[quote] How come the ladies here didn''t go all Mariska over LH?\
they thought she was Elijah Woods.
She tried to pick-up my best friend......a female!
[quote]Will Greer ( Grandpa Walton )\
[italic]Legacies of Love: A Heritage of Queer Bonding[/italic] by Winston Wilde...is filled to the brim with many amusing anecdotes, such as the following, found in the passage about actor Will Geer, probably best known for his role of Grandpa on [italic]The Waltons[/italic]. "Geer had many lovers of both genders, notably gay American civil rights pioneer Harry Hay. At Geer''s funeral, Hay blurted out to [Geer''s widow] Herta Ware, ''I had him first.'' She replied, ''I had him longest.''"
"Jack White could very well be bi, IMO."\
Why, because he''s androngynous looking?\
Why is IT ALWAYS assumed if a male, or female, looks a certain way, they''re bisexual?\
Before he got married to Karen Elson, the groupies at the old Groupie Central gossip forum certainly had a lot to say about him. He''s into oral, both giving and receiving, among other things.
Yes. Big ol'' bottom
R50. good looking me are gay, good looking women are never gay but bi. That''s Datalounge logic.
I love R43
What got me was that Robert Conrad is queer, but Ross Martin wasn''t. \
Could''ve knocked me over with a feather. (Though, like the late Michael Garrison, would have preferred that you had stripped RC and tied him to something.)
A lot of good answers, especially Ed O''Neill, Bernadette Peters, Will Geer, and Esai Morales... I''d like to add Dolly Parton, John Goodman, Tom Selleck, Olivia Newton-John, Spencer Tracy, and Carol Burnett.
R56, more about Mr. Tracy, if you please. \
Details? Tricks? Lovers?
Spencer was the ultimate gentleman, along with the ultimate fellatio expert.
From Sherman''s home neighborhood. It was one of those open secrets.
There was even some tabloid press about it
R60. are you referring to Sherman Hemsley? (And not to the Spencer Tracy inquiry?)
R56, anything can be shocking if you just make it up.
[quote]K.C., of The Sunshine Band fame.\
K.C., of The Sunshine Band fame??? What are you, headless?
The Ghost Of Karen Walker
Hal Linden is married and has five kids. So of course he''s gay!
What do you think I''m making up, r62? I know for a fact that Tom Selleck has had a man on the side for 20+ years. Dolly has had a girlfriend (Judy Ogle) for decades. Ask ON-J about Sandahl Bergman. Ask Carol Burnett about Marcia Brandwynne (or better yet, Julie Andrews, although that was years ago). Goodman has been married to Annabeth for 20 years, but ask the cast of "Big River" about him. \
Did I personally sleep with Spencer Tracy? No, he died before I was born. And was he exclusively gay? No idea, but he used to hire a lot of hustlers in the 40s and 50s. I''ve spoken to too many people who have absolutely no reason to lie about ST who knew him to be a alcoholic, often violent man who had incredible self loathing about his sane sex attractions.
r62 wipes back to front.
saMe sex attractions, although I do enjoy the idea of a sane sex attraction.
"I Still Can''t Believe I is Gay!"
Gator Nelson....I guess that''s wishful thinking
Tyler Perry is one who, yes, can''t believe HE, himself is gay! That is hilarious!
C. Nelson Reilly
I second Bernadette Peters.
No way is Hal Linden gay. Doesn''t ping in the slightest.
Don''t be fooled, R74... Linden played the clarinet. Ya see? Ya see? It all fits together now, doesn''t it?
Patricia Routledge, who played "Hyacynthe Bouquet"
J. Edgar Hoover
I have to agree with R19''s mention of Samantha Fox.%0D\
Fox''s whole career was nothing but slutting herself in centerfolds, posters, and rock videos for horny straight guys to masturbate over. She had no other discernible talent.%0D\
And that''s STILL her only claim to fame! Even in her late 30s, even AFTER coming out, she was still happily whoring herself in new re-recorded versions of "Touch Me" and "Naughty Girls."
Robert Conrad is not gay, just another DL gay fantasy.%0D\
If you apply the same criteria to him that you apply to female suspects, since Conrad has been married to women and there have been no males claiming to have known him sexually, there''s no PROOF. Nothing.
R79 is upset over being told Elizabeth Mitchell is straight.
Hal Linden was, in his unique way, incredibly sexy. I can believe he, or anyone for that matter, was (or is, if he''s still with us) gay. But I am delightfully happy to hear it.
After "The Jeffersons" went off, there was a tabloid story about Sherman Hemsley''s partner suing him. Sherm claimed there was no relationship, he just rented a room to the guy.
"good looking me are gay,"%0D\
Honey, good looking you is a myth. But I''m sure ugly you is gay.
[quote] good looking me are gay\
Why is straight me so stupid?
Poor R79. Just because dozens of cute young blonde had sex with Conrad, but he didnt, he''s all upset. Conrad competed with Lee Majors for gayest gay that ever wore tight TV pants and got fucked all the time. But it''s just too much for 79. He wants proof!
Amber Heard was a bit of a shock. Some still think it''s a stunt even after she organized that protest at Target and is openly photographed with her girlfriend.\
Anna Paquin was also a surprise, though I think that one might actually have been a stunt. The dad from The Brady Bunch surprised me when someone told me, I was 14 when told though so anyone would have surprised me.
Lee Majors, Robert Conrad -- has ANY MALE EVER come forward and said they had sex with them?%0D\
See the thread on Dionne Warwick. According to Dataloungers, neither she nor Karen Carpenter are/were lesbians. There were just RUMORS about them, and that "doesn''t count." %0D\
The only rumors about Majors and Conrad started here. %0D\
Don''t use double standards.
As far as Lee Majors is concerned there is a book called Both Sides of the Rainbow that is said to be a Roman a Clef about the author''s relationship with Lee while he was with Farrah. Apparently Lee is Bi.
"Ask ON-J about Sandahl Bergman."\
Wasn''t Sandahl Bergman involved with Roy Scheider? Or was that just the plot of a movie?\
IIRC, Sandahl Bergman was a tall sexy blond, she kind of resembled the blond who dated Dudley Moore, Susan Anton.\
Sandahl Bergman is gay?!
[quote] The only rumors about Majors and Conrad started here\
No. The rumors pre-date datalounge
Don''t be silly, R92!\
Nothing pre-dates Datalounge!
Saffron Burrows has dated Alun Cumming (!!, she lived with him) as well as director Mike Figgis.\
She lived with Cumming for a few years. Alan had been married to a woman. Who knew?\
Her last romantic partner was actress Fiona Shaw.\
In 2006, the Independent on Sunday, listed Burrows as the 90th most influential gay person in the UK, although she is bisexual.\
In a 2003 interview ex-boyfriend Alan Cumming said "I was really lucky that the first relationship I had after [my divorce] was with Saffron, who''s really...understanding and a broadminded person. And who''s now...As I''m sure you know...Well. She bats for both teams, too."\
btw, is "Law & Order: Criminal Intent", still on TV?!
R90, that''s interesting, but we need names. Until them, it''s just a fun fantasy for some.
The rumor way back in the day was that Karen Carpenter just had to be a lesbian because she played the drums. \
I think that Richard Carpenter was the gay one. He married his own biological first cousin for God''s sakes! Weird-o!
Never heard that one, r96. For me was that Karen had no boyfriends, hung around with lesbians and married a gay male. Not exactly "proof" of anything, but if she was a desirable male, the DL queens would be labeling her gay.
Yes rumors can never be believed. That''s why I still know for certain that Liberace is straight. So is john Travolta. And Tom Cruise. Straight straight straight! \
Because the only proof that someone is gay is if and when he or she comes out and says so.\
And even that isn''t good enough for me.
Frau Straighter than Straightsky
I had a roommate who lived next door to Lee Majors in Indiana ...
gayer than the yellow brick road ...
Karen Carpenter had canevoice, certainly.%0D\
I didn''t know about Bernadette! I guess I was thrown off by her having allegedly dated Steve Martin.
r100 "I''m gonna buy you a diamond ring so big you''ll puke!"\
"I don''t wanna puke."
R91: Roy Scheider started dating (and eventually married) a different Amazonian blond named Brenda (she was Ann Reinking''s roommate at the time and would visit the set). Don''t know if Sandahl is exclusively lesbian (She has a daughter... but then again, so does ON-J) But Sandahl had a huge cocaine problem in the late 70s/early 80s, and at the time of Xanadu, was probably sleeping with lots of different people. But she definitely had a substantial (over a year) relationship with ON-J.
"I didn''t know about Bernadette! I guess I was thrown off by her having allegedly dated Steve Martin."%0D\
Steve Martin has had a number of lesbian girlfriends, including Anne Heche.%0D\
Certainly, r98, but thiose rules have to be applied to females as well.%0D\
Get aload of the "not a lesbian" shit in this thread:
I''m sorry, but I just cannot picture Bernadette Peters eating out some snatch. %0D\
Yesterday, a DL poster referred to a Black man as a "dinge." It was in the Subject Heading for the thread. I was shocked, but, sadly, not surprised, because:\
DataLounge continues to encourage, and indeed to celebrate, the use of degrading and derogatory language about women, and people who hate women are likely inclined to be haters of all kinds of folks.\
Misogyny is rampant on DL; racism clearly vibrates just below the surface of many DL posts.\
Queers who demean and abuse Black people and women are queers who will never win equal rights; who will never learn to accept themselves as individuals; who will never be able to reach out to other minority groups in order to fight the racism and sexism and classism and misogyny and homophobia that have lately been amplified by the Republican Party and are all around us; who will never be able to respect anyone, including themselves.\
Stop the violence against women. It''s killing us.
*I* still can''t believe that DL hasn''t run amok over Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson together in a buddy film. Oh my ...
or did I miss it?
The last time I saw Lee Majors, he was on Will & Grace.
What does that tell you?
R109, was he on both Will AND Grace?
[quote]I''m sorry, but I just cannot picture Bernadette Peters eating out some snatch.\
Those kewpie-doll lips of hers are ideal for sucking on a clit.
Supposedly Bernadette''s gf is her long time assistant, they''ve been together 20 years or so.
Since Steve Martin''s girlfriends seem to "end up" gay, is that a reflection on him or is everyone in the arts bisexual? Seems that way.
No man has ever come forward to say he had sex with Kevin Spacey!%0D\
That means he is straight!
many have come forward about being accosted by him [r115]
he''s A FUCKING PREDATOR ... too bad he''s considered gay
"many have come forward about being accosted by him"%0D\
Uh, no. Not in the mainstream media, only on the datalounge (don''t get me wrong, I''m sure he''s a homo. I''m just pointing out the idiocy of saying someone can''t be gay because "no one has come forward")
Incidentally, Sherman Hemsley was on one of Outpost''s ABSOLUTELY QUEER posters that got plastered all over NY--especially near media outlets.\
Along with SH, were Tom Cruise (the first), later followed by Jolie, Tom Selleck, Debra Winger, Debbie Reynolds, Ron Reagan, Greg Louganis, David Geffen, Barry Diller, and others.\
The posters featured a large picture of the star, his or her name and the large AQ line in all caps, using the same Futura Extra Bold Condensed type used in Absolut vodka ads.
This isn''t an authentic AQ poster--the real ones weren''t square. This may actually be CD cover; in any case, it gives you an idea what they looked like.
Her name came up on the DL a couple times last year and I even wrote in to say I doubted she was a lesbian. Nothing about her persona -- constantly making suggestive remarks about her "future husbands" -- indicated she was gay. Then a couple months later she came out on her radio show.
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This dude I work with, caughs JOHN!!! that everyone suspects of hiding dead animals in his room and garage...
Beverly Leslie is a homosexual.
Not only was Karen Carpenter not gay, she was a big old homophobe. And she did have at least two famous boyfriends - Mark Harmon & Steve Martin.
She was a homophobe because she was frightened of her own gayness, r125. Not unusual, duh.
[quote]I''m sorry, but I just cannot picture Bernadette Peters eating out some snatch.\
Why do you think we''re always doing those Sondheim retrospectives together?
Christian Slater? Surely you jest.
I Still Can''t Believe all the of the Popes were Gay pole suckers. \
Well I sorta can now. Our new slogan is, Sortacan to the Vatican. \
I heard the Vatican will be renamed by the first female Pope, The Vaticuntine
Shit, R78, even Bananarama said Samantha had no singing talent, which is really saying something (no pun intended). I was shocked to hear Sam was a dyke, too, though!
[quote]I heard the Vatican will be renamed by the first female Pope.%0D\
What past century are you posting from? The Vatican has already had a female Pope.
I don''t know if it''s true or not, but I was surprised to learn, quite a few years ago, of persistent rumors that Veronica Hamel is a lesbian. \
Along the same line, Daniel J. Travanti surprised me, as did Frasier''s dad, John Mahoney. And, going out on a limb, John Goodman (rumored).
Robert Conrad doesn''t seem to think he''s gay.%0D\
Scroll along to 3:00
Here''s how the Conrad thing probably worked. He never IDENTIFIED as gay but used to let men fuck him back in his "hot" days. Perhaps he still does. He is an old school "pre Stonewall" Hollywood actor who would NEVER ever come out then (especially) or now. Career suicide back in the day. But I have heard too many stories about his gay trysts back in the day to think that he was not doin'' it with guys. AND he is a major asshole with anger issues. I think he might have mellowed somewhat in old age.
Sorry, Frauski at [R98] . \
Whatever Liberace is, is GAY.\
And whatever Raymond Burr is is STRAIGHT.
Robert Conrad is only gay on the Datalounge, silly.
[quote]Robert Conrad is only gay on the Datalounge...%0D\
along with those who knew him during the days of "Black Sheep Squadron."
More about Bernadette, please.
r120, really because I pegged her from one conversation she had on the radio a few months from coming out. Some woman called and was overly flirtatous and Stephanie couldn''t get her off the phone fast enough. I knew it then.
Speaking of Frasier, both his brother and father were played by homosexuals. also, Dan Butler who played Bulldog was out and proud.
This is for you, r30! Yes, that''s Rita Wilson @ 6:45...
Ghandi, your dad, your mom, all trollers... Population explosion solved. Breathe easy, and buy property.
Ellen Corby, Grandma Walton, who married Edgar Bergen in "I Remember Mama."
Peter Allen, Jack Haley Jr, David Gest
Liza with a Z
I suspected Bryan Adams being gay for many years. I'm too lazy right now to Google it, but I thought he got married (to a woman) last year or at least announced his plans to.
Acne scars aside, he is still a handsome man, very fit and young looking. He's a vegan, and also a photographer with a few exhibits under his belt. He once took an official photo of The Queen of Canada.
didn't he have a thing with Todd Oldham? I know he art directed or directed one of Bryan's videos in the 90s.
He did marry a woman and they had a kids. But the gay rumours have been around for decades. And before this, he was never known to be with a woman.
Oh, Anne Murray. The Canadian Snowbird. Also one of us.
Edmund "Kris Kringle" Gwenn
You know, a guy sucks 3 or 4 C**ks, and all of a sudden he is labeled a C**ksucker for life! ROFLMFAO
hal linden was married from the 1950s to 2012 and has for kids
heard that chuck connors was gay or had done some gay porn and refused to believe it but a co worker showed me the footage and i was stunned;with chuck connors facial structure being what it is it could be none other than chuck banging some guy
also would bet a million dollars that john goodman's gay and his wife has been his beard;classic case where the best man at the wedding is really the boyfriend of the groom;best man also lived with the pair;has one daughter like robert reed had one daughter
Bryan Adams surprised me, as did Seann William Scott. They are both masculine guys who have played the 'beard game' well.
Ed O'Neill is gay? Awesome.
I don't think Seann William Scott is gay. Where did you hear that?
r164, there is a rumor about Seann having sex with a male co-star on a movie set a few years back...
You know, gossip.
Daniel J. Travanti
Richard Nixon, although it might explain the physical awkwardness, the paranoia, and Bebe Rebozo.
Read a book several yrs ago about being gay in Hollywood and it alluded to the fact that Esai Morales was gay....it's not a bad thing. Doesn't change how good looking he is....Jason Scott Lee....nice surprise.
George W Bush
Tennis player Martina Navratilova
Barack Obama and Chicago Gayor Rahm Emmanuel
LOL to R169
helen hunt WTF like?
R171, thank you! This is the first time I've seen a reference to Nixon. I'm "old" now, but remember being a teenager when Nixon resigned after Watergate. I remember my mother and aunt, in their mid-40's then, both wondering about Nixon and citing his friendship with Bebe Rebozo. I had poor gaydar back then and was SHOCKED to think of a president being a closeted gay.
I'm STILL shocked! is the post upthread about Obama/R. Emmanuel a joke? Or...wow. just wow.
Although my best friend has always wondered about Bill Clinton and George Stephanopoulus, bwaaaaaaaaaaaa...
R135, Raymond Burr's longtime partner (still alive?) would be surprised to hear anybody with a brain thought Burr was straight.
Daniel Craig Bradley Cooper
No need to speculate any longer about John Goodman. I lived in New Orleans during the time he decided to make it his home base. He was thrilled by the "city that care forgot- laissez faire" 'tude of the town. He quickly took up with the "old guard" GM clique lead by a New Orleanian native named Chappy. I do know his last name but I am not including it because my intent is not to knock him out of the closet. Goodman was happy as a clam in his new home town and never pretended to be anything he wasn't in the presence of his crowd of 30 or so. I'm still scratching my head just a bit over the Annabeth thing. I can only surmise that he was still getting great parts and felt marriage to a willing female would cement his image and the perfect life he had found.
Fast forward some 8 years later. He was cast to play the gay father of a family of kids in a flyover town proving that gay men are very warm and fuzzy and not to be side eyed. Had the series been a hit, his plan was to come out a few years later. It wasn't and he didn't.
Also, I learned first hand that Bryan Adams was gay back in the beginning of his career as the hot new MTV video star. Remember "Cuts Like A Knife?" I had him on a flight from New Orleans to NYC(along with his band). Please don't stone me for making a statement which will likely raise your hackles, but when there are 4 attractive young shapely flight attendants(remember this was the old days)working a flight, and a man doesn't even playfully flirt with one of them: HE'S Gay. This is just truth. I'm not saying a man has to ask for your number or tell you he finds you pretty, but any woman will tell you that the eye contact a gay male makes with a woman is completely different from that of a SM or a lesbian. Bryan was playfully engaged with his mates much of the time, and he gave us the same attention one would give a fresh turd.
Even the strongest family man who dearly loves his wife will give a pretty girl a winky smile. For instance Bruce Jenner. I was 100% positive he was either gay or trans until I started having him on flights. He was completely respectful of his wife, and never behaved in an untoward way. But he took every chance to come to the galley and chat one of us up. He clearly liked women.
It's just biology. So put Bryan and John on the official not alleged list.
My just can't believe: Bruce Willis
@R175: go away Kevin. No one believes you. And ditto for whoever said Bubba and Snuffleupagus.
Robert Crane, Raymond Burr, I think the dude who played Paul Drake opposite Burr. Kevin Clash.
I still can't believe Kelsey Grammar is a rightwingnut, but that's for another thread.
Kal Penn has done a really good job hiding it, hasn't he?
R25 will veer wasn't gay, but he WAS a communist.
Is there any truth to the rumour that the one who played Magnum swings both ways?
R175 Miss Kevin "Flaming Asshole" DuJan, is that you?
[quote]Is there any truth to the rumour that the one who played Magnum swings both ways?
The epitome of bi!
Bryan Adams isn't gay.
Most people in the arts are, at the very least, bisexual. They are creative, experimental and much more open to everything than the average joe, working 9-5 with the house and picket fence. Even many of the later group are bisexual and in denial about it. I have lived a traditional existence denying the fact that I am attracted to both men and women. When I reached my mid-30's and finally got the confidence to reach out to another woman. Best thing I ever did!! I love a good hard cock but love the intimacy and romance I get with women also. YOLO!!
most guys just well, LOVE COCK!
[quote]Most people in the arts are, at the very least, bisexual. They are creative, experimental and much more open to everything than the average joe, working 9-5 with the house and picket fence.
Someone sounds old.
R193 Geez, everyone knows he IS.
[quote][R193] Geez, everyone knows he IS.
All those people in your head know he is.
I was surprised by Matt Lucas
Thanks, frau at R198, for your contribution.
So, straight cunts like R193 and R198 are still around.
Still can't get it through their thick homophobic heads that no one wants them here, can they?
William Hopper played Paul Drake on [italic]Perry Mason[/italic]. There have been rumors for many years that he was gay. Long ago, I read that he fucked Richard Chamberlain.
For what it is worth, Bob Crane made videos of himself fucking women. His behavior was well-known in Hollywood, and his nickname was "Fast Bob".
Another for Gandhi. Who knew that little loined-clothed raisin longed to be held in strong teutonic arms? Then again, that's the universal fascist dream!
Patrick Cargill, the english actor of the Father Dear Father TV series and innumerable films like the Countess From Hong Kong was my first shock when young. The difference between his screen persona and the shy little elderly sweetheart looking lost at a gay party couldn't have been wider.
[quote]I was surprised by Matt Lucas
Matt Lucas being gay wasn't a surprise.
The real surprise is that David Walliams isn't!
[quote]Robert Conrad is only gay on the Datalounge, silly.
Robert Conrad said the most adorable thing about himself when he was being interviewed by Howard Stern around the time that awful remake of The WWW movie was made.
HS asked him why he didn't have a cameo in it.
He said now he was an old man. And then something along the lines that when he looked back at the old WWW tv shows, he'd think, "who's that guy with the nice tight ass? I'd fuck him".
Esai Morales is at least bi. I should know. It gets very thick, even though I turned him down.
Peter Lupus. what a hunk!
Peter Lupus has 'Body by Picasso'
How thick, R213?
Aye, papi, aye!
I heard Robert DeNiro is bisexual. Anyone else got info?
I had a HUGE crush on Elton John back in 1973 - I was 13 yrs old.
No, I never thought the soulful Bryan Adams was straight but who was he really singing to? Does anyone know?
OK, the handlebar mustache and the A WOMYN NEEDS A MAN LIKE A FISH NEEDS A BICYCLE muscle-t should have perhaps clued me in when she rocked up and ordered two quarter pounders with fries, but I did call her Sir.
Longtime NOLA people know John Goodman is gay. A college friend of mine was from there and said everyone knew.
Bryan Adams has always 'pinged' to me.
No one. I unintentionally pass for straight constantly and have always been this way. I'm a masculine gay guy, and I've meet so many other masculine homosexual men both closeted and out that no one surprises me.