What is the deal with this woman? She has a reality show slated for OWN network. Will it chronicle her making a comebacka album? It''s been EIGHT YEARS since her last - that is forever in the music industry for the woman with the highest selling album ever. %0D\
Despite all her self inflicted drama, she is easier to take than these lame country acts today. %0D\
Does Mutt refuse to produce her any longer??
Well, they''re divorced and as I recall it wasn''t a very friendly split so I doubt they have any desire to work together. Still, she could have hooked up with another strong producer and continued recording. The lack of recording without Mutt only cements the idea that all her success was due to him.
This is some white trash shit:\
Twain married music producer Robert John "Mutt" Lange on December 28, 1993, and they have a son, Eja D''Angelo (pronounced "Asia") who was born on August 12, 2001. On May 15, 2008, a spokesperson for Mercury Nashville announced that Twain and Lange were separating after Lange had an affair with Twain''s best friend, Marie-Anne Thiebaud. Their divorce was finalized on June 9, 2010. On December 20, 2010, Twain''s manager confirmed that Twain was engaged to Swiss business executive Frederic Thiebaud, the ex-husband of Marie-Anne Thiebaud. They married on January 1, 2011 in Rinc%C3%B3n, Puerto Rico.
My guess is, she can''t come up with shit due to her writing/producing partner, divorcing her.\
Her autobiography comes out next month.\
She ain''t getting any younger.
Shania has repeatedly tried to get another album going, but she can''t come up with any decent songs. \
Mutt Lang was the musical talent, Shania was just the sexy belly button on the CD cover.\
Having said this, in her defense, Taylor Swift did the same thing, but at least Shania Twain had some seriously good songs. Taylor Swift is pure musical dog vomit attached to a great ass.
"Despite all her self inflicted drama, she is easier to take than these lame country acts today."%0D\
ROFLMAO. She is the one responsible for all the lame country acts - they are just trying to copy her success. She''s a stupid bimbo who used her looks to get to the top, and thinks she''s a songwriter because she slaps her name on songs her ex-husband wrote. She can''t sing, either. Her songs are unbelievably cheesy - like Mariah Carey songs with a few steel quitars thrown in to make them "country" %0D\
"Having said this, in her defense, Taylor Swift did the same thing, but at least Shania Twain had some seriously good songs. Taylor Swift is pure musical dog vomit attached to a great ass."%0D\
Anyone who likes "artists" like Shania Twain has no right to look down on Taylor Swift. They both suck, but at least Taylor didn''t need a Svengali to write her songs.%0D\
Unless she finds another Mutt Lange to fuck, she will never record again. \
They both took a downright Milli Vanilli like gamble on things. \
Where is their son, though? Has anyone ever seen him? Was that just a fake?
On the plus side, she doesn''t have to look at that damn ugly MuTT anymore.\
Men don''t come much more repulsive than that.\
Hopefully, their child favors her.
"Mutt Lang was the musical talent, Shania was just the sexy belly button on the CD cover."%0D\
It was a commercial relationship that was greater, and more successful, than the sum of its parts.%0D\
Taylor Swift = Searching for closeted actors to "hook up" with to boost her career now. The sooner she moves to acting, the better for Country Music.
Don''t be an idiot r6.\
Good looking kid... so far.
Dis Mutt write "You''re the One"? That''s one of the most beautiful songs. Don''t really like any other songs by Shania, but can see how some find them catchy. \
I do believe Mutt wrote one foe the really good Britney slow songs - "Don''t Let Me Be the Last to Know".
The entire music industry is in a long creative void right now. All songs, in all genres suck eggs. \
The genre that will win out, will be the one which attracts the next genius songwriter(s), the next Lennon & McCartney or Prince.
Yes, r12, they co-wrote that as well as "The Best Thing About Being a Woman (Is the Prerogative to Have a Little Fun)".
[quote]The entire music industry is in a long creative void right now. All songs, in all genres suck eggs. \
Bullshit. I''ve rescued it on my own.
She was one of the guesses for the long-running (yes, most probably invented) CDAN blind item about the singer who didn''t actually sing on her best-selling albums. Something about a back up singer who had been receiving payments but then the payments stopped and she was about to go public.
I really missed her lovely sweet voice.
I believe she has actual talent as a songwriter - she certainly called out Nashville''s lack of creative song writing sessions on that Behind The Music about her life in 1998. She had an album planned - I Told You So - that was supposed to bow in 2007 but it has been pushed back and pushed back. Does she really need to perform or record?? Her singing isn''t the greatest, the best complement I''ve heard about her is that she''s a ''revved'' up Karen Carpenter. Her songs compared with the crap today in country were so much better and radio friendly in both pop and country.
Shania does have a good voice. Listen to her belting out "You''ve got a friend" at the link. I actually think she''s better than Celine.%0D\
But not Gloria.%0D\
Shania''s only talent as a songwriter is sitting in the studio on a stool looking pretty to inspire Mutt Lang, for which she got a technical partial credit. I am guessing she has hired ghost writers for her next album, the problem is there are no good songwriters of any kind left today in Country Music. You can''t hired what is not available.
Not if there''s a God.
Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, Loretta Lynn
I thought she she looked mighty fine in the "That Don''t Impress Me Much" desert video.
I believe that some people thought Shania Twain retired from the music business.
Gloria is so not a diva. What a bore!!
Shania Twain will never record again. She is not American. Country Music has become so insanely politicized in the last 10 years, non-Americans are not allowed anymore, even Democratic Americans are frowned on these days.\
Look at Brad Paisley''s new song "This is Country Music" it is the quintessential Republican American Anthem.
Brad Paisley is the new Charlie Daniels.
Seriously, has anyone even noticed her absence until this thread?
I actually haven''t seen a non-American at the American Country Awards in a long time. Maybe they don''t give awards to non-Americans anymore. That would explain why Keith Urban took on US citizenship. \
Celine Dion was at the CMTs this year, but she took US citizenship on years ago.
God willing, NO.
[quote]Having said this, in her defense, Taylor Swift did the same thing, but at least Shania Twain had some seriously good songs. Taylor Swift is pure musical dog vomit attached to a great ass.%0D\
Man, some of you on here really don''t know what you are talking about.%0D\
Taylor Swift''s success has NOTHING to do with her ass. She''s not sexy and hasn''t been pushed as a sex symbol at all.%0D\
The reason she took off was because her from-the-diary song lyrics and homely looks made her instantly relatable to young teenage girls.
Shania Twain will never record again. She is not American. Country Music has become so insanely politicized in the last 10 years, non-Americans are not allowed anymore, even Democratic Americans are frowned on these days.%0D\
You''re on point, r27.
Hell, according to the Harper Conservative government, Shania Twain isn''t even really Canadian since she lived out of the country for years. \
Shania Twain: Just visiting. She didn''t come back here for you.
Taylor Swift isn''t homely.
Taylor Swift is the bimbo of Country Music. \
Teenage girls would buy the music generated from a band of jackhammers, if somebody sung the words "You are special and not fat" over top of the noise.
Didn''s Shania step up to care for her younger siblings after their parents were killed? I think this was before she was famous. I am sure I heard that somewhere.
That''s true, r37.
It is too bad that she stopped for a while. Then again, Shania wanted to get her feet back on the ground. She had a baby. She was getting a divorce. She was living in Switzerland where she still lives.%0D\
Shania had gone through a writer''s block where she couldn''t be creative. She lost the ability to sing as well.
r11, two things.\
the man in that pic is hot...great bod\
the boy is carrying a purse...he''s going to be one of us?
Keith Urban took on US citizenship and currently lives in Nashville, TN. However it is in question whether or not it was by his choice R42.
I doubt any backup singer sang Shania''s lead vocals, r17. A collection of demos she recorded with Paul Sabu (another dude with his roots in hair metal) before she hooked up with Mutt, and before she went country, has been floating around for years and years. Same voice, same everything. I wish she had gone in that direction, which was more of a female Bryan Adams than anything else (and Mutt was instrumental in Bryan''s success, too).
She wasn''t just popular--she was a phenomenon. According to Wiki, Twain has sold over 76 million albums worldwide, including 49 million in the U.S. She released only 4 albums. %0D\
I''m surprised that the music industry would let a money-making machine like her "retire." Can''t they hire Britney''s people (Max Martin, Dr. Luke, Will.I.Am, etc.) to write her some pop country tunes? She still has her looks which is what really matters.
You do know she''s a big lez?
Was "That Don''t Impress Me Much" her coming out song?
I heard that before r48, I''d love to have her on our team.
This picture doesn''t show it as well as the others but here is Shania when she was stil Eilleen. She got the same "Sarah Palin I''m not a Lez" makeover.
You can''t be a lez and be in country. Some redneck fan (or redneck country singer, taking to you John Rich) would shoot her. \
Look at what they did to k d Lang, she is barely even allowed in the USA, never mind banned from Country Radio and Awards shows.
Taylor Swift isn''t even country. She''s pop, but pop music has become so urbanized/dance oriented that anything that doesn''t fit in that sound gets classified as alternative/country/other.
Look what happened to Chely Wright. She lost a lot of her fans behind her coming out of the closet.
You can''t be an out lez. If you had to sit through as much Eilleen tape as I did you would know Shania is big lez. That picture I posted up thread is as feminine as I could find. The girl used to have a job as a motorcycle mechanic. \
She withdrew from the spotlight by choice. I''m really, really surprised she even entertained the idea of doing an Oprah network show. The reason she hasn''t recorded is she''s had no desire to. She wanted out.
I think he show on the OWN network premieres next month.
I doubt she''s a lesbian. My partner had some business dealings with her and her team and she''s not exactly the most gay-friendly celebrity.
[quote]she''s not exactly the most gay-friendly celebrity.\
That is usually a sure fire sign.
"Look what happened to Chely Wright. She lost a lot of her fans behind her coming out of the closet."\
Chely drove Brad Paisley to the dark side. After she dumped him and came out, Brad started writing homophobic songs like "I''m Still a Guy" and Tea Party Anthems like "This is Country Music".\
How long can it be until Brad becomes a regular on Pat Robertson''s 700 Club?
If Shania Twain has gone anti-gay, she will be welcomed with open arms back into Country Music. They LOVE that! (but officially not)
Like one of the posters said on here. She''s a Canadian. A lot of the American country music listeners are turning away froim Canadian country artists.
I''m surprised people here find it unbelievable that she would be a lesbian. I mean I know aside from the two marriages. But there''s a reason someone as famous as she is just out of the blue quits and moves to Switzerland and pretty much puts herself in exile. She was worried about being outted and wanted some privacy to live with a long-term girlfriend.
Shania is getting old. She has to be in her mid 40''s by now. Music likes em'' young. Always has always will.
R64 not quite, Reba McEntire is in her 50s and is pretty well in charge now. Most Country Stars peak in their 40s, some but not all of the women when younger. \
Pop music is for the teenbeat stars. Country, Jazz or Classical not so much.
r59 I don''t think Brad Paisley really is all that much into the dark side. His wife is extremely left wing, he married this Hollywood actress. Truthfully I can''t see them together as he does REEK of teaparty bs, but they''re together still.
Her popularity was fizzling fast anyway. Shania''s last relase back in 05 was a Greatist Hits collection, where only one of the three singles even charted. It was some stupid duet where she and some hot guy swung on a swing in the music vid. The Usual stupid Twain stuff. It has some line about "looking sexy in your socks".
Good point, r67.
Gay friendly Reba is an exception not the rule R65. Shania is done.
Does anyone think that''s the reason why Shania did a reality show for the OWN network?
God - I''m watching Shania on Oprah and her voice is SO annoying. \
It''s like a smurf - I say bad nosejob. I know the Northern Canadian accent can be bad, but this is not normal voice. \
She got a fucked up nosejob - and she''s no longer very pretty anymore. \
Hope she works through her other problems - seems like a tragic life.
I noticed the change in her voice when she was promoting her Greatest Hits about 4 or 5 years ago. I was shocked at how nasally she sounded. I thought maybe she had a cold at the time, but she still sounds like that!
Did she talk about her husband leaving her for her best friend?
R74 - that was what the whole show was about. \
I really feel for her actually - that must have been unbelievably painful to confide into your best friend the . problems of your marriage until the DAY THAT you knew. \
I also feel bad about losing her parents so young and all the violence she saw. \
She really has a sad story - and she looks sad. Always had really
She looked fine to me, r72.
She has lost her voice. Combination of stage fright and stress has resulted in the muscles around her vocal box tightening up and modifying her voice. Technically there is nothing actually wrong with her vocal chords themselves. I guess it is essentially a physical manifestation of anxiety. I wonder if you could inject a small amount of botox to the muscles. I know botulinum toxin was originally used to treat stuff like cross-eyes and excessive blinking.
Great point, r78.
Off-topic--Chely Wright was with Brad Paisley? No wonder he keeps popping out brats--trying to make sure everyone knows he''s 100% non-queer.
I''m very sad that Shania lost her voice. She had a wonderful voice.
I liked some of Shania''s songs, too. But I have shit taste in music.%0D\
Wonder if her book and tv show will do well?%0D\
I would also think that some type of meds would help with her depression and being anxious?
Shania''s new husband is a prime example of Big Dick Face.
Shania at the CMTs. Wow. I would have never recognized her.
Shania actually fell on her butt making her entrance on the stage at last night''s CMT Awards.\
It is almost impossible to find video, because Shania''s people have ordered YouTube to pull any and all videos of her fall off YouTube.
So what does the best friend who she swapped husbands look like?
I never cared much for her voice, but I adore some of her songs. "Still the One" runs chills down my back--I hope find someone I feel that way about someday.
I am angry Shania Twain has not released a new album for a long time, I must admit that the UP album was not that good anyway, I have become a fan of Gillian Welch & Alison Krauss and will just forget about Shania Twain, she has become a has been.
[quote]Look at what they did to k d Lang, she is barely even allowed in the USA, never mind banned from Country Radio and Awards shows.
Thank fucking god.
Shania sings really well a capella, I like her voice. I think she said that the grief over the divorce ordeal has interfered with her desire to sing. She didn't seem to have moved on yet from the ex husband / best friend betrayl thing yet, if you watch the Oprah interview. She seemed unaware of how self absorbed an "in it" she still was during that interview and I think she should not have done any filmed interviews at that point.
People seriously think she can sing? God, I'm glad I don't have to hear her screechy voice anymore. Now if only Nickelback would go the same way. And I say this as a Canadian.
[quote]But there's a reason someone as famous as she is just out of the blue quits and moves to Switzerland and pretty much puts herself in exile.
She lived in Switzerland when she was married to her husband. She was hardly in exile.
Fingering your fat twat to straight women makes you straight, r63.
And what business is it of yours, OP? Overinvested much?
Twain has made a shitload of money and never has to work again in her life.
Isn't Shania taking over Celine's show in Vegas? I thought that was the end result of her OWN show.
I've always liked her. She showed up a lot of the country divas whose voices could peal paint by writing her own songs alongside Mutt Lange. It was a great sound for country. A lot of great acts from back then- The Mavericks, Mary Chapin Carpenter, LeRoy Parnell you just don't hear anymore. They're all now boring fundies. Taylor Swift will end up getting a lot of Shania type backlash before too long.
So true, 94.
Twain's voice is average at best. However her husband, manager or whomever, was a genius at packaging her. Her songs were catchy and were quite different from what women in country music were singing at the time.
Not a lesbian. The anxiety/voice change/lack of creative partner/past her prime posts are correct.
She really is insanely wealthy. But she didn't become a star by shunning the limelight. Her need for attention will bring her back into the open, even if she can't sing anymore. Reality TV makes sense.
She was supposed to do her own Las Vegas show at the end of the Oprah show. Did she do it?
I think she starts in August or December. I don't think she's replacing Celine, they rotate performers, Elton, Rod, Celine, Shania.
She'll have a Vegas show starting in December of this year. It would be smart of her to release a new album before then. I watched an episode of her show on OWN where she sang a new song she wrote. It was catchy. She just needs a new producer who can bring her songs to life in the studio.
I think her voice is average. She's one of those singers who have a pleasing tone but no power.
I think she's hot. Would definitely hit that.
[quote] A lot of great acts from back then- The Mavericks, Mary Chapin Carpenter, LeRoy Parnell you just don't hear anymore. They're all now boring fundies.
Mary Chapin Carpenter is HARDLY a fundie!
Ms. Twain needs to record another video duet with Billy Currington.
She can wear whatever she wants but Billy needs to be shirtless.
Shania is your classic rags to riches story. Very rough background. Lots of heartbreak, including her husband leaving her for her best friend. Parents dying young.
However, she married the best friend's husband and is actually pretty happy raising their kids together.
She's got plenty of money and stability for the first time in her life. She's just not the ambition machine she once was.
I hear she'll be happy to play Vegas and all that, but she's not weeping over no longer being a superstar.
She looks great for someone nearing 50, too.
It's hard to believe it's been an entire decade since she released a studio album. But, you know what? Good for her for not being a famewhore like so many of these other people who throw out mediocre album after mediocre album simply to stay in the spotlight. I guess she figures she'll put out a new album whenever she's ready.
I've heard her duet with Lionel Richie, on Lionel's current album, I guess. It's a country inflected "Endless Love," and it's fairly good. She sounds pretty much as she always has.
[quote]Didn's Shania step up to care for her younger siblings after their parents were killed? I think this was before she was famous. I am sure I heard that somewhere.
She didn't actually. Just more PR lies about her background. She screwed over a lot of people on her way up.
There are scores of girls singing on cruise ships and Vegas lounges who are at least as good as her. As a matter of fact she actually was a cruise ship singer before Mutt got ahold of her, fixed her teeth and manufactured a career for her. I find her incredibly boring.
Who did she screw over?
As R17 said, she's a perpetual candidate as MV - the singer who doesn't sing, over on CDAN, but my money's still on J-Lo. It's hard for me to believe that she put in all those years on cruise ships and resorts without being able to sing at least a little bit. But correct me, if someone knows better.
I know she was criticized for presenting herself as native American, but I had never heard that she didn't care for her siblings after her adopted parents had been killed, R108. Has that been revealed?
Why do some of you put down a successful woman? And were any of you in the recording studio at the time? If you weren't, then you have no right to comment!
You don't have to like Shania or country artists for that matter, but some of those personal attacks are unnecessary!
I think she is brilliant and wish to God that she would return, hope she will one day.
For what it's worth she was raised in the Ojibway Indian culture by her stepfather, a full blooded Ojibway native.
Jerry Twain adopted the girls, making them official members of his native band, the Temagami Anishnawbe Bear Island First Nation.
So legally she is Ojibway Indian, and the native band recognizes her as part of the tribe.
She has also said her biological father was part Cree.
After her step-father adopted her, Shania (born Eileen Regina Edwards) was legally entitled to be registered as a "status Indian". Shania currently holds a status card and is on the official band membership list of the Temagami First Nation.
In 1991, the singer was offered a recording contract in Nashville and applied for immigration status into the United States. At that time, by virtue of her step-father Jerry Twain being a full-blooded Ojibway and the rights guaranteed to Native Americans in the Jay Treaty (1794), Shania became legally registered as having 50 per cent Native American blood.
Who cares if she ever releases another album as nobody with an ounce of musical taste would buy it and it would be so rubbish that illegal downloading would be ignored as anybody who did download it must be a retard who needed pity not prosecution.
Her previous success was down to Mutt Lange and Mutt Lange alone, it certainly wasn't down to her talent as she has none.
Early pictures show her looking like an inbreed so there was obviously a fortune spent on plastic surgery to make her look presentable although she always looks like she gets dressed in the dark.
always thought she was a bore
[quote]Shania Twain - will she ever record again?
It was bad enough the first time.
She's nearing 50? Omg! Say what you want but how many of you are the main bread winner of the family when you're a child?
Does she still have that cute little figure with those awesome abs?
When one is born white trash they remain white trash
I'm not a big fan, but I really liked the song she wrote for her recent OWN show. She has a nice tone.
If David Foster is in charge of her new album, it's going to be a HUGE flop. What hit has he produced for a star like Shania in the past years? Shania would have better luck going with a more current producer who has a track record. A lot is riding on this album.
That one-shot single she released from that reality series was an embarrassment. Yes, it was catchy, like a kindergarten ditty, but the lyrics are so amateurish. Nothing proved Mutt Lange's worth to her career more than that single with David Foster.
Good point R126
I remember reading somewhere on here that she's homophobic. Is that true? I was surprised because she doesn't seem like she would be, but I've been wrong before.
In any case, I can't see her new album being a hit. She hasn't released a studio album in 11 years and all of her hits were when Mutt produced for her.
[quote] David Foster is in charge of her new album, it's going to be a HUGE flop.
Tell that to Celine Dion.
R129 - did he executive produce Celine's albums?
Yes he did
He produced Celine album Falling into You, The Bodyguard soundtrack and Whitney's I will always love you.
R131 - that was my point. He hasn't had a hit song/album in years and years and years. Those albums you listed are between 15 and 20 years old.
[quote] He hasn't had a hit song/album in years and years and years.
In 2008 and 2011 he won Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album for Michael Buble.
But Shania ISN'T traditional pop. She's hardcore pop with a country twang. So David is talented, yes, but this is not his forte. Shania needs to reunite with Mutt.
she didn't sing so much as she barked and welped like a cocker spaniel, just a little less hairy. and btw, she looked like a soccer mom in that pic from 2011. what singer wears flats to an awards show (and then trips in them?). NEXT
R137 Shania Twain Centre turned into open pit mine. LOL You can write a country song about that.
R138 She still is.
Shania's reality show a couple years ago showed that she is damaged from Mutt Lange's affair with her best friend. The entire series she couldn't stop talking about it and her husband was right there. I can understand why she can't get over it because most of her songs were created by Mutt Lange so they could trigger memories. She didn't sing for years no doubt to avoid bringing up those memories. She said it was due to something wrong with her vocal chords but she had them checked on the show and they literally were perfect.
Her 2002 album faced an uphill climb. She took years to make it and rap was dominating mainstream music. She then vanished from public for years. People moved on. If you walk away from something that brings you great success then come back years later the public won't follow you.
That's sad R137.
Get some therapy!
R140 Not really surprising though. Besides the fact it's silly to have a museum for someone who's not even 50, she hasn't released a studio album in over a decade and hasn't really done anything in the public eye in years. No wonder it flopped.
At this point the media isn't checking for Shania Twain. She's ancient history.
Shania has accomplished everything she wants to.
She still hold the record for the best-selling studio album of all time by a female act in any genre and the best-selling country album of all time.
And she is only one of six women to win Country Music's highest award and honor. Entertainer of the Year.
The only other women who have won that award are Country music royalty. Loretta Lynn, Dolly Parton, Barbara Mandrell, Reba McEntire and her.
Taylor Swift has also won that award as well, rounding out the six.
I agree R144.
How does the country music industry treat Canadian country artists and musicians?
I think she should consider working with however is producing Maroon 5's new material...it has a commercial sheen but sometimes has some "organic" elements. I'm sure they can put a slide guitar in there so it's "country."
She is a songwriter in her own right, she had an album out before she met Lange...but after the horrible divorce, where Lange had an affair with her best friend, she had a lot of trouble even thinking about performing all those songs she wrote and produced with him. He's a veeery successful music producer/songwriter (AC/DC, Def Leppard, a million others) and he definitely took her up a notch but she basically had a huge issue singing and performing those songs. She ended up with her best friend's husband, who is actually really hot, and she release a new album but touring she would have to sing all the old stuff and she's said that's still really difficult for her to do.
I'm guessing she'll set up in Vegas like Celine at some point and just rake in the money. Also, every time she performs Lange makes money so maybe that pisses her off. I think the critical mistake she made was taking so long to release anything after that monster album...she moved to Switzerland with Lange and raised the kid, etc., and sort of dropped out sight.
Nashville does hate her, because she did everything outside of it with Lange, and did not kiss anybody's ring like country artists are expected to.
R149, Shania has been in Vegas for quite awhile. Not sure how well her show is doing...
oh! thanks R150...I figured that's where she'd go but I didn't realize she was already set up there.