Neck lifts are never as successful as facelifts. They always look... odd.
Don''t know about his neck, but years ago when I''d watch that soap when home sick, I found that his "acting" made Keanu Reeves look like John Gielgud in comparison.
He''s a ''mo, right?
What''s wrong with neck accessories?
Candy Bergen''s wrinkled neck and grand necklace collection
I love the eccentricity of soap stars. Ronn Moss, Eric Braeden, Drake Hogestyn to name a few. It is a wonderful escape.
Maybe he always has a chill?
He looks like an aging alien hybrid.
He looks ridiculous. And he always looks as if he''s posing.
[quote]And he always looks as if he''s posing.%0D\
That describes every soap actor who ever breathed.%0D
He''s always in a conflict, though: he loves the speedos. . .AND the scarves!
All I know is he is a horrible actor and he has never gotten any better. It is embarrassing to watch when he is over-acting. He looks like he was carved out of wood - not attractive at all.
Baby, Come Back!
Sadly, only a few of us will get that reference, R14.\
Moss is the male counterpart of the aging starlet. Pushing 60 and still trying to portray himself as young and dewy. It''s actually pretty creepy.
I looked on his website and there are recent pictures with him showing his neck. It looks fine. Unfortunately, I think those scarves are a fashion statement. A very bad one.
He''s just not happy about his neck.
As bad of an actor as he is, Ronn''s ex wife was worse.
His neck looks fine in photos on his website because they''re touched up.
The wig he''s been wearing lately gives me nightmares.
The guy who played Eric Forrester looked like a hamster. Brooke never aged and seemed to look younger every year. What else?
I think he thinks the scarves are cool.\
Whenever I watch the show these days, which is a rare occurrence, I''m always struck by how KKL (Brooke) is the only member of the original cast who looks decent. Susan Flannery looks like Jabba the Hut with a buzz cut, Hunter Tylo (who was one of my first crushes) has had way too much work done, John McCook and Winsor Harmon are bloated messes, and Ronn Moss is clearly afraid of growing old.
R3--Moss could endorse Lifestyle Lift--they always look good. ;-)
The fabulous Forresters are more like the cast of the Addams Family in real life! This is SO funny:
Clayton was the original Ken doll. He got beaten up on a Brazilian beach once by some guy he was trying to pick up.
Kimberline Brown fuck you, bitch!
[quote]Why does he always cover his neck?\
Oh, come on, OP. Like YOU would go on television flaunting your circumcision scar? Please.
From r20''s pic, I suspect he hasn''t gotten past the whole Bay City Rollers look from 1975.
I''d suck him off til the botox travelled from his face and out his cock.
I got the reference, r15! I even alluded to that in some other B&TB thread, and I only used to watch the soap when it first started.
I don''t understand the posters who say Brooke looks the same and criticize other cast members'' cosmetic surgery (is there any soap star that hasn''t gone under the knife?)%0D\
I don''t watch the soap anymore unles by accident, but about a year ago I was flipping through channels and thought another actress altogether was playing Brooke. I used to love her, so I stayed a while to compare actresses. Then all I could do was gasp (yes, the gay gasp) as I noticed those unmistakeable Brooke gestures comming through the Botox, tightened/stretched face, and Korean eyes. %0D\
I''m happy to report that I saw a scene a few weeks ago and it seems her surgery has somewhat settled.
Some people may say it''s because of anorexia
Why does anyone watch the show? Small cast. Everyone has slept with everyone multiple times. The only interesting character was Betty White as Stephanie''s mother.
Moss was always terrible at playing dramatic scenes. He can only do the smug thing.
The LA Fashion industry. Not ONE gay character. Hilarious. Hire Van Hansis as a flaming male model or something, bring on Jake Silberman as a cynical reporter covering the fashion industry -or make him a re-cast C.J. - and watch the ratings fly.
He looks way different than the way he looked as Ralph Mouth on Happy Days.
Have they had gay characters in the past?
Yes, r42. Jim J Bullock used to appear.
Isn''t he supposed to be a complete airhead. even dumber than that Cameron Matheson guy?
Why did they can Kyle Lowder? He was great with Moss and Adrienne Franz.\
Agree KKL is gorgeous.
In that link at R20, I first thought I was looking at Bea Arthur as Maude!
God''ll Get You For That, Ronn Moss!
I think Susan looks damn good for as sick as she has been in the few past years. %0D
Hunter Tylo looks like a fish. When she first started with the show, she was beautiful. Now, she looks like a disaster. She also seems to be "mental" as well. %0D
KKL has had work done but she looks pretty much like she did 20 years ago, just a slightly older version. The main issue I had with her was that long ass stringy hair of hers. She now sports a slightly more stylish hair style.%0D
Jack Wagner looks like walking death. When I watch old shows of him on Melrose, it is hard to believe that was the same person. He has aged horribly. He needs MAJOR work done on his face. It is sad that he looks older than than woman that is playing his mother. %0D
John McCook has gained some weight but he still is a nice looking silver daddy. %0D
Windsor has gained some weight but doesn't look bad. %0D
Ronn Moss has gotten some work done and looks better. For a while there he was competing with Jack Wagner on who could look the oldest. As long as they keep coloring Ronn's hair, he should be ok.
Lesley Anne Down is still a fragrant lady. I like her cougar persona.
Ronn does like his scarves. Have seen him at The Grove on several occasions and he always has a scarf around his neck. \
And Jack Wagner. Amazingly, he looks BETTER on camera than he does in real life. A few years ago when the Daytime Emmys were at the Kodak Theater, I hung outside watching the stars arrive, and then come out for smoke breaks during the ceremony.\
Jack Wagner showed up looking like his face was inflamed -- face very red and puffy to the point he was almost unrecognizable. But when I got home and watched the show on DVR, Jack looked exactly like he does on B&B.
I wish they would keep Rickkkkk and send Marcus off to Forrester International. They can also send Liam off to Spencer International. Has anyone seen the tons of YouTube videos that Clifton has made? And you guys think Franco is egotistical.\
I guess we''ll have to suffice with Ollie and Brandon Beamer as the resident hotties.
Brandon Beamer what a name
Can I just interrupt here for a moment to say that "The Young & the Restless" has gone totally off-the-rails crazy stupid?
Moss is married to a bunny? Whoa\
Clifton and his web channel is annoying.\
Y/R has jumped the shark. Where is Fonzie?
I forgot that Brooke Logan used to be a chemist, working in a lab where she would pour blue liquid into a tube while Ridge (or Eric) stood in the door opening and gazed at her adoringly.\
Also: Ron Deacon, Caroline''s rapist. They sure knew how to pick the worst actors in daytime.
I knew a guy that dated a girl who wore scarves all the time. Like she never took them off at all even while having sex. One night while spending the night at her apt. he decided to take the scarf off of her neck. \
So he waited until she had fallen asleep and slowly and quietly peeled it off. When it was off he noticed she had what looked like a huge red line or scar across her neck but before he could investigate further she awoke with panic in her eyes, she sat up and as she grabbed for the scarf around her neck he her fell off.\
This might be the same situation with Moss.
I knew a guy that dated a girl who wore scarves all the time. Like she never took them off at all even while having sex. One night while spending the night at her apt. he decided to take the scarf off of her neck.\
So he waited until she had fallen asleep and slowly and quietly peeled it off. When it was off he noticed she had what looked like a huge red line or scar across her neck but before he could investigate further she awoke with panic in her eyes, she sat up and as she grabbed for the scarf around her neck her head fell off.\
This might be the same situation with Moss.
Hunter Tylo used to be drop-dead gorgeous, and this is coming from a gay man. I remember when she first started on AMC under the name Deborah Morehart. She really was stunning. It''s a shame she couldn''t let herself age naturally and keep the injectors, fillers, and cosmetic surgery to a minimum.
R59. It was Belief (sp). The formula Brooke invented. I think it made cloth wrinkle free or am I dreaming?\
When is Ashley Jones coming back?
OK I''m a little embarrassed to admit this, but Jack Wagner was the first guy I JOed to. In the early 80s, he was a on a little-remembered cable soap called A New Day in Eden. He never wore a shirt. I was 13 and I thought he was the most beautiful man I''d ever seen.
R56- The show has been a mess for the past couple of years or so. The writing has just been absolutely horrendous.%0D\
R63- You are correct. Remember the Forresters tried to stick it to Brooke and have her sign over the rights to the formula that she created.
Young, Restless, Bold and Beautiful
What''s the final word on LeBlanc and Reikert? Have they ever dabbled in the mansex?
But I would love to know details!
This is a hysterically funny clip! I think Kelly was screaming because of what Hunter had done to her face.
I haven''t watched Y&R in ages but ran into it by accident last night on SoapNet. Maura West is on it now -- according to Wikipedia, she''ll be 39 in April & has had 5 children. Her real name must be Dorian Gray.
Actually r68, although I didn''t like her messing with her face, Hunter looked ok in that clip, except the fish lips. However, whatever else she did to her face after that messed it up. She can''t move the other parts of her face at all
r82, I lasted twice as long as Vana Tribbey! Mac Cory even proposed marriage to me.
r88, did John Randolph die trying to save you from a fire that Olive had started? I think not. Mine is the bigger legacy, bitch!
r89 You were cast because you were blonde and had a passing resemblance to Jackie.
...and r90, you were cast because you had a passing resemblance to National Velvet.
If it weren''t for Susan Flannery, Jack Wagner and Leslie Ann Down, there would be NO good acting talent on the show whatsoever. Sally Spectra''s loss was a major hit for the show. Katherine Kelly is serviceable as "Brooke" but Hunter Tylo has never been good and her off screen antics and facial "reconstruction" make her off screen perils look tame in comparison.\
This Brooke-fucks-her-way-through-the Forrester-bloodline routine was past its due date in 1989. The kid playing Thomas has no talent whatsoever and I suspect that it''s abundantly clear even to him that his presence is required only for how good he looks without a shirt on or with his pants halfway down his crack. The girl who plays Hope blows him off the screen whenever they are paired together, and she''s not exactly Cate Blanchett herself. Let''s hope the Bells dump this storyline as well as that Amber whore blackmailing-the-baby-daddy one. Hasn''t she done this about ninety times previously?
How about doing this one - Sheila returning?
I doubt we''ll see Sheila back on the show, R93. Kimberlin Brown, the actress who played her, had a massive falling out with her ex-friend Hunter Tylo years ago over some nasty personal matters.
But Kimberlin is a much better soap actress. I''d go so far as to call her a GREAT soap opera actress.
I''d love for Brown to come back but as r94 stated Tylo would probably nix it.\
Why not pull that hottie Sean Kanan from Y/R ? Bring back in AJ/KKL and AF for some kind of triangle. Yea it''s been done before but it would be better than baby daddy storyline.\
r92 you are spot on. I wonder if that Thomas dude looks at Moss and sees himself in 25 years. At least Drew Bell was tolerable. If Jaqueline McInnes would ever finish tha film, things might get more entertaining.
Yes R92, that is why her doing it again makes it just that much more painful. She didn''t learn her lesson when she tried her little scheme on Rick, and once Dollar Bill gets involved, she is going to pay dearly.%0D\
Amber was doing perfectly fine at Jackie M designing clothes until she got involved with stealing Forrester designs. She just never learns.
R92, well-written and you know your stuff; one quibble (and I''m sure you know) Brooke didn''t hook up with Eric until 1990; plus KKL really sold it with Winsor in the late 90s, which caused Steph to go over the deep end and win her first Emmy for B&B. So I think they got plenty of mileage out of it all.%0D\
It''s maybe five years too late to be doing Brooke/Thomas. (Tho that guy has one of the best bods I''ve seen since Shemar.)%0D\
I actually BOUGHT the stuff with Oliver; when she took her mask off and shook that head of hair I thought: brilliant, we were all expecting this to be Steffy.%0D\
OK bitches, this thread has made me start to DVR this and watch again. I haven''t seen it since Stephanie got conked on the noggin and lived among the homeless.
Marcus has been shipped off to Forrester International...yippee.\
Love the interaction between Wagner and Flannery. Where is annoying Agnus? Why oh why do they let Sarah Brown be a piece of wallpaper
R104, Steph went back to Skid Row -- this time with her memory -- last year and they had the SAME actress playing a homeless woman/extra (in a flashback and in present day.)%0D\
It was a trip and woke Steph up to the fact that there are people who don''t get the Ruthanne Owens happy ending.
The black homeless woman has now been rejuvenated and is the hostess at ''Daisy''s Inn'', a coffee gathering place, which they created to show the homeless women''s recapturing of a life off the streets. And she now has a love interest on the show.
You can blame it all on me.
r89 John Randolph may have died for you but Steve Frame came back to life for me.
off topic here, but my God, AW had successfully recast STEVE FREAKIN FRAME and then decidd to kill him off.%0D\
Had that show kept him and then gotten Jacquie back in 84 and if it had rebuilt the Matthews family it would have been so much better.%0D\
Whatever happened to that guy who played the second Steve?
Did anyone catch sneezing kitty during the Amber /Hope showdown?
Another episode Thomas the wooden pining over Brooke.
I''m so excited.\
WillAmber be exposed? Will Carl come through with the test?\
I''m crying in anticipation\
So Thomas and Dayzee new couple? I''m ok with anything to stop the Thomas/Brooke fiasco.
I started a thread on "Hope stroking Amber''s white Pussy while she waited for the pregnancy test" on the soapcentral boards. Needless to say, my thread was promptly deleted.
The anticipation. Did Carl mess up the test or not??\
KKL,SF and HT have submitted themselves as Best Actress nominees. JW and DD as Best Actor...RonnMoss did not submit himself.
I can''t believe no one has said this yet about Ron Moss'' penchant for scarves, but do you suppose he might be hiding ligature marks from auto-erotic asphyxiation? Maybe Viagra alone won''t do the trick. Who knows what he and his ex-Playboy Bunny wife are into.
R117, I watch The ''Bold and the Beautiful'' every day, and Ron Moss NEVER has his neck covered up, so I don''t know what you are talking about.%0D\
Just because you''ve seen him with a scarf when he''s out in society....%0D\
he NEVER covers his neck on The Bold and the Beautiful.
It was just a thought. I haven''t watched The Bold and the Beautiful in over 20 years when, of all people, my father did. I stumbled upon this thread and thought that the name rang a bell.%0D\
I didn''t mean to offend you, but you might consider that on the set of BB he can avail himself of good makeup artists, perhaps not something he can do in his everyday life off set.
Oh no. The opening credits are going to change on the 21st. I don''t like change. A rough version is on YouTube.\
It must be a very rough version because Ronn Moss is not listed and Adrienne Franz is listed as Andrea Evans. KKL is listed before SF. The Logan sisters are also listed before HT. I must say that the women do look beautiful as does the men. I suppose they are going the way of Y/R with rotating opening credits.\
I''m sure it will grow on me and the old version will always be on YouTube.
My dad watched the show 20 years ago as well, R19. That and "Loving."
I really wish Kimberlin Brown was still a player in soaps. She was one of the best.
Kimberlin is capable of the sweetest, most maternal performances. Look at the nurturing in this clip. She has such sweet life in her, and yet, is capable of playing the most depraved psychopaths. I miss three dimensional performers on soaps, and Kimber is one of the best in the biz.
Kelly Monaco looks really pretty in that clip, R123. Watching GH, I''ve always thought that she looks really young, but now I realize how much she''s aged over the years. She looks great, but she really looked like a 15-year-old on PC.\
Michael Easton looks as stupid as always, with that bad hair, bad voice, and dumb face.
B/B or Y/R better grab her.\
So will Patrick Duffy continue on the show with the big Dallas remake in the works?
Kelly really looked like she could be Kimberlin''s daughter. B&B or Y&R are mad not to try and lure Kelly on to play one of Sheila''s daughters.
The men of B/B were on The Talk last week. Ronn Moss was wearing an orange t shirt, hot pink scarf/ascot, knee high Ugg boots with fringe.
What happened to the cats in Amber''s doublewide?
r64, I''d love to know more about what you can remember about A New Day In Eden. Always hoped that some dude out there in cyberspace would have vids to post on YT. %0D\
It was Jack Wagner''s start as an actor, and his B&B co-star Susan Flannery was ironically Eden''s producer. %0D\
Btw, Douglas Marland had nothing nice to say about Jack Wagner later. Marland felt Wagner was a horrible actor, and couldn''t believe he went on after Eden to become one of soapdom''s hottest actors. Always wondered why the hate considering Marland''s penchant for his show''s studs (and his history of becoming involved with them). Did Wagner reject Marland? Or did a romance go sour?%0D\
Personally, I think the former. I think Jack Wagner is %100 hetero - the most hetero guy in the industry. And I love that he hasn''t done a thing to fix his face and is growing old ruggedly.
Growing old ruggedly = looks Asian.
He looks the same as on GH except older.
r132, looking Asian comes from too much plastic surgery.
Asians have plastic surgery to make themselves look white.\
Whites have plastic surgery to make themselves look asian.
Christopher Templeton, who played Jack Abbott''s long-time lovesick handicapped secretary Carole Robbins on Y&R, passed away on Feb 15 - she was 58.
r135 ... Indians bleach their dark skin to look white. %0D\
White people stain their skin to look dark. %0D\
It''s a wacky world ...
RIP Carole. When was the last time she was on YR?
Carole left Genoa City in 1993 with her sexy husband Skip (Todd Curtis). %0D\
Templeton had her own website - although she said she loved both Jacks, the pics shows she was more inclined to Lester''s Jack.
That is a Bell trick of keeping parents and their children both engaging as contemporary sexual objects for story purposes. On Y&R, William Bell rapidly aged Nick and Victoria to make them sexual counterparts to their still sexually active parents Victor and Nikki. Bradley Bell''s B&B is the most notorious, as Brooke, Ridge and Taylor should not have had such grown children so quickly to sexually complicate their stories. It''s all about aesthetics, not truth. %0D\
It''s creepy considering JW is older than LAD.%0D\
I see that Bell is not finished with the unrequited love of Thomas for Brooke. ick
Did $Bill push Amber?
I''m guessing tracheotomy scar.
KKL and SF are pre nominees for Best Actress for Emmy Awards, DD and JW for Best Actor.\
Oh please let KKL get it this year.
JW is six years younger than LAD, r143.
But he looks at least 20 years older, R147
KKL will not win unless Flannery retires.%0D\
It wouldn''t surprise me if one of the younger gals Kim Matula or Jaqueline McKinness doesn''t win younger actress.
So, when the hell is Kimber coming back?
With ratings on all soaps so dismal, someone needs to grab her.
If B&B or Y&R were ever cancelled, the coolest ending would be for Sheila to enter a big party with an AK-47 and mow them all down.
Well done with Amber falling over. I assume annoying Steffy will use this as leverage against $Bill.
Ronn Moss turned 59 yesterday -- March 4.\
Ronn truly is the male Lucci. Almost 60 and they write his character as if he''s 40.
Soap threads are not allowed. Why post on it when you know it''s wrong?