If he comes out, it will be close to the time that his new daytime tv show debuts. But I don''t think he''s ever coming out, he''s out to the people who mean something to him I suppose.
When he was on "Millionaire" didn''t Ben sit in the audience and Meredith refer to him as Coop''s partner?
I never heard of anything like that ever happening R5.
Do we know for a fact his contract doesn''t allow it--or is that just a guess.
[quote]Do we know for a fact his contract doesn''t allow it--or is that just a guess.%0D\
Since when have facts ever been involved in an Anderson Cooper thread? It''s all "I think..." and "I''m sure..." and "There''s no doubt..."%0D\
He hasn''t been on Millionaire.%0D\
It was just assumed to be him because he''s the only glass closeted TV personality that gets outed all the time so people think he''s the only person on TV who''s gay and hasn''t come out.%0D\
It''ll be another one of Bragman''s nobodies whose coming out he overhypes so everyone gets their hopes up too high and is left pissed off.%0D
He may never come out as gay, but he HAS come out as a fan of Boston Market.
How many times over the years has the rumor about Anderson "finally" coming out been out there only to have nothing come of it? It hasn''t happened and it never will.
Every time I see him interviewed he utters the phrase, "I was the first one there". Can you imagine the chaos that erupts in his penthouse when a catastrophe happens somewhere on the planet? The screaming, the sweat?
Are you saying he gets horny from disasters R12? The screaming, the sweat?
The rumor of Anderson coming out is as old as the April Fools joke of Falcon Studios Mike Branson making a gay porn comeback.
Jesus Christ, he came out on Cinemax a long fucking time ago. He was a talking head on one of those interstitials and he talked about being ''family''. I wish someone had a copy of it somewhere.
For fuck''s sake, my fellow Queens, Anderson Cooper IS out. To family, friends and colleagues.\
Lester Holt doesn''t talk about his relationship with his wife, nor does Cooper discuss his with his partner.\
But I know there will never be an end to these tiresome threads.
If he came out publicly a long time ago, why has he been so evasive when asked about it in recent years? It''s not because of any contract stipulation. He''s not out.
[quote] Lester Holt doesn''t talk about his relationship with his wife, nor does Cooper discuss his with his partner.\
But what about all the other openly Gay & Lesbian on-air personalities who do?\
That is the issue.
He didn''t come out to the general public.\
In the media business there''s being out (to your close friends, family, manager, PR handlers, assistant, etc.) and there''s out-out (where you are out to the general public).
I suppose we can assume that Anderson does not want to be out to the general public but only his friends/family and colleagues only. Here''s what Harvey Milk said:\
[quote]Gay brothers and sisters,... You must come out. Come out... to your parents... I know that it is hard and will hurt them but think about how they will hurt you in the voting booth! Come out to your relatives... come out to your friends... if indeed they are your friends. Come out to your neighbors... to your fellow workers... to the people who work where you eat and shop... come out only to the people you know, and who know you. Not to anyone else.\
Maybe AC lives his life this way.
AC apparently thinks there''s something to the May 21st Doomsday prophecy and wants to come clean before he and Ben are just flotsam and jetsam swallowed up by a tectonic plate shift.
[quote] That''s the issue.%0D\
No, it isn''t. It''s one thing to ask LGBT public professionals to treat their sexuality and personal life like straight public professionals do, but it''s unreasonable to demand they open up in ways straights professionals in their line of work wouldn''t.%0D\
There are smart reasons why public figures manage their image and personal information the way they do. They won''t find much sympathy if they send their career down the toilet veering from that, either. If a gay celebrity fucks up their career by oversharing they get blamed in their industry for unprofessional behavior and have a lot of the gay community mad at them for acting stupid and presenting a failure that will discourage others from coming out.
R18, what openly gay personalities are there in the news biz? Rachel Maddow & Thomas Roberts -- anyone else? And how much chatting about their partners do Maddow & Roberts do on the air?
Jeffrey Kofman of ABC News is very open and OUT!\
He is a real journalist, unlike AC who only plays one on TV
Not R18 but I''ve heard Maddow mention someone named Susan a few times on her show. I guess that''s her partner and sometimes she''ll just say "my partner". I''ve never heard Thomas Roberts say anything about being gay or having a partner, but he covers a lot of gay issues on MSNBC.\
Surely R22 would like to see Anderson emerge fully as a completely PUBLICLY out gay man? You couldn''t have an issue with that because it would be a good thing all around.
We''ve been through this a million times. There''s a difference between saying you''re gay and going into a laundry list of your lovers and sexual activities. People simply question his bizzare refusal to openly admit he''s gay at this stage of the game.%0D\
He can do what he wants, but it''s plainly obvious he has issues with this.%0D\
That Kofman guy is trying to do the AC tight shirt and gun show thing.
If Jeffrey Kofman of ABC News can be out and proud, and have no issues about it. Why not AC?\
I think AC has bought into his celebrity.
Rachel does talk about her partner on air, but that's her choice and she is in different circumstances. She's a commentator on a left wing network, not a news anchor on a network aspiring to neutrality. She's also been with the same woman for more than ten years. Her partner is a frau looking type and they and their old cat appear to live exactly the longterm hyper-dull traditional life that straight news anchors construct and present for themselves. There's been no rumors I've seen of her or ever having fidelity issues or significant relationship drama.%0D
Thomas Roberts has talked about his partner in interview, but not until he had left HLN and hadn't been able to find news work. Like Rachel he was hired in to MSNBC after they veered left and he'd already come out, and MSNBC wants to showcase their liberalism so I doubt it's a coincidence Thomas has talked about his orientation on MSNBC but never did doing the news before MSNBC. It probably would have helped him during the manhunt scandal if it wasn't known that he was in a LTR, and it would have been even worse if he had been public talking about how great, true, exclusive, etc his relationship with his bf when that hit the fan or if he had been more famous than he was.
AC wants to be a celebrity first, journalist second. By coming out he is afraid of what he will lose.\
That is the difference between AC and Jeffrey Kofman who is a journalist and couldn''t care less about ''celebrity''. Jeffrey just wants to do good work regardless, and has no fear about being out.\
That is the difference, AC fears he has more to lose as he is more obsessed about being a celebrity.
[quote]Jeffrey Kofman of ABC News is very open and OUT!%0D\
How do we know this? I didn''t go over his FB page all that thoroughly but I didn''t see a mention of his being gay.
r25 as r26 points out you can state you are gay without getting into your dating life. Straight major news anchors do not share their dating life normally because it would be a very bad idea for them professionally to do so. They say a few brief and very dull things about spouses and kids when they are established in a family, presenting viewers with a picture of traditional family bliss.%0D\
[quote] People simply question his bizzare refusal to openly admit he''s gay at this stage of the game.%0D\
No, they don''t. There is a whole lot of them who want access to his personal life on top of that.
[quote] How do we know this? I didn't see a mention of his being gay.
Don't you know how to google?
For a long time it seemed that ABC News correspondent Jeffrey Kofman was the only openly gay correspondent in America. In fact, he's answered the question about sexual orientation in press interviews since the late '80s when he was a young reporter with the CBC in Canada.
Kofman links his decision to be out with his mission as journalist. "I do believe that we spend a lot of our time asking people to be honest and straightforward with us. %E2%80%A6 While I don't think a reporter's public life should be the center of his or her work, I think at some point you can't dodge the reality of your life and pretend you're being honest."
In 2003, Kofman's honesty created something of a minor national incident in the U.S. After his World News Tonight report from Iraq on troop morale %E2%80%94 which included one soldier calling for the resignation of Donald Rumsfeld %E2%80%94 Matt Drudge briefly printed the headline, "ABC News Reporter Who Filed Troops Complaint Story %E2%80%94 Openly Gay Canadian," linked to an interview Kofman did with national gay magazine The Advocate. Drudge later claimed the story was slipped to him by an overeager White House staffer, presumably in a misguided attempt to discredit Kofman.
But Kofman can handle a tussle with the White House. His resume reads like a definition of machismo journalism. He has reported from Colombian jungles, done four tours in Iraq and covered the Afghan war from an aircraft carrier. In Haiti , Kofman was chased by mobs and threatened at gunpoint by guerillas, and was the first journalist to report from the scene of the 2004 overthrow of then-president Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
Kofman, who spent his last vacation trekking in the Andes with his partner, said his "outside the box" career aligns well with how he wants to live his life. But 25 years ago he wasn't sure he'd be in his dream job today as a world-traveling network correspondent. "I think that being gay, in my own mind, made me wonder whether it was possible," he said. But now, "When I look back on the decision I made about being open, I'm very happy. I don't have to make up stories; I can be honest. And that's the way I want to live my life. That's the way I want to do my work."
Gee, let''s attack Maddow''s partner for her looks and for how they live, instead of giving her some much deserved credit for being out. And at least she''s proud of her relationship and has not qualms about talking about Susan, and they were featured in a People article. \
Who needs straight people to put them down when there''s so many members of the tribe doing it.
At least straight newsmen acknowledge their families, and the big ones are seen at public events with their spouses. They don''t pretend like they don''t exist.
No one''s forcing him to talk about his relationship with Ben. He could come out publicly and end it at that. There wouldn''t be any difference in the amount of gossip that goes on about him and Ben on the blogs than there is now, in fact, it might be less if he just came out and be done with it.
After reading R33''s post, there''s clearly NO reason at all for Anderson to continue to be closeted publicly. It''s completely foolish. Kofman has the right idea and doesn''t appear to be suffering from saying he''s an out and proud gay man with a partner. AC must be ashamed in some way.
"There is a whole lot of them who want access to his personal life on top of that."%0D\
His life gets enough press as it is. Again, I state, saying you''re gay doesn''t mean you have to famewhore your private life out twenty four seven or tell the world about your sex life. %0D\
Furthermore, Maddow and Roberts are not the problem. Both of them got over their struggles and issues and now live out and proud lives. And might I add that neither of them came from wealth and had a lot more to gamble with in terms of their career and future income.%0D\
Don''t belittle or make light of their struggles to try and justify Cooper''s silence. That''s a pretty shitty message to put out there.
Five Openly Gay Network Correspondents On Why They Are Proud and OUT!
Manuel Gallegus of CBS News
"How hypocritical is it for a journalist to not want to talk"
Jeffrey Kofman of ABC News
"We spend a lot of our time asking people to be honest and straightforward with us. %E2%80%A6 While I don't think a reporter's public life should be the center of his or her work, I think at some point you can't dodge the reality of your life and pretend you're being honest."
Miguel Marquez of ABC News
"I'm in a business that's all about truth and honesty, and to some degree I'm responsible to be honest as well."
John Yang of NBC News
"I felt that I can't pass as not being Asian, so why should I pass as being straight?"
Jason Bellini of CBS News
"Skirting that issue, saying it's nobody's business, I think that's disingenuous. Because if people are interested in you outside of the parameters of your job itself, and you ignore [being gay], then you're ignoring an important part of yourself. And that's not honest."
[quote]Don''t you know how to google?%0D\
Why, yes, I do. Thank you very much. If I needed to google Jeffrey Koffman to find out he''s gay, why did you include a link to his FB page, which says nothing?
Some people on here...
[quote] His life gets enough press as it is. \
That is the price you pay for wanting to be a celebrity. He can''t have it both ways.
[quote] why did you include a link to his FB page, which says nothing?\
Because it is more visually appealing than his twitter page.
r34 it wasn't an attack on them. I was pointing out that their circumstances as a couple are different. If you just look at her partner (who I was saying looks like an average everyday respectable housewife type, which wasn't intended as an insult) and their life it as idyllic and traditional as you can get, and Rachel goes on about their old cat and no television and herself says they are very conventional and staid. They have the same life together that news anchors want to present to the public as their image and that gives career benefits for a news personality to display. %0D
You'll notice differences, like Rachel and Susan have been together for much longer than AC and his partner, Rachel isn't rumored to have left an on again off again open relationship to get with with Susan, Gawker hasn't posted a ton of photos of Susan shirtless bartending and grabbing a travestite's boob... %0D
The popular gossip websites are also all run by gay men who love salacious shit on Anderson but really don't give a fuck about lesbians.
AC must ignore commentaries like the ones @ R40. They only serve to make him look more ridiculous for staying in the closet.
He''s surrounded by a lot of other people at his network and in the industry who haven''t come out publicly, r45. He''s part of the norm.%0D\
He''s the only one who has been outed and obsessed about over and over for years so people on the outside lose perspective and think of him as the only not out gay in news or the only one who could take any responsibilities.
No one cares about the others in the industry or at his network not being out. They aren''t as high profile or as popular, not even Shep Smith. And since the focus is on Anderson at all times, he should do something about it and come out because that would make a difference. Who cares about Don Lemon or Sam Champion. It would be a big yawn if they came out.
It will be Matt Bomer at the AIDS Walk podium
Lester Holt is GAY as a Rainbow Goose
Trust me...I know!
It would be good if Bomer came out.
Guess it wasn''t AC.
Don Lemon coming out makes him look even more ridiculous.\
It shows CNN has no such contract clause (of course the Anderson apologists will say it''s his contract). We''ve been over this over and over - it would be illegal for CNN to do this for gay employees only, and this only confirms it.\
But the apologists will come up with some other stupid reason...
There were ANGRY people online who seemed to think Cooper was about to be "Forced" out because Maddow said, "Gay anchors have a responsibility to come out." \
LOL @ all the people who thought Maddow''s interview "outed" Anderson Cooper or anyone at all. \
1) She wasn''t outing anyone. She was stating a general philosophy.\
2) Surprise surprise. There is more than a couple gay male anchors in this world. \
Small minded people like to think in tokens. One Gay male and One gay female- that''s it. That''s all there possibly could be. Ha. Ha.
[quote]all the people who thought Maddow''s interview "outed" Anderson Cooper... %0D\
And there''s no doubt that Don Lemon wasn''t even thinking about Anderson Cooper in his interview:%0D\
[italic]Mr. Lemon said he knew that coming out this way would stir up a degree of comment about other television news personalities, and whether any would acknowledge being gay.%0D\
"I think it would be great if everybody could be out," he said.[/italic]%0D
You do realize that there are more the two or three gay anchors in the world? The idea that Anderson Cooper is the only one relevant to any "People should come out" comment is fucking ridiculous.
Well by all means, R54, Lemon should have stayed in the closet so no one would even discuss whether Anderson could be out.\
I''m sure the Benderson fans will be comforted by the idea that Anderson will cuddle up to Ben for comfort, and how Ben will understand, so Anderson will feel no force at all but will feel safe and cozy in his firehouse with the love of his life.
I clearly stated: "Lemon wasn''t even thinking about Anderson Cooper in his interview."%0D\
Did I say Lemon should have stayed in the closet, r56? Did I say his comment was only relevant to one person r55? Again, I clearly stated: "Lemon wasn''t even thinking about Anderson Cooper in his interview."%0D\
[quote] I clearly stated: "Lemon wasn''t even thinking about Anderson Cooper in his interview.\
r 54, we know what sarcasm is, darling.
Either that, or R54 is too dense to see the dissonance in his assessment of Lemon''s statements and the statements themselves that he chose to include.
r40 can you provide a link to those quotes? It would be great to tweet them all form one source.
What''s so difficult about Anderson coming out? There are really no excuses left for him. What''s he afraid of? Is he ashamed or something? Being out completely and publicly is more important than just being out in your private life. I applaud Don Lemon for being honest about himself. Anderson can''t seem to do it.
This is pure nonsense. What rock do you live under not to know by now, Anderson is gay! Anderson lives an openly gay life in NYC and elsewhere. He is more than out to family, friends, and work colleagues. He is out period. %0D\
He''s someone who feels his personal life is private. It isn''t a secret, it is personal.%0D\
If he were to announce his sexual orientation live on primetime, as if that was the most important thing about him, it would be ridiculous. %0D\
He''s living his life, as if it were the most normal thing in the world, and that''s exactly as it should be. Don Lemon has other reasons to exploit his sexual orientation.%0D\
Anderson is a serious, credible journalist regardless of the fact that some people like to drag him down about his professional ability and actually use his sexual orientation to do it.
No R64, Anderson''s not out. Rachel Maddow, Rickey Martin, Neil Patrick Harris, Ellen, Rosie, Wanda Sykes, Thomas Roberts and now Don Lemon are TRULY out. Anderson can''t admit to being gay publicly. Not out.
Why can''t you guys leave this obviously heterosexual journalist alone?
So now we are requiring public announcements. This is almost like forcing Jews to wear a Star of David during WW II. We''re judging people. %0D\
Even Ricky Martin has said repeatedly that it is a highly personal decision that takes years to arrive at. He said people shouldn''t be pressured or judged, yet we do it all the time as if it is our right to know these intimate aspects about someone.%0D\
Ricky Martin now spends more time talking about his sex life than his music.%0D\
Our sexuality is foundational to who we are, but we have other parts that are equally important. %0D\
To many people the general public, our sexuality obscures everything else about us. There''s a preoccupation with insisting on knowing who and how people fuck.
"Ricky Martin now spends more time talking about his sex life than his music."\
Link to details about his sex life, please.
You sound pathetic R67. People like Rachel Maddow and Thomas Roberts have publicly announced and have moved on with NO problems. The same thing would happen with Anderson and he could possibly help some people, especially teens who are struggling with their sexuality. Sorry, there is simply no excuse for him to remain in the closet.
[quote]This is almost like forcing Jews to wear a Star of David during WW II. We''re judging people. \
Only people like Anderson Cooper who lie to us to gain our support for wars and financial bailouts to mega-millionaires.
Oy, closet-Mary, at R67. The hysterics. The drama. It must be scary inside that closet.
Let's break it down for you.
NO ONE has required a statement. Anderson is out and about with Ben a lot, as we know -- but because he has TOLD the press that he is NOT out, the press can't report it for fear of being sued, even though gossip pages are finally fed up with it. All he has to do is tell the press he doesn't object to reporting that he attended a public event with a male date and doesn't have to give one word to the press.
As for the alleged preoccupation with Anderson's sex life - notwithstanding that you can't seem to tell the difference between sexual details and simply acknowledging he's gay:
(1) No one forced Anderson to pose for People Magazine as an "eligible bachelor" and talk about how single he is years ago, legitimizing interest in his dating life.
(2) No one forced him to go on Loveline years ago when this interest got started and talk about sexual techniques, or to make jokes about his cock size, and dating interracially. So when Anderson disagreed with Adam Carolla about people wanting to date outside of their race, and Adam Carolla asked if he had a girlfriend, Adam wasn't asking for a statement, it was called having a conversation.
(3) No one forced Anderson to do a piece about how brave it was for a college football player to come out. The story had already been covered by SI and the New York Times, from which Anderson mostly lifted the facts - well, that and having the kid to his house on Long Island.
GLAAD didn't force him to make a statement either when they gave him the award for the story, but logically asked him if he wouldn't mind saying a few words at the awards about what it means to be an out gay journalist. He declined - "bravely" talking about the difficulties for gay journalists in private but he told GLAAD not to mention it in any press coverage.
(4) No one told Anderson to write a book about deeply personal details about his family life, even though it logically made people want to ask why he skipped over his personal life, and as he has over and over, on this one question alone, he doesn't believe in "keeping it honest."
Anderson has MANY ways to just be out without issuing a statement. All he has to do is STOP telling his colleagues it's not okay to say he's in a relationship with a man.
Anderson''s hosting some kind of big fashion awards in June and he''ll be in NOLA hosting a "women of reality tv" get together too. So gay. But he STILL needs to ANNOUNCE he''s gay.
R72 the only difference you''re parsing is the one between (1) gay people knowing it, and (2) the press being allowed to say it because Anderson has said he doesn''t want it discussed. \
In press speak, he''s saying he''s not out. That''s why gay people have to give the word -- even if it''s through a publicist or manager who gives the okay to report that they''re gay. The press doesn''t want to get sued. And as long as the press is on the side not to out people, they obey the code, especially for a colleague who being outed would be seen as a business tactic.
R73, I actually agree with you. I think he needs to come out publicly.
Just so [R67] understand what that means, he doesn''t have to issue a press-release; all he has to do is give some sign that it''s okay for the press to report that he''s gay and has to say nothing at all.\
Oh wait ... he has a talk show coming up, so maybe he can do a Vivienne Vyle and use it to launch the show.
[quote] Anderson is a serious, credible journalist\
In Broadcast circles he is considered an entertainer posing as a journalist.\
He can''t have it both ways. Writing a book about deeply personal details about his family life, giving countless interviews about himself, posing for magazine covers.\
And then at the same time saying his private life is private. If he truly felt that, and wanted to have his work speak for himself. Then why be a media whore doing all of these PR things to promote himself.\
All he has to do is issue a simple statement and then done with it. Get it out of the way and move freely with his life.\
Yes it is a personal choice, but his action suggest he feels shame about being gay.
I think there''s some shame on Anderson''s part too.
He was prepared to tweet his coming out when The Rapture started. Since The Rapture was a failure, he cancelled his coming out tweet.
"This is pure nonsense. What rock do you live under not to know by now, Anderson is gay! Anderson lives an openly gay life in NYC and elsewhere. He is more than out to family, friends, and work colleagues. He is out period."\
Sorry, you can''t have it both ways. He can''t be out, or "more than out" to famly, friends and work colleagues, and "out period" -- that is, until he comes out to the other 99.99 percent of the population.\
It''s very simple - he''s not an honest person. He''s lucky that Ben is willing to tolerate him.
R80 Money will allow you to tolerate a lot of things and Ben knows this.
Tuesday, October 11, 2011. Tune in to Anderson.
I was just listening to some old Loveline recordings and found the one with Anderson Cooper. It's a great episode, really funny and Dr. Drew isn't on it ("Dr. Bruce" was filling in for him) so that's a plus.
Personally I don't give a crap about AC but some of the things he says during the course of the 90 minute episode are revealing (in the last half-hour, for instance, he says he was more or less a compulsive/pathological liar when he was younger).
So if any of you are big AC fans and haven't heard the episode, here's a link:
That was an interesting Loveline. He was getting a little graphic at times, but he's still like that now. I wonder if he's gotten over lying a lot, it doesn't seem like something that's easy to change. He was about to say something about what it meant to be white in America at that time that I wish I could've heard but he got cut off by that idiot Carolla.