I did not see Season 1 of FX''s [italic]Justified[/italic], starring Timothy Olyphant of HBO''s [italic]Deadwood[/italic], and am aware it is really well-reviewed. (Margo Martindale''s supporting performance this season is, apparently, Emmy worthy.)%0D\
Is this series easy to catch up on, and to follow it one episode after the next? I''m asking because I''m considering buying Season 1 on Blu-ray.
I suggest picking up the first season.
I got hooked after seeing Margo martindale in a fab episode with her " apple pie " ...\
This is a really good show. Handsome lead actor. \
I figure it''s streamable from the FX website.\
(Then, again, I could be terribly wrong.)
Excellent show. It''s worth catching up on OP.
I love this show, the second season is even better than the first. I agree, get the first season and catch up!
Also forgot to add that the relationships between characters is somewhat complicated, OP, so watching the first season will give you the background needed to appreciate all the storylines going on this season.
This is a great show! My ex is from that part of Kentucky and everything seems very "true to life."%0D\
Also Timothy Olyphant is worth looking at (and watching him walk!)just by himself! woof!
Justified is one of the better shows on tv that no one knows about.\
I missed the first season and caught up through netflix. Just watch it from the beginning- particularly to understand Raylin''s relationship with his father and the introduction to Boyd Crowder & his family. Margo Martindale''s character is great, but she wasn''t in season 1 at all.
I know he has a protruding forehead and big teeth, but there''s something sexy about Walton Goggins -- I felt this way when watching him on The Shield, too. He''s good at playing villainous hicks.
I agree, brilliant show, and one of my favs. Margo is perfection, but the whole cast in terrific.
Last week''s episode was the best thing on TV this season. Yes, OP, start by watching the first season.
I hope this stays on TV. Elmore Leonard stories done just right.
Just won a Peabody Award.
Go for it, OP. Once you meet the general cast of characters, you will understand the show. There is usually a new villain family with an evil matriarch or patriarch every season. The Crowders was last season and Mags and her family are this season. Not every episode is about the evil family, though. There are sometimes general episodes about Raylan or a job he has that can be wrapped up in a single episode, often with some minor advancement in the plot line on the evil family. \
The show is about the best thing on TV these days. Most of these FX shows are about 13 episodes, so we are about halfway through this second season.
You don''t need to see Season 1 to follow things, but it would be better if you did.
Here''s a review of tonight''s episode from TVaholic.com...\
Justified (FX): New. Raylan and Winona are trying to figure out what they are going to do after recent events. Boyd decides on his new path. The Bennetts set the new plan for the family. Runs 61 minutes. Plays twice and again later. This is just another fantastic episode. Very dialogue driven up until the end and sets things up for the events of next week%E2%80%99s episode, which is even better than this week. The season continues to build episode after episode and I can%E2%80%99t wait to see how the season ends, which is just three episodes away after tonight.
I had no idea Margo was on this show! I love her. I''m gonna have to watch it now. I hope she wins an Emmy, she''s fabulous.
Can anyone give a clearer idea what the show''s about, without giving anything away?
R20, it''s about a deputy US marshall who grew up in rural Kentucky and is reassigned to that area after he fatally shoots a guy in the pilot episode (he maintained the shooting was "justified," hence the title).
There''s something about that uniquely Southern way of exchanging snippy banter cloaked in politeness that I just love, and this show has it in spades.
Bless your heart, r22! [italic]Justified[/italic] nails Southern humor. I am from rural Kentucky and am pleased at how the show captures our unique banter. And Timothy Olyphant is hot as hell! Who wouldn''t want to get with Raylan Givens?
... nice episode last night, the criminal lady is scary stuff.\
I worry for the mountain.
Damn, I was hoping Winona would get shot.
[quote]the criminal lady is scary stuff.\
That''s Margo Martindale. She''s wonderful in everything she does.
Margo and Raylan''s step-mom in the cafe...said something about the "privilege"...like she had a right to kill a Givens because Raylan had killed her son.\
Is this a real tradition in the hill folk?
Megs is one of the all-time best villans. Great show!
No, r28. I hope you''re not serious.
No offense meant, R24...just asking if it was a phrase anybody could comment on.
I wondered the same thing, R31. It sounded like it could just be courtly speech or perhaps there was a "rules-of-war" principle of of acceptable revenge.
I caught a few minutes of some movie on Comedy Central yesterday, with Jason Biggs and Amy Adams; Margo Martindale played his mother in a small comic role. I''d never seen her in anything else before, and she was utterly unlike her character on Justified. Now I really appreciate how good her performance is.
I''m watching season one...really enjoying it.
If you want to see another great Margo Martindale performance, check out the movie, "Paris Je T''aime." It''s an anthology film and in one short segment, Margo plays a clueless American tourist in Paris. She is absolutely sublime %E2%80%93 funny and sad and very moving.
Could the person(s) who saw Olyphant''s full frontal on stage in the Monogamist please give a detailed description of his genatalia?\
Thanks in advance.
No problem, r31. I have no explanation. It''s not a custom in my neck of the woods.
Bump - this show has just gotten better and better with each passing week. I''m so looking forward to the season finale on Wednesday. You know there''s going to be a Givens-Bennett-Crowder THROWDOWN.
Ava''s loaded rifle, nestled between Boyd''s buttcheeks
I agree with R38, \
this is one of the best shows on TV right now.
Can I get you a glass of my Apple Pie?
Good finale overall, but I don''t think it was true to character that a seasoned outlaw like Mags would have confessed when she didn''t have to. Plus, she had the perfect fall guy in Coover, as dead men tell no tales.
Great show, everybody''s good except Raylan''s dad, who seems to have wandered in from On Golden Pond. Hope they dump the character or recast him. Also, Natalie Zea needs to eat some food.
The actress who plays Mags deserves an Emmy for her work this season.%0D\
She''s been outstanding.
[quote]The actress who plays Mags deserves an Emmy for her work this season.\
So does her son Dickie.
The ghost of Helen Givens
For some reason I found Doyle to be insanely hot.
[quote]...but I don''t think it was true to character that a seasoned outlaw like Mags would have confessed when she didn''t have to.\
Ah, but that''s the beauty and depth of Mags character. She was ultimately overwhelmed by her emotions even though she knew better. The way Martindale played her, you could see her fighting it - she lied the first time but finally just couldn''t, even though she knew she''d be killed for it. Great scene - great show.
When she lost Doyle that was it, she said she was doing all this for him and his family...plus the shock of the little girl wanting to kill her.\
Mags had some sort of twisted sense of the girl being her younger, better self.\
Great finale. \
Love Raylan getting shot and Art coming to save him.\
I think Raylan''s Dad is written perfectly as a manipulative sociopath...the guy playing him has the looks and the charm.
I hate Winona. I hate she is pregnant even more.
Jeez, you guys are making me feel better about the finale than I felt watching it. It just seemed like a letdown to me, although I recognize that it left several issues hanging.
I loved the Mags character, although in that first episode she was really scary. I agree that the loss of Doyle and finally seeing what she'd really done to Loretta made her confess at the end, but she was going out her way. Of course, the show made it seem for a bit like she was going to poison Raylan. I agree that the actress deserves an Emmy for that performance.
Raylan's dad is a nasty piece of work, but I hope they keep him. I was sorry the writers decided to sacrifice Helen. I still think there were still stories to be written of her dealing with Raylan's dad.
They'd better keep Walter Goggins on the show as Boyd, though. He is excellent, every time he's on the screen. I was reading about him and he travels all the time. He is also a strong liberal and has worked for political causes. His wife committed suicide years ago and he's not been connected seriously with anyone ever since her death. His character in the short story died, but the reaction to him was so strong on screen that they kept the character.
Boyd stole the show - he''s not going anywhere.
[quote]His wife committed suicide years ago and he''s not been connected seriously with anyone ever since her death.\
Goggins is involved with director Nadia Conners. There were also a lot of rumors about Goggins and Kate Bosworth, but there are always rumors about Bosworth and anyone with a penis. Probably only 60-70% of the rumors are true... don''t know about Goggins.
Bump - the 3rd season of Justified debuts Tuesday night on fx.
I'm sad that Margo won't be on this season, but based on some early reviews I've seen, they haven't missed a beat.
Wow, Ava is a little Mags in the making.
Hey R53, you lookin' for a taste of my fryin' pan here?
*bump* for this week's episode. Mykelti Williams' character is going to be crazy good!
Is no one watching this season?
I'm watching! I think this season has been equally as good as last season, although I miss Mags & family. It was great to see Loretta last week, although I think it was a one shot deal. Olyphant, Goggins, and Davies are still doing Emmy-caliber work, and I would throw Nick Searcy (Art) and Joelle Carter (Ava) in there too.
The writing has stayed tight. One of the best shows on TV.
Love Dickie. that prison nurse is one scary guy.
I agree about the prison nurse--sad to see him go. The showdown between Quarles and Boyd was amazing and Limehouse is keeping tabs on everyone. Things are going to get crazy.
The prison nurse looks like Willam Belli on RuPaul's Drag Race.
I didn't understand the last scene this week. Raylan read a note... was it from Winona?
I took too much joy in seeing Raylan punch William Mapother in the face...twice...in this week's episode.
R61 = Tom Cruise
This is still one of the best shows on TV right now.
The northern mob guy is scary and
I'll tell you what, I'm never going to visit Kentucky.
Margo Martindale originated the role of Truvvy in Steel Magnolias.
I think Elmore Leonard is still part of the show, even if just a consultant. He's an excellent writer and just having him review the scripts might keep the writing tight. The actors are amazing, although no villain was better than Margo as Mags Bennett. She scared the daylights out of me in that first episode last season.
And the actor who plays Dewey Crowe is great as well. The guy is a walking campaigner for the Darwin award.
And, MM DID win an Emmy for her performance in Justified.
Now, this season I'd like to see more of Carla Gugino, who was great in the cancelled-too-soon Elmore Leonard series Karen Sisco & is playing same character with different last name now.
So he beat up a male hustler - does that mean he likes the homo sex?
That's my guess, R67. It would explain why he had that guy gagged and tied to the bed a couple of weeks ago. I think Wynn Duffy might be on to him too.
I love all the people and plots in motion this year. The only downside is that you don't see as much of the regulars, like Art, Tim and Ava.
I'm surprised more people aren't watching this. Great show.
Love this show.
So many twists this week! I'm having trouble keeping tabs on Limehouse and who, if anyone, he is backing. Quarles listening to religious radio and chewing Oxy was frightening. Things are going to get nasty, soon.
I think they are moving the characters into position for some crazy stuff in the second half of this season.
Lots of bad guys!
Ava, Ava, Ava...there's no turning back now.
I love every scene between Boyd Crowder and Raylan Givens. Of course, last night's shooting by Ava could emphasize an already strange triangle.
Ava wants to run prostitutes now?
Yes, sounds like Ava will be the local madam. I'm not sure I like that development, while the Ava & Boyd pairing has been entertaining, I've been hoping she would rub off on him more than vice versa.
So the nut job gets naked and walks into the bathroom to do who knows what to the kid he has tied to the toilet, but he would not do a love scene with a woman because it went against his religious morality? Hmmmm interesting.
Quarrles is so fucking crazy. I can't wait to see him go out in a spectacular fashion.
My thought exactly, R76.
R76...This is a story about the actor?
Oh, this story about Neal McDonough...from Wiki
McDonough was set to star in the ABC dramedy Scoundrels[ but was fired for refusing to do sex scenes for the show. He credits his family and his Catholic faith for his decision.
McDonough portrays the role of "Jesus" in "The Truth & Life Dramatized audio New Testament Bible," a 22-hour, celebrity-voiced, fully dramatized audio New Testament which uses the Catholic edition of the RSV.
You are right, that's Icky...
any pics of the nude guy walking into the br?
It's Marshall Allman who plays the guy tied to the toilet with the ball gag in his mouth - the guy True Blood who was SAMs brother
He's lost a lot of muscle definition since True Blood.
You would lose muscle definition too if you were chained to the toilet for two weeks.
I like Neal McDonough and was surprised that he would be in such a role. He's creepy great in it, though.
I also love Ava and think the show does so much better when it isn't spending time on Winona.
I think the chance to get an Emmy has got Neal willing to drop trou.
Also I'm worried that Raylan's new bartender girlfriend is not long for this world.
Sex scenes typically involve real foreplay. That was likely the objection. In the scene where he is naked, he walks into the bathroom and the scene is shot from behind so you see the guy chained to a toilet and gagged. Then the door shuts. You never see him touch anyone. I suspect the scene was written that way to overcome any objections he had.
Loved the way the neighbor describes him in the show--looks like he'd shit blond.
This last episode was great!
So Loretta has the money someplace, or knows where it is really hidden, and Limehouse also knows and is protecting it because that's the deal he had with Mags, right? And the deal included not giving it to Dickie? At least that's what I got out of it.
The writers must love coming up with funny descriptions for McDonough. Duffy said he had a "big baby head" this episode, too.
Limehouse has the money...he wasn't trying to steal it...but he was holding it for Loretta, which was Mags wishes.
She now has access to it.
So Limehouse is surprisingly a kind of good guy.
Great season three finale tonight. I liked how after the season of chess moves between all the characters ended up with Raylan realizing his father thinks of Boyd as more of a son than him. Some other random thoughts:
I love how Limehouse ended up being less of a villain, and more of a guy who wants to be left alone.
I'm a little disappointed that Ava has gotten so dark.
I'd hope if Winona sticks around a bit (she's supposed to do 3 episodes in Season 4), they keep her home life with Raylan the focus of that character
Loved how Wynn Duffy, who is a cold-blooded killer, was so outraged that Raylan wasn't playing fair. JESUS CHRIST!
Did not see that business with Arlo coming, but it made perfect sense.
I always thought Cousin Johnny had something up his sleeve.
I knew the season was going to end with Winona. She's the only one Raylan feels he can be open with.
Ava chose her road and this is where it's leading.
I jumped at that Limehouse ending.
and Raylan holding the gun away from Quarles...
I didn't understand why Limehouse was banishing Errol. I agree with R92 about Ava going to the dark side. Although Raylan has nothing but disgust for Arlo, it was still sad to see how he was hurt by his affection for Boyd (at the potential cost of Raylan's life).
Errol was the one that dragged Limehouse in the middle of the Boyd and Quarles stuff. (I'm clanking on how he did that - did he do something at one of the oxy clinics?) but I clearly remember Limehouse telling Errol he had to "fix it". So he was basically sending Errol off because (Limehouse thought) he was out of the middle of their crap.
I'm wondering if Errol died? It looked like he was shot by Quarles before he was disarmed.
Yes, it was the oxy trailer thing at the beginning of the season.
Yeah, it looked as if Errol was dead on the floor, face-down.
Just watched it again. So much stuff happens it's hard to take it all in with just one viewing.
Nice rear-view naked shot near the beginning. I wonder if it was a body double, though. The upper back and shoulders looked considerably broader than the lanky Olyphant.
It was great last night. Loved the bear getting shot. Lol.
I loved the scene with Raylan, Art, and Gutterson in the car...and then being called "perverts". This show is so good!
From the previews:
Hot Thug: Maybe next time I'm gonna put a little limp in that Gary Cooper walk o' yours.
Raylan: Well, now, that sounds a little bit like a date!
The hillbilly family was pretty funny. The kid giving Raylan the double barrel bird was hysterical.
Loved Art's line about getting a 'marshal stiffy' as the guys gear up to go after Waldo Truth. And of course there's the return of my favorite psychopath, Wynn Duffy.
Lots of funny stiffy talk in this week's episode.
Rachel and Raylan have such a great dynamic. I love that she gave him a beanbag gun--I totally missed that.
Did I detect a little lesbian subtext between Rachel and the lady fighter? That would be an interesting angle to pursue, having just ended an unsuccessful marriage and all. The other marshal on their team, the cute young guy, has always seemed very gay to me, also.
[quote] Did I detect a little lesbian subtext between Rachel and the lady fighter?
I picked up on that, too. But the lady fighter also offered to wrestle Raylan. Thoughts of a threesome...
I loved on the look on Raylan's face when he opened the van and saw all the chickens.
When Raylan went to visit the hill people was anyone thinking The Hills Have Eyes?
Last night's episode was the best so far this season. I think they've finally kicked the season's main story line into over drive. Nice also to see Rachel and Tim getting more time this season.
It seems implausible that so many twisted people could live in that small area...but I am hanging on for the crazy ride. I love this show so much!
I couldn't watch the blowtorch scene. Had to close my eyes.
Is the Sheriff as good as dead? Or is he the mystery man?
Loved this last episode, I don't know what's going to happen to the sheriff....
Shelby better watch his back. If Boyd thinks he's poking around in Ellen Mae's disappearance he'll likely go after him. But I'm sure that sooner or later it's going to come out that Colton screwed up and that she's still alive.
Does anyone think that Tim and Colton are going to shoot it out at some point?
Oh yes, Colton and Tim are heading toward some thing, but what I love about this show is that it's unpredictable.
I'm pissed because I missed the episode the other night and now can't find a place to watch it free online. FX never shows anything free online except new series.
Ah, those crazy romantic kids, Boyd and Ava. I never would have guessed that Boyd craved respectability.
R117 I know what you mean about unpredictable. That face-off between Raylan and Quarles in last season's finale did not end the way that I thought it would.
R118 Check your cable service. You might be able to catch up on VOD. I think Comcast has Justified on demand, but I don't know about any others.
R118, i think FX will repeat the episode throughout the course of the week.
Thanks, R120. I did check and they are done showing this episode. I will check with my cable company, but it is a small one and they are close to worthless.
Wow, so much happened in this week's episode. Lots of dead bodies, mischief and we're getting close to learning who is Drew Thompson. I think it's Sheriff Shelby.
I got the impression from all the disses against Neil McDonough during the series three were the result of the writers not liking him very much.
I love Gutterson and can't wait until he has his real final showdown with that bloated junkie who killed his friend. Patton Oswalt and his machine gun was hilarious. This show is SO good!
What's really going on with Johnny? Seems like one minute he's out to usurp Boyd and extract his revenge, and then the next minute he's showing some kind of loyalty towards their group. Maybe his heart and his head are in conflict and he's not even sure what he should ultimately do. Or is he just pretending to be a double-crosser in front of Wynn to get inside dirt?
[quote] What's really going on with Johnny? Seems like one minute he's out to usurp Boyd and extract his revenge, and then the next minute he's showing some kind of loyalty towards their group.
Boyd's recent deal with the Detroit mob put him in a strong (but highly precarious) position vis-à-vis Wynn. Johnny may not have Wynn's complete backing now to replace Boyd. Johnny also isn't that smart. He found out that Ellen May was still alive but failed to do anything significant with that information.
Timothy Olyphant has always been good as Raylan, but he's been especially great the last two episodes in the way he's handled Arlo's dying/death. His sudden and brutal beat down of Hunter after pulling him out of the way of the truck felt like a release of the emotion he'd kept pent up inside since Arlo's death.
Does anyone think that Tim might be gay?
Are they creating a spinoff called "Ancient"?
Tammy Wynette's ghost
I started watching this season, but I've picked up most of the back story. I just totally forgot why they're looking for this Drew guy so hard. I know they found a bag inside the wall, it was discovered that the person connected with this bag was this Drew character.
There is a network of people (Boyd, those two teenagers, guy who got his foot cut off, Arlo, the dirty cop from last week, Wynn Duffy) who are involved in this Drew situation. Can someone remind me why. Thanks.
Drew Thompson witnessed mob leader Theo Tonin shot and kill an FBI agent, then stole millions in coke from Tonin. He faked his death to stay alive.
Tonin wants him dead b/c he's a witness to his crime.
Duffy wants to find him because Tonin ordered him to.
Boyd wants to find him because he has a deal to take over some of the local drug running.
The Marshall's want to find him because it's their job. Solving a 30-year-old mystery will look good. Especially Art who wants to retire.
And since Raylan is about to be a father, for the first time in his life he's giving thought to career advancement. Catching Drew Thompson could mean a promotion to Art's job when he retires.
Lots of typos in my message:
Shot = shoot
Marshall's = marshalls (auto correct)
And Boyd's deal to run drugs was with Duffy, assuming he finds Drew.
[quote]Tonin wants him dead b/c he's a witness to his crime.
Didn't Drew/Shelby also happen to shoot Tonin in the eye? I thought this was the driving force behind his need to find him.
[quote]And since Raylan is about to be a father, for the first time in his life he's giving thought to career advancement. Catching Drew Thompson could mean a promotion to Art's job when he retires.
NOOOOO!!!! That would be the death of the show. The whole Raylan mystique is about him being a bit of a borderline outlaw/rule-breaker himself. Putting him behind a desk in a bureaucratic position would be tantamount to castration-lobotomy for the character.
Don't worry, R133. The show's producers know that. It's never gonna happen.
Based on the tweets from people who've seen the Justified screeners, it sounds like the show is continuing to accelerate its pace and intensity in the remaining episodes. Hang onto your cowboy hats!
What happened to the woman who was carrying Raylan's baby? I started wathing the beginning of this season, so I guess this relationship started last season. When this season started, they showed him kissing some chick, next thing, she's gone. They never show her again.
There was a scene of him coming home and finding money gone out of a drawer and he looked pissed. Was she a just grifter that ripped him off and ran? Was she really pregnant? I don't need the whole back story, just a quick explanation.
Another question - is Winn Duffy gay? In last night's episode, I noticed he has that hunky bodyguard. Why is Winn always in that RV? Isn't he a rich crime boss or something.
Wynn Duffy is a bit of an enigma. It's hard to tell what really motivates him other than money.
I thought the RV was because he likes to be mobile, it's harder for the feds to track him, and he likes traveling comfortably.
Last night was the first time that I honestly wondered about Duffy's sexuality, since the bodyguard's robe was kind of hanging off of him. It was hard to gauge his reaction to Quarles penchant for roughing up rent boys other than as something he could hold over the guy.
I wondered that after last night's episode, too, R138.
R136, the woman carrying Raylan's baby is his ex-wife. She married a real estate guy, who, IIRC, died tragically and got back with Raylan. It didn't work out, though, because he won't take a desk job. The woman from part of last season and this season that he hooked up with ran a bar and he lived over it. She was pulling scams with her husband who went around performing in illegal fights. She ripped off Raylan and left with her husband.
Thanks, R138 and R139. Guess I wasn't giving the show my full attention. I watched the eps with the woman running scams with her fighter husband. I guess I just zoned out at some point and thought the scammer and the pregnant female were one person.
I thought it was a little weird that one minute he was with her at an OB/GYN office and the next her "husband" was back and she was stealing Raylan's money.
I did a double-take at the Wynn's bodyguard situation, too! I suppose he could have been in a robe because he has to sleep in the RV in order to provide 24-hour protection. What was really gay, though, was Wynn's cute little sleep mask. Not to mention that bad botox, brow-lift or whatever the hell it is that has him looking perpetually frightened.
Also add the way Wynn assumed Mike would flee to Canada with him.
Here's what show runner Graham Yost said to EW about the scene where Mike woke up Wynn.
[quote] EW: Johnny (David Meunier) called a sleeping Wynn to tell him that Shelby is Drew, and Mike brought Wynn the phone wearing his robe. Little things like that always get me.
[quote] Graham Yost: Those are the little things that we honestly get a huge kick out of in the room. When Andron and VJ came up with that, we all just laughed. We just thought it was funny. And then let’s give Duffy a sleep mask. (Laughs) I think when they shot the first take of it, Mike was not wearing the robe, he was just shirtless. It was like, “Okay, we kinda think that Duffy is gay, but we don’t know. There’s nothing wrong with it, but let’s just make it more mysterious.” And him in a robe is funnier. We never lose sight of the fact that we want to be a funny show.
OK, what just happened with Colt? Why did he kill the sniper guy? Was it because he feels some kinship towards Tim and didn't want to see him gunned down, or could it have been the plan all along for Boyd's crew to pick off Tonin's people one by one while they were working together?
I don't know, but that phone call between Colt and Tim got me all hot.
I thought it was just Colt taking the opportunity to improve the odds by killing Mort. Not sure if it was actually planned with Boyd. For the first time we're seeing what Boyd saw in him in Iraq and why he made him part of his crew. This will make it so much better when Tim does kill him
"Dick, dick, dick...." The dialogue in that scene felt like something Quentin Tarantino might have written.
Constable Bob is indeed on touch son of a bitch. Drewbacca! Drusitania! BTW any one realize"Love Train" was playing while Yolo was beating up Constable Bob?
I actually thought Oswalt's character was going to say, "And now you've ruined this song for me."
Love Train playing in the background was strange, but it sort of fit. And Constable Bob really is a one touch SOB.
Excellent episode last night. Best of season 4 (so far).
[quote]This will make it so much better when Tim does kill him
What makes you so sure it won't be the other way around? Seriously, other than Raylan and maybe Boyd, I don't think there's any character on the show who couldn't be killed off. I like all the Marshalls, so I hope that isn't the case, but I don't see any guarantees.
I'm pretty sure Johnny is a goner.
So I guess playing "Love Train" was supposed to be giving the viewer a little subliminal hint about them using the coal train for the getaway vehicle?
I have a hunch that Drew Thompson is gonna pull a DB Cooper in the end. Which would be cool, because he has become rather likable, after all, and it would fit right in with Art's little speech about just how "bad-ass" he really is. He's got skills...
Almost 24 hours and no comments about the season finale? Is it wrong that I want to give Boyd a hug?
I wanted to give Boyd a hug, too. He's absolutely gutted about Ava. I wasn't really sure just why Ava sent Jimmy away and tried to roll Delroy's body into the slurry pond on her own. It was inevitable she would get caught as soon as she went solo.
Still, I thought the Boyd and Ava saga was a lot more heartbreaking and involving than Raylan's wrap-up. I felt strangely underwhelmed by the Detroit thugs threatening Winona, and then seeing the predictable Raylan reaction was just a non-event.
But at least Wynn Duffy came back to save the day!
I'll give you guys Boyd. I'll hug Raylan. Then I'll top him and we'll snuggle all night.
I was certain that Winona was going to die, especially since Natalie Zea is on a new show. I loved the scene when they killed the three Detroit thugs, and I didn't see the limo scene ending that way at all.
But I agree: poor Boyd.
...And I'm hugging Ava in prison.
That last scene...I wanted to give Raylan a big hug as he sat in his father's backyard and stared at Arlo's grave as the show closed with You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive.
I've really worked at not getting involved with this show because I know I'll fall in love with it (and with Tim again.) Dang, how does this man manage to get better looking as he gets older!? And why straight? It's just so wrong.
R156 Give into it. You're denying yourself one hell of a great show.
Now that Wynn Duffy runs everything east of the Mississippi for the Detroit mob, will he move out of the RV and into a house? And will Mike move into that house with him?
I've been re-watching season one on DVD. I'd forgotten this line from Art to a shirtless Raylan standing in the doorway of his motel room.
Art: Are you cold standing out here?
Art: Because I can’t keep from staring at your nipples.
Art has some of the best lines. "Nobody here smokes? This is Kentucky, not Sausalito! What's the matter with you people?"
He's so good I've put aside my intense hatred for him as Frank Bennett from "Fried Green Tomatoes."
Dear R157. Zowie. I had no idea. I just ordered Season 1 on Amazon and will catch up shortly. R156.
Bump - Season 5 starts next week, and I'm so looking forward to it. Here's to seeing some shirtless Raylan, Ava scoring some ladies behind bars, and the return of Dewey Crowe!
I did a marathon of the first 4 seasons after Breaking Bad ended. Great show, doesn't take itself too seriously like some others I can think of. Dewey's one of my favorite characters - I was surprised to learn that the actor that plays him is Australian.
I hope Dickie Bennett comes back to the show at some point, too.
Tim Gutterson. Have the writers given him a sexuality yet?
I assume he's straight but who knows.
I hate Dewey Crowe.
Love Dewey and am looking forward to seeing more of him this season.
Season 3 was the best show on TV.
Season four was good but not exceptional Justified standards.
Let's see if they get back to exceptional in Season 5.
R165, was season 3 the one with Mags Bennett? If so, I agree.
I started watching 2 seasons ago, so I'm lost on some characters. Who was the teen girl who called Raylan, hoping he'd bail her out of jail?
Boyd Crowder's jailbird girlfriend is looking tore up. The actress seems to have aged a lot since last season.
The teen girl was Loretta. Her father was a weed-dealer for Mags Bennett. Mags killed him, then took in Loretta herself. Much of season 2 was Raylan trying to find Loretta's father because no one knew he was dead.
I suspect they're not really using make-up on Joelle Carter/Ava (or making her up to look rough) since she's supposed to be having a rough go of it behind bars. From the red carpet pics I saw of the Justified premiere, Joelle looked great.
I didn't know this show was starting so soon. I missed the 1st 2 episodes.
When I watch this show anymore, I think of it as Mitch McConnell's voter base.
God, Boyd Crowder is a badass. He's like a ninja - showing up in people's bedrooms in the middle of the night and blowing them away. Michael Rappaport is tiresome, trying to act like a Louisiana boy.
I'm suddenly finding Walton Goggins very sexy. Check out his narrow-hipped walk in his tight black jeans.
Michael Rappaport is trying too hard, and failing, with his accent. I love all the crazy Crowes, though.
A little disappointed in this season. It's still a good show, and I'm not dropping it, but it seems a little more scattered this year, the story isn't as tight as other seasons.
And a little too much killing. Not that I'm saying there shouldn't be violence, but every week there's a few more people killed with no repercussions for the murderers.
It's almost like Justified has caught the "Sons of Anarchy" disease in which there's more violence, worse language and inconsistent story lines without any real pay off. Is that just what happens when you run out of ideas?
I agree with R174 - I was shocked at the amount of bloodshed and murder in this season. I started watching 2 seasons ago and I don't remember so many people being blown away back then. Boyd has been on a killing spree in the last couple episodes. I saw the season when Ava killed the guy (the reason she's in jail now); I didn't see that coming. It was eye opening to see that even she was ready to kill at a moment's notice.
I also have a hard time with Raylan not putting Boyd in jail. Raylan is smart - he must know that Boyd is a drug running killing machine and hasn't been able to find the proof to put him behind bars> Did I miss something in earlier seasons? Weren't they childhood friends or military buddies or something; did Boyd save Raylan's life so he gave him some kind of immunity?
One of the best shows on TV IMO, and it jst keeps getting better. Yes, it's very violent, because it deals with very violent characters & subject matter.
Timothy Olyphant is a god, by the way. And a very under-appreciated actor.
Walton Goggins has so much swagger! He's like a white Samuel L. Jackson (his character on Justified reminds me of Jules Winfield from Pulp Fiction, too). It's a shame that this show doesn't get the props and awards that it richly deserves. The writing and acting is up there with Breaking Bad, IMO.
Oh, and the actor who plays Art is utterly brilliant. He usually steals the scene any time he's on screen.
R162, no they haven't said much about Gutterson's sexuality (or anything else for that matter); at the end of last season, they established him as this very troubled, very conflicted guy but then never touched it again this season. I get it that Walt & Tim are the "stars" but I think they are missing out by not developing the secondary characters. Tim could turn out to be a bigger headcase than Raylan
That's funny R177 - I was just thinking the same thing about WG. He sounds like he's imitating a black man when he's composing his flowery sentences. I loove how he said "get me my GOTT DAMNED money!" in the last episode.
I also carefully examined his outfit last week - he dresses like a 1890's goth cowboy. He wears the tight black jacket over a black vest with a chain across, like he has a pocket watch. He has his collars buttoned up to the neck with a skinny black tie. Then the jeans and boots. Styling! Watch his walk - he looks pigeon toed. His walk reminds me of young William Peterson in "To Live and Die in LA". If you've seen that movie you will totally remember WP's stride.
Someone remind me - why did Art punch Raylan last week? I'm blank.
Because at the end of the last episode, Raylan confessed that he shot the gangster in the back of the car. We didn't see him admit it; the screen faded to black as he said something like "X didn't shoot X; and I should know...".
I love Justified, but I don't always remember the names of the non-regular characters.
The sooner that Michael Rappaport is killed off, the better. He is horrible in this; he ends every other sentence with the word "man", like that makes him sound edgy or badass. He just sounds like he's trying too hard.
Question from a recent viewer: I missed the season when this guy Dickie Bennett was the bad guy -- what was his story line?
It's obvious he was in cahoots with Dewey Crowe, but what else happened (Raylan shot him)?
Really like the show & Tim Olyphant, but this season does come across as "looser" than previous ones. Too many storylines I think. I'm hating the one with Ava in jail...totally unnecessary & unrewarding IMO.
They've also pretty much eliminated Raylan's co-workers. I don't think I've seen any of them on-screen, other than his boss, all season.
Alicia Witt is terrific in her role.
And IMO, there's not too much crime, violence & murder. This is a show about crime, violence & murder.
My favorite scenes in this latest episode involved Dickie Bennett and/or Dewey Crowe and of course that showdown between Raylan and Danny Crowe. I've been hoping that Raylan would shoot Danny, but the way Danny actually died was even better -- very Elmore Leonardesque.
Come on, Ava is able to kill that woman so easily? She can just saunter into this chapel, late at night, with no guards around. Make it a little more believable.
This show is nothing but people double crossing and back stabbing other people. Boyd got scammed by the Crowes, that old biker guy got scammed by those black guys, Boyd scammed the Canadians for the drugs, the Mexicans took back Boyds stuff, Dewey took Boyd's stuff, Danny shot various people just because, the Crowe sister backstabbed Raylan's social worker GF. Yeesh - move away from there.
I'm also turned off on Justified by Nick Searcy's recent twitter rant; it's not just that's he's right wing - I expected that. He just sounds like such a flaming asshole.
Why Mary Steenburgen on this show; her character was supposed to be menacing to Boyd, but it just didn't work with her baby voice. She's another one who has messed up her face; she looks like a cross between Marlo Thomas, Goldie Hawn and Chef.
Searcy on the show is a fatass himself. He's got that gut. Very unattractive. I liked his character OK, but he's just gross.
Mary Steenburgen was great. I hope we see a lot more of her. I think she could make a great big bad.
I just noticed my typo -- that should be Cher.
And here I was thinking what a fine job she did strapping down those big, brown, salty balls.
Kind of a meh season finale but at least they got rid of that very annoying Michael Rapaport.
There will be trouble in the Crowder household next season -- full of secrets and lies!
It was an okay season, but disappointing compared to prior seasons. I do think they brought it around nicely at the very end of the finale to set up the last season.
Does anyone else think that Raylan might not get out of Harlan alive?
I think they won't kill him in the last season. They've been dangling that damn baby of his in our faces for 2 seasons. I think they're gonna let Raylan have a happy ending as a daddy.
Boyd.... he's dead meat.
I'm split 50/50 on Raylan getting out alive. Olyphant has a pretty dark sense of humor as you can see from this show, and wouldn't be surprised if they ended on a down note.
The season premier was so good, however, I hate what happened to Dewey; he was one of my favorite characters on the show.
Judging by the phenomenal season premier and the previews of the upcoming episodes, this may turn out to be the best season since season 2.
I am glad Dewey is dead. I might tune back in.
The only one of the classic sidekick bad guys still alive is Dickie Bennett, I guess. Johnny, Dewey, the other Bennetts, all of the Florida Crowes (except Wendy) -- all dead.