaso de la Vega in the early 17th century, "The name [criollo] was invented by the Negroes... They use it to mean a Negro born in the Indies, and they devised it to distinguish those who come from this side and were born in Guinea from those born in the New World.%0D
Another version: In 1590, Father J. de Acosta decided that the mixed-breeds born in the New World were neither Spanish, African, Indian, but various mixtures of all three, thus a created race. So he identified them as Criollos. The Spanish used the term to describe those born in the New World. Both ethnic Spanish colonists and ethnic Africans came to be called criollo if they were born in the New World.
Interesting for me to hear about why Leguizamo would lie about being Puerto Rican rather than Colombian -- as a non-Latino, I don''t know much about intra-Latino rivalries, but off the bat I actually would have associated being Colombian with higher status than being Puerto Rican.%0D\
Three years is the standard deduction applied to the "official" ages of actors in their biographies. %0D\
And for those posters who doubt that Nicole Kidman faked her pregnancies and Katie Holmes gave birth to Suri months before the official birth date -- come and have a look at this bridge over here. I''ll give you a great price for it because you''re obviously a savvy customer.
What''s really interesting is that people seem to think Celebrities have a responsibility to tell the truth.\
Being a celebrity, by it''s very nature, is artifice in which the truth is just one tool (and one of the lesser ones) used to sell the whole package .... and judging from the reams and reams and reams of threads on DL most people wouldn''t have it any other way.\
Used car salespeople lie to sell their product, why shouldn''t actors? If you don''t like being lied to, then I suggest you put down all those gossip mags you buy.
Didn''t Raymond Burr invent a dead son, marriages, and a war wound ?
I have no idea if the information about John Leguizamo lying about his heritage is true, but I will say this: It seems really strange to me that someone would do that and then create and star in five or six shows about his life and family, thereby making it necessary for him to continue lying very publicly for decades.
[quote]Didn''t Raymond Burr invent a dead son, marriages, and a war wound ?\
OMFG, yes! And the lies were really elaborate ones, too.
My shishter is shaying all kindsh of non-senshe thingsh about being moleshted.
"Re: Latin-Americans: Cubans look down on EVERYBODY. They see thamselves as the "purest" (no indian or black blood)."\
And don''t you EVER mistake a person from Spain of being Puerto Rican, Columbian, Ecuadorian, Chilean, Dominican etc. \
Spanish people, like Cubans, consider themselves Europeans and white.\
Let''s now forget, so many people escaped from Europe to Brazil before and during WW2. Model Giselle Bundchen was born in Brazil but her family is of German descent.
When I was in the Navy, I was often assigned to visiting officers from foreign navies. I was in Puerto Rico with two officers from the Venezuelan Navy. When we went into shops, I ended up "translating" because their Spanish was so different from Puerto Rican Spanish. One shopkeeper even asked me, "What language are they speaking?"
Are you sure the two officers of the Venezuelan Navy were not speaking portuguese, R144?
Yes, I''m certain because we conversed in Spanish. Portuguese is spoken in Brazil.
Dick Sargent (Darrin #2 on [italic]Bewitched[/italic]) also made up an ex-wife early in his career. Some people claim that he and Fannie Flagg were an item because they appeared together as a couple on [italic]TattleTales[/italic] (his NNDB bio even asserts that they were briefly married).
And best of all, r147, when they took roll-call back when he was in school, the teachers called him Sargent, Dick.
Actually, his real name was Dick Cox. :)
Also, I love the often used story by those who''ve had an obvious nose job that they had to do it for corrective surgery. %0D\
I''m talking about you, Tina Turner/Bristol Palin/Tyra Banks/Cameron Diaz...and so on.
R43 that is absolute bullshit. Antonia was not pregnant at that time. I saw her around our neighbourhood a lot. Kidman may not have been pregnant but Antonia was not the surrogate.
If Nicole Kidman''s sister, Antonia, was not a surrogate, then Nicole probably used someone else as a surrogate to have her first baby.
East Asian celebrities especially females have extensive plastic surgery to look more like white people. They fiercely deny it.
Bitches on DL insist Beyonc%C3%A9 is 5''8". She''s really 5''2".
I think Beyonce is more like 5 ft 6. 5 ft. 2 is waaay to short, but I agree that she''s not as tall as 5 ft. 8.
5''2"? Sorry, you are wrong about that...if you ever saw her in that skit on SNL with Timberlake and those other guys...they were all wearing heels and they did not look much taller than Beyonce.
Here''s a bit of John Leguizamo:\
His brother Sergio is a very sweet, honest, decent openly gay good- hearted guy. Absolutely nothing like the creature that John talks about in his many shows.\
John was at a family reunion going into one of his make believe memories -- Sergio stopped him mid fiction and said : "That''s your show Johnny, not reality." John cut him off there and then. Hasn''t spoken to him since.\
And Stockard Channing tells me -- when they would shoot a Wong Foo scene John would call back to New York to his comedy writers to give him lines to "improvise" on the set. The majority were cut because they were so pathetic. They found this out when a shot was rained out once and they had to quick shoot a different indoor scene. No access to phone, John was incredibly quiet.
Why would anyone admit the truth about graduating from the university of kentucky, much less lie about it?
There are plenty of black Cubans.
She''s proud of graduating from The Univrsity Of Kentucky. I think she regrets that she wasn''t raised in KY, since that is where her family is from.
There are black Cubans but most Cubans are bigots, sad to say and they are Republican, who knows why? Just stupid I guess.
thank you r157!
Bump for more filthy lies!
Jesus Christ R156 I have stood right next to her and I am 5''9" and TOWER over her. She is teeny tiny. Camera angles are everything.
Ashton Kutcher lying about his bothers me, but only because the media made so much of the age difference between him and Demi. Otherwise, I wouldn''t care at all.
R164, Beyonce is 5''6". Your perception must be off balance.%0D\
type How tall is Beyonce? into google.com and it comes up as 5''6" repeatedly from lots of different sources.
R166 I give up. She must have sawed her legs down those two months. I forgot that google had all the answers. I''m at least happy that google can finally verify that Geoge Clooney is gay once and for all.
Beyonce is a giantess. At least 7''3". AT LEAST.
I hate everyone on here who didn't tell about a celebrity who lied. I want more news, not some eff'n BS 'bout how your friend didn't know they had enough college credits. You all should get together and Heaven's Gate the f*ck out of here. Now make me a samich, ho!!
Not true that only the affluent hire hookers. Not true at all. There are white-collar clients, blue-collar clients and no-collar clients. Some only hire once a year when they get tax returns. Others spend an entire paycheck.
Clients are snowflakes and no two are ever the same.
Sandra Lee has lied. There are several inconsistencies in her bio that clash with her media interviews...like how her mom died when she was ten, but in her book she beats her bloody when she was 16. One of her ex-employees posted on TWOP (Television Without Pity) says that many of the stories she has told about her two grandmas are blatant lies as well. I hope Gov. Cuomo has had her investigated.
Sammy Davis, Jr. told everyone that his mother was Puerto Rican, but in reality, she was Cuban. He was told during the late 50s to "alter" her ancestry because of the anti-Cuban/Communist sentiment at the time. Understandable.
[quote]I hope Gov. Cuomo has had her investigated.
Since she's probably suckin' his dick, that ain't gonna happen.
Loretta Young always had a "cuss jar" on her set. One actor who had grown tired of it being such a major deal to Loretta, asked her how much he would have to pay for certain minor curses. Once he heard the charges, he pulled out a dollar, put it in the jar and told Loretta to go fuck herself.
Clark Gable doesn't come off so well in that whole Judy Lewis fiasco either. Judy wrote that he showed up at the house one day and they had a nice little chat without Loretta being involved. Clark left after a while but never tried to keep in touch with his daughter after that episode. I wonder if she had been a boy if Clark would have been more amenable to acknowledging his child.
[quote]Sammy Davis, Jr. told everyone that his mother was Puerto Rican, but in reality, she was Cuban
I believe it because he always did look rather Afro Cuban if anything.
Celebrity itself is basically a lie. Nearly all of them without exception are huge liars and phonies.
"Also, I love the often used story by those who've had an obvious nose job that they had to do it for corrective surgery.
I'm talking about you, Tina Turner [et al]"
Well, Ike did occasionally smash her nose across her face...
Probably does come under "corrective surgery"
Well they either had corrective surgery or their noses shrunk! These unusual circumstances seem to afflict famous people in huge proportions:
I believe Nicole Kidman faked her pregnancy only because she was photographed wearing tight white jeans a few days later. No woman who has just given birth will wear white anything out of the house for a few weeks.
Very good point, R179. And we all know that Beyonce got caught with a fake pregnant stomach on camera.
Speaking of lies, that Nicomi site about Nicole Kidman and Naomi Watts absolutely convinced me that they have or have had a lesbian relationship.
r173, that was Robert Mitchum.
Considering what a belligerent fuck he was, I'm surprised that was all he told her.
I thought I read that Loretta Young went to stay upstate California to have her baby and that's where the baby was cared for until Young brought her home. I can't remember if Young had private caretakers for her or not. I also can't remember if Young would visit her during that time.
College requirements are normally set by whatever entity accredits them not by states. If you don't know what you need to graduate then you're an idiot.
Jolie's mom did have some Native American ancestry. Her family was French Canadian (originally from France obviously) but more recently from Quebec and was IIRC 1st or 2nd generation in the US - Chicago.
[quote]Britney Spears lying about her virginity for years.
In Britney's defense (wow, can't believe I just typed that) it's the American puritanical view on sex that caused her to have to lie about her virginity in the first place. And why was she even asked to comment on it? Demanding that anyone make public statements about whether or not they're fucking is out of line, even if they are a celebrity.
And yes, I realize that this is Datalounge where celebs' sex lives are speculated about constantly, but a bunch of nobodies speculating on a message board vs. actually asking someone to make a public statement about their sex life are two completely different things.
Here is a post from R69 on the thread about Diane Keaton's autobiography:
"[R68], I understand what you are saying, but in autobiographies in most cases, they lie big time to make themselves look really slick. You'll never read, I slept with this many people, or I was a real miserable bitch or a bastard to everyone. In most cases they gloss over or skip the parts in their lives that some had homosexual affairs or they lived bisexual lives or tarnish their images. They formulate this phony make believe image of themselves that is the image they want you to believe. I once read that over years there have been a lot of famous people in the closet, and they write autobiographies to portray themselves as straight when in reality the truth is just the opposite. Also, many of them write autobiographies portraying themselves as straight so when they die, and someone writes a biography claiming the opposite is the reality, then it will put a question mark in the public’s head wondering what is truth and what is fiction.
I’ll give you an example, I just finished reading June Allyson’s autobiography, and she makes herself out to be this squeaky clean image. Now, I just read a list of actresses in the gossip columnists website, which there is a list of female movie stars who had sexual affairs with a woman once, or they were a lesbian, or they were bisexual. June Allyson was on that list, and she never said one word in the remotest degree.
BTW, Barbra Streisand said she is going to write an autobiography. Right! Like she is going to give the reader the full, honest, picture of her life? Is she going to mention how she has treated people like dirt? her numerous affairs? Please!"
"Re: Latin-Americans: Cubans look down on EVERYBODY. They see thamselves as the "purest" (no indian or black blood)."
This is patently false. Henry Louis Gates Jr. did a series on PBS called Black in Latin America and visited Cuba. In many Latin countries, heroic figures of African descent have been 'whitened' up. Cuba has a caste system of sorts with the Europeans at the top and the African descendants at the bottom. Back when Elio Gonzales was found floating on a raft and whisked to Florida only to be returned to his father, it was widely reported that he became a figure of interest because of his "whiteness" when compared to your garden variety Cuban.
RHOA Kim Zolciak always claims she was a nurse. But on "Before They Were Stars" it's plain that she spent only a very short time in nursing school.
And not to mention the most famous Cuban celebrity of all, Celia Cruz
R43 needs to back up their Nicole Kidman claim. You can't just say "I know for a fact" and not explain how you know.
I'm from Sydney and I've heard some stuff from insiders but I sure as hell don't "know for a fact" what really went on.
I know Cubans say the thing about having no "Indian" blood, because the Spanish slaughtered all the Indians when they got to Cuba. Complete genocide. But no blacks in Cuba? Even the most right wing, racist Cuban wouldn't say that. They might claim to have no black blood themselves, but I don't care how white you claim to be, every Cuban has a black relative.
"White" Cuban with MANY black relatives.
[quote]To me the worst is when they play on the "victim prevailing against all odds" myth. It's about how terribly poor they were, how awful their parent(s) treated them and usually some kind of rape or molestation thrown in. Tyler Perry and Oprah do that. Relatives of Oprah tell a different story.
Scott Brown is trying to build his future political career on having eaten government cheese while having a camp counselor covet his no-no place.
Lying has become the norm in all industries. It's couched in terms like "narrative" or "story-telling." But it's all about embellishment.
Regarding Nicole Kidman's so called 'Fake Pregnancy' - I actually believe that her first pregnancy was probably real. Some women can have very small bumps, I know of at least two cases personally myself!! And gym bunnies will snap back into shape quicker if they were watching their diets and exercising during it too. There was also a case in the UK of a wag who was also accused of faking hers too, but her bump just developed later and was small.
Also despite her vanity, Kidman is not stupid, and anyone faking a pregnancy would have used a much bigger bump in the first place. To make it obvious for PR. reasons.
Also, convinced TC is gay as heck - and I suspect could be the infamous Toothy too. What better way to conceal a relationship and have a secret love child but in plain sight!!
There are plenty of black Cubans.
Of course there are - in fact the majority of Cubans are black. But they've been segregated away in the Communist island with no plans of integrating into capitalist societies - until now.
However, it IS also true that the Cuban elite living all over the world - mostly Miami - for the last 50 years, is amongst the whitest, non-mixed races in the Caribbean.
Simply put, 500 years of not mixing with the help produced a very black and white society in Cuba. Part of the reason there was a revolution.
The old time Cubans in Miami...there is no excuse for their arrogance, they brought their own coutry down because of their greed. They got what they deserved.
Celebrities are full of half truths. They can't really be honest about their lives. They can't actually admit that they got a leg up by sucking cock or fucking the daughter of that big name director.
All the bearding and merkining is of course some of the primary dishonesty of celebrities. It's one thing to pretend to hook up for PR attention, or even to arrange your relationships to further your career. But the bearding routine to cover up your being gay is a major example of LIAR LIAR LIAR!
Some even marry on contract. Don't they, Tammy?
Sophia Loren lying about age and plastic surgery.
She says she's in her 70s now and was Miss Naples in 1944. Do the math. She was NOT "Little Miss Naples," but well into her teens.
Plus she says she's never had any plastic surgery.
R121 is right. In the 1980 census, which had only "Hispanic" as a choice of ethnicity, 80% of Cubans checked white. Very strange census numbers came out of those in florida.
I wonder if Terrence Howard ever claimed to have a big cock, because we've certainly got evidence to the contrary.
I suddenly have a gnawing yen for button mushrooms for dinner!
The bearding gets on my nerves but the fact that the public never seems to wise up, that bothers me more. Why are people so stupid?
Alec Baldwin says he's "French and Irish" but actually he's a Connecticut Yankee.
I've never read an honest CEO biography. Not one. Not ever.
r203, Alec is an Irish boy from Long island
Baldwin's mother is of French descent. His father was English and Irish, and the children were all raised Catholic.
Bet you a sawbuck that Thomas Jane was no street hustler but a kept man.
I think David Geffen had his biographer killed.
Criollos in Spanish America were whites who were born in Latin America instead of Spain. Mixed race were Mestizos, mulattos, and so on and so forth.
Creoles in the US were French born in the US but sometimes they had Indian blood. When Santo Domingo had a slave revolt in 1792, whites, free blacks, and mulattos fled to New Orleans and referred to themselves as Creoles to distinguish themselves from slaves. When the United States took over shortly after, they referred to all Louisianans of French and Spanish descent as Creoles, even slaves, and so it acquired its generic meaning, used chiefly to distinguish its often African based cuisine from that of the redneck Canadian French Cajuns.
A friend of mine who was president of a large technology company listed his college major as "physics" when really it was "government" because he thought government had a negative connotation in business.
A CEO I worked for listed his college major as "operations" when his college had no such major.
[R202] I SO agree. Especially when people eat it up...which is why I suppose Hollywood keeps thinking that they can do it... especially with 'fangirls'. Oh good god!!!!!
They are SO delusional, even with the blatantly obvious. It's not like they'll ever really have a chance with them anyway... but god forbid their heartthrob not be a straight boy.
R203, you're an idiot.
No, R40, you've got it ass backwards, it's even far more prevalent today! Not just with actors, but also with political and media people.
To me the worst is when they play on the "victim prevailing against all odds" myth.
Halle Berry and every husband shes had.
It's very common, R215. Anyone that plays the victim is actually a huge asshole, as a rule.
[r40] there was TREMEDOUS discrimination toward mixed race people and Jews in Hollywood and Europe. They made a choice to protect their careers, just like gay people beard up when they go to Hollywood. The different is back then there was NO way a mixed race actor would ever work again, while today gay people have opportunities but don't want to work to allow others to have the same ones they do. They won't be open and therefore won't allow others to be open. It's the same with people behind the scenes.
The only useful thing I got from this thread was "well known in Sydney" as a description of something almost certainly false.
There was a PBS doc about Lugosi. It said he was the son of a baker and constantly rewriting his bio to make himself "destined" for greatness.
"Lugosi, the youngest of four children, was born as Béla Ferenc Dezső Blaskó in Lugos"
He thought he was above things and even turned down Frankenstein. Karloff got the role. Karloff and Lugosi made movies together (Lugosi flayed Karloff alive.) The best was Son of Frankenstein. Lugosi was Ygor. When Karloff (& others) found that Lugosi wasn't being paid a comparable salary, they forced Universal to pay Lugosi properly.
Sorry, I think Lugosi is one of those "pride cometh before the fall."
J. Depp owns his house in LA, right?
Stroheim invented the myth of his being an Austrian Catholic nobleman with a military background completely on his own when he first emigrated to the U.S. I'm sure plenty of his fellow European Jews in Hollywood knew it was just a pose but since they were all trying to pass for gentile in one way or another themselves they didn't feel the need to out him. Antisemitism was rampant in the U.S. in the early twentieth century and there was enough suspicion about the movie studios being run by Jews (which they mostly were except for Disney) without calling attention to how many of the writers and actors and directors involved in making the films were also Jews.
Josef von Sternberg's real name was Joseph Sternberg (means "star mountain"), just as Stroheim's was just plain Erich Stroheim (means "straw house"--you can tell who came from a classier family background.) He claimed the aristocratic designation "von" got tacked onto his name by some studio functionary, but he was probably just copying Stroheim.
[quote]She says she's in her 70s now and was Miss Naples in 1944. Do the math. She was NOT "Little Miss Naples," but well into her teens.
She was 14 when she entered the "Queen of the Sea" pageant. Her mother lied because she could pass for 15 (the minimum age).
For the Spanish people here... singer Luis Miguel claimed in the early 90s that he was born in Veracruz, Mexico, but he was born in Puerto Rico. His father, Luis Rey, told this lie so Luis Miguel could be accepted into the Latin music industry more easily.
Oh, I used to work with an actress who was a pathological liar. She's not really famous (sorry) but her name is Susan Ward and she was a soap star in the 90s and then became a men's magazine model and did a few junky B movies and some TV work. She was a piece of work.
She first got famous on a soap, playing a very virginal, girl next door character. She continually lied to promote a fake image, telling interviewers she didn't drink, hated smoking and parties, was devoted to animals and her pets, had no interest in fame, and was so modest she was uncomfortable being nude in front of her own longtime boyfriend, who she planned to marry and move to Montana with.
During a break from filming she had breast implant surgery (from like an A to a DD) without telling anyone on the show, because she wanted to escape being "stuck on a stupid soap" and become a movie star. Then she slept with some producer whose dad owned a movie studio, and he cast her in a low budget 'erotic thriller' playing the sexy bad girl. To promote the movie she posed nude or nearly nude for every men's magazine out there and did a 180 image change. Overnight she went from pretending to be a goody two shoes homebody to partying constantly and spending every interview talking about her wild sexual exploits and love of hard drinking. She also got rid of her pets, who she'd spent four years claiming were her most special, precious babies who she lived for and she'd die if they were ever parted.
She cheated on her longterm partner/fiancé with the movie studio owner's son, carried on a secret affair with him during the location shoot, but did 'lovey dovey couple' interviews with her fiancé when he visited her. Then dumped him, started openly dating the rich guy, then a year later gave an interview about their relationship where she revealed they'd been together for two years and went into detail of how they fell in love on the set of his dad's movie and how romantic it was, ignoring the fact that during the entire time she was filming that movie and for 6 months afterwards she was not only engaged to another man but was flogging that relationship to the press. When people called her out for basically admitting to cheating and lying, she threw a tantrum and demanded any photos of her and her ex-fiancé, and any interview they did together or where she talked about him, were to be removed from the internet. Like she could pretend he'd never existed.
She regularly had her manager/publicist/best friend send out press releases announcing things that turned out not to be true, or wildly exaggerated, like saying she was going to be on a cover of a magazine when it was a half page article. The best was the press release announcing, "Last night Susan Ward attended the Grammy Awards and the MTV afterparty where she had a great time partying with celebs Madonna and Kid Rock, both of whom confessed to being Susan Ward fans!!" (ACTUAL PRESS RELEASE.) Weird enough, but later she was forced to admit that she hadn't even attended the Grammys or any of the parties in the first place!
Her biggest whopper, she claimed that when she was 13, a model scout for saw her in a mall and asked her to move to NY to model for Elite, so at age 13 she dropped out of school, moved from Louisiana to NY all by herself (without any parent or guardian) and had to find her own place to live, so she looked in the newspaper and instantly found a room sharing an apartment with a group of adults who were all famous and rich and fabulous. Model agencies do bring young potential models to live in NY but they always live in the model apartments the agencies own, where they can be supervised. And finding roommates via a newspaper ad! Can you imagine putting an ad in a paper looking for a roommate, and a 13 year old kid answers? She fluctuated between claiming she left school and claiming she flew back to Louisiana any time she had to sit exams and graduated despite never attending any classes. There is not a jot of evidence she was ever a teen model, not a single photo, and several of her old high school teachers and other kids said it was news to them because she was living in LA and attending high school every day.
Then she accompanied a friend to an acting class and "just knew" she was destined to be a great actress, and instantly landed a starring role on a soap (actually she had a recurring under 5 part as a waitress) then moved to LA, she can't keep that story straight. Sometimes she claims she went home and enrolled in college, but knew she wanted to act so quit school and moved to LA on a whim where she lived hand-to-mouth for months with her only possessions an air mattress and an alarm clock. Sometimes she claims Aaron Spelling saw her on the NY soap and was so impressed with her delivery of 'would you like a coke with that' he flew her to LA at his expense to audition for his new show and voilà TV star.
Is this Susan Ward?
IMDB is full of pathological liars.
R224, by IMDB do you mean the posters, mods, etc.?
r224 here. Sorry I wasn't really clear. My nephew and his friends work in film (ADR, Make-up, Hair). They post fake jobs for independent film and for some high profile ones by using contacts through friends. When they get jobs, they help their friends by posting them for jobs they didn't have. I asked him why no one outside their "circle" who actually worked on the films doesn't call them out on it and he said, "Hollywood is all about story-telling."
Susan Ward, who I don't know, has a bio that reads completely false. You can randomly pick IMDB bios and they read like pure bullshit.
Thank you, R227. That is actually very insightful.
Again and again and again(both from DL and elsewhere) my view becomes more solidified that the lives of famous people(and not just movie stars/celebrities in the traditional sense) are pretty much complete fabrications. I bet that Hollywood screenwriters are just as busy writing 'biographies' and scripts for the lives of famous people as they are in actually writing movies and TV shows.
Well I wouldn't know about lying. I'm just a good little girl from the South.
r222, is it easier to be Mexican than Puerto Rican in the latin american music scene? I never knew this mattered. Ricky Martin is very popular, so why did Luis Miguel do this?
I think we have to face the fact that The Kardashian's are the biggest liars in town.
Puerto Rican here.
I don't know about the music industry, but I've come to notice that for acting, Puerto Rican actors struggle quite a bit outside of the island. Reason for this is because our accent is very distinctive and strong. Not to mention that the largest producers of telenovelas are based in Mexico, with other countries (Venezuela being the second largest distributor) to follow. But basically, the production companies are pleasing their audience. You have Mexican telenovelas with either a very neutral voice or a Mexican accent. A Puerto Rican actor/actress has to get rid of their accent to fit the role. The neutral voice is used so that everyone no matter what part of latin america they are from, can engage in the story and not be thrown off by accents. Or at least that's what i've always thought.
For that commenter who mentioned that they thought Colombians were a higher status than Puerto Ricans..... FUCK YOU!
Until I moved to the U.S. (and experienced it firsthand) I would've never believed that there was so much in-fighting going on within the Latino community... it's a shame.
Another Puerto Rican here -
I think with Luis Miguel, it had more to do with the fact that he was raised in Mexico and already had a Mexican accent. Labeling him Puerto Rican would have confused the issue, perhaps even deprived him of some cultural legitimacy, a very important factor with Latin audiences.
Had it been revealed he was Puerto Rican born, these would have been the two polar reactions from his respective heritages:
"You're Puerto Rican? But you sound Mexican! Sell out! Denying your heritage by pandering to another market...and that accent! As a Puerto Rican, I'm not supporting you"
"You sound Mexican, you live Mexican, you breathe Mexican ... but you were born in Puerto Rico. As a proud Mexican, there's no way I'm buying an album of Mexican mariachis, songs by Mexican writers, or tuning in to Mexican TV for a show by a Puerto Rican Mexican-wannabe."
Of course, Luis Miguel ended up being a supremely talented, charismatic child star who won the hearts of all and crossed national borders, but by then he did not need the label of deceit on him. Later in life, and with much support and tolerance from all his loving audiences, all was dismissed/forgiven. They've even written off his wild sexcapades.
Judy Garland made some tapes for an autobiography project that was never completed. Obviously drunk or stoned, she raged about all the liars, "the stupid ones", who have been saying she's into drugs and alcohol. She goes on to that after all she's been through, as far as the chronic consumption of drugs and booze goes: "well, it's a wonder I haven't!"
River Phoenix, who died of a massive overdose, said this in an interview: "I've always shied away from the seedy side of Hollywood. I don't do drugs. I get a big enough high from life without trying anything like that. I'm so straight I don't even eat meat and even my dogs are vegetarians."
That was cool, R223. Thanks.
r223, that is hilarious to me. It sounds so similar to some crazy fan on a Vin Diesel board about 8 years ago. Except that liar liar claimed to be some genius fashion designer/model, too, although she couldn't decide if she was Frankie Rayder or Adriana Lima in the photos of "herself" on the catwalk. Apparently, she wasn't aware that "regular people" received the Victoria's Secret catalog. Good times.
[quote]Susan Ward, who I don't know, has a bio that reads completely false. You can randomly pick IMDB bios and they read like pure bullshit.
To be fair, a lot of bios are put up by fans/fansites. You all know how crazy that could get.
I think David Geffen had his biographer killed.
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See r233, I tend to disagree that Luisito Rey started the lie that Luis Miguel was Mexican because he already had a Mexican accent. The truth is that, whether in the 80s or right now, you have to conquer the Mexican public/music industry if you want to make it big in Latin America. Luisito Rey knew this, and in order to make Luis Miguel 'one of them' he started the lie that he was from Veracruz. I read Luis Miguel unauthorized biography "Luismi Rey', and the writer makes it clear that that was the reason for saying Luis Miguel was born in Mexico.
Besides, does Luis Miguel really speaks with a Mexican accent? Even now? I would say he was a very distinctive way of speaking (even accent neutral?). His father was from Spain and his mother Italian... he has a strange, almost upper-class, mixture of both. It was never about the accent, and everything about entering the Mexican music industry. He did and the rest is history.
r230, you have to take this information in the context of its time. Perhaps now it is easier for someone not from Mexico become a star in all of Latin America (like those reguetoneros), but I am mostly talking about the 80s and 90s. Ricky Martin in the early 90s was doing 'Alcanzar una estrella II' in Mexico. He was also part of Menudo which gave him a greater audience. Luis Miguel was never part of any group. So, yes, in those time if you wanted to make it big, you would have to conquer the Mexican music industry first.
Beyonce claimed she was pregnant.
r173, I thought that Loretta told Clark to stay away and he respected her wishes. I don't think Clark is to blame at all for not being in Judy's life.
Beyonce claimed she was pregnant.
Everything about her is a lie.
Down to her shitty music she ripped off from Donna Summers,Dianna Ross, Tina Turner and so on and so on......
She would have ripped off Lady Gaga too which she did with the whole Sasha Fierce shit.
Gaga's creativity limited what she could actually steal from her and how much of it.
If Gaga weren't famous she wouldn't have been in any of Bey videos. Bey would have stole everything from her .
I'm really hot for the ladies coming down to the Virgin Islands and spending hot nights with me, because I'm hot for the ladies. And that sad mistake with Renee was just because I honestly didn't know what being married was going to be like. You know.
R244, the only thing original about Beyawnce is her unoriginality. She OWNS it!!
Beyonce's big round and oddly floppy ass and snatch always makes me wonder if her clit sounds like a little bell clapper tinking in that loose metallic snatch of hers.
Like every time it rings an angel gets its Kotex Wings.
CANNOT BELIEVE NOBODY MENTIONED THE ONE AND ONLY DINA LOHAN!!!!!!!!!!
She has run around for years saying she used to be a Rockette and either last year or the year before, the CEO or General Manager of the Rockettes issued a statement in which he called Dina out on her bullshit. It was something about how special being a rockette has been for the hundreds of ladies in the organization's history and that Dina lying about being a rockette is an affront to the entire organization. It was pretty good.
R187 , Kim Zolciak was actually an LPN (licensed practical nurse - NOT an RN). She has let her license lapse years ago. I don't know how long she was a nurse, but she did go to school and graduate.
so many of you don't seem to understand the concept of PR. This isn't lying.
Celebrity is a fantasy. When you are one, you are promoting the business of fantasy. They's not lying to you to deceive you, it's so that you'll buy the fantasy of how they want to be perceived. Remember how Norma Desmond said "great stars have great pride?" she should have said great stars have a great narrative.
Nearly everyone on this thread (and DL in general) doesn't truly understand what celebrity life is like behind the curtain.
Phaedra's 10 month pregnancy.
Kim Zolciak went from LPN to professional cocksucker--how clever!
r99, Sophia Loren would have been 10 in 1944, as she was born in 1934 and is 76 now. It is well documented she was a child when Naples was bombed during the war.
Connie Francis claims to be born in Newark, NJ, while her family did live in the Ironbound area they were visiting friends in Brooklyn when Ida went into labor. Connie was born at St. John's Hospital on Atlantic Avenue, now part of Interfaith Medical Center.
During WW2 many people escaped from Europe to South America, Ecuador included, which is where my parents are from. My mom is half European/half Ecuadorian and don't you ever confuse her for being Cuban. She will go OFF On you!
The BIGGEST lie that's been going on? That Kristen Stewart is straight.
r256 is in 3rd grade.
I had to chuckle about Catherine Zeta-Jones. I remember she was 33 yrs old forever until I was listening to my favorite radio station one day and people were calling in from across the country and one lady even called in from Wales saying she went to school with her. They all said there's no way she was then 33. LOL...
Nelly use to lie about his age too. I use to think about how young he was but truthfully he was already in his 30s. I met people who went to high school with him too and they said he was older than they were.
Unfortunately, all the drug addiction linked to him now is sad. The people who know him say he had no stable home life as a child. He would sleep house to house, couch to couch.
Some of you all are harsh on Beyonce. I like her but I don't have a clue why she doesn't think her pregnancy seemed "odd" to the public. I believed her until I saw that picture of a deflated belly. Still don't know for sure.
They all lie. I think just about every celebrity interview is a mixture of lies, half truths and scripted PR fantasy.
[quote]Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic are TWO DIFFERENT countries!
It's hard to take anything seriously from someone who thinks Puerto Rico is a country.
Brooke Shields did the same thing about that virginal image. However, I'm not so sure people were asking these ladies about their virginity moreso than they wanted an image. Brooke kept up that lie forever until Dean Cain said he had sex with her while dating when she was at Princeton.
Making the kinds of movies she was as a child I can't believe she didn't try sex unless she called it something else. You know some cultures have anal sex so they can say they didn't have sex before marriage...not saying this is what Brooke did but it could've been oral too.
Oprah's family is so back woods they don't believe anything. When she was in her early 20s she told her father she had been molested by relatives and he has publicly said that he didn't believe her but he came to understand she was telling the truth. They probably didn't want to believe the molestion because a) They were all relatives b) Because you just don't talk about those "things'.
Also, the book with Kitty Kelly, Oprah's family was dirty rotten for collaborating with Kelly. Her own aunt told Kelly she knows who Oprah's REAL father is but will not tell until Oprah's mother tells her. WTH??? How cruel is that and I bet that woman sits up in a church every Sunday!
"Making the kinds of movies she was as a child I can't believe she didn't try sex unless she called it something else"
Weird logic. Actually, she said she was uncomfortable with sex for years because of being sexualized at a young age.
"Brooke kept up that lie forever until Dean Cain said he had sex with her while dating when she was at Princeton."
When did he say that? Besides, I think she was claiming to be a virgin BEFORE she went to college.
Keanu Reeves lies and says he likes the vagina, but he is strickly dickly.
There has to be some juicy lies out there about JLo. She is so damned careful and deliberate about her image and her packaging and the staged photos of her with her kids.
R111 and R266 sound like a lot of celebs. Not lookin at you Supernatural boys at all.
Any multiple-role actor who's ever claimed he/she "just stumbled into" professional acting, or stayed with TV/film for reasons other than superficial ones.
It's weird, because as exclusive and cut-throat as Hollywood is, it's one of few remaining industries where you can fake it really hard, or get a high paying career for something as dumb as fucking the right person at the right time.
And don't say PR isn't lying. The outright false statements are actual lies. If you want to say you're okay with lies, just say that.
People may be getting dumber, BUT celeb-obsessed people also look online and educate themselves about the business side of this stuff. Most of them know about PR (but don't care if it's their FAVORITE celeb), and it's becoming virtually impossible to create a prestigious backstory that didn't happen, thanks to tha internetz.
I remember my first time at a fancy cocktail reception that I went to for my dad's work in some ridiculous NYC hotel penthouse. I was 16 but looked older, and everyone kept giving me business cards and introducing themselves. Finally when I told this one youngish woman that I was NOT part of their industry and only 16 with no job, she said, "this is the REAL WORLD. Just make something up and sell it!"
Suspicious of everyone ever since.
I asked a Puerto Rican friend once about the Leguizamo business and she said it was because everybody associated Columbia with drug dealing and being a PR was considered more respectable.
She also told me that she considers herself mixed race--Taino (the native Puerto Ricans who lived there when Columbus and whom the invaders reportedly found incredibly hot), African and Spanish (who themselves have some African ancestry.)
[quote]There has to be some juicy lies out there about JLo. She is so damned careful and deliberate about her image and her packaging and the staged photos of her with her kids.
Well, didn't she say that she was from some rough neighborhood from the Bronx and that her family was poor and struggled? When in fact they were middle class and lived in a modest house.
If an actor has an Irish sounding name and does not look stereotypically Irish, they will be urged to change it or lose work. Jews in Hollywood have always faced the same choice. False assumptions are still so rampant that Anglicizing one's name for business or social reasons is still commonplace.
R264, Many family members deny or excuse anything that would make their family look less than perfect, especially any form of abuse or mental illness. Some refuse to accept the truth. Others realize that it will affect future careers and friendships if their family is considered "tainted." Witness the viciousness of some haters on DL, to those who confess personal stresses anonymously for proof of how morally rotten some are to the unfortunate.
This thread is full of misinformation and lies. It's funny.
Anyway, as for Catherine Zeta Jones and her age, I don't understand why some say she couldn't lie about it since she was a child star, etc. That means nothing.
Remember, Mila Kunis lied about being 18 when in fact she was 14 in order to work on That 70s Show.
"Remember, Mila Kunis lied about being 18 when in fact she was 14 in order to work on That 70s Show."
Whenever an actor says that, I presume they're retroactively lying about their age.
I've worked in finance at various companies and I can tell you that 100% of the biographies of the corporate officers have false or made up information in them. Once you get above the level of vice-president, every single one of them has fabricated their resume.
That's true, R275 but when I saw her on That 70s Show, she looked much younger than the rest of the cast playing teens.
I remember Catherine Zeta-Jones being 31 or 32 for about 4 years, as the earlier poster mentioned.
Isn't Heather Locklear still claiming to be early 40's or something ridiculous like that? She must have been the oldest looking 14 year-old in the world when she was on TJ Hooker and Dynasty back in the early 80s lol!
God you people, give it up with CZJ's "true" age. She was a child performer. Her age has been documented to the fullest. Accept and let go.
Patsy Stone has been 39 for almost 30 years now.
R267 - not juicy but JLo claims that she hasn't had plastic surgery. COMPARE THE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS. Bitch had, at the very least, her nose done.
And I wish she would have that boil she calls a boyfriend removed. Casper? Is that his name? What a tool.
J. Lo has quite the rep. From In Living Color to her solo career, she's been known to get around.
Look at her, she dated black guys when she was unknown (same thing Paula Abdul did too when she was a Laker) then dated white men once she became a famous actress/singer. Diddy wasn't that serious. She had no plans to marry him. She ran back to Marc after Ben Affleck dumped her. She didn't care that Marc had just renewed his vows with his wife. She was ready to start a family and have Puerto Rican children.
Terrence Howard is one weirdo. I think the women in Hollywood have caught on to him. His ex-wife wouldn't even take him back.
He said he wants women he's with to use wet wipes after they use the bathroom. LOL....
I think he need some mental help after seeing his father kill that man.
I notice that Kidman was very, very tiny carrying her daughter Sunday. In one photo it didn't look real.
Not one of Tom's wives got pregnant by him but Katie and you have to wonder about that. Suri looks exactly like her mom to me.
When Tom's first wife was asked if he could have children, she said "you'll notice I got pregnant (after they divorced)."
I feel sorry for the two older children. They were never with Kidman after the divore and she said she was still friends with Cruise. I couldn't be friends taking my kids away. The older kids seem to have no stable careers. It's nice to be a DJ when you're in college.
James Woods once bragged in an interview for some 1980s magazine that he got a 779 on his math SAT score.
All actual SAT scores have to end in zero. 770 is possible, and so is 780, but 779 is not.
[quote]In Britney's defense (wow, can't believe I just typed that) it's the American puritanical view on sex that caused her to have to lie about her virginity in the first place.
The "American puritanical view on sex" [sic] may be the background to her lie, but she lied of her own volition. Nothing "caused" her to lie.
People are autonomous and have free wills.
River Phoenix and is dietary lies
Has anybody seen this story about Lucy and Desi Arnaz's secret daughter/granddaughter?
Re: June Allyson's virginal image, mentioned up thread... I have a friend who was in the chorus of Forty Carats who said June had a thing for sucking off stagehands before going onstage.
Madonna was broke when she arrived in NYC, took all of $500 for nude photos, and used to work the elevator at DNceteria (or so I've heard).
She wasn't broke-broke, but she was hardly rolling in cash, but she did have opportunities. I think she had been in Europe a few years before that with some type of development contract so no she wasn't destitute.
Babe Ruth was definitely black/latino more than lily-White.
Wow, r292. We were just talking about how Ruth looks like he has American Indian ancestry.
Wow, r292. There are still people who give a damn.
Going just by the Gypsy Rose Lee-June Havoc sage, Catherine Zeta-Jones's child stardom may mean she's been subject to age-fudging her entire life.
One of my old friends became president of tech company. He listed his undergrad major as "physics" when it was really "government."
Stuff like that is typical.
R133 R182 - Jolie's mother "Marcheline" was born "Marcia Lynne". I guess her birth name was French or exotic enough.
Perhaps Leguizamo's father is the one who's lying.
Sandra Lee is a big liar, making up stories about how her two grandmothers gave her recipe ideas when she actually had helpers. Lying about her mother being dead when she was actually alive.
The biggest lie is that Keanu is a rice queen. He likes white men too.
[quote]I asked a Puerto Rican friend once about the Leguizamo business and she said it was because everybody associated Columbia with drug dealing and being a PR was considered more respectable.
Jesus, what is Colombia like if pretending to be Puerto Rican is "more respectable"?
I think Leguizamo got his start doing one man shows and it was easier to get a NY audience to show up if it starred a Puerto Rican.
In pop music, Beyonce is probably the most deceptive of them all - for God's sake, that woman has no integrity. She does hair dye commercials WHILE wearing a wig! Are you telling me she goes to CVS and buys Feria and dyes her $2,000 wig with a $10 box of dye?
Rihanna is probably the most honest and has no secrets...for better or worse.
In movies, the Gyllenhaal siblings whole back story is very suspect and they both have lied about a lot (or so I'm lead to believe).
Sarah Jessica Parker seems to be one of the most honest of actors. She was very open about using surrogates. She doesn't air all her dirty laundry regarding her relationship with her husband, but she doesn't lie about it either.
Quoted for truth about Beyonce R303. I HATE her fake-ass Feria commercials. Like we don't know her hair DOESN'T look like that.
[quote]Sandra Lee is a big liar. Lying about her mother being dead when she was actually alive.
Well, she's dead TO ME!
I would say Beyonce is the biggest faker of all.
Loretta Young saying she adopted her baby girl when in fact, her baby belonged to her and Clark Gable.
Keanu Reeves people insisted Keanu's Dad was a geologist, he was a long time drug dealer and had never finished high school.
[quote]Anyway, as for Catherine Zeta Jones and her age, I don't understand why some say she couldn't lie about it since she was a child star, etc. That means nothing.
But CZJ made her debut as a child-child (with apologies to Whoopi) starring in "Annie", not a teenager with leeway to fib about her age. By her teens she was already an established stage star.
most people in this thread don't understand the first thing about celebrity. Do you all think that the only people who become famous got that way because they're so nice and talented?
Never, ever, ever believe anything that comes out of celebrity's or mouth, and try and recognize when you are being fed PR swill. We lie/distort/embellish/create to create a sense of distance between THE PUBLIC CELEBRITY and the actual private person inside. It's the only to keep sane and not lose yourself.
C lister long nosed Hilarie Burton has tried to hide the existence of an older half sister for years. The half sister Natalie is the daughter of Hilarie's father.
Merle Oberon did have a fantastic collection of emeralds.
And she had to get lots of pearl necklaces first to get the emeralds R313.
Merle Oberon's lies seem ridiculous now. Just by watching her performances, anyone with eyes can tell she was South Asian. She might as well be telling us to pack our knives and go.
I know John Lequizamos' brother, and have met most of his family, including John. They've always claimed to be Colombian. The whole Puerto Rican thing is news to me, but not really a surprise. It seems that John causes a lot of eye rolling within his family.
A certain former talk show celeb (Jewish) with a hyphenated name gave an interview where it was said she had a hyphenated last name like many Spanish and Italian married women. It implied strongly and cleverly in the interview she was Italian. Ha! It came out later she is Jewish. This was in the 1990s.
My favorite is when masculine leading men claim to be straight BUT rumors have always swirled amongst gays. Now, with the 'net, people are able to communicate and a possible different side to these men emerges. No one in particular in mind. Just sayin'.
R317 here. To clarify,it was the author of the article who implied this, not the celeb.
Mark Spitz was always called a 'dentist' during his olympian days, but apparently he never finished dental school.
Wasn't Olympic gold medalist turned Tarzan star Johnny Weismuller actually born in Germany? But his publicists fudged his birthdate and birthplace to the US so he could seem "more American"?
R303 The nerve of that bitch Beyonce! At least [bold]I[/bold] used Wesson Oil. Just not for cooking.
Florence Henderson, playing Slip-n-Slide with Barry Williams
Even Walter Matthau, a character actor, lied about his age.
I posted this months ago, but as with Beyoncé R304 and her Feria commercials, the same goes for Tina Fey and her "crazy gorgeous" Garnier commercials. When has her hair ever been that long and thick?
That commercial doesn't look like any Tina Fey I had ever seen.
One of my favorite was David Geffen, "I've never even met Keanu Reeves!"
I don't know about Sophia Loren. In "Nine" she wears very little makeup and sports her own hair and she looked every bit her age. Still beautiful but looks like an older woman. I'd believe she never had plastic surgery.