everyday Japanese people, specifically.\
They have every reason to hate us. Do they?
No. But they desire to triumph over us.%0D
You need to page Shinjukubaby%0D\
What is an "everyday" Japanese?%0D\
Japanese are really into blondes and eyefolds (an ex of mine made a fortune in Japan just for mud wrestling other blonde girls) but my Dad told me that during the war, Japanese snipers would specifically target the blond guys.\
There wasn''t a single blond guy left in his company after the first three months.
Hey, they attacked us OP
they are grateful for not having been annihilated, and allowed to preserve their ancient traditions, Royal family, Shintoism. et al.
Yes, we do.\
We truly do.
daughter of WWII vet
They despise us but not because we dropped two atom bombs on them and forced the Emperor to surrender. They despise us because they are deeply, secretly racist, much more racist than we could ever dream of being.
R7 You are Korean.
Japanese like Americans. They find them entertaining.
We cannot achieve so much with such small penis, but you American wow, penis so big, so big penis!
when you join hitler to wipe out western civilization, you open a door and you better be prepared for what comes out of it. japanese have never really gotten over their defeat and unlike germans have never really fessed up to what they tried to do. the us treated them pretty well considering. if the shoe had been on the other foot...\
they are very focused on their sicko fetishes and private life. infantile and obsessed individuals, and a collective economic underperformer for the last 20 years. stopped dead in their tracks despite so much potential. \
a very racist, coded, corrupt, nepotistic, blinkered society -- far less open than the US, for all its problems and faults.
"Secretly" racist? There is nothing secret about Japanese racism. Look at their treatment of guest workers.%0D
They''re even racist toward the Chinese. Their treatment of the Chinese during WWII ranks among the worst atrocities ever perpetrated by one nation against another.
[quote]Do the Japanese hate Americans?%0D\
ShinjukuBaby. Why then, in public transportation, do you get the impression they think foreigners smell?
Incredibly racist, but the chicks dig white guys.
And what good does that do Dataloungers, R19?
Putting aside whether that''s true or not, R18, do you hate people who smell?
Another self-hating Liberal? Fantastic.
Japanese are very paranoid about odors in general...
East Asians are envious of white people''s physical appearance. Every female and most male celebrities have had plastic surgeries to look more like white people. They actually use white mannequins in Japanese stores. And everyone knows East Asian cartoons where they make supposedly East Asian characters look like white people.
Japanese are hung up on black music, bellbottoms and Afros from the seventies, but don''t like black people much.\
They like to appropriate culture without the presence of the actual people who created it.
Racism is at the core of Japanese identity so strong is their tribal identification. Indeed, I think the ethnic cleansing of Ainu from Honshu was not actually that long ago as far as these things go.%0D\
But it less about superiority of the race than it is superiority of the group cohesion. And they don''t hate America for beating them, but they do want to beat America, this is a thought they always have. They still celebrate Pearl Harbor as a big victory and it is unrealistic of Americans to imagine that they wouldn''t.
The Japanese don''t mind white Americans, but hate African-Americans. I mean HATE them. Black people who go to Japan say they are openly racist towards blacks.
Japan LOOOOVES Americans and America. So much so, that they line up around the block to check out a new KFC. Every D-list celebrity can find work over there simply because they''re from the USA!
[italic]They''re even racist toward the Chinese.[/italic]\
Uh, no one should be loving China, hon.
r14 = angry about his Honda. \
I don''t know what you''re on about. The Yen is stronger than ever. The Japanese have been whipping everyone''s ass in the technological department. They make everything!
[quote]Every D-list celebrity can find work over there simply because they''re from the USA!%0D\
We should send them Spencer and Heidi.
do theylike Bai Ling?
OP, everybody hates Americans. And they have every reason to hate you. Wake up.
Best laugh I''ve had all night!
We should give them credit from ejecting Paris Hilton from the country. She didn''t even make it out of the airport.
Oh bullshit. Not everybody hates Americans. You don''t get out much.\
Russians and particularly people from India/Pakistan are far more unpopular.
[quote]They''re even racist toward the Chinese.\
What do you mean "even"? That is really strange wording.\
"Oh sure, they hate blacks -- and who doesn''t, really? -- but they hate CHINESE too! It doesn''t make sense, because they both have those weird eyelids and squiggly lines for an alphabet, so they should have TONS in common!"
I think hate is too strong a word. ''Annoying'' is how I would describe most Americans. Like a toddler in a restaurant. You are aware they are there, but kind of wish they weren''t.
It is ironic that the Japanese snipers targeted blond guys in WW2, because they sided with Nazi Germany, who worshiped the blond, blue eyed male.
Is R30 phoning from 1989? LOL.
Chill out, R38, what I meant is thew Japanese are both obviously within the Asian race. That''s obvious, huh? You on board now? Lovely.
Is it racism when the Japanese hate the Chinese?\
Is it racism when the Germans hate the French?
The blonde boys may have just been easier to spot.
More about the blond(e) obsession, please.
They are extremely ethnocentric and feel they are culturally and biologically superior to all others. Americans amuse them, but they need us economically. They especially look down on (and thus are hated) by the Chinese and Koreans. Not to mention the rape of Nanking.
When the war was over, we should have killed the oldest male child in every Japanese family, ending with the Emperor. \
Just to make a point that if you attack us, after we kick your ass, we want you to remember it for a long time.
They hate us for our freedom!
The strong yen is actually very bad for their economy because they''re a major exporting nation. Strong yen means Japanese goods are more expensive abroad. Kind of like the opposite of cheap Chinese goods (helped in part by their low valued currency).
My dear father, a WW2 veteran always maintained that the Nazis were bad but the Japanese were worse. Nazis were methodic in their killings.The Japanese were cruel beyond belief and delighted in sick unending torture. Captured Americans were literally flayed alive then rubbed with salt. Hands held over red hot coal till they roasted and genitals chewed off by caged starved rats....All to the delight of Japanese solders. My father hated the Japanese.
That is very disturbing, R51. Where those common practices?
Ugh R51, that sounds like those manga middle aged Japanese men read on the bullet train to Tokyo.
They probably hate American porn. It wouldn''t be weird enough for them.
Yeah, the Germans quickly killed people but didn''t torture them. The Japanese tortured their prisoners in unimaginable ways before killing them. The Holocaust was horrible, but US soldiers would have prefered a Zyclon B shower over the horrors suffered as a prisoner of the Japanese. \
BTW, the Japanese often filmed the torture of prisoners.
[quote]Yeah, the Germans quickly killed people but didn''t torture them.%0D\
You''re a moron.
The whole Pacific Theater was psycho. They mutilated us and we mutilated them. The only difference, as I said, was the blond boys.\
Europe was just a tad better -- there wasn''t the racist anti-Japanese angle -- but my uncle came home from there and was never the same, not from witnessing Nazi atrocities, although there were plenty, but from seeing what his brother Americans were capable of inflicting -- even on civilians.\
The following article tells some stories of what happened there to contrast John McCain''s Vietnam experience, which is also informative.
"Where those common practices?"\
From what I understand all American prisoners were subject to unspeakable torture. The severity depended on the sadistic streak in the captors. My father said that American solders were less scared of German capture then Japanese capture. He reported that American solders in the pacific were issued cyanide capsules to ingest in case of imminent capture. He also said that unlike American solders captured by the Germans He never once witnessed a returning former Japanese prisoner...very sad.
I read a book about the rape of Nanking which talked about the Japanese treatment of the Chinese prior to the worst of what happened there. The Japanese used live Chinese for bayonet practice. Seriously. And they took pictures of it and it ran in their newspapers. The book contained pictures of the dead Chinese with bayonets in them. The Japanese say they were unaware of the atrocities of the Japanese military and the author mentioned the pictures in their newspapers as proof that the Japanese knew Chinese were used for bayonet practice. A Nazi stationed in Nanking who was horrified by what the Japanese were doing to the Chinese ended up helping to save some of them. The book is by Iris Chang.
Iris Chang wrote a good book...\
That whole situation was weird -- Nazis were stuffing people in camps and creating the Holocaust while the Japanese were slaughtering the Chinese (and Filipinos and the people on New Guinea and all the islands), yet the Germans in Japan or with the Japanese in China were horrified by Nanking, and the Japanese who were told by the Nazis to start rounding up the Jews in their area of operations just ignored the order.
There was a Godzilla movie made in the ''90s that was condemned for it''s virulent anti-Americanism. I seem to recall there was a scene where Godzilla destroyed the USS Arizona memorial and the US vets gathered there.
Do the Japanese hate Americans? Is there any nationality that DOESN''T hate Americans?%0D\
[quote]When the war was over, we should have killed the oldest male child in every Japanese family\
After all, Nazis and Japanese are much nicer bunch of people than you.
The Japanese didn''t believe they were committing atrocities because they genuinely didn''t believe non-Japanese to be human. They as much said so when atrocities in China were investigated. Japanese soldiers flat out said, "Chinese are inhuman."
R58, thank you for the response. That is horrific.\
R64, I am surprised to hear that. They are practically the same.
My father was a POW in a German camp from 1943 until the end of the war. His diary (that he even had one) somewhat confirms what R58 says.
A former Japanese Army officer who served in China, Uno Shintaro, stated:\
The major means of getting intelligence was to extract information by interrogating prisoners. Torture was an unavoidable necessity. Murdering and burying them follows naturally. You do it so you won''t be found out. I believed and acted this way because I was convinced of what I was doing. We carried out our duty as instructed by our masters. We did it for the sake of our country. From our filial obligation to our ancestors. On the battlefield, we never really considered the Chinese humans. When you''re winning, the losers look really miserable. We concluded that the Yamato [i.e., Japanese] race was superior.
They also loathe black people, which is funny because they try so hard to emulate our style and culture.
A neighbor of mine when I was growing up was a POW of the Germans. He was made the personal chef to an officer on a German submarine. He said he was treated very well and became friends with the officer. His greatest fear was that he would be torpedoed by an American ship. His greatest sadness about his capture was that he was on a sub that might kill fellow Americans. He didn''t want to die at the hands of his own people and he didn''t want to be involved in the killing of any of his own people.
When did they release him R69?
most people hate you...you''re that loud weird fat kid that wont shut up about god.
R71, lay off the bong.
The second "battle Royale" movie is so anti-American in tone, even Hugo Chavez would reject it. It''s actually kind of funny watching the villain do a rant about American military injustices when he''s putting explosive collars on the necks of Japanese teens to blow their heads off.
They are humiliated they lost a war to such selfish and stupid people. I mean the US in 1940 had many people living subsistence or eating dirt. They think it''s only due to technology, though, so they have made it their business not to get behind in technology.%0D\
But "hate"? No. They think too little of us to hate us.
"What Country Likes the U.S. the best?"\
"What country is Most (or Least) Liked of All the Countries in the World?"
But aren''t the Japanese obsessed with Americana and places like McDonald''s and our crappy popular culture?
Are you Japanese r27? I''m guessing not. Anyway, there aren''t many black people in Japan, but there are so many many Japanese emulating blacks embracing everything from hip hop culture to faux dread locks.
Please post about your experiences in Japan. Or the experiences of people you know who have been to Japan.
Hey Cristoforo Colombo, you spelled your own name wrong. How do you think Silvio Berlusconi is looked at these days? \
Like the other poster, you don''t get out much. Other nations are coming up and throwing their weight around. Their executives (invariably male except for a few powerful mens'' daughters) are open about picking up prostitutes in public places, like to smoke everywhere, brazenly pay bribes, and treat women with hardcore contempt. They get folks rubbed out or imprisoned who interfere with their business deals.\
When these people take over, the world and you will miss America. It really wasn''t that bad.
My high school had an exchange program with an exclusive private school in Kyoto. The Japanese kids who came every year who were very into America I was told were considered black sheep back home. It was more a thing with the girls, who were very into learning perfect English so they could get jobs overseas. I remember one kid who called himself Georgie - after George HW Bush. He was a weird one.\
Then again, think of white guys who are really into manga and anime and all that stuff - probably the same thing. Japanophiles have always given me the creeps.
What the Japanese do not hate about America is the vulgarity and superficiality that so offends Europeans. The Japanese love that shit.%0D
Free for the hirrs! Godzilla apploaches!
Empless, er, I mean Empress Michiko
R80, I''d say that the latter are even more ridiculous. I just do not understand it.
Japanese are laboriously polite, but a whiff of disdain hangs around their encounters with foreigners. Women speak far, far better English than men, but are relegated to professions like barmaid and laundress so men can show they are boss with second-rate English.\
In an understaffed, pump-yer-own-gas, DIY America, the numbers of Japanese people doing service make-work comes as a shock. Packages are prepared with many layers of beautiful paper and ribbons. Too many workers inflate the price of everything on offer. \
Japan declares the superiority of the Japanese esthetic, but Tokyo is an ugly city. Kyoto, the showplace Japanese town, saw the demolition of 40,000 traditional wooden houses in the 1990s. Japanese are now very puzzled why no tourists want to come to pricey, fusspot, non-preserving Japan. \
On the plus side, Japan is safe, public transportation is great, the food is good, and the vibe can be kooky and fun. Any sexual fetish can be accommodated there too.
How ya like me Shinjuku
[quote]Iris Chang wrote a good book...%0D\
She also committed suicide. "Chang was also reportedly deeply disturbed by much of the subject matter of her research. Her work in Nanjing left her physically weak, according to one of her co-researchers."%0D\
"Oh yes, I''m turning Japanese, I really think so".
I just had dinner at Kyubey, so right now Japan is the best place on earth to me.
OP is likely AYP or the incessant anti-American Brit troll who starts at least one of these "They should hate us, right?" threads.
That''s true, R85, and there were some episodes of mental breakdown in college which got glossed over in the histories many wrote after she killed herself.\
I think she got too into her work, always had to be number 1, was crippled by Caucasian dosages of anti-depressants and other mood altering drugs, and this is always used against her history of Nanking, which I think is unfair.
I''m a Japanese, an everyday Japanese...\
I didn''t know that "everyday" can be used as adjective, like..."I''m an everyday Japanese." I had no idea. \
The answer is NO. OP There''s no hate emotion toward Americans in Japan.
I lived in Japan and now live in Korea. It''s amazing that at one time in my life I thought all Asians were the same (the mentality). I imagine they feel the same about whitey.\
My Grandparents hate the Japanese. Loathe them. They are definitely perceived as cruel. It also amazes me the hatred Koreans have for the Japanese. I had a student today tell me the Japanese are ''monkeys''. I informed him that Korean and Japanese dna is almost identical. \
Koreans can be pushy, aggressive and petty but I have almost come to prefer that to the Japanese ''veil'' of politeness. The Japanese are however, far cooler and socially developed.\
Btw, the Japanese are not enamoured with Americans. Like most Asians they think they are sloppy, slobby idiots. But they will take from American culture what they think is cool. It has nothing to do with the country itself. If Germany became cool, they would steal from Germany. They are not interested in the background behind what they like (eg ''black culture'').
Just to clarify, R93, OP''s use of "everyday" is unusual. Most American English speakers would use "ordinary" in this context.
Are there a lot of Brits on Datalounge(I know about ayb)?
I live in the East Village (NYC) which is becoming Japantown. A lot of them are perfectly nice, but yes there is a disdainful attitude that drives me nuts.
R98, that is one of the greatest things ever.
R99, please describe this attitude. Subtleties and all.
Not quite getting it, I guess.
They look you up and down, R101, and sneer. Also, their epicanthal folds quiver gently.
[quote]Oh bullshit. Not everybody hates Americans. You don''t get out much.\
You are seriously deluded to think that. Here in Canada, Americans are despised so much it''s referred to as our national pasttime.
Canada''s national bird is the loon. Just saying.
I could spend hours on Engrish, a site devoted to how the Japanese love of English words and how they put them in the most mangled grammar imginable on clothing, food packaging, buildings, you name it.
I have taught East Asian students for years.%0D\
The Chinese: Very polite, committed, and very serious in their attitude with respect to learning. When I went to China, one of my students told me later he felt embarassed he did not ask me to stay with his family. When I gently reminded him that I had not seen him in some time, he then apologized for that. I cannot say enough good things about them.%0D\
The Koreans: Yes, they are agressive--they will chase you down the hallways to find out how to get a better grade--but there is also a kindness about them I have noticed. They also have a sense of humor if you catch them off guard.%0D\
The Japanese: I can''t quite put my finger on it...condescending? Other teachers I have met have noticed the same thing. They do not have the sincerity of the Chinese, nor the drive of the Koreans. One of my colleagues once joked "The only difference with the Japanese and the French is that the latter have better food." Lol. Maybe that''s it.
Engrish is admittedly very funny.
R106, the French also have nude beaches.
The Japanese are just jealous of the large pieces of land we own and our large houses.
r38 you took the words right out of my mouth.
A Japanese salary man encounters an African American woman at a Tokyo cafe:
As for the "odor" thing, some Japanese say Americans smell like baby vomit, presumably from all the dairy products we consume.\
Of course, it''s just another opportunity for them to feel good about themselves.\
I think R106 might be on to something. Maybe the Japanese are the French of Asia, so convinced of their superiority that they become something of a running joke.
I read a story in the NYT about how KFC is the preferred holiday meal in Japan. The company even markets their bucket o'' chicken as a great holiday feast.
What really puts me off are the agressive packs of Jap tourists that come to the U.S. They will fucking run you over without giving it a second thought.\
And I hate their whole culture of "deep shame", hari kari and "ancestors". I find it to be very backward, arcane and camp. Japanese girls have to be the weirdest, dizziest bitches in the world.
Do they still love "Anne of Green Gables" and Canada in general?
R114, that''s one of the funniest things I''ve ever seen!
the Japs attacked us first remember? Oh is everything America does contemptable?
I can''t believe that New Yorkers are complaining about people with disdainful attitudes. Haaaaa haaaaaa, what are you jealous?
Wait, the japanese love ann of green gables?!
Oh hardcore R123, at least they did in the 90s -- they even opened a "Anne of Green Gables Land" in Japan, but I don''t know if it is still there.\
But every summer, they would overrun the island...
They''re just angry that we don''t eroticize cephalopods.
gee, I don''t know.
Residents and descendants of Nagasaki, Hiroshima
For a minute I felt bad for the Japanese and then this reminded me why I don''t need to give a fuck about them. %0D\
[quote]The Japanese don''t mind white Americans, but hate African-Americans. I mean HATE them. Black people who go to Japan say they are openly racist towards blacks.%0D\
I saw a black guy on CNN who was being interviewed from Japan yesterday, he looked perfectly comfortable there but I can''t imagine why he''d choose Japan to study.
R127, how do you know if that''s really true? It could be just a lie.
The bigotry towards blacks is not limited to Japan. Pretty much all of Asia is openly bigoted towards blacks.
How about all the world,R129?
Who doesn''t hate the Americans?
[italic]the Japs attacked us first remember?[/italic]\
Who knew that dead people could post from beyond the grave? Yes, "Japs". Good one. Tell us about the "Niggers" next.
No way, R33. They''re too scary and evil.
From what I have heard (anecdotally) is that the Japanese saw how the black American troops were treated by the Army and by the US itself, so were insulted to be under occupation by people not even respected by their own country.
Why do we always subscribe to this nonsense of an entire group of people hating another entire group of people? It''s such bullshit.\
Like everywhere else on the planet, there are assholes and there are good people. We''re talking about millions and millions of people. How ridiculous to assume anything.
My neighbor''s daughter recently returned from Japan and felt she was starred at in a disapproving way everywhere she went. She is 23 years old, thin with dark hair and pale skin
I''m looking for a Japanese top to fuck me good
A good friend of mine worked in Japan off-and-on several years ago. She''s really outgoing, but she seemed to get frustrated without how reserved they are. It got to the point where she felt shunned, which is sad because she''s smart, funny, beautiful, and great to be around.
Ummm pretty much everybody hates Americans. Something to do with starting wars for no good reason or something.
The whole of Japan is a pure invention.
Whereas the Japanese had an excellent reason, r141?
[quote]the Japanese had an excellent reason\
They had the usual reason -- oil. We wouldn''t let them have any
[quote]They had the usual reason -- oil. We wouldn''t let them have any\
The US placed an embargo on oil sales to Japan. They weren''t prevented from buying oil elsewhere.\
Nor did they need to start a war to get it. Keep in mind that the embargo was a response to Japanese expansion by conquest in Asia. Japan wasn''t a nation of peace by any means.
I didn''t know anyone under the age of 90 still called them "Japs."
Americans hate Americans; no reason for anyone else to.
''I didn''t know anyone under the age of 90 still called them "Japs."''\
I call them *Hello Kitties*.
The Japanese always aspired to be like the Americans. They wanted to be the Imperalists and whites of the east. They trusted us and we stabbed them in the back. %0D\
Well, they took the World Cup from us.%0D\
I used to hate a JAP, but then I found out that Gwyneth''s mother is a gentile--so technically she''s not Jewish.
[quote]I saw a black guy on CNN who was being interviewed from Japan yesterday, he looked perfectly comfortable there but I can''t imagine why he''d choose Japan to study.%0D\
He''s probably gettting tons of pussy. I heard some Japanese girls are really fascinated by big black cock.
The World from Berlin:\
''The US Is Holding the Whole World Hostage''\
With no solution to the US debt crisis in sight, the rest of the world is starting to get nervous. German commentators urge congressional leaders to get their act together. A US default would have catastrophic consequences, they warn
They hate the whole nuclear death-industry thing: GE''s finest reactors included.
The Japanese ordered those GE reactors from the US; don''t tell me they were too ignorant to know better. The Japanese also eat KFC, McDonald''s, wear fake dreads and worship Michael Jackson.\
HONOLULU July 18, 2011 (AP)
For the first time, one of the most traditional and symbolic of Japan's art forms, the tea ceremony, is due to be performed at the USS Arizona Memorial in Pearl Harbor.
The event this week is being planned to honor Americans who died when Japan attacked Hawaii on Dec. 7, 1941. Organizers hope it will serve as a gesture of reconciliation between two nations that once fought fiercely, but which now are close allies.
Genshitsu Sen, the 88-year-old grand tea master of the Urasenke School of Tea %E2%80%94 which is the largest of the three schools of Japanese tea ceremony %E2%80%94 is due to perform the ancient ritual Tuesday morning within the white structure that sits above the sunken battleship.
Two Pearl Harbor survivors are expected to participate, along with the commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, Adm. Patrick Walsh. Yoshihiko Kamo, the Japanese consul general in Honolulu, is also due to attend.
"This goes a long way, I think, in reminding people that that terrible war is over and these two countries have been at peace and allies for the last 65 years," said Daniel Martinez, the National Park Service's chief historian for the memorial. "What you're seeing is two nations that have come full circle."
During a Japanese tea ceremony, the person performing the ritual will carefully mix hot water with green tea in a ceramic bowl and offer the drink to the assembled guests. The bowls, lacquer tea containers, wooden spoons and other implements used to prepare the tea are often selected to represent the seasons %E2%80%94spring, summer, autumn, and winter.
Sen, who served in the Japanese naval air force during World War II, is the 15th generation of his family to lead Urasenke, which dates to the 1600s. Urasenke is the largest of the three schools of traditional tea ceremony.
The impetus for Tuesday's event is the 60th anniversary of the Urasenke school's Hawaii chapter. Jean Ariyoshi, the wife of former Hawaii Gov. George Ariyoshi, originated the idea of having it at the Arizona memorial.
Martinez said the ceremony was akin to other examples of U.S.-Japanese reconciliation, including when the U.S. ambassador to Japan last year attended an annual ceremony remembering the bombing of Hiroshima.
Martinez said the park service, which runs the memorial and the Pearl Harbor visitors center, has been reaching out to survivors of the attack to explain what is taking place.
"We know this matters to them. After all, it's their history of that time period and we are very, very careful in making sure that they are briefed and informed of the activity," Martinez said.
Some veterans of the war have been able to forgive the attack, but others haven't, Martinez said, and it's important to understand both perspectives.
Sen lived in Hawaii in 1952, when he lectured at and took courses at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. He has performed tea ceremony for former First Lady Laura Bush, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, and former U.S. Vice President Al Gore, among other notables.
[quote] the Urasenke School of Tea " which is the largest of the three schools of Japanese tea ceremony " \
[quote]During a Japanese tea ceremony, the person performing the ritual will carefully mix hot water with green tea in a ceramic bowl and offer the drink to the assembled guests. The bowls, lacquer tea containers, wooden spoons and other implements used to prepare the tea are often selected to represent the seasons "spring, summer, autumn, and winter.\
[quote]it''s important to understand both perspectives.\
Okay, they attacked us. We defended ourselves and eventually went on the offensive because the Japanese didn''t stop. So...what''s the other perspective.
I was puzzled as to why so many Americans take offence to the Japanese being reserved. But then, most Americans I know are like big, goofy labradors. They leap all over you, baying their heads off, and expect your total attention while they are in the room. \
You either want to pet them, or kick them in the balls.
Japanese don''t hate America. Republicans do.
The Japanese have some weird sex shit. What''s up with the fascination for dumb, giggling schoolgirls?
Many of our DL posters should move to Japan, R160; they''d be very popular.
The Japanese conducted germ warfare experiments on live human subjects in Manchuria during WWII. They killed over half a million Chinese and Korean. The experiments were extremely sadistic including vivisection. See wikipedia entry on Japanese Army Unit 731:
Japan is a nation highly stratified based on gender, age, education level, employment, and a whole lot of other factors. As a foreigner, you have no place in that hierarchy and you are, accordingly, treated with a certain level of distrust. Any society like that which was also highly isolated until maybe 100-150 years ago is like a clan: if you are not born into it, you''ll always be an outsider.
What really happened to [Iris] Chang? Although there is little doubt that she pulled the trigger, she had been an extremely strong person whose sad end would a year earlier have seemed utterly out of character to those who knew her best. Kamen does little to illuminate the mystery. Part of the problem is that, true to one of the less felicitous traditions of New Journalism, Kamen conducts much of the explication in the first person singular. Too often the approach is, "This is what happened to me," rather than "These are the facts." While it is understandable that Kamen, as a friend of Chang's, might be tempted to take this approach, it proves in her hands, as in the hands of so many second-rank American journalists, a lazy and incurious writer's way of avoiding the time-consuming research needed to resolve contentious issues.
(Sorry -- quote got cut):
Towards the end Chang was evidently suffering serious psychological problems (in one of her suicide notes she described herself as "a wild-eyed wreck"). Instead of providing as impartial as possible an assessment of these problems, Finding Iris Chang treats us to a confused account in which Kamen tries to equate her own experience of psychological illness with Chang's. The unstated assumption is that the problems arose from similarly autonomous causes, which of course would be highly unlikely in any circumstances let alone in the uniquely Orwellian world in which Chang found herself.
From what little factual information Kamen provides, Chang's problems seem to have a world away from Kamen's. For a start Chang seems to have had no pre-history of illness: her problems emerged suddenly only in her final months.
Chang was used to stress and generally thrived on it. The question is whether the external pressures increased qualitatively or quantitatively towards the end. Kamen makes little attempt to address this. Kamen emphasizes how much Chang had been affected by interviews with Bataan Death March survivors. But such interviews could hardly have been more distressing than her mid-1990s interviews about the even more appalling atrocities committed at Nanjing.
Kamen also suggests that Chang's punishing work schedule may have been a factor. But again this seems less than convincing. After all from earliest childhood Chang had been an overachiever (she had written her first mystery story at the age of four!) and she was used to pushing herself to the limit. Another factor Kamen mentions is that Chang had been frightened by the harassment efforts of ostensible Japanese "rightists" -- but again this was nothing new. As far back as 1998, she had been quoted as saying, "not a week goes by when I am not harrassed by a vicious [Japanese] right wing group."
Kamen treats Chang's complaints of being followed and watched as evidence merely of acute paranoia. This surely puts the emphasis in the wrong place. While we will probably never know the truth, what surely cannot be denied is that, even by Chang's own daring previous standards, the Bataan book was a work apart in the degree to which she was baiting formidable geopolitical interests. In highlighting the fact that the Bataan survivors had never received more than derisory compensation she was provoking apoplexy not only in Tokyo but perhaps even more so in Washington, where, in the name of good U.S.-Japan relations, the State Department has long been even more fanatically hostile than the Japanese establishment in slapping down the Bataan survivors' quest for justice. In essence Chang was poking a stick in the eyes of two of the world's most powerful governments at once.
As Kamen records, some Bataan survivors have speculated that Chang's death was not a suicide. All the evidence, however, seems to suggest that this goes too far. The real question is whether new forms of coercion were instigated against Chang in her final months. What is clear is that the pressures in the field are enormous and few Westerners stay long without being relieved of their truth ethic. Either that or they voluntarily sideline themselves in bland peripheral aspects of the subject. Chang retained her Western truth ethic to the end -- and kept her gaze unflinchingly on the center of the target.
Chang seems to have believed that her real enemies resided in Washington not Tokyo. As she pointed out, the Bush administration was desperate to ingratiate itself with Tokyo in its efforts to retain at least nominal Japanese support for the Iraq war. Was the U.S. government watching Chang at the end? In truth, because of a legal ban on spying on U.S. citizens, Washington tends to "outsource" such work to other nations. So the real question comes back to what Tokyo was doing. Given the size of the stakes and the fact that the Bush administration would almost certainly turn a blind eye, it is hard to see how the Japanese government would not have spied on her.
Are you Korean? Because it's always Koreans who start this kind of thread on Internet!! Soo annoying.
Despite what some posters are claiming, surveys show that the US remains the most admired country in the world.
Go, Speed! Go!
I've always thought that Japanese culture is wonderful. Ive always wanted to go to Japan but I've been told that Americans (white peeps like myself) are treated with distaste. On the other hand I've been told by people who say they have been (very few people) that its much better than America. I automaticly disregard the perverse things some people say about the women there (though it would be pretty awesome if it were true). Im mostly interested in how i would be treated if i went. If anyone knows...
FUCKING RIGHT WE DO!!!
As the years pass on, few know the atrocities the Japanese committed before and during WW2.
Japs that do, understand why we melted their people with atomic bombs.
Japan was worse than Germany and Italy together.
I love every single one of you Americans. I was about to say, "Except for William Shatner", then I remembered... he's Canadian! So, I do love you all.
I think hate is too strong a word. After more than 10 years I don't notice black people being treated any more poorly than white non-Japanese people. You get the constant stares and people not wanting to sit next to you on the train simply because you're not Japanese.
Is it annoying? Yes, after a while. Though in the summer, I'm happy not to have someone squeeze in beside me on the train.
No matter how well you speak or write the language, or how long you live here, or even once you have permanent residency, you are ALWAYS the outsider. Thats the part I find most annoying, but you can't change the mind-set of 250 million people that easily.
Japanese people don't love OR hate American culture in its entirety. Like most things we think of as being Japanese (kanji, and much of the culture/food) it was lifted from China because "they liked it".
I'm not American, but I know plenty of Americans that are loud and obnoxious, refusing to learn ANY Japanese and expecting Japan to change to suit THEM, rather than the other way around. Typical stereotypical "American" behavior.
I was once having a conversation with an older gent about the war, and he said quite honestly "they needed Hiroshima and Nakasaki to happen".
And yes, Anne of Green Gables is still popular. Ugh.
"I'm not American, but I know plenty of Americans that are loud and obnoxious, refusing to learn ANY Japanese and expecting Japan to change to suit THEM, rather than the other way around. Typical stereotypical "American" behavior."
More America-bashing ... sigh (clue: "typical" stereotypical)
ALL Canadians, Brits, etc. eagerly learn Japanese of course ... you NEVER see other native English speakers insisting the "foreign" person understand English.
I'm an American citizen, and living in a redneck state i can say without remorse that the most of the people out here are just racist and half retarded. Im sick of hearing people say "learn english or go home" and seeing it on bumper stickers everyday makes me feel more and more like i should move to canada. We are a melting pot country of diverse cultures and languages. Why is it that everyone is still racist? Im white, ive been called a cracker plenty of times, or been made fun of cause i burn easily. Does it offend me? not a bit, in fact i think it is kinda funny that i get sunburned so fast and that i seem to not be able to jump that high lol. Steriotypes always have truth behind them. Why cant everyone just accept our flaws as a whole?
As far as america goes, to all you who think u are better cause u were born in america, let me put things in perspective for you. We are way down the list in terms of academics, most of the world hates us because we feel as though we are better than everyone else and can travel to some other country and do whatever the fuck we want. This steriotype is proved true by people who treat people from other countries poorly just because they dont speak english. Again, I'm an American, but im sick of this backward twisted country and its inability to make up its mind. Half the country is intolerant, the other half only tolerates. I agree with the rest of the world, Americans are "typicly" stuborn, self centered arogant pricks with no common sense or remorse. So, the next time you catch yourself saying "speak english" just remember thats why we are hated.
Fukishima will be the end game of Japan, unfortunately. I have nothing against the modern-day Japanese, and my family had fought them in WWll, but I cannot hate on people that were not alive fifty years ago.
I can blame the Japanese for Fukishima, however, and the endless lying and obstruction almost looks like suicide to me. The Royal family of Japan is suffering radiation sickness symptoms, and it looks as if they have all given up hope. The Japanese have zero concern for its children. No one is contesting the amounts of radiation in the food and milk. Children are dying in that country.
This whole notion of "saving face" will kill off that entire race of people. It's crazy. However, that's their problem, and we need to be concerned about our health risks from Fukishima. Japan doesn't care about us, clearly, and radiation is being registered all over America. The Pacific Northwest has suffered unprecedented rates of miscarriages and birth defects. This is all being covered up.
Fukishima will be worse than Chernobyl, and NO ONE is talking about it!
[quote]The Royal family of Japan is suffering radiation sickness symptoms
The Imperial Family of Japan have been coming down with serious illness since Fukishima. They are ingesting beef and mushrooms (which absorb radiation) in areas of Japan that test high in Fukishima radiation. to their credit, they have not left their people and fled the country however, they are leading their countryfolk down the path of death in denial of radiation.
It is now known that Chernobyl has been responsible for the deaths of at least one million people, worldwide. This is not the errant speculation of tin-hat theorists, these are the numbers presented by respected scientists, most of whom are European, of course. The American press still refuses most coverage of radiation events and nuclear disasters.
We will never be told of the dangers of Fukishima, ever, so forget about being forewarned or cared about or given adequate health care. It won't happen. The Japanese have a hari-kari attitude about death but we aren't even being informed.
We need to demand that our media is honest and investigates the catastrophy of Fukishima.
Hey r176, i said I knew plenty of Americans that were that way. I didn't say all of them.
Do try to keep up. There's also a difference between traveling to a place and living somewhere for over 10 years.
[quote]Here in Canada, Americans are despised so much it's referred to as our national pasttime.
Yet American culture is ALL you consume. Take the TV everyone watches, for example. How many Canadian shows do you watch?
[quote]It also amazes me the hatred Koreans have for the Japanese.
Gangnam style was a hit everywhere but Japan.
NEWSFLASH! There is not a single society in the history of the earth that was or is not racist and/or prejudiced against some group. EVERY human being is racist or prejudiced to some degree and those who claim they are not are LIARS.
r186 = Turning Japanese
Look what they did to the 787.
They raped Nanking, which was hard because all gooks look alike so the Japs and the Chinks couldn't tell which one was to be raped and which one was to rape.
What did the AIDS infested homo say when he saw the white man?
Let's infect him
What did the AIDS infested homo say when he saw the black man?
WOW...Let's infected him
What did the AIDS infested homo say when he saw the yellow man?
Where is it? Why bother.