I have mixed feelings. I work for a nationwide corp and most of us are working from home since Covid but we got the word that we're expected 3 days a week starting in June. I know there are positives about being back in an interactive office setting, yet I am conjuring up all the shit I didn't have to worry about for the past several years: cost of gas, clean , ironed clothes, etc.
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by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 4, 2024 3:35 AM |
I prefer working from the office. It is more structured and you can communicate better in person. I'm surprised your company took this long to require some work from office days. My employer mandated 2 days a week in the office since September 2022. I typically go 3-4 days a week. Also we are allowed to dress business casual, unless we have a management meeting. On days I know there will be few if any people in the office I dress in khakis or jeans. The only real drawback is of course the commute, but I take the subway so outside of the additional expense for train fare it's not an imposition.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | May 3, 2024 12:04 AM |
I don't have the patience for the WFO anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 3, 2024 12:10 AM |
HEY WORKIN HARD OR HARDLY WORKIN?
BOY HOW ABOUT THAT WEATHER HUH?
GOT ANY FUN PLANS THIS WEEKEND?
BOY WE'RE HAVING SOME WEATHER!
YOU SEE THAT THING ON TV LAST NIGHT? BOY THAT WAS SOMETHIN!
YOU SEE THE PICTURES OF MY VACATION YET?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 3, 2024 12:36 AM |
In theory I'm much more productive in the office. Unfortunately I've got two loudmouths seated next to me who a. don't have fuckall to do; b. gossip with each other for HOURS.
The days they're not in are truly heaven.
And NYC transit sucks balls worse than ever. Otherwise it's tolerable.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | May 3, 2024 12:38 AM |
We are mandated 2.5 days a week in the office so I go in 2 days one week, 3 the next and rotate. We are in a shiny, brand new office building that was in the works almost a decade before COVID so we have to justify the expense somehow.
I like going in. The old office was all close office doors and no windows. Now we have views and floor to ceiling windows and open seating (“Millenials love it!!” We were told) and I like seeing people again. I was a skeptic but it’s nice to be back.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 3, 2024 12:44 AM |
I've been working from home since 2020 and my company has no plans to make us return to the office. I love it. I do a job that doesn't require input or help from anyone so it matters not where I do it from, just that I do it. There are some people who opted to return to the office but it wasn't required. I'm just as productive at home as I was in the office and I don't have to deal with any of the stuff r3 posted. I used to hate that every other day it was someone's birthday and "there's cake and drinks in the breakroom!" I hated dealing with coworkers and the rush to get to the office on time. I've spent four years just rolling out of bed and working in my pj's and being able to toss a load of laundry in while I'm working instead of rushing home each night to get shit done.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 3, 2024 1:06 AM |
Just now you have to go in three days a week? Where the f— has your company been for the last 2+ years?!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 3, 2024 1:19 AM |
P.s. I retired last week, well ahead turning 65 …so, actually, I don’t give a rat’s ass. Know that if you’re afraid of just those three days, god help you.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 3, 2024 1:21 AM |
R6 is a proud ribbon clerk!
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 3, 2024 1:26 AM |
You all are spoiled rotten and need to be back 5 days a week. WTF has changed for you since before Covid? You all had employment contracts. Fuck you and your child care. your toenails, your pets, your dying mother. I've heard it all! Get your lazy asses back to the office!
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 3, 2024 2:05 AM |
I don't want to work in an office anymore
by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 3, 2024 2:08 AM |
I don't want to work, I want to bang on the drum all day.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 3, 2024 2:18 AM |
R9, I have no idea what that is. I'm an award winning film editor.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 3, 2024 2:35 AM |
Hi Elon @ R10
by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 3, 2024 2:37 AM |
We are back 2 days a week for employees and 3 days a week for managers and above. Everyone is in on Wednesday, which is also now company provided lunch day. No charge for any food or beverages from the cafeteria during lunch hours - 10:45 am to 1:45 pm. It’s packed, so that had to expand the hours that are available for lunch. This has got to be costing them thousands of dollars per week. There are just over 900 employees that work at this office location.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 3, 2024 3:01 AM |
At least all of you desk jockeys haven’t been replaced by cheap offshore workers or A.I…. yet.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 3, 2024 3:12 AM |
^^ Overseas workers, I mean. Sorry, thinking about hot muscular men working on oil rigs again!
by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 3, 2024 3:16 AM |
[quote]You all had employment contracts.
We don't have employment contracts in the US.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 3, 2024 3:27 AM |
It took OP's AOL dial-up two years to process this thread.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | May 3, 2024 3:38 AM |
I did almost the same thing r8. Loving it.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 3, 2024 3:41 AM |
R13 where are you from—geez. It meas you do very little. As in standing behind a counter and doing very little. And slang for someone without much courage, as in being a lame bettor in poker. Duh.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 3, 2024 3:50 AM |
I had never heard the term and I don't play or follow poker, 21. I'm born and raised in California.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 3, 2024 4:46 AM |
Do you lack a basic working knowledge of American colloquialisms…we get it.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | May 3, 2024 4:50 AM |
R10 = bitter, hateful and perpetually single.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 3, 2024 5:18 AM |
Are you asking a question, r23? Your grammar is unclear.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 3, 2024 5:43 AM |
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by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 3, 2024 3:47 PM |
R18 how does it work in the US?
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 3, 2024 5:13 PM |
r27, contracts are for people in the US who are considered "freelance" but even then there is often not a contract involved. Most companies hire you, hand you an "employee handbook" that states you are an "at will" employee meaning you can leave at any time or be let go at any time. And most employers take advantage of that by laying off people without any reason cited.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 3, 2024 7:20 PM |
I’m expected to go in 2 days a week, and feel quite surprised by how much it bugs me. I like the people I work with, and my office is ok, but I despise the fact that I spend over 2 hours per day commuting, especially since I now know for a fact that I am more productive working at home. After 3 years or more working at home, it feels like a real burden to have to travel in every week. And I have developed a mortifying inability to be punctual. I leave at the very last minute and I am invariably a few minutes late. I do make up the time, but I am surprised how my habits have changed.
It’s irritating having to pack a lunch, rather than just walk to the fridge and grab whatever I fancy. I hate working in an office with air conditioning, as opposed to being at home where I can throw open a window for fresh air.
My main objection to working from home is that it has made to very clear that we are not all equal. The higher up the company ladder you go, the less people are visible. Many of the company directors just refuse point blank to appear in the office. Some of them haven’t been in since Covid, but people at my middling level have to appear every week!
by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 3, 2024 7:40 PM |
R27 Employment agreements are common at the senior management /C-suite level. Absent a collective bargaining agreement, virtually everyone else is at will-as noted.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 3, 2024 7:47 PM |
[quote]I had never heard the term and I don't play or follow poker, 21. I'm born and raised in California.
Same here, R22. I’ve never heard the term “ribbon clerks” used in this way before either. “Pencil pushers” is the correct term. Google “ribbon clerk” and you’ll see that R9 has her head up her ass.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 3, 2024 7:54 PM |
I still rarely go in, nor am I made to. I got my highest annual appraisal late last year so I'm doing something right.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 3, 2024 7:56 PM |
Shaving that neck beard's gonna be tough, huh?
by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 3, 2024 8:13 PM |
Retired here, but when I was working in Before Times I always preferred going to the office. I liked strict separation of work and home and didn't want the former infesting the latter. Sure, public transit could be a pain, as could some co-workers. But I could meet friends who worked in the same area for lunch, and I could run errands/go to the gym/pick up something for dinner on the way home. Now that I'm home all day I have to go out to do any of those things; when I was working in an office I was already out and they didn't seem like a hassle. But, yeah, retired and don't miss working at all, so there's that.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 3, 2024 8:26 PM |
The creepy thing about some of the big corporations calling remote workers back to the office last year was that, in many cases, they were doing it in anticipation of downsizing, so basically it was in hopes that less loyal workers would quit if they were called back to the office, which would minimize layoffs.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | May 3, 2024 8:38 PM |
R35 When you have to cite a dictionary of slang to prove that a term exists, it’s probably obscure and antiquated, and perhaps so are you.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 3, 2024 8:49 PM |
[quote]some of the big corporations calling remote workers back to the office last year was that, in many cases, they were doing it in anticipation of downsizing, so basically it was in hopes that less loyal workers would quit if they were called back to the office, which would minimize layoffs.
I'm retired now but my last employer did this 3 times in as many years.
First time: to force streamline staff in advance of securing venture capital funding for mergers and acquisitions. Return to the office rules reversed policies to force resignations, particularly in senior positions where workers had earned considerable trust and independence (and higher salaries.)
Second time: to trim again the employment rolls quickly returned to normal after the first time. This time as part of a big buyout/merger. The new (never stated on the record) was to fire)force out as many people as possible and replace them with a higher number if cheaper new university graduates.
Third time: newly merged, they reneged on promises of a post-Covid largely remote workforce because they had become heavily dependent on new, inexperienced university grads who required heavy new levels of supervision and training. The promises that allowed staff to work in remote locations far from an office were withdrawn and many people +both senior and freshly hired( were forced to resign.
All in 3 years. I foresaw a lot of bad decisions and a constantly changing field of new procedures and massively increased record keeping and progress reports so I retired before my 62nd birthday when I though I might work to 62, 63, or 64.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 3, 2024 9:16 PM |
[quote] I know there are positives about being back in an interactive office setting
As a profound introvert, I cannot think of a single one.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 3, 2024 9:19 PM |
R37 the post wasn’t made to prove the term’s existence, as that is objectively true. It was more to establish your own ignorance—also objectively true.
The phrase is neither new nor obscure. That is all.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 3, 2024 9:45 PM |
[quote]And NYC transit sucks balls worse than ever.
Now that spring is here the stench of piss is even more pungent. Happens every year.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | May 3, 2024 9:54 PM |
Hope you get fired
by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 3, 2024 9:56 PM |
[quote]The phrase is neither new nor obscure. That is all.
Please, stop trying to make “ribbon clerk” happen, dear, ancient Mary. It’s not the hill to die on.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 3, 2024 10:18 PM |
Nobody uses ribbon clerk from the last half of the 20th Century through today. Nobody except a big gay priss on the DL
by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 3, 2024 10:23 PM |
^^ Actually, “ribbon clerk” is mention 4 times on the thread in R45. Replies 153, 189, 319, and 336.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 3, 2024 10:44 PM |
**mentioned
by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 3, 2024 10:45 PM |
Old dumbass
by Anonymous | reply 48 | May 3, 2024 11:55 PM |
I retired and didn't go back until my party, earlier this year. But I was working mostly from home long before the pandemic. Two days a week at the office. My work day at home averaged about 3 hrs a day. At the office it would stretch to 10 hrs at times and I was too old for it. In the old days I didn't mind the rush to deadlines, I even enjoyed it.
My partner will work until the day he dies. Lawyer. Politics. We respect each other so far so good.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 4, 2024 12:13 AM |
I like this term, ribbon clerk. It's fresh and colorful. Does anyone know anything about its origins? Its usage on DL?
by Anonymous | reply 50 | May 4, 2024 12:19 AM |
Stick your head in the toilet r50
by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 4, 2024 12:52 AM |
You like ribbon clerk because you’re a big woman screaming to get out
by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 4, 2024 12:58 AM |
[quote]In the mid-80s, I had a job in retail working for a big queen who always referred to the staff as "ribbon clerks." - R 336
R9 Were you that big queen?
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 4, 2024 1:31 AM |
R42 you still work? Bitter, party of one….
by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 4, 2024 2:45 AM |
[quote] Also we are allowed to dress business casual, unless we have a management meeting.
I hope you don't have to dress up for an in-house management meeting.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 4, 2024 3:24 AM |
[quote] We don't have employment contracts in the US.
People in labor unions do.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | May 4, 2024 3:28 AM |
R56 see R30
by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 4, 2024 3:35 AM |