I haven''t been anywhere in the South since 2000. It was a trip to Washington, D.C. which included going into Virginia.%0D\
North Carolina is changing. Apparently. The Research Triangle. Charlotte has been on the rise. Democratic Party will hold its 2012 convention there.%0D\
Anyone here live in the state? And what do you like and dislike about it?
Hmmm funny you should ask,I posted the other day with someone asking about Winston Salem.
I live in Charlotte and I do like it. Charlotte is one of the top three cities for the banking industry, so there has a been a huge increase of population in the last 10 years.
NC has always been staunch Republican and yes you will find many with the conservative mentality and the old south mentality, fortunately a lot of them are dying off.
Here is what I like. Very affordable housing, and space. I have animals so I need land. The traffic is nowhere near as bad as Atlanta and it is a slower pace of life. I don't think the gay scene is as good here as in the RTP area but Charlotte is actually a much larger city than Raleigh.
Charlotte is growing at a very rapid pace and is hopefully taking over some of Atlanta's business. We are still a very red state but I am excited about the DNC and hope it brings more people with it. It is also one of the cleanest cities I have ever seen.
Sure there are things I don't like, the fucking southerners who want to hold onto the civil war and a life that is no longer livable but NC has been good to me. I hope this answers your question OP.
Grew up in Chapel Hill. Loved it. Only I moved when I was 20 so did not experience the good nightlife.
I was born & raised in Greensboro. Not everyone in NC is Republican. My parents'' families were and are still Democrats. Yes, there are jerks here, but there are many wonderful, gay-friendly people here also.
Love it. Love the weather and the people. I live in the triangle, and it is quite liberal.\
To be honest, I wish the flow from North to South would slow down a bit. I shouldn''t talk because I come from CT, but anytime I encounter rudeness, it always seems to turn out to be a NYer. \
If I could live anywhere in NC it would probably be near Asheville - absolutely beautiful area and very liberal as well.
Here is my spiel on the metro areas.
The triangle area is a great place to be. Chapel Hill currently has a gay mayor and Carrboro has had one before. There is also a strong local food movement and a lot of quality restaurant options for a area of its size. The only gay nightlife in the area is found in Raleigh but a lot of the places around Durham/Chapel Hill/Carrboro are very gay friendly.
Charlotte is the bigger city but isn't quite as nice of an area as the triangle IMO. There is more of a southern feel to the area and it has a little less personality than the Triangle. Still it is a clean growing city that is on the right track.
Personally I am not a big fan of the triad area which includes Greensboro/Winston-Salem/High Point. The time I spent there I just found it quite boring.
Asheville is a great hippie mountain town. Another place in North Carolina I highly recommend.
It is a good state. Even though it is unmistakably the South our state government has generally been democratic. This is actually the first time that both houses have been Republican in a century.
The most progressive southern state. I live in Raleigh and it''s quite liberal, with an active and youthful creative class. Still somewhat affordable, good weather, great economy for the times, and a tank of gas from mountains or beach. Think Austin-Lite.
I recently moved to Charlotte from Chicago for a job transfer. I am originally from Minnesota and have lived in Colorado and the UK as well. So that's my frame of reference. %0D
Anyway, the things I like about Charlotte are that it's beautiful, green, clean, good cost of living, very little traffic, affordable housing, you can live "in the city" and still have a decent sized house with a nice yard, people are friendly.%0D
The things I don't like: even living in the city feels like living in the burbs, the Bible Belt is alive and well - I get so tired of hearing "Blessings!" everywhere I go. No joke, it's normal and acceptable for group prayer in my workplace, and I work for a Big 4 accounting firm. I also don't think the restaurant scene is all that great here, but again I'm comparing with Chicago which has some of the best restaurants in the world.%0D
Overall it's a very nice place to live. I assume it would be a good place to raise a family if that's your thing, good for dogs, close to the mountains, closeish to the beach, etc.%0D
Having said all that, I'm out of here and heading back north in a couple of years when my job is finished.
R7, that is an excellent description and what I was trying to say in too long winded of a way.\
Things are changing very much in NC for the better as more Democrats are moving here and the old southern guard is dying off.\
Agree with other posters about the mountains. Dont forget Boone and Blowing Rock.
Anyone been to New Bern? Looks pretty and there is a multicultural private school nearby, so it must have some diversity.
I like Raleigh It has a good arts scene, music and theater, but others as well. Very good restaurants, especially for its size. Good business community especially in tech and bio-tech. %0D\
Lots of educated people because of the three big universities (Duke, UNC and NC State). Excellent health care because of UNC and Duke.%0D\
Easy access to mountains and shore.%0D\
Crappy state politics, although Raleigh is ok. Of course, Northern states have problems with their state legislatures too. However, one of the advantages of smaller cities is that it is easy to know your representatives. I am no particular activist, but I am on a first name basis with the mayor and my state rep and it is no problem to meet with others to press an issue.
ohio BIRTHPLACE of Aviation, bitch
I was born and raised in South Florida, but have lived in Asheville for 11 years. My family used to come here for summer vacation every year that I can remember. Its different living here though.%0D\
While Asheville and especially downtown Asheville(my office is downtown)is very liberal and voting to show that, as you leave the city limits it changes drastically. Very redneck/hillbilly. Asheville proper is very gay friendly, not so much everywhere else. The mountains are beautiful in spring, summer and fall, not so much in the winter. For the past 2-3 years we have had very bad winters, lots of snow and ice. Being from So Flo I really don''t care for that, but otherwise come and visit and see what you think.
Bank of America is evil and I hope all of you people in Charlotte realize that your prosperity was stolen from the rest of the U.S. and the world. %0D\
I''m pissed the DNC picked anti-union North Carolina to host the convention and they''re having the whole fucking thing financed by Duke Energy (no wonder the Dems can''t say boo about nuclear power being a huge fucking risk as Japan showed us)?%0D\
Why couldn''t Obama support his hometown or Detroit or Cleveland or something that really needs the business?
Charlotte has the highest unemployment in the state, so, its not like its doing all that well. The DNC will be a nice boost for the city.
Winston-Salem (and the triangle area) is one of the worst areas I have ever visited (for work). I was there on and off working on a project and it was hell. It is a Republican bastion and there is nothing to do. Might as well die before living in Winston-Salem. I spent a few days in Charlotte, and compared to WS, it was heaven.
r17, you mean the ''Triad'' as in Greensboro, Burlington, High Point
Asheville is a thriving liberal town. The downtown area is crowded every night. Bars cafes stores...all crowded every night of the week. Lots of locals and tourists all enjoying the crowded streets. I love it there. Can''t wait to move back in a few months. For some reason it is a lezzie haven. The gals love it.%0D\
And it is the home of Andie McDowell. Oh shut up.
NC is a great place to raise a family. Charlotte is pretty dull. Raleigh is okay. NC has a lot to offer in terms of housing, jobs, schools, etc. Other than that NC isn''t the best place to live.
For more than 400 years they''ve been pushing the poison of tobacco on the world. Why are they praised here?
Well of course I'll have to give my 2 cents about this state. I grew up in the Piedmont area, but moved to the mountains after finishing my undergrad. As a youngster I swore up and down that I would move to one of the big cities up north or on the west coast; had pre/misconceptions about the "gay life" all together. But in all honesty, as an adult, I really couldn't imagine living anywhere else but NC. Now, living in South Asheville, I feel like it is a place that represents the diverse attitudes that I've always had in mind. I mean you can really be who you are, with whomever you choose, and the people probably couldn't care less. Most are totally oblivious to the flash and the glam, as it is more about being surrounded by nature. Soooo...as already mentioned, haters exist on the outskirts and they don't like their ways of life to be bothered. Depending on what you're looking for, it can be expensive living in the mountains. As much as I love the mountains I do love being on the Outer Banks; again, it can be very expensive to live there as well. I'm really excited about the convention next year. Anyway, that's it!
Born and raised in North Carolina, then moved to South Carolina. The ONLY advantage of South Carolina is that it is a bit warmer here! I''d have to agree with much being said about North Carolina, and I, personally, LOVE Charlotte! I have also heard that Asheville is very gay-friendly. Having family still in North Carolina, I can tell you that there is still a really hardcore Republican base living in the state, despite Obama taking the state in the last election.
Sorry, NC strikes me as a bland southern state with very little personality. It may just be my prejudice against Charlotte, since I am basing it on my experience there. I thought is sucked, hard. Maybe Raleigh is better?
The cities are liberal and the rural are are conservative. The cities are getting more populated and the rural areas are aging. Charlotte is a big sprawly burb with an area with high rises and lots of banks. Raleigh is moderate, Durham is leftie and lesbian city, Chapel Hill is moneyed liberals. Highpoint and Greensboro is the furniture making center so they are working class. Winston Salem is education and old tobacco. Ashville is the hippy capitol. We have the Army, Fayetteville, the Air Force, Goldsboro and the Marines, Jacksonville. \
Mountains to the left, ocean to the right. Small farms scattered throughout.\
There''s something for everyone.
Possibly r24, but I think it is also what one is looking for. I made the comment in another recent thread that NC is a very laid back state even in the more industrious areas. I would say if your overall goal for a vacation or life is to take it easy, settle down or maybe start a family with your other half, then you will most definitely like it here. Looking for a fast paced life with parades, party scenes, or rubbing shoulders with the stars/designers? Then it''s not likely going to be that way in NC. Most people come here to get away from that.
North Carolina is the promised land amongst U.S. states. Beautiful state with some fast growing cities.
Winston-Salem is especially pretty with foothills in background.
Charlotte is boring.
You might rub elbows with Clay Akin and Andy McDowell.%0D\
Chapel hill is so socialist that their public transport is - FREE!
Right to Work dump.
[quote]You might rub elbows with Clay Akin and Andy McDowell. \
OH MY! OH MY!
You''d think he''d have gotten one of their names right
And don''t forget me, r30
[R17] Those of us who live in the Triad would rather you die than move here, as well.
Winston-Salem is very nice. Beautiful city with a nice downtown.
Raleigh slipped one spot on the national Fit Cities list, but still ranks as the fittest city in the state and second-fittest in the South.
The American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) measures the fitness status of the nation’s 50 largest metros and ranks them by its American Fitness Index (AFI). With a score of 60.3 out of 100, Raleigh ranked 15th in the nation. Although the AFI here was up from 58.8 last year, Raleigh ranked one spot lower than last year because San Diego and Cincinnati improved more. Charlotte ranked 36th, down from 33rd last year. The only city in the South to rank higher than the Raleigh-Cary MSA was Austin, Texas.
It’s a stat that’s worth paying attention to as it could save individuals and companies on health care premiums. Health insurance rates can differ widely even within a state, and are influenced at least partly by the health of the population.
It’s no secret that an unhealthy population carries higher health care costs, which in turn translates to higher premiums.
According to the Partnership To Fight Chronic Disease, the United States ranks poorly compared to other industrialized countries on most important health indicators. Chronic diseases in particular are affecting the nation’s health. Chronic illnesses, such as diabetes, cancer and heart disease, and their underlying causes such as obesity and tobacco use, affect more than 130 million Americans – nearly half the population – and account for 75 percent of U.S. health care spending, or $1.5 trillion annually.
Winston-Salem is beautiful
I would never recommend moving to Winston Salem though.
If you are going to live in North Carolina it needs to be Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill, Asheville or Charlotte.
I wouldn't live anywhere else in the state.
North Carolina is one of the most horrible states in the country. Once you get out of the research triangle you might as well be in Alabama.
Charlotte is absolutely horrible. Bunch of rednecks in business suits. The only cultural event is NASCAR. Big trucks. Rightwingers everywhere. Republicans running state government t and destroying whatever infrastructure remains.
If NC were to disappear, the world would be a better place.
r40, you sound like a very unhappy person.
There are many, many states worse than North Carolina R40...